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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
Oasis007:
Seem some Dudes have Problem with the Name "Dele"...... Lol. I remembered when TheGoodJoe was asking for Alampasu to be the first Choice Goalie based on the convincing Training Sessions' Reports, some Dudes claimed he's inexperienced and too young.
They are quick to forget he was a former Winner of an U17 Golden Glove, the same Competition that brought Iheanacho into Limelight. But now..... Uzoho ain't too young or inexperienced to man the Posts for the Super Eagles in Russia.

Dele Aiyenugba is far better than Akpeyi, more exposed and experienced than him, but once his Name "Dele" is mentioned, nah..... he's a Flop, he had got his Chances but failed.

In the local League - NPFL - Ajiboye is far better than Ezenwa, a very good, talented Goalkeeper brimming with Confidence, but he also gets "Dele" in his Name, hence only a very few care for his Call up and Trial.

You've really got a thick Skin Bro. Coz you've withered many Storms here alone..... Lol! Enyeama should be recalled, but Martins is too old for a Recall. Someone even claimed Ighalo is performing better than him in the Chinese League.

I laughed at a Post that condemned Martins of only good with one Leg and ain't good in the Air like Ighalo. Had Mikel and Ighalo ain't plying their respective Trades in the Chinese League, they would have gone "berserk" on his professional Careers.

When Kayode didn't make the Bench, you were called out to mock, thanks to Tbaba1234 that eventually posted a cogent Reason for his Exclusion. However when Iheanacho also didn't make the Bench..... Alas! It's tagged Politics and Racism.

Ahmed Musa was demoted to the U23, some are already considering he should be dropped from the List coz he has lost it. Iheanacho is dropped, the Tone changes to; at least he won't be match rusty coz he would be playing and it's good for him. What will you call it bro?! Lol.

I rest my Fingers.
That is why I said people here are not interested in picking the right personnels to represent the country based on merit and performance.

Dele Aiyenugba is not good to many here because of where he comes from and not based on his ability and club form.

Recently, I saw an article that suggested Austin Ejide who is currently a free agent should be brought back to the national team ahead of Aiyenugba but most of those monikers never critized that move. why?

I am seeing the signs that Austin Ejide is likely to be called back into the SE because these days the media is portraying him as one who is with a club and later as one who will soon get a club.


Did I not say Ezenwa is a pregnant cat before he was tested and found wanting before some people called forfor my head?

Why do they still prefer Ezenwa ahead of Ajiboye who just helped Pleatue United to win the NPPL this season?

Is it because he was part of the team that helped us to Russia and needed to be compensated despite poor performance lately?

Why couldn't they put that into consideration despite Awoniyi's contributions to help us qualify for the Olympics?

Why were those monikers hell bent that he must not make the team because he performed woefully prior to the Olympic?

Why is Ezenwa case different?

Now, you brought up Dele Alampasu case.

If Uzoho is a first team player at his club and Dele Alampasu is playing in division 3, what could have been the argument?

Will they maintain their stance or shift goal post?

If they say Uzoho is ahead under the condition he plays regularly in division 3 but discard Dele Alampasu under the condition that his performance against Porto fc was 2 years ago and therefore passed, under what condition do they want Iheanacho ahead of any player in the team despite his performance these past two seasons?

Why do dey suggest Ahmed Musa must be dropped for Onyekuru because he lacks game time but insist Iheanacho must make the team despite he is in the same boat? ( the fact is I also want Iheanacho in the team)

One lied Dele Alampasu loan move was a failure because he presumed he was not impressive but since I demanded cogent fact from an independent unbiased source from him, he is nowhere to be found?


People are blind to know that Ighalo, Mikel and Martins are all playing in China?

They said Martins is old but how old are they (Mikel &Ighalo)? Mikel (30) & Ighalo (28) and they will be 31 and 29 during the WC.

They said we don't need old players because we are building a team for 2022 WC.

How old will Mikel and Ighalo be in 2022?

