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Joebie:
What’s your stance about calling players in the lower leagues, and does that also include the Championship (a lower league)?

I know where you are going and I think you think you are very smart but unfortunately I am not that stewpid.

Use your brain to compare Championship with other leagues second division.

I will not respond to such mischievous post of yours.

ChrisKels:
Now watch ur guy come here to say Rohr is German biased. He would be like, he doesn't like English talents, else he would have called the boy while he was still in England instead of waiting for the boy to move to Germany. That means he is German biased

Well, we don't know Rohr's mind but his body language suggest his heart is German.

ChrisKels:
Sir forgiveness let's throw away our differences if any, to talk about this topic. Left for me, this guy has just invited us and we need to act fast.

That boy is good

I don't have anything against anybody. I am against riggid thoughts and I better pass mentality.

I have seen him played before but I want him to be invited before he starts shinning.

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I meant to say I have not seen him played before.

Joebie:
Okay I hope Aneke becomes your new song, no longer Ajagun

Where were you when I clamoured for him to be be called for the Olympics?

That was even when he was in the Belgium pro league before he was injured.

Besides, is there anywhere I said he should be called to the SE?

He is currently going to league 2 and you know my stance against calling players from lower league yet you want me to contradict myself.

I guess you are just being mischievious, right?

ChrisKels:
Thats good bkus me I was surprised when komekn was hammering on it.

He said it several times but we all just kept mute to see what will happen atlast

I personal know Onyedinma is good but I didn't see the comparison. Even if he said so I am indifferent to it because it's been long I kept track of FB players. So, I don't really know much.

charlesemeka85:
Borussia Monchengladbach signing Keanan Bennetts admits an international future with England is no guarantee.

The 19 year-old has signed for Gladbach from Tottenham this summer.

And Bennetts admits he qualifies for three countries - England, Germany and Nigeria. He revealed to BILD: "My mother is from Hamburg, my dad from Nigeria. But I grew up in London.

"As a young child, I always spoke German with my mother. At the World Cup, I kept my fingers crossed for all three teams.

"If the question should be asked for which country I should play at the seniors level, I really have to think."

Asked why he chose to join Gladbach, the attacker added: "I did not feel Tottenham was fully behind me. That's why I did not have to think twice about Borussia's approach. It is a dream to play in the Bundesliga. In Gladbach they bet on young players - this is my chance!"

Wow! This boy don open door mouth for Rohr to call am ooooooo.

I hope Rohr and NFF will not wait until he starts shinning before dem call am. Bundesliga with a big team.

ChrisKels:
Oh u also believe he is a better player than Ademola Lookman?

Where did I say 'better'?

ChrisKels:
Watford FC just signed another winger, so what happened to the purported interest on the sensational championship winger, Fred Onyedinma? Seems it was another bogus news from Southgate. Lol to think that he so hyped this boy to the extent he said Ademola was nothing but a packaged deal while Onyedinma was the real talent.

But today, he has forgotten Onyedinma and now hyping Lukman to high heavens


Ppl ehh

Onyedinma showed at lot of promise while playing for his club but I don't know what real went wrong.

He's a good player.

Joebie:
Why would you pick him ahead of Ajagun?

He is very technical, good at given through pass, he can score goals and assists.

Although, I have not seen him played for a very long time but the last time I saw him played, I was impressed.

Chrismario:
2014 or first half of 2016 is not just, a lot and I mean a very big lot has happened counting from then till now.

From league one to Belgian league is good but I want to remind you that it happens often so you shouldn't be marveled.

We are talking about a youngman that is not less than 25. Like I said earlier, It will be nice to have him in SE but not yet.

I am not saying he should be called into SE. I am telling you the reason he is in league 1.

This was his first full season after he can back from injury.

Joebie:
Wow. Now since Aneke also played in the Jupiler Pro League, how do you compare him with the likes of Olayinka, Awoniyi, Onyekuru, Bonaventure, and Kalu? is he ahead of the aforementioned?

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Or rather midfielders alike like Ajagun, Esiti etc

He is not a winger. So, I can't compare him with those guys in that role. I can only compare him with Ajagun and I will pick him ahead of Ajagun though he is not a fast player.

