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TheSuperNerd:
Uncle Kog. Honestly, I am disappointed at what I just read pages back.

I knew it would come to this which is why I urged Forgiveness to halt the debate for now.

Then to Idennaa, I told him to leave out the Tribalistic angles he was bringing in.

I wished Forgiveness had not taken the tribal bait Odenigbo (aka Idennaa) dangled. He could have ignored him and refused to go the tribal route. I mean when Odenigbo brought it into my mention, I strongly refused to stand for it. He even said he knows I wont entertain such but that didn't stop him.

I did what I could to prevent this and left... Went offline because I had stuffs to attend to and also partly because I didn't want to be party to what may come after coz I know how stubborn both Odenigbo (Idennaa) and Forgiveness can be when that tribal matter arises. They somehow persist in engaging each other along tribal lines no matter how wrong it feels.


See ehn, this is a thread created for the Best of our Nation's football and in here we know no Tribes or ethnicity but only Talents and strategies that can make our national teams and football better.
I detest any discussion that shows the road to Tribalism and Nepotism Boulevard. It's a road to dirt I wish never to see shown here again.





To Sir Idennaa, I warned you to cease taking this route. I told you to please stop. You are a married man and a father and should have known better. This Tribalism route is super highly sensitive and will always derail this fine thread.

Honestly, I should call the mods on you as a lesson to others because you are the one that started this.
But again, I am sure Semid4lyfe got far more important matters outside NL.
But honestly again, you and Forgiveness deserves bans with your own primed to be a bit longer coz you started this.

You are a man I respect in here for a few other things you offer the thread but you just have to find a way to engage forgiveness without bringing in Tribal innuendos and references. You fell hands and I call on our amiable Semid4lyfe (if he has the time) to kindly cleanse the thread of any tribal nonsense in the shameless battle between you and Forgiveness.

I wish to not see this repeated again. Danke.

Stop lumping me together with IDENNA in his tribal bigotry.

I never went the tribal route with him.

What I did was debunk his false accusations and I have the right to do that under the constitution.

Except you are ignorant about the law which says Volenti non fit injuria.

Stop the nonsense of trying to cleverly tag me a tribalist. That's being clever by half but I smarter than that.

Face IDENNA.

chrisooblog:
I think you're the one that needs to take your own advice. You don't need to buy a ring to ENGAGE your brain once in a while.

From the screenshot we can see Saka scored and assisted when he played as a RW and LB but in your usual duplitious behavior you tried to paint the picture that he scored and assisted solely from playing LB really pathetic!

I'm always happy when I reduce a so called "christian" to insults and name calling that means you have no other thing to argue with again

Saying you don't use your brain is very justifiable because that's what exactly you don't use else, how can you compare a Winger to a wing back?

I repeat. Use your brain once in a while and stop arguing blindly.

chrisooblog:
was it every game saka played as a left-wing back? show me the formations Arsenal deployed the days you are claiming bukayo played as a LB.

Ogbeni no need for all this shalaye. Simply explain how somebody that played more games and more minutes scored less goals than someone you say he's better than.

There is no need arguing with someone who can't use his brain to differentiate a LB from a Winger all because he wants to win an argument.

Keep asking foolish question when the answer is stirring at your face.

chrisooblog:
you are still refusing to answer my question how come somebody that played more games with more minutes has less goals that somebody you said he surpasses? Even in assist Moses Simon still has a good number despite less games.

You want to bring in the position bukayo Saka featured in without mentioning the formation that Arsenal played which allows wingbacks to be more involved in attacking

Can you please explain the formation LB is known to score more goals than a winger?

I want to learn.

Do they award highest goalscorer based on numbers of minutes and game played?

IDENNAA:
Why would anybody in their right sense want to hurt Zik ? Listen to Sarduana speak about "Igbo domination" and you can see why the coup plotters penciled him down for annihilation. The man was hateful and paranoid....he had it coming.

Awolowo , on the other hand mobilized his people and changed the tide against Zik because he wasn't Yoruba....na so una take dabaru the contraption, with your ethnic nonsense. See the country naa! Shebi una don happy. Enjoy your sanctimonious Nigeria...lmao

Mr man keep quiet. You can only deceive yourself and those who are ignorant about Nigeria’s history.