Don't they know Mikel and Ighalo will be 35 and 33 years of age prior to that 2022 WC? grin

Will they maintain their stances against Mikel and Ighalo from joint the team due to old age?

Oh! Mikel and Ighalo are better than Obafemi Martin because Mikel played at the highest level and he is more talented than Martins?

How many leagues and FA cup has Martins not won without playing part in them and without man of the match performance which went not unnoticed by FIFA?

Do they know this 'useless' Martins was nominated for FIFA award?

Has Mikel Obi been acknowledged or recognised with such FIFA nomination?

Critical analyses devoid of emotives and sentiments should be the acceptable norms when analysing football and other issues.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:09am On Dec 08, 2017
Pep Guardiola Pleased With Nigerian Defender : Everyone Saw He's A Talented Player

Published: December 07, 2017

Pep Guardiola Pleased With Nigerian Defender : Everyone Saw He's A Talented Player
Manchester City coach Pep Guardiola was pleased with the contribution of Manchester-born Nigerian defender Tosin Adarabioyo despite his side losing 2-1 to FC Shakhtar Donetsk in the UEFA Champions League on Wednesday night.

The promising central defender started on the right side of a three-man central defense and was impressive in a full shift, in what was only his sixth competitive game for the first-team of the Citizens.

''But we fought, and I’m so pleased for Tosin, Brahim and Phil for how well they played in the Champions League against a really good team in Shakhtar Donetsk,'' Guardiola told mancity.com

''They are resilient and talented players and the people saw it. We came here to win, we couldn’t, but we were there until the end to trying to do so.

''We were helped by Fernandinho in our build up because Tosin and Mangala have other qualities from that and we created good spaces outside because they defend really well. I’m pleased and happy for the performance.''

The 20-year-old Adarabioyo has been on the books of Manchester City for fifteen years.

Igho Kingsley


http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=25734
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:34pm On Dec 07, 2017
Napoleon55:
and your point is?
Stick to football and critical analyses of the game.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
Oasis007:
@Forgiveness.... your Boy - Lookman is on fire Tonight - 2 Goals to his Name already!
When Solanke and Tiago Ilori were playing with e U23, many monikers here crucified them without trying to know or accept the reasons but now that Iheanacho is playing with the U21 suddenly their thinking faculty started functioning. Why?

Should I throway reasoning and go the tribal way by calling people here IPOB agent because I suppose majority of those monikers are IGBOs eventhough I know who dey are?

Should I start mocking Iheanacho the way people mocked players that are not from their village and start wishing them ill luck?

Should i start insinuating that some people wants to fill the national team with their tribes men regardless of were these players play and how they performan because they are quick to set standards and relax standards to accommodate their tribes men into the national team?

Because I still remembered one of those monikers told me Tiago Ilori was not good enough despite playing currently then in Ligue 1 but suddenly made a uturn when a player started playing there?

Can dey not see that majority of predictions and analyses have come to pass?

Didn't I say Solanke is a better player than Iheancho when he was loaned out to Vitesee

Was I not the one that called him a tap in merchant?

Did I not give my reasons when I said if he goes to Vitesee or another club he will find it hard to score?

Is that not what is happening now?

Has Solanke not gone ahead of him recently to win individual laurel that led him to Liverpool?

Did I not say the same about Kayode when one told me he is not good enough?

Did I not predict that Kayode is ahead of Onyekuru when many here mocked me and asked me why is big clubs struggling to buy Kayode if he is good enough after Everton bought Onyekuru?

What happened next?

Who is in a better club now?

Time will not permit to say how I analysed that Dele Ali is better than all players in our national team, including Nacho and Iwobi. That was even when Dele Ali was nobody in the EPL. But what did I get in return?

Did it not happened as I said?

Now, I have said about Lookman and Onomah but they said Onomah is a camouflage that I am a Oduduwa Agent and Igbo (God bless) hater for doing what God has given me to do. grin

If they can't believe me as a person, they should for once consider all my predictions and analyses then I believe they can see I say things the way I study them.