The boy is too good to be in league 1. I think Ligue 1 or La Liga will suit his style. He had better go there.

Chrismario:
League two? League two is fourth tier English league right?

He should prove himself first and play in a better league. Rohr will then assess if he fits in. The youngman is relying on past glory of youth football

His club just got relegated to league 2 this season.

He played two four seven in his first season in the Belgium pro league after he left league 1 even until the next season before injury knocked him out for almost 2 seasons.

If na hype, how come a 21 years old kid came all the way from league one to break into the first team of a Belgian club, just like that? That was just 2014/2015 and 2015/2016 seasons ooooooo.

The boy is no hype.

ChrisKels:
Just a little correction ;

Onyekuru passed PSG medical before opting to join Everton due to EPL craziness.

Honestly, I want his progress and if he join a bigger, I will be happy.

However, I saw his pictures doing medical with PSG. How I wish he went there.

charlesemeka85:
nigerian young star hilary gong on the verge of joining dutch side vitesse arnhem from trencin

Good one.

komekn:
Without a challenge how can you improve

Long term career plan is better than short time money that can derail your long term progression.

He has the right to reject the offer from Wolfsburg if he wants. But I guess he looked at the £££€€€€ and decided to go for the easy option where he will not be challenged.

How much good football can you play in a team always fighting to the last day to survive from relegation.

Most Nigerian players I know don't do well in the Bundusliga. Maybe bundesliga has changed but I would prefer he goes to EPL where he will have to challenge for a shirt.

Everything in life is about chance. Once he gets his chance then he should prove himself.

If he does well whenever he plays and Liverpool still keeps him on the bench, a top EPL club will come for him, and will force Liverpool to use him.

He must be ready to shun money for his future.

BascoVanVeli:
is he really qualified?

Yes na. He played more than 75% of national team football over 2 year and he was selected for the world cup.

Though he didn't go but he has a case because there is evidence he couldn't go to the world Cup due to injury.

BascoVanVeli:
Honestly I think they are taking advantage of his loyalty. I remember Tottenham coming for him last season but they refused and now they are yarning stories with Liverpool. This is a player who singlehandedly won them their first ever title. I would have thought his treatment would be much better than this.

That's it. They are taking advantage of his loyalty. How long will dey continue to block his progress?

I even read where the club Director acknowledged Moses was loyal after they rejected Monaco's offer, and promised to pay him back for it.

Is this the kind of pay back they are talking about? Na wa ooooooo.

charlesemeka85:
moving to wolfsburg will afford simon moses more playing time. for a young player who is ambitious i think wolfsburg will be a better platform to showcase his talent in a top league. the liverpool move may pan out well for him but will he be a starter? will he get enough playing time,can he dislodge the likes of salah, mane and firmino? i suggest the wolfburg move will be more ideal for him if it happens. a player like de bryne took the same part when he left chelsea for less fancied werder bremen where he proved himself, moved to wolfsburg before he left for city,mo salah is another good example

The story of most Nigerian players in Germany league has not been successful.

It's better he goes to EPL where he is qualified for work permit now. He doesn't know tomorrow.

Bryne signed for Chelsea too before he was sent on loan where he performed.

However, if he is good enough, he should go fight for a shirt in Liverpool. Tomorrow will take care of itself.

Odunayaw:
Privatization isnt a magic wand that will wave shit away (Serie A in the early 2000s, Turkish league at that time too)

The shiit with our league is; Square pegs in round holes & the lackadaisical attitude

That was the reason I talked about the corruption in the league.

Aside corruption, privatization is better.

charlesemeka85:
hahahahahahaha no mind person wey almostg cry here because aluko no make world cup team

You are just running from pillar to post. No substantial evidence to back up your claim. Shows what you are...

Kog45:
Na so Sir forgiveness,imagine you named your boys ADESANMI and ADEYEMI and someone is doubting their origin.

Hahahahahahaha! No mind the guy. The guy just tire me ooooooo.

After your comment, I could decipher something.

charlesemeka85:
you made mention of how versatile olayinka is stating that his versatility will benefit the team more. no same coach will pick a old and worn old obagoal to the world cup where they are lots of younger players in better leagues who should be tried. such would have happened if the team lacked strikers

Stating he is versatile doesn't tantamount to going to the world Cup. Does it?

