₦airaland Forum

cc12:
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is an American, he is not Yoruba and he was bearing Lewis Alcindor Jr. before he converted to Islam

He stated that he was "latching on to something that was part of my heritage, because many of the slaves who were brought here were Muslims. My family was brought to America by a French planter named Alcindor, who came here from Trinidad in the 18th century. My people were Yoruba, and their culture survived slavery... My father found out about that when I was a kid, and it gave me all I needed to know that, hey, I was somebody, even if nobody else knew about it. When I was a kid, no one would believe anything positive that you could say about black people. And that's a terrible burden on black people, because they don't have an accurate idea of their history, which has been either suppressed or distorted."

tglobal:
Self appointed clan defenders. When you are done with denigrating the achievements of your illusory enemies, maybe you will still have some energy left to actually do something that will meaningfully impact the lives of your clan members so they can recognize your efforts

Nonsense!

Prejudice another form of creating conflict. To halt it, one should be informed.

Afobear:
Forgiveness the mugu......

Afobear the kolo.

charlesemeka85:
u wan use laff to mask your ignorance?

Of course, he would have won it more than once. Fact

charlesemeka85:
Alaba would hv won it 5 times ahead of the likes of Drogba, Yaya toure, mahrez,Salah and aubameyang? Tru Tru u no well lolz

Hahahaha! The thing pain am.

charlesemeka85:
aside the great yekini who else won it from the west? abi u still dey count adebayo as nigerian? u re going psycho my man

Adebayor was denied the opportunity to play for Nigeria eventhough he was from the SW.

Alaba who also wanted to play for the National team because he was from the SW was also denied the opportunity to play for Nigeria. He would have won it 5 times. Bhuhahahaha

charlesemeka85:
i will advise you quit smoking weed cus the tin has bad effects on u.

Why are you crying? D facts dey affect your brain?

kellycute:
is that why u and omanbala wanna use it as an avenue to showcase y'all tribal prowess?. Make una continue

I am only debunking you and your cohort believe that 'we know where football is made in Africa'. That's all.

Any issues with that?

charlesemeka85:
any truthful soccer loving fan in this thread will not shy away from the fact which @drklever stated. dangote who is from the north today is the richest man in nigeria and Africa but as an easterner it will be foolish and ignorant of me to bring up an argument that the the likes of innoson, arthur eze and co are richer than him. such claim will make me the biggest clown on this thread

The 'We know where football is made in Nigeria' was uttered due to ignorance.

How many African footballer of the year has SE produced? Two

How many African footballer of the year has SS produced? One

How many African footballer of the year has SW produced? Two

What is all the fuss about?

charlesemeka85:
So if I mention players from the south south and south east I should include agbolahor, ogbonna, Tammy Abraham, onuoha, torunarigha, Akpoguma, uduokhai and others who were originally from these regions but represented and representing thier country of birth in international football?

U be school bag abeg

You no get sense at all at all. I am talking about players who were denied the opportunity to play for their father'sland but you are here talking about players that are not interested in playing for the national team.

However, even if you add them to the equation, none has reached Dele Ali, David Alaba, John Fashanu's level. Fact

kellycute:
we are divided because of people like u and forgiveness. Y'all should continue mastubating on which region produce the best talent and when y'all get tired, y'all should locate the big black gate and ffuck off.

What a bias and prejudice comment we have here?

So, you didn't see Drklever and co comments about their region having the best talents in Nigeria?

charlesemeka85:
the bolded players not playing for 9ja have been very painful for you. stop mourning and face reality rather than trying to accommodate players who are full fledged internationals with their adopted countries.

when aribo was still unknown to many folks in this thread you never spoke of him but busy crying and killing yourself over the non inclusion of ajagun and kayode in the new super eagles set up lolz

You are such a dunce. Were dey eligible to play for Nigeria? Didn't they show interest to play for Nigeria before rejected? Facts still remains that they are from certain region of Nigeria and one is even far better than the best both SE and SS could offer. Don't cry about that.