Now, Lookman has just shown tips of what he can do. Believe me he is another next thing after Dele Ali.

I am no God but I have the spirit of God and fear God else I would not have taken lightly those who falsely accuses me of tribal hates and tribalism when all I have said dey glaringly for day light, but I am humble because I know it is by his grace to know and reveal all I have predicted and analysed.

People should purge their heart of ethnic hatred and jealousy because I perceived many walk with this evil spirit. Thank you all
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:50pm On Dec 07, 2017
Mujtahida:
When I read about that Gaurdiola I realised that he won't want Iheanacho. That man is something else. Iheanacho is not his kind of player. I don't think he rates Nacho. If Nacho had stayed there and trained for a whole millennium, Gaurdiola will still not buy into Nacho.
But thegoodjoe thinks otherwise. Pls, tell him.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:48pm On Dec 07, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Modern day forwards has a lot to do with versatility and hard work. This we do have.
List 5 of them and the role they can play. Definitely Iheanacho is not among.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:43pm On Dec 07, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
Wat is with u and Iheanacho? why must u always discredit him?
I am making my points with facts. Nothing like discredit here.

Or should I just pretend as if i no know the truth.

How come you did not ask questions when people discredited Martins and Kayode without given a cogent fact, huh?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:35pm On Dec 07, 2017
Kog45:
Pls which one is modern CF or traditional striker again cos i remember 23 year ago all our FW were potential goal scorers and check US 94 team,Amokachie 2 goals,Amuneke 2 goals,Siasia 1 goal,Findi 1 goal,Yekini 1 goal and i don't think there was anything like modern CF during this period.

What we have in that team was top 9 which is Yekini but with your analysis and thegoodjoe am really confused on the role of Amokachie, Amuneke, Siasia,Finidi,do we called them modern CF?cos they are real goal poachers and Yekini as traditional striker.

The present eagle is not different from US squad if you check our goals statistics our forwards shared similar traits with what we have at US 94.They are real goal scorers.

Truly football has evolved but not much cos this your modern CF was used by Westerhoff but with the presence of traditional striker.

Now back to your comment you said we dont have modern CF but what are Iheanacho,Iwobi,Vic Moses,Simeon Moses,Onyekwuru,Kayode?

Remember with our traditional striker in Nwakaeme we could only scored a goal against Algeria but in his absence we had four goals against Argentina,

My question now with the absence of traditional striker against Argentina,who was our CF cos you said we don't have modern CF and what really make a player a modern CF and even traditional striker.
If you follow the discussion, some people told me we don't need a traditional striker when it is glaring we play 4-2-3-1 formation that demands a traditional striker.

Now, out of the players you mentioned Vicmo, Simon and Onyekuru are outside forwards or wingers which is also part of forward but they are not CFs, while Iheanacho type of forward is SS. He can't play the outside forward and CF. Gbam.

The only player that can play CF is Kayode. This is why Guardiola placed a personal call to get him on man city's book.

Against Argentina, we played a different formation and the coach used two forwards. They were false 9 in that 3-5-2 formation.

That is what Iwobi and Iheanacho loves doing.
Rohr is trying to find a place for Iheanacho because he realized Iheanacho can't play the traditional strike role in our 4-2-3-1 formation hence the reason he tried him on the wing and later paird him with Iwobi in 3-5-2 formation.

But i don't think we will use only one formation hence the need to have a traditional strike and CF in the team. If we want to go far in the WC else we will get stucked when teams decode our one way pattern of play. That's if we stick with just one formation which is typical with African teams.

Rashidi Yekini scored a goal and provided 2 assists. One was from the flank.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:31pm On Dec 07, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Guardiola got Gabriel Jesus who had more attributes than Iheanacho. Not that Iheanacho lacked the attributes to play. Compared to those we have, Iheanacho is one that has lots of fine attributes to fit the modern game in our team.
Which Iheanacho? Iheanacho doesn't have.