Ighalo is playing in Juventus and the young ones scored 100 goals at the world cup. Bhuuuhahaha!

What an irony!

BascoVanVeli:
KAA Gent, Slavia Prague fail to agree transfer fee for Olayinka


By admin -
July 5, 2018, 8:53 am

The transfer of Peter Olayinka to Slavia Prague appears to have fallen through after the Czech club failed to agree a fee with Belgian club KAA Gent.

According to Hetniuewsblad, Olayinka has resumed pre-season training with Gent after the Belgian club did not agree a fee with Slavia Prague for the Nigerian striker.

Representatives of Olayinka and the Czech club met this week in Belgium to discuss the transfer.

Gent were reported to have initially rejected a five million Euros bid for the tall striker.

Olayinka joined Gent in January 2016, but he has since been shipped out on loan to Dukla Prague and Belgian club Zulte-Waregem.

He netted 11 goals and provided 15 assists in 40 appearances at Zulte-Waregem last season.

http://scorenigeria.com.ng/2018/07/05/kaa-gent-slavia-prague-fail-to-agree-transfer-fee-for-olayinka/

Hahahahahaha!

charlesemeka85:
hahahahahahahahaha this one pain am. before obafemi martins got injured you were championing for his inclusion. oga talk true abeg you even at one point you suggested that olayinka will offer more to the team than moses simon and ahmed musa. peeps make una be my witness

Now na before injury. Dey deceive yaself.

What is problem if I agitate for Martins Obafemi who was obviously better than all the strikers that went to the world Cup?

Oh! Since he is from ones region he should not be clamoured for based on merit?

You see ya life!?

Now, show me where I ever clamoured for Peter Olayinka to go to the world Cup. Ossiso!

edi287:
Sad. This kid is going to be big. Our scouts should be doing better.

We don't have scouts. We chop I chop agents.

charlesemeka85:
its obvious without sentiment that our players are average and not world class but that doesn't stop top clubs from top leagues pushing to get any of our young stars who shows promise. if you wants do quote me please do that right by putting down what i said. i never told you onyekuru is world class or a world beater but as a young star in his 2nd season in professional football he did very well and showed a lot of promise which made a lot of teams from top clubs take notice which is normal.

you are the one who is labeling yourself a tribalist by some of the comments and insinuations you make in this forum. i love the nigerian teams from the youth cader to the apex team and as well follow our exports abroad in various leagues but my love for the teams and players wont blind me from saying the fact that we are yet to have a world class player.

simon moses been courted by liverpool and wolfsburg is a good sign that he is doing something right but that wont make me hype him to high heavens because he had offers from top teams, kayode secured a move to city which was highly celebrated, moved on loan to girona where he was a perpetual bench warmer, moved to ukraine in january and performed well during the short period which pushed shaktar to sign him permanently which is a good development but that wont make me see him as a world class player.

if i am a tribalist i wonder what someone like you who was so bitter when your favorites obafemi martins,sone aluko, kayode,olayinka,babatunde etc were not considered for a place in the world cup team. we all knew how you agitated here

Only a fool can't decipher your perjudice and sentiment comments when you were trying to portray Onyekuru as a World beater with man untd, Juv, Liverpool came looking for him talk and Moses as average player because Barcelona, Manchester United etc are not interested in him. Be deceiving yaself.

Besides, how come the bench warmer who won MOTM in the second match he started from start to finish was benched in the next matches? Think.

If you are not a tribalist, how can you bring a false accusations against me that I am bitter for players that came from a particular region?

Where and when was I so bitter Babatunde, Olayinka, Sone Aluko and Obafemi Martins were not considered a place in the world cup team save for Kayode?

Sha na Obafemi wey get injury abi na Babatunde wey dey obscure league na em I go consider for World cup?

Wahalahi! You are truly showing yourself as what I call an epitomy of Tribalism.

BascoVanVeli:

Bundesliga club rival, Liverpool, for Simon


July 5, 2018
By Correspondents 

Belgium top division side Gent have confirmed rumours of Moses Simon leaving the club this summer after omitting his name from their squad for the upcoming season.