Ajagun and Kayode are still better than the Nwakalis Onuachu etc

When I talked about Olayinka, didn't you call names here? What is happening now?

charlesemeka85:
you can't mention the bolded in any list that contains greats in african football. odegbami with no disrespect was a good player but will never make the top 10 footballing greats the continent of africa have produced.

Who is talking about Africa? I am talking about Nigeria.

Humility017:
are both players with us...now?

mention top 10 best footballers Nigeria has ever had or currently has.... and let me point out those from the south south and south east for you.....

the Manu garba team of 2013 was more balanced and even the YUSUF Chan team the last time.... likewise aigbogun mediocre team still....

Human being must come from somewhere. The likes of Adebayor and Alaba were denied the opportunity to play for their fatherland due to prejudice. If we add them to the number, They will occupy the top five. In addition to Yekini, Amokachi and Odegbami. Facts

charlesemeka85:
Wetin u dey expect frm dude wey been dey clamor for the inclusion of ajagun and kayode to the super eagles because inside of him he is pained that the west has few players from the region in the current eagles set up

Forgiveness u think say I no d knw motive behind ur ranting then lolz

At least, they are better than Nwakalis, Onuachu etc.

No, I am pained because discrimination of players from other regions due to prejudice have not taken us anywhere.

charlesemeka85:
i can only talk about football and athletics because these re sports which i can boast that the south east and south south have the talents in abundance.

the way nigeria have been set from the beginning made alot of your kind feel that only the best in sports emerge from the slums of lagos and environs but i bet that you will be marveled when you visit places like benin,warri,asaba,aba,umuahia,owerri,calabar,akwa ibom,onitsha,enugu to discover that they are footballing talents wasting in this places and yearning for support.

open your eyes and stop been delusional

Even in football and Athletics, they are not only the best. In sports generally, SW has achieved more than any regions in Nigeria but I am not foolish to say they are the only one that produces best talents.

You are the delusional one here because you ignorantly claimed SE and SS are the best in sports in the whole Nigeria. Fat lie.

DrKlever:
If you were not born today sir, do yourself a favour and use google search if you dont know. I hope I'm not engaging a primary school pupil here

Google says otherwise, Mr.

DrKlever:
That's quite shocking sir. Corruption has been our bane in this country. The selection is obviously flawed. That doesn't mean Hausa and Yoruba can't play football, they can but not to the extent of having a list 90% dominated by then. Lai lai e no fit pure!

I agree corruption was at play in the selection of players but I vehemently disagree that best talents only comes from those two regions. That's a fat lie.

DrKlever:
Yes that's true. I never said the corruption is tribal but i only retaliated that if there was no corruption in the selection process it is impossible to see the list dominated by Yoruba and Hausa names considering the rich football culture of the SE and SS. That doesn't mean there are no good footballers from the west or north.

Which football culture is only in the SE and SS? Where dem discover Amunike? Na for East?

Go out of your region and see how passionate other regions takes football.

The only difference is, they din't take it as a career then but thinks are changing.

charlesemeka85:
Ur comment shows u re a foetus in Nigerian sports lol

Which best talents comes from SE/SS in sports?

Tell us what they have won in Football, basketball, Table Tennis, Athletics, wrestling, martial art, boxing, weightlifting, para - sports, Chess, etc that buttress your point that they are better in sports.

You will be very disappointed that those two regions will be found wanton in sports compared to others.