You can deceive the mumus not me.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
TheGoodJoe:
If Guardiola wanted to let Iheanacho go, there would be no reason for Manchester City putting a buy back clause.
The club does not want Iheanacho to go but they had to respect Guardiol's decision hence the need for Man city to play safe should incase Guardiola fails and moves on.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:57pm On Dec 07, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
So if someone ask you if there are players in the Super Eagles that can play multiple roles across the forward line, you will say no. Haba. Fear God. wink
We are talking about modern CF not versatile players.

In this case, we don't have.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:52pm On Dec 07, 2017
FabioPeter:
Our nightmare is the goal keeping department. Uzoho is young and untested, Ezenwa is erratic, Akpenyi is a basket, Enyeama is unfit and clubless.
Enyeama is not clubless.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:09pm On Dec 07, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
The number of traditional strikers will be Limited with more modern forwards taken most of the positions to allow fluidity of the formation.
We don't evem have a modern CF neither do we have a prolific traditional striker in the national team.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
TheGoodJoe:
Says who? You? Nacho needed to stay and learn. With time, he will adapt. Look at Delph and Mangala how much they have developed to suit the system. Unfortunately, Nacho felt a move would serve him better.

So it is not about not being good enough. Manchester City was not prepared to let Nacho go. Which means they felt he was good enough.
Guardiola never wanted Iheanacho again hence his request to sell him outrightly, instead of keeping him or sending him on loan.

Left to Iheanacho, he wanted to stay and fight for Shirt but it was Guardiola's decision to let him go.

The point is, Guardiola didn't consider Iheanacho good enough as a modern forward hence the need to let him go. EOD
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:32pm On Dec 07, 2017
Chrismario:
Apology...... Tot you said won.

Even at that, he has done close to nothing
But he was nominated. Gbam
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
TheGoodJoe:
Rohr made it clear that he wants his team unpredictable. Meaning some days we can play with a traditional striker waiting to pounce on chances. Some days, we can have a False nine. Some days, two forwards with one playing as a CF and another as a Support Striker. However, to achieve this kind of flexibility requires players who can play multiple roles.

Finito.
Now, you are talking and I agree with you 100%. This is why we have to look for CFs of both modern and traditional point man in our team.

Finito finally.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:17pm On Dec 07, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
This your last question is somehow. That is like saying if Overmars was a good right winger, Why did Luis Van Gaal prefer Finidi George to play the right wing.

Iheanacho and Aguero are modern day forwards but Gabby Jesus offers more attributes. Claudio Bravo is a modern day keeper but Ederson offers more attributes.
He is not good enough for Man city CF? Simple
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:15pm On Dec 07, 2017
Chrismario:
Sorry for joining the queue, I just want to know more.

Lookman won EPL young player ahead of nacho and Ndidi according to you. I'm not doubting that but just want to see the link of this your claim.


* what is the year and
*The age limit for such award

I don't know why I'm feeling too lazy to search on this topic.
If truly he won such award, then it shouldn't be based on his Everton career. His display since joining Everton is below average judging by the fact that he is an attacker. With less than 3 league goals in a whole year is indeed poor and I dare say that he would have been an outsider like Dennis and awoniyi even if he chose Nigeria instead.

Ok. Assuming that he won it as you said, that means he won it over Alli, Jesus, Rushford as they all are in the same age bracket.
Sir, do you know the difference between nominated and won?

Did Ademola play for another EPL team before he joined Everton? Or you don't know the meaning of EPL?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:07pm On Dec 07, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
You are more interested in attacking than debating the point.

The game today is more about forwards than a center forward. Raheem Sterling played as a lead striker for Liverpool. Dries Mertens who used to play on the wings, spearheads the attack of Napoli.

Guardiola opted for Gabriel Jesus over Iheanacho and to some extent Aguero because of the point you are trying to argue against. Gabriel Jesus offers more attributes. Yesterday, he missed a chance created by Brahim Diaz and missed another chance, a one on one created by Phil Foden. I pointed that out to some people. Nacho might finish those chances better than Gabriel Jesus but Guardiola wants Gabriel Jesus all round play over converting chances.