The club released their squad numbers for next season and the Nigerian was conspicuously missing from the list of players assigned squad numbers by the Belgian side.

A rumoured target of English Premier League giants Liverpool, Simon who has long voiced his desire to move to the EPL is also studying an offer from a German Bundesliga side.

Owngoalnigeria.com reported that Gent are open to the idea of the forward moving to the Bundesliga as the club met their valuation of the forward, something Liverpool are yet to match.

However Simon is yet to accept the move with the forward still keen on pushing through a move to England even if he doesn’t end up at Liverpool, where as reported by this portal a bid was submitted for his services.

https://newtelegraphonline.com/2018/07/bundesliga-club-rival-liverpool-for-simon/

Gent should allow the boy go to Liverpool, abeg.

How much dem buy Moses wey dem wan sell for 15 - 20m euro?

The boy has been loyal enough to stay these years despite offers Gent rejected from big clubs. Haba!

€13m plus best loanee player to come on loan yet you no gree. Na wa ooooooo.

komekn:
Leavr that matter, for Matthias, I was around then, if you saw what was happening with Siasia and his cronies.

You will be ashamed to your bone marrow.

Soon and very soon his time will come for Chuks, You can not hide quality, actually think his agents are not doing enough.

Really! Tell me something. So Siasia and his cohorts just cajoled us to believe they were really interested in Chuks.

I think he left Arsenal because he wanted to play first team football in order to get a call.

That boy is too good to be in league one at his age. His agent should find him a club in the French league to attract interest from our national team.

charlesemeka85:
lmao no mind some here wey they hype our players like the english hype theirs. the gospel truth is we have decent and average players not world beaters as some makes us to believe here

I see.

Our players are average but you told us PSG, Barcelona, Monaco, Liverpool, Liepzig etc were looking for Onyekuru and you even put etcetera behind am to show the infinity of clubs looking for him just to prove a point he is a World beater but suddenly you changed mouth to dey say our players are average because of Moses Simon, by trying hard to ridicule him, saying, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus, Manchester United and co are not interested in him. Na wa ooooooo.

At least, it is on record Liverpool offered for Moses but what can be said of Onyekuru whom you portrayed as World class player because of those rumour moves?

Did any of those clubs officially logged an offer?

Was this not the same time people here tried to ridicule Kayode when Onyekuru was bought by Everton saying, if Kayode is good enough with all his exploits as the best player and highest goal scorer in the Austrian league, why are clubs not interested in him before suddenly Newcastle and Manchester City tussled for him. The rest they say is history. They were so shocked that some even said he choosed Manchester City because he wanted to show himself but I swear, if Onyekuru moved to Manchester City, they will never talk like that.

The same thing they said about Taiwo Awoniyi before Liverpool signed him. They said he wasn't good enough and it was because Isaac Success had injury he managed to play but these fellows who praised Iheanacho didn't tell us that Iheanacho also had the chance because Alhassan was dropped due to failed MRI Test. That is life and I never thought he is a bad player because of the chance he took that propelled him to Manchester City. Na em luck be that.

It's high time some of you calling people tribalist here should check yourself first before you start accusing people of what you are guilty of.

And it's high time you see all players as yours instead of...... Enough

charlesemeka85:
well the likes of real madrid, barca,juve,man untd and co who you hoped for them to fight for moses are not interested. liverpool were unable to come up with the fee gent demanded while wolfsburg paid the exact amount. a move from gent to a team of the caliber of wolfsburg is a good move. wolfsburg is one of the teams in the germany with rich tradition and history and huge fan base. they under-performed for some seasons ago doesnt rub off their achievements, rich history and status. its far better than remaining in belgium or moving to slavia prague hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. if simon performs well consistently he will attract bigger teams in germany and europe as a whole

charlesemeka85:
its normal for a young player to start from nowhere. henry in just few years of being a top flight player have made name for himself. a player who caught the attention of teams such as monchenglabach,psg,everton,liverpool,monaco,anderlecht,club brugge,leverkusen,hoffenheim,valencia,barca,leipzig,fiorentina etc is not a flash in the pan. after his everton move he continued from where he stopped the previous season notching up to 10 goals before injury slowed him down. as it stands in world football henry is highly rated and regarded than your olayinka which is the gospel truth

komekn:
I agree with you in bold.