Those less talented regions are currently the champions in most of those sports listed above. Abi you know know.

charlesemeka85:
Uche okechukwu
Kanu nwankwo
JJ okocha
Sunday oliseh
Wilson oruma
Mikel obi
Alex iwobi
Troost ekong
Julius aghahowa
Stephen keshi
Kechi iheanacho
Victor oshimeh
Samuel Chukwueze
Kalu uche
Ikechukwu uche
Joseph yobo
Victor moses
Yakubu aiyegbeni
Finidi george
James obiora
Celestine babyaro
Victor ikpeba
Chidi nwanu
Ben iroha
Emmanuel emenike
Victor anichebe
Chinedu obasi
Onyekachi apam
Onyekachi okonkwo
Emma amuneke
Karibe ojigwe
Taribo west
Christian obodo
Henry onyekuru
Vincent enyeama
John utaka
Osaze odemwingie
Joel obi
Tyrone ebuehi
Francis uzoho
Kenneth omeruo
Chidozie awaziem
Isaac success
Chidera ejike
Jonathan akpoborie
Victor agali
Samuel kalu
Obinna nsofor
Wilfred ndidi




And lots more

So, this are the best talents? I even dey see bench warmers and unproven players there. Mtcheeeeeeeew

OMANBALA1:
Adebayo is a Togolese and Yekini NEVER won the African Footballer of the Year....lmao....YEKINI NEVER WON AFOY!!

Adebayor is a confirmed Nigerian from Osun State. Because of people like you, he was forced to play for Togo when he was denied the opportunity to play for Nigeria.

Yes Yekini never won Omanbala Republic award of the year. Clown.

If only you sabi read.

OMANBALA1:
Rashidi Yekini won what and Odegbami won what ? Oga, let it go before you will start telling us about Abdul Jabaar who is not even a ffucking Nigerian.

No! Abdul Jaabar is from Omanbala Republic.

Abi na lie say Yekini and Emmanuel Adebayor won AFOY award?

How many won it from both SE/SS? Just three.

Kanu, Amunike and Ikpeba. But you want us to believe they produce best talents.

DrKlever:
Same way opportunity has made the Brazilians and Argentines produce better footballers than United States right? Oga football is a culture. You only nuture it to improve. You can't compare talents from an area where kids sneak out of school to play football to another that will rather be cramming calculus.

When did USA started taken football seriously?

You seems to be ignorant. Football is a cultural thing allover the 6 geopolitical zones of the country but the restrictions I speak about is the overbearing influence of parents over kids from other regions. What is difficult for you to comprehend?

Humility017:
he is right sha... save for few from the south west region....
the south south particularly Edo and Delta state have produced more footballers from the south south region....

you have
Kanu
Okocha
Victor Ikpeba
Amuneke
Yakubu
Aghahowa
Victor Moses
Mikel
and lots more...

south west have produced too...but of a truth they can't match the south east when it comes to football talents so far Nigeria have produced

The SE and SS have produced more football talent because their cultural values allows and tt's not because they are naturally more talented than others. Unlike the other regions who are either restricted by their cultural values or religion. Fact.

How many of these players won or were nominated for African footballer of the year or even won individual lauels in European league?

Asides, Kanu, Okocha, Victor Ikpeba, Amunike, Mikel, West, Enyeama and Sunday Oliseh......who made the top three, who else?

Do you know Odegbami made the top three twice and was runner up at one point even before any from those regions ever dreamt of any nomination?

Rashid Yekini won it. Emmanuel Adebayor won it.

Even Daniel Amokachi from the North made the top three on two or three occasions.

This is despite the fact that most footballers allowed to play for Nigeria came from these regions (SS/SE)

If we draw up first 11 from SS/SE against other regions, you will realised you are wrong.

DrKlever:
let me hear word. There is no discrimination here but just obvious fact. If you were to select a team of basketball players to represent North America in an inter continental competition, where do you think most of the players will be seleted from? USA of course that's because they have a rich history in the game. Same can't be said of football. We all know exactly the region that produces most of the footballers in Nigeria. south east and south south. It's only a surprise to see the list full with yoruba and hausa names and considering the allegations of corruption levied against them before the competition commenced, It's just normal to raise an eyebrow. All of a sudden the south east and south south no long dominate soccer in Nigeria. We all have our strength as a Nation, we should exploit them instead of trying to fix round pegs in square holes. I repeat, if the selection process was transparent there is no way that list will be completely dominated by Yoruba and Hausa names in a game that we have seen the Igbos produce most of the talents. You can call me whatever you wish, that doesn't change a thing. Enjoy!!!