Among our forwards today, including Onyekuru and Kayode, what they can do is play multiple roles. This also allows switching of roles during tactical play as Iheanacho and Iwobi drifted to the middle during play. Or when the Anderlecht coach switched Onyekuru to play the striking role.

Some teams play with the traditional striking method but a lot of coaches are switching to a more modern way.
Do I agree there is modern day CF and traditional point man? Yes.

Which one are we using in our own national team? That is my interest and not how Man city and Napoli play with CF or forwards.

Iheanacho was in Man city that plays the modern day forward but why was he sold off if he could play the modern day forward?

Simple, he can't play both.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:25pm On Dec 07, 2017
Humility017:
hope ademola lukman makes the 3 lions world cup sqaud....
valauable...I can relate in the sense that he is English but talent wise you've got to be kidding....

he could not even gatecrash their last friendly games.....despite the massive injuries their key players suffered.
If Ademola Lukeman is not talented, why was he nominated for EPL young player of the year even ahead of Iheanacho and Ndid?

Do you rate Onyekuru highly than Iheanacho and Ndidi? grin

Do you want to compare the talents available for selection in the English team with Nigeria?

How many Kane, Dele Ali, Rashford, etc do you have?

Most of our players might likely not make England team D. grin

If Ademola comes to the national team now, he might likely bench some players. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:05pm On Dec 07, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
You do not need a whole encyclopedia to explain your point. Pick excerpts and Paste the link.
However, the game is changing and the traditional point man role is fading off. Yes, we still have center forwards in the Modern game but their role or the job they are required to do is different from the way it was played in the past.

A good example is Luis Suárez and Neymar. There were a lot of times, you find Suarez who is the CF, crossing from the wings for Neymar who is the side forward.

This goes as far as Alanta 96 where Crespo drifted to the right wing and laid a brilliant cross for Claudio Lopez who buried the goal against Nigeria in the final. Keep in mind Crespo in his earlier days played as an attacking midfielder.

Just like Gabriel Jesus who can play multiple roles or Iheanacho who played on the right us against Argentina and on the left as a sub in one of the recent games of Leicester City. He has also played the nine role in a game for Leicester City.

The game today requires forwards than a traditional number nine with a Primary goal of just converting chances.
Did you read 'traditional or Modern' in the whole encyclopedia?

I am referring to modern day football and also the traditional point man. Or is that not what you read up there?

My point still remains the same.

However, do you want to deny the fact that, how the CF plays depends on the formation and tactics of a team?
We are not talking about how Barcelona or Man city play here or the versatility of a player, we are talking about the Nigerian national team and the way we play.

Based on this, Iheanacho has been found wanting on that role for the national team and even Man city who plays modern day CF under Guardiola has also found him wanting else Gabriel Jesus would not have been a necessary buy if Guardiola thinks the available Iheanacho is capable for the so called Modern day CF but unfortunately Guardiola sold him off.

So, on both front iheanacho doesn't fit into both the traditional and Modern day CF.

That explains why dey are trying to play him on the flanks which I also think will backfire because he does not seems to have the skills and other needed ability to play wide.

Now, did you get my points?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
FORWARD

The forward (10, red) is past the defence (16, white) and is about to take a shot at the goal. The goalkeeper will attempt to stop the forward from scoring a goal by preventing the ball from passing the goal line.
Forwards are the players on an association football team who play nearest to the opposing team's goal, and are therefore most responsible for scoring goals.

Their advanced position and limited defensive responsibilities mean forwards normally score more goals on behalf of their team than other players.