You are really an ignoramus. I am off. Bye

IDENNAA:
No , Azikiwe is a renown nationalist who went to school in the U.S and returned with pan-African ideology. He saw black people as one because of his experience with black Americans suffering racial discrimination.

Awolowo and Sarduana , on the other hand imbibed the racial sentiments and difference the whites planted in Africa ,and only see their ethnic identity. This is why Zik won in the West because he was a true African!

Of course, only Awolowo and Sarduana were bigots. Azikwe wasn’t hence fled the country before a coup.

That’s why I said you a bigot.

You get sense pass.

IDENNAA:
This is exactly what I meant, you lie without shame.

But for those who care to know; I said that northerners are not adept with the skills to play the role of 10 and I am standing by that statement. So, I never said used the word Igbo because I am aware that Thompson Oliha is not Igbo , Adepoju is not Igbo , Oruma is not Igbo.

Like I said before , you do not have a modicum of integrity....you will lie to win an argument.


Now , list the northerners who have played a 10 for SE and tell me how far they went.

Stop lying mr.

IDENNAA:
You are part of Nigeria's problems. People like the you and Ahmad Bello (Sarduana of Sokoto) planted the seed of ethnic bigotry ,which has continued to fester to our current situation.

What about Azikwe and Awolowo? Stop fooling yourself.

You are the bigot here.

IDENNAA:
You are part of Nigeria's problems. People like the you and Ahmad Bello (Sarduana of Sokoto) planted the seed of ethnic bigotry ,which has continued to fester to our current situation.

Stop fooling yourself. Azikiwe, Awolowo etc are not exonerated from planting seed of ethnic bigotry.

I repeat stop fooling yourself.

chrisooblog:
I mentioned two seasons why are you dodging the facts of their overall performance over the past two seasons? Mind you Simon was playing for a modest Nantes side unlike Saka playing for a top English side like Arsenal. Bukayo with more minutes couldn't eclipse Simon yet he is better according to forgiveness world wide sports

Should I also list Moses Simon's awards from the season before last?

You are right it's not a joke it's worse.

Oga! Are you among those who claimed Iheanacho was better than Mbappe?


Next time factor in assists with the goals.

Last season? How many assists and goals did Saka have despite playing majorly as a LB last season?

See the first and second screenshot.

How many this season?

See 3rd and 4th screenshot.

The case is closed. You don't know about Moses laurels more than me.

IDENNAA:
Do some self reflection, full-stop. You are too entrenched in tribalistic thoughts.

And if you say I am a bigot , go ahead and prove it, otherwise stfu....at this age you haven't learned to check your filthy ethnic sentiments.

You can go educate yourself. Your moniker alone gives you a ethnic jingoistic fellow.

See yourself in the mirror Mr IDENNA that claimed only his ethnic group can play the number 10 role in Nigeria. Even rubbishing Northerners in the process. That's one of a million evidence to prove your a a real bigot.

Now, don't Choke. Saka is better than Chuks.

chrisooblog:
National team football is a very strong determinant which you can't wish away.

I'm surprised you will say such a thing when facts on ground in terms of goals, assists and minutes played says otherwise.

last season with 10 more games and minutes Saka only scored 1 goal more than Simon. In the 2019/2020 Moses outscored Saka by 4 goals despite playing 8 games less so where did you get this your assertion that Bukayo is better?

It's part of it. That's all.

Oga! That was last season.

As at now, Saka is London Young player of the Season, Arsenal player of the season and has been nominated for EPL and PFL Young player of the season.

This is not Joke.

chrisooblog:
Saka is gifted no doubt but I think it's premature to be saying categorically he's better than all our wingers. How many years has he been playing? how many laurels has he won playing for club and country? Even your favorite player M.Simon has out performed saka in one or two years of recent. At the AFCON last time out he had two assists while Saka is still trying to get into the England XI for this tournament so let's wait for time to judge.

Is getting into the national team the determinant factor for rating a player?

Saka is better than Simon. This is not a joke.

humility33:
They should be ashamed of themselves with all the facilities at their disposal they still cant match a tiny country like Belgium in football
The last time they won a major tournament was in 1966 when i was not born compared to their mates in europe

I thought they played in the 3rd place match at the world cup.

