₦airaland Forum

gallivant:
All this time you have been crying oyimbo. Go ahead and call him Nigerian rich man, he will appreciate the honor all the way in Dubai, where is based.

rvp20183:
You're crazy.Nigeria is a zoo.Kenya is progressive nation with few things to fix.Just pick any index and check.Dont pick outliers like that covenant university.We have two issues that we are sorting.. corruption and hard one ethnic politics.Othewise pick any indicator of progress...and Kenya is almost assured to be ranked top 5 in Sub Sahara..and Nigeria almost assured to be ranked at the bottom.The are no Nigerian companies in Kenya with any serious stake...some off your banks bought struggling family banks with 2 branches and the Helios a London based Equity fund bought equity in some companies.South African cannot hack Kenya..how can Nigeria manage.Dangote still terrified to step in .In 15yrs we have grown our economy from $12B to $90B.Tax revenue includingAIA from $2B to $20B.Be terrified about the next 15yrs.We have halved those living in poverty.Electricity coverage from 12% to 80%.We have built world class infrastructure.Expanded universities from 7 public to nearly 70 plus many private.Enrollment from 50K to o.6M.Primary education enrollment shot up like crazy.Secondary education transition approaching 100%.We can go on and on...but you won't accept our lies.Although every Kenyan always painstakingly seek to provide empirical evidence.

kikuyu1:
Genius,your Andoni is as far from a frigate as a Sigma is to a super carrier! Its 4x the length. Learn to do basic research so you don't look silly.
https://products.damen.com/en/ranges/sigma-frigate-and-corvette

kikuyu1:
Tbh,not white but still......

In fact he's competing with Dangote himself!
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saritharai/2015/09/23/dubai-based-billionaire-vaswanis-stallion-group-wants-to-dominate-nigeria-and-all-of-west-africa/#270c98e0698b

GTFOH,with that Ind.....n,white/Chinese/Somali chorus! Its now beyond boring.

kikuyu1:
Guess who just get married? Uzoho,under 19 goalie! This is what happens when an entire nation embraces short cuts and unethical behaviour-anything goes and EMBARRASSMENT DIES!

As funny as the other disastrous goalie Rufai in 98-remember him?

samsobo24:
I have told,they rank worst because of power issues and nothing more.Wait till we solve our power issues.

Now why does ABK have modern rail which is still a dream in Nairobi

Kazikazi:
Ask them, where are the servers of Mpesa??

NairobiWalker:
I thought Telkom was a big deal, does it become irrelevant when you realize that Nigerians don't actually own it?

Telkom doesn't play a big role in Kenya's Telecommunications industry at the moment, it's largely a struggling company since the day Safaricom broke off from it. We kept telling you guys that but you kept barking how a Nigerian company controls Kenya's Telecommunications - you know how you guys make a big deal off everything? We then came to you with the truth, that Helios is partly owned by Kenyans and now here you are trying to bring back what we told you earlier whilst you angrily fought back. See how hypocritical you are?

Kazikazi:
Aaaaargh
Stop lying.That's a British invention. All servers of Mpesa are hosted in Europe,owned by Vodafone.

mtisTheQubit00:
man you should see Telkom guys on the streets of nairobi giving away free cards. .that is a dying firm not a growing one.

samsobo24:
Do you think Nigeria is as backward as Kenya.MTN isn't the best here when we have our very own Glo established by us to compete favourably with GLO.
Glo started billing per second which prompted mtn to stop their per minute billing.Glo is preferred by most Nigerians because of their huge dash out volume of data.Don't you think that MTN Nigeria is sometimes taken care of than MTN ZA,that's market size.
MTN Nigeria isnt fully owned by SA,we have stakes in it.
Mtn has suffered series of backlash and fines that have hardly survived the tragedy.

Don't forget the owner of Glo is our 4th or 5th richest man,richer than all Kenyan whites combined

Shoprite is gradually becoming a thing of the past as our own just rite,palms and others are becoming giants.We don't value retail shopping like you Kenyans ,counting shopping malls as development.

The EAC is a joint investment project,LASG, Access bank and other firms all have their share in it.


My point is,we dominate everything, DSTV couldn't impose stations on us.

My question is

Why can't Kenyans (black) own something by themselves. It is always owned by 5 people coming together or white Indians or the government h
helping by adding its own share.For example Africa's richest woman is building an Edifice without. anybody helping or even without borrowing from bank.


Now show me one white out of our 100 top business men.

mtisTheQubit00:
Mpesa is a Kenyan product but its origin is complex just know that..

Ibrahimanis:
They can laugh thy kingdom come. I don't care. Answer my questions.

1. which Kenyan company employs 20,000 people

2. Show us the list of African countries by their manufacturing sector. Which also shows Kenya's manufacturing sector is bigger than Nigeria's as you claimed.

3. Give us a comprehensive list of what Kenya's military manufacture.

I swear the way you jump from one topic to another, it's like you have a short attention span. Or you are caught lying.

darfay:
Hmmm


It seems you guys are trying with that coy

Daejoyoung:
Hailed as the “Kenyan technology success story”, many have claimed M-PESA to be a testimony to the greatness of the East African country’s technology scene, producing world-class technology companies that rival those in South Africa. However, is the acclaimed mobile money service really Kenyan at all?

The answer is no. M-PESA is British.

Patent: 2007, Vodafone Group Plc Mobile Account Management.