Modern team formations generally include one to three forwards; for example, the common 4–2–3–1 formation includes one forward.[1] Unconventional formations may include more than three forwards, or none.[2][3]


Centre-forward

The traditional role of a centre-forward is to score the majority of goals on behalf of the team.
The player may also be used to win long balls or receive passes and retain possession of the ball with their back to goal as teammates advance, in order to provide depth for their team or help teammates score by providing a pass ('through ball' into the box); the latter variation usually requiring quicker pace and good movement. Most modern centre-forwards operate in front of the second strikers or central attacking midfielders, and do the majority of the ball handling outside the box. The present role of centre-forward is sometimes interchangeable with that of an attacking midfielder, especially in the 4–3–1–2 or 4–1–2–1–2 formations. The term "target man" is often used to describe a particular type of striker whose main role is to win high balls in the air and create chances for other members of the team (not necessarily scoring many goals themselves).[4] These players are usually tall and physically strong, being adept at heading the ball. The term centre-forward is taken from the early football playing formation in which there were five forward players: two outside forwards, two inside forwards, and one centre-forward.

When numbers were introduced in the 1933 English FA Cup final, one of the two centre-forwards that day wore the number nine – Everton's Dixie Dean a strong, powerful forward who had set the record for the most goals scored in a season in English football during the 1927–28 season. The number would then become synonymous with the centre-forward position (only worn that day because one team was numbered 1–11 whilst the other was numbered 12–22).[5]

Striker


United States women's national football team striker Alex Morgan
The role of a striker is rather different from that of a traditional centre-forward, although the terms centre-forward and striker are used interchangeably at times, as both play further up the field than other players, while tall, heavy and technical players, like Zlatan Ibrahimović, have qualities which are suited to both positions.[6] Like the centre-forward, the traditional role of a striker is to score goals; strikers are therefore known for their ability to peel off defenders and to run into space via the blind side of the defender and to receive the ball in a good goalscoring position, as typified by Ronaldo.[7] They are typically fast players with good ball control and dribbling abilities. More agile strikers like Michael Owen have an advantage over taller defenders due to their short bursts of speed. A good striker should be able to shoot confidently with either foot, possess great power and accuracy, and have the ability to link-up with teammates and pass the ball under pressure in breakaway situations. While many strikers also wear the number 9 shirt, the position is also associated with the number 10, which is frequently worn by more creative deep-lying forwards such as Pele, and occasionally with numbers 7 and 11, which are often associated with wingers.[5]

Second striker Edit

Deep-lying forwards have a long history in the game, but the terminology to describe their playing activity has varied over the years. Originally such players were termed inside forwards, creative or deep-lying centre-forwards. More recently, two more variations of this old type of player have developed: the second, or shadow, or support, or auxiliary striker and, in what is in fact a distinct position unto its own, the number 10,[8] exemplified by Diego Maradona, who is often described as an attacking midfielder or the playmaker.

The second striker position is a loosely defined and most often misapplied description of a player positioned somewhere between the out-and-out striker, whether he is a "target-man" or more of a "poacher", and the Number 10 or attacking midfielder, while possibly showing some of the characteristics of both. In fact, a coined term, the "nine-and-a-half", has been an attempt to become a standard in defining the position.[9] Conceivably, a Number 10 can alternate as a second-striker provided that he or she is also a prolific goalscorer; otherwise, a mobile forward with good technical ability (dribbling skills and ball control) and link-up play, who can both score and create opportunities for a less versatile centre-forward, is more suited. Second or support strikers do not tend to get as involved in the orchestration of attacks as the Number 10, nor do they bring as many other players into play, since they do not share the burden of responsibility, functioning predominantly as assist providers.[10] In Italy, this role is known as a "rifinitore" or "seconda punta",[11] whereas in Brazil, it is known as "segundo atacante"[12] or "ponta-de-lança".[13]

https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_(association_football)&ved=0ahUKEwjqj4nlwPfXAhUD0xoKHZK7APkQFghdMBA&usg=AOvVaw2TX80Cdfxcj-52ZnsrbLE1


@bolded 1, Made it clear that modern football of today needs and still uses CF in a 4-2-3-1 formation which we largely used during our qualification to the WC. But all the players we used in that position did not measure up to the requirements this formation was created for. Players like Iheanacho and Ighalo failed woefully in this position. Na Onyekuru wey no sabi play CF go come do magic?