IDENNAA:
I know your style and I don't expect you to get into it with anybody.

But , just to correct you. We can never stop exposing people like forgiveness because they are a clogg in the wheel of our progress. This is like saying you hate politics because it's a dirty game.

Who is blocking your progress?

Stop deceiving yourself. Players must be called into the national team by merit.

Nothing concern me with your progress.

IDENNAA:
This is the issue with forgiveness; if a player is Yoruba and is playing for England then he is better than everything we ever produced. Now, if he is Yoruba and plays for Nigeria then he is better than anything England can ever produced , unless they are Yoruba.

Secondly ; if a player is Igbo and plays for England then we better forget him because we dont need them, or we could just throw some light there and deceive our ancestors that we care about these omonna's. But if he is Igbo and plays for Nigeria then its gotta be favoritism because there is no way any Igbo player has the skills to adorn the super eagles shirt. They are always conniving with NFF officials to sneak in their incompetent omonna's.

A tribalistic , bigoted , and nepotistic individual is what we have in our midst. There is nothing forgiveness writes here that comes from a well thought-out reasoning. The man embodies ethnic bigotry and discrimination....its disgusting !!

And when he has been defeated he will resort to redundancy just to keep the conversation going and wall himself from embarrassment.

You can only blackmail others not me.

I will keep telling it to your face whatsoever is right. I don't care if you call me a bigot or not because I know at the end of the day I will be vindicated

If you are good you are good to me regardless of where you come from.

Who clamoured for Ebere to be called to the National team? This was even before he was nobody.

Who brought Ehizibue to to everyone subconsciousness here? That was even when he outshined Ebuehi in the Eredivise.

Mr man, you are the bigot here hence you don't have the locus standi to accuse me of what you are guilty of. Go and sleep.

TheSuperNerd:
I am very sure if it was Saka having the kinda impact Chuks had in that semis double header, una no go let us hear word for here.

And do Saka and Kante now play the same role? Which Kain question be this? Abeg dead this talk. It's not getting anywhere. Thanks.

I have always maintained before the semis that Saka is better than all our wingers combined.

Almost all Chelsea's players were shi.tty before Lampard got Saka including the wingers. Does that mean Saka is better?

TheSuperNerd:
I ain't joking too.

And when the chips were down and stakes at a high point, Chuks delivered and had better Impact over the two legs of the UEL semis compared to Saka.

Chuks was so influential and a menacing presence in the game that Arsenal fans all over the world were "predominantly" glad to see him leave the pitch injured in the second leg.


So Biko, Saka is better than many of our wingers but certainly not better than Chuks. Thank you.

Villarreal style of play made it so. Counter attack.

Besides, just one or two good games can't determine which player is better.

Arsenal struggled against Salvia Prague in the first leg and used counter attack to win the second leg.

We all saw Chelsea's players were sh.itty under Lampard especially Rudiger, Kante but does that makes Saka better than Kante holistically?

andrewbaba44:
I like the fact that we all support super eagles players and I like the fact that we also know the truth in our minds

We can’t be deceiving ourselves na.

humility33:
Good to know
Can wait for this English Team to play Germany or France so that the hype around them will reduce

Even Denmark,Austria so far play better than them

It doesn’t change the fact that England has better players than us.

TheSuperNerd:
He is not. What else do I expect from you? Lol

Abeg make I hear word.

This is not a joke. Saka is a more matured and nurtured player than Chuks.

Though Chuks has that raw talent but he still needs more polishing.

TheSuperNerd:
Yes, but you brought it up again to "further establish" it only because he bagged MOTM award yesterday in his first Major Tournament. That's why I made reference to Chuks' first tournament too.

And like you, ofcos I agree Saka was not expected to make the final cut but Providence happened and he made it.

Also, Southgate needed a spark after England's lacklustre displays so far and he turned to Saka (and not even Sancho) and the lad bagged MOTM. That is very good for him.

But don't you think this puts question marks over the "actual" quality of wingers England have got at this Euros rather than on whether Saka trumps even Finidi of old? Why would they need a Saka to provide creativity if England is so stacked for creativity in the other options they have in Foden, Sancho, Sterling, Rashford, etc? See where I am going?