But it such an anti climax after all the talk of all these big clubs you settle for a relegation bound team. If Liverpool think he is quality they will pay but i assure you they did not, that is if they were ever interested in the first place.

Disappointed i too got carried away with the hype.

Liverpool offered an improved €13m after €10m was rejected. They even added Awoniyi plus the €13m yet Gent refused.

If they think he is not quality, I don't think they will come back with an improved offer plus a player who was there best loanee of season.

This happens alot in transfer market. Barcelona and Chelsea are still dragging the price of Williams. Can we say Williams no get quality because Barcelona refuses to pay?

I don't think so. It happens. It's not hype but fact. Na around 5m Liverpool no gree pay. Anyway, let us wait until the end.

komekn:
This is why people should not get carried away with all the media hype, a lot of the time its just contrived by agents and other intrested parties to market thier player.

There is an article by Josh Sippie i have just read again similar hype, a player has scored 1 goals in the easiest league to score among the the top twenty league in Europe and scored 4 in the 2nd tier of Dutch football, definitely way below championship. This being hailed as remarkable progress. It simply is not , that's hype.

He is going too Porto you are struggling to play in Eredivise and you go to Porto. he needed to find a club that will give him clear first team football because it may not go as he is projecting. I hope he does wonderful and sets Europe on fire with Porto, that is my wishful thinking for him. Objectively speaking it certainly looks highly unlikely but not impossible.

How long will Arsenal give him, should he even be staying at Arsenal ? or moving on before he becomes fa forgotten transaction, will he qualify for a work permit , can he perform only time will tell.

Quite a few chose to Arsenal leave and quite a few were asked to leave. Arsenal have been quite poor at retaining and encouraging top youth talent in recent times and should i say even impatient, this is primarily due to lack of opportunity.

Serge Gnabry was frozen out at Arsenal and let go for literally nothing now he is the toast of the Bundesliga and now signed long term at Bayern Munich after an outstanding two seasons with first Werder Bremen and then on loan from Hoffienham from Bayern. Hemade the right choice to leave.

Ovie Ejaria was released from Arsenal at 16 now at Liverpool having played quite a few first team games the rest is now History, England U21 international. If he had remained at Arsenal, would he be in the first team, very much doubt it.

Raheem Sterlng was invited to Arsenal but chose QPR instead because he felt he would have more opportunity, well he was dam right.

Chuks Aneke was described by Arsene Wenger as the like Yaya Toure, was even invited to Nigeria U17 and then forgotten he was not given opportunity so left. A bad injury kept him out football for almost two seasons last season he came back to league 1 MK Dons and was simply outstanding.


Thats him below if you cant remember him.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1lmSbKqdZA

It's true Liverpool is interested in Moses Simon and they officially offered money for his service but Gent didn't accept.

Even Tottenham, Monaco and Newcastle offered for him but Gent refused or his agent messed it up.

I am a fan of Chuks Aneke when he was still in Arsenal and followed him after he came back from the Belgium pro league were he was doing very well before he got injured.

Chuks messed up his chance of playing for the national team because Siasia personally lured him with the offer to play for the SE even when he was still in the academy.

That boy is too good to be in league one. He should leave for the French league or Belgium pro league if he really wants to be noticed because his of age.

komekn:
Please not Wolfsburg, this a relegation team and a shadow of its former self yester years ago, a player it was reported here multiple EPL teams were chasing or was it all hype and hearsay.

I personally thin he can do better than Wolfsburg.

It's neither hype nor hearsay. It is on record three EPL teams officially offered money for him but Gent wants more. Newcastle and Liverpool were the last two clubs that did that and Liverpool's offer was just rejected 2 days ago.

Maybe Wolfsburg met Gent offer and are likely to have him.

I don't know if Simon Moses has the power to reject Wolfsburg's offer and insist on Liverpool move. However, I think he is interested in playing time hence the Wolfsburg's move.

But me no like the low mentality of our players afraid of challenges.