@bolded 2, what is the responsibility of a CF in our 4-2-3-1 formation?
As we can all see, it is to score majority of the goals but in our case Ighalo and Iheanacho could oonly score 1 goal each in 5 and 4 games respectively when played as a CF in our 4-2-3-1 formation.

These explains why our CFs are not the highest goal scorers.

@bolded 3, this shows how a CF could achieve his goals when played as a CF in a 4-2-3-1 formation.
If Iheanacho can't control ball and can't deft touch, how can he even hold the ball?
We have seen him struggled several times in both the national team and club with ball control and in the CF role.

Na onyekuru wey no sabi how to position and hold unto ball na em go come play CF for us in our 4-2-3-1formation?

Ighalo can play the role well but he is not prolific enough else he should have scored 3 goals in five matches and that could have made him the highest goal scorer in our team as expected of a CF but he is far from it.


@ 4&5 suggested that if we need a striker who can dribble, find space, fast, shot accurately with both legs and prolific at scoring goals, it is not Iheanacho and Onyekuru because they simply don't have all these attributes, and, therefore, do not fit into our 4-2-3-1 formation. They are SS and LW respectively.

Rohr has seen it all hence the need to try Iheanacho as a RW and later tried to see if he could gel in another formation. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
ChrisKels:
Lol finally u believe Onyekuru is the real deal but on the LW.

He also seem to be the winger the Evertonians are so dying to have, not Ademola Lukman grin the tweets suggest that grin grin
I have always known that Onyekuru is good but I do not see him as a CF.

Do you want me to show you how the Everton's fans are dying for Ademola Lukeman?


Don't forget Ademola Lukeman is more valuable than Henry Onyekuru.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
I watched Onyekuru played on the LW in the first half yesterday and he didn't disappoint but when he was moved to the CF position for almost 40 minutes in second half, I realized what his coach said was true. He can't play the CF position because he lacks the instinct and ability of a CF. But people here thinks otherwise hence the clamour to add him as the third CF. Smh

We want to go to WC with Iheanacho who is impotence as a CF, Ighalo who could only score one goal after 5 games, and to to add more salt to injury, we want Henry the prolific LW but impotent and ineffective as a cf, as the 3rd option for the Cf slot. Ok na.


Twitter reacts to Everton loanee Henry Onyekuru's performance

Dan Coombs @hitcdancoombs12 hours ago
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Everton loanee Henry Onyekuru helped Anderlecht to a 1-0 away win.

Henry Onyekuru of Anderlecht in action during the UEFA Champions League group B match between RSC Anderlecht and Bayern Muenchen at Constant Vanden Stock Stadium on November 22, 2017 in...



Henry Onyekuru made a positive impression as Anderlecht beat Celtic to record their first Champions League win of the season.

Onyekuru was signed by Everton in the summer from Eupen, amid competition from several clubs including Celtic.

Everton loaned Onyekuru out for work permit reasons, and he is picking up valuable experience at Anderlecht.

#gratewin #amazinatmosphere #uefachampionsleague #thankful pic.twitter.com/utyRia3rIu

— Henry Onyekuru (@henryconyekuru) December 5, 2017
Oneyekuru's Anderlecht earned a 1-0 win, although it was not enough to help them earn a Europa League spot.

The forward's pace caused problems for Celtic all night, and although his one shot landed off target, he managed to create one goalscoring opportunity.

Anderlecht's Nigerian forward Henry Onyekuru (L) vies for the ball with Paris Saint-Germain's French goalkeeper Alphonse Areola during the UEFA Champions League Group B football match...

He was played on the left of a three man attack, where he has frequently been dangerous this season in the Jupiler Pro League.

Onyekuru has eight goals in 16 league games, 12 of which has been starts.