Have you heard of Giannis Antetokounmpo, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Hakeem Olajuwon?

Where are they from? How come dey dominated the game eventhough they are not natives of USA?

This alone has rubbished your ethnocentric believe that a particular group is more talented than others. The only difference is OPPORTUNITY. That's all.

safarigirl:
I suppose you should be thrown into jail then, because you have committed the crime of ethnocentrism multiple times on this thread.

Egalitarian values doesn't tantamount to ethnocentrism. You will do well to differentiate between the two.

safarigirl:
There is nothing wrong with being ethnocentric.

Virtually every Nigerian is ethnocentric, accusing someone of being ethnocentric is not scandalous, it is fine, it is advised and it should be promoted. If the entire black race had all the confidence in their race, black people would not be bottom of the barrel.

An ethnocentrist is not a tribalist. Believing one's ethnicity is superior in certain climes, is not a crime.

It is common knowledge in Nigeria that the SE and SS produces the best athletes, the West produces academicians and the North, politicians. There is nothing wrong in saying these as facts, nobody is saying there aren't exceptions, but everybody knows their lane in this country, and we should not come here and suddenly act ignorant of the status to seem self-righteous

Forgiveness, you are the last person to be shouting about ethnocentrism because you and Omanbala hold the forte quite well for your ethnic groups on this thread.

Fat lie. Who told you SE doesn't produce academicians? Who told you SW doesn't produce best athletics and politicians? Who told you the North is not in the equation? I am sorry to say that this is the height of ignorance. You can do better than this.

There is no fact that even justify your claim that SE produces best athletics going by the fact on ground but just prejudice.

What is your definition of holding forth for one ethnic group?

I hope you have not confused fighting for justice and equality as ethnocentrism?

safarigirl:
There is nothing wrong with being ethnocentric.

Virtually every Nigerian is ethnocentric, accusing someone of being ethnocentric is not scandalous, it is fine, it is advised and it should be promoted. If the entire black race had all the confidence in their race, black people would not be bottom of the barrel.

An ethnocentrist is not a tribalist. Believing one's ethnicity is superior, is not a crime.

Ethnocentrism breads conflict. How is that not a crime in a country like ours?

DrKlever:
All what you just wrote is trash sir. Complete trash! It's very laughable that you're bringing in Politics which is election process into this. That itself makes your argument trash because politics is a game of number. Are you telling me that Buhari is the finest mind to rule us when you have the Adesina, Kinsley Moghalu, Osinbajo, and Ezekwesili etc?

How can it not be trash to an ethnocentric person like you?

It's even glaring in this your comment. Reason being that you think the Northerners occupied the seat of power because of majority vote and not necessarily because they are better.

Can you please tell us what is fine about the mind of Zik, Ironsi, Obasanjo and Jonathan when they were given the opportunity to rule?

Did they turn Nigeria to elorado? Don't forget one even betrayed his master to death. Is that one a finest mind?

Like I said earlier, you are an ethnocentric person.

charlesemeka85:
the best footballers this nation have produced are mainly from the south east and south south, person wey no knw that one na confirm tribal bigot

Mention those best footballers.

DrKlever:
I'm pleased you understand what exactly my point is. These things don't just add up. I'm sure most people here know this but are just trying to ignore in other not to create ethnic disunity here. Unfortunately the issue is not with tribal bigotry but an obvious corruption in an age grade football selection which is an insult to us. I care less about the team winning. If dem like make dem win 10-0. We need to play good footbal and unearth great talents(which is more important). Else our Super eagles may be starved of quality players in future.

Can you mention the great players from those two regions you claimed to be most talented in Nigeria?