By any stretch of the currently available facts, the service that accounts for more than 60 percent of Kenya’s GDP in transactions was conceived by British professionals. The company commissioned with developing the idea, Sagentia, into a workable technology was British. Additionally, the company that owns the intellectual property rights to the idea, Vodafone, is British and, lastly, it was funded in its initial stages by the British Government.

Source..lAfrikan.com

NairobiWalker:
Eko Atlantic is owned by the Lebanese, stop being a liar.

tylann:
What about your population compared to us that is enough for 48million Kenyans

tylann:
You are a sick man
You know nothing about kenya
2 rivers mall the largest mall in Africa outside South Africa is owned by Chris kirubi
Mpesa was invented by a moi university student
And it is owned by safaricom
The biggest banks in kenya are
Kenya commercial bank owned by the govt
Equity bank owned by Kikuyus
Cooperative bank owned by the govt some shares
So what whites Indians Chinese are you talking about
If you want to go that way then let us start
Who owns mtn
What about shoprite
What about eko Atlantic

rvp2018:
120 PLUS South Africa companies in Nigeria including dominant ones like Eskom,Mtn, SAB Miller, Stanbic Bank and name them.What saves Nigeria from a complete rout is their protectionist policy.South Africa companies in Kenya are handful and none is dominant.We have buried many South Africans firms in Kenya and seen them leave without their shirt..not thro protection but business competition like they didnt expect.EABL kicked SAB miller arse so bad they will never attempt.MTN have tried to find a way in but they know Safaricom will bury them alive..they are everywhere but Nairobi.Same with Eskom.Stanbic despite buying CFC continue to slip unable to face competition..in Uganda and most of the countries like TZ they dominate like crazy.DSTV probably the dominant in sports paytv in kenya is partnership with KBC..multichoice.Shoprite and Game are rearing their ugly heads finally after 10yrs of salivation coz of Nakumatt trouble but they wont survive long time..Tuskys, Naivas and Nakumatt will beat them and send them back to Tz or UG or Nigeria.We lost count of how many south african stores attempted and failed before..cash n carry, woolworth.South Africa airways attempted but KQ didnt even wait for them to get Nairobi..KQ beat them in Tanzania and left them saddled in debts..they ran away leaving TZ without a national carrier.Then you hear Nigeria paper tigers like Dangote and their little banks coming for their funeral in kenya..and you laugh.If South African firms have failed for 30yrs to get foothold in kenya economy..How will Nigeria make it.Dominate Kenya..you got jokes..our private sector is only second to South Africa and we run a free market based economy.

Ibrahimanis:
@bolded.
The liar is back. You always beat Nigeria in PE? Show me your source! You beat Nigeria 2017 good and fine. But you do not "always beat Nigeria".

Between 2011-2018, the regions with the most PEs are South Africa, west Africa, East Africa in that order. Nigeria accounts for 73% of deals in West Africa, Kenya accounts for 55% deals in East Africa. So please explain to me how Kenya has always beat Nigeria in PE!

https://www.pulse.ng/bi/finance/finance-equity-investors-find-nigeria-more-attractive-than-south-africa-kenya/9lf5dqb.amp


https://allafrica.com/stories/201711290506.html

https://www.businessamlive.com/nigeria-accounts-for-73-of-west-africas-10-7bn-private-equity-funds-as-at-2017-report/amp/

https://www.businessdayonline.com/pe-fundraising/article/nigeria-beats-peers-private-equity-deals-five-years/

In fact between 2012-2017, Nigeria accounts for the most PE deals in Africa.

Still waiting for your source that Kenya has "always beat Nigeria in PE".

NairobiWalker:
It's metaphoric idiot. I don't care where you badly run companies invest.

NairobiWalker:
Who owns Helios?

rvp2018:
When did Brookside cease being Kenya.I know they sold 40% to French dairy conglomerate Dandone but it remain majority owned by Kenyatta.Prepare to start drinking Brookside milk soon.Helios enough evidence suggest it London PE with major stake by Nairobi $ Lagos.Kenya has way more homegrown multinationals than Nigeria..in almost every sector kenya companies have operation in East and part of Southern Africa.Not just Dangote and your Banks and Helios.If Nigeria sign free trade youll see kenyan companies in Lagos competing with South African.

NairobiWalker:
You look down on African countries that are practically better than you. Meanwhile you'll boast of investing in Togo. Is Togo better than Rwanda?

NairobiWalker:
That's why Norway is one of the richest countries in the world. Why are you so foolish?

Giving me examples of small countries with bigger absolute wealth indices than Nigeria doesn't discredit the fact that population matters you stupid Nigerians.

NairobiWalker:
........and Telcom was founded by Kenyans and a Kenyan is its CEO.

68816419:
They only generated 1860MW of electricity and we currently generates above 6000MW.

Icon4s:
Well I wish him the best over there. But let him no drag fight one day come house just like forgiveness did recently

Politics section is a no no for me. It is so filled with hate and bigotry.

BedLam:
There's nowhere called Lagos City, stop the miseducation!

BedLam:
Bring the facts! What's the number of tourists that used MMIA this year? How many foreigners are currently residing in Lagos compared to Accra and Nairobi? Why do you think UN, Oracle, Deloitte all have their regional headquarters in Nairobi? Google " Karen Neighborhood" in Nairobi, it's mostly foreigners who live there.
You don't have the numbers so don't bother next time. Since you live on Banana Island, name people that are are permanently living here. How easy it is to find a foreigner in Ikorodu, Badagry? But maybe a little trip to Kasoa after Accra will tell you what diversity is.

tylann:
I told you go and read about Sierra Leone civil war
You got no point

tylann:
How can a reasonable company invest in a country with no electricity