I don’t know any of our wingers that are better than those players in the bolded.

TheSuperNerd:
Lol... Na so... Becos of one game?? A group game?? A game Czech republic didn't even need to qualify having qualified already?

Need I remind you that a 20-yr old Chukwueze also bagged MOTM for Nigeria in the Afcon Quarter finals vs South Africa?? A higher stakes game?? A Knock out game infact.
This was Chukwueze's First Major Tournament too for Nigeria akin to Saka's first for England at this Euros. So what's the deal?


Also, please where was Saka when Chukwueze outshone him in the 1st leg semis of the Europa League? And was also causing havoc in the second leg before injury struck and had Arsenal fans cheering that Chukwueze left the pitch... Please where was Saka??

Saka is a fine young player but the talk of him being better than all our wingers is a fat lie abeg.

You can praise Saka without having to demean all our wingers.

Sometimes, una go just open mouth waaaaaa dey talk.

Without any iota of doubt, Saka is better than all our wingers, including chuks.

Arrewa:
Dear Dan Arewa your region is not backward and underdeveloped!!

The north is not poor!!


Only the North have Gold, Diamond, Uranium, Rivers, over 74 million acres of arable land etc & recently, One Billion Barrel of Crude discovered in single well. The North is officially an Oil Producing region of Nigeria.

The north produce 85% of food in Nigeria!

Your region Is the back bone of the country!!

Your region remain the most developed region in Nigeria.

You have a beautiful culture and heritage!

Fulani is the face of North.....to you.

Honestly, you are living in self delusion. I will not say more than this.

Arrewa:
Dear yan Arewa we are the Most powerful people in Nigeria!

Be proud of who you are!!

Dear Dan Arewa...Yuh are the blood of Idris Aloma!

You are the blood of usman Danfodio!!

You are the blood of Queen Amina of Zaria!!

We are the sons and daughters of African warriors!

Your definition of North is Fulani. Is all right.

Businesslist:
More !!!!!

Is Cocoa house in Aba?

Businesslist:
More !!!

What area is that second picture?

BoboNkiti19:
Huh? South South of today was part of the Eastern region, and when did the Western region ever produce palm oil? thought cocoa was always the major cash crop product of the West.

Delta and Edo States were not part of the Eastern region.

attackgat:
Referendums usually come in the form of a question. When a referendum is held, two things are vital. The question and answer must clear and unambiguous. During the Scottish referendum of 2014, the question that was put to Scotland was -

Should Scotland be an independent country?", which voters answered with "Yes" or "No".

55.3% of Scotland voted No, while 44.7% voted Yes. So Scotland remained with Britain

Since Nigeria has no constitutionally recognised Regions, the Biafran referendum will have to be by Local Governments. I think the question that should be asked in the Biafran referendum should be -

Should your Local Governments become part of the proposed Republic Of Biafra? Yes or No

The Local Governments that vote Yes by at least a 51% majority or more, will become the Republic Of Biafra

The question should be, Should my clan become part of so so so? Yes or No. shikena

Ignorance! The weapon of Devil.

seankafor:
I just received a call that my dad just passed on..

Well, death is a debt everyone must pay so am not much surprised it's my dad's turn to pay up... although didn't fathom it would be this early

But anyways I believe he is in a better place now

Death is not the end of man but the gateway to eternal world which is divided into two. Eternal life and Eternal damnation.

Accept my deepest condolences.

Danielnino00:
See your blockhead like "8 games out of 40" .. Was Onyekuru available for 40 games at Monaco? Where was in in January during the 2019/2020 season? The same season he joined Monaco..

Simon played 19 games,scored one goal and one assist...nothing more.. he failed in Laliga, if that's the standard you want to judge Onyekuru season with Monaco

Where did you get the 8 games Onyekuru played from?

Was it not the combination of the half two seasons in Ligue 1?

4 games each in 2018/2019 and 2019/2020 seasons before he went on loan in January in both seasons?

Was he not available for 19 games and 21 games in 2018/2019 and 2020/2021 seasons respectively?

Does it not sum up to 40 games in total?

I have said it. You have to use your brain for once.