He could prove to be Everton's best summer signing of the bunch, and his recent call up to the Nigeria national team enhances his opportunity of playing in the Premier League next season.

Here is a look at how Twitter reacted to Onyekuru's performance, including comments from Everton and Celtic fans...

Onyekuru, Nigerian Neymar

— J. (@futboljosh_) December 5, 2017
Onyekuru woulda been some signing for us btw

— Kieran (@kmccluskey67) December 5, 2017
Excited for Onyekuru to start for us next season!

— William (@dvnwllm) December 5, 2017
Onyekuru > Ronaldo#CELAND

— Thot Patroller (@Brecht_Guill) December 5, 2017
Watching the Celtic v Anderlecht game. Why on earth have @Everton not recalled Onyekuru. The guy is brilliant. Pacy and strong.

— Sean (@BfastSean) December 5, 2017
Watching Celtic game. Henry Onyekuru looks great, get him over in January in time for the derby cup match.

— PedroHassett (@SopranoJunior) December 5, 2017
Henry Onyekuru is gonna be an amazing player, you can tell! Lucky we got him when we did.

— Samuel Allardycio (@Asablueboy2) December 5, 2017
Only early in the game but can’t quite fathom why Everton loaned out Onyekuru. He’s got the pace they’ve been crying out for all season.

— Kyle (@KyleMcGowan_) December 5, 2017
Can we get that Henry Onyekuru back to Everton because he looks a class player and speed to burn aswell. #efc #Everton

— neil (@neil2012brown) December 5, 2017


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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:06pm On Dec 06, 2017
goldfish80:
The juju mysteriously disappears whenever Ghana qualified for the World Cup grin
Didn't he run from the last WC? grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:30pm On Dec 06, 2017
goldfish80:
He just wants to ride on the back of Nigeria for a shot at the world cup,going by the statement. Is that not a Kevin Prince Boateng red flag?
I think Kevin ran away from the juju in that team. grin

We no get that one for here. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:19pm On Dec 06, 2017
Mujtahida:
Forgiveness hear the non-committal words of Ryan whom you get red hot over. He himself is almost cold about the whole thing. He said he's focused on Sparta.
Bros, pls read that thing well. He has declared to play for us. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:16pm On Dec 06, 2017
nelszx:
Ryan Sanusi declares for Nigeria dunno how true but "our" media outlets carried the story

https://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/football_pics/87388RYAN.jpg

http://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=25722

Modified: Translated version from Dutch to English (I don't trust these our journalists grin)

BELGIAN WITH NIGERIA TO WORLD CUP? "BELGIUM DIFFICULT STORY"



Nigeria is keeping an eye on the situation of Cyriel Dessers, but there is another Belgian who does see what to do for Nigeria.

Ryan Sanusi plays for Sparta Rotterdam. "It's not something I'm really working on, but it would of course be great," acknowledges the cousin of Belgian international Moussa Dembélé to Het Algemeen Dagblad.

The Red Devils are far too ambitious. "After all, every player wants the highest possible, and higher than a World Cup you can not come as a football player, and the Belgian team will be a difficult story for me. But who knows, there is a chance for me to come out for Nigeria World Cup In Nigeria there are also a lot of good footballers, but it seems to me that I will get a chance there rather than in Belgium, although I do not really take it into account, I focus entirely on Sparta. "

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=nl&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://www.voetbalbelgie.be/nl/article.php%3Fid%3D130608&usg=ALkJrhhdXmJoDStHugzmsYuJ8jpHJJkGEw

Everyone wants to play at the World Cup
@bolded confirmed he has declared for Nigeria. Oh ha! grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
Humility017:
good you've shifted the goal post a little.
mind you and your cling....Martins is not the most inform Nigeria player at the moment...
I read where one myopic mind already start to rate him as the super eagles current best striker.....

presently batholew ogbeche is more inform and he should be recalled to the super eagles before martins.....
Which goal post?

My stance still remain the same.

Martins was part of the WC qualifiers hence he deserves a look. That's all.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:25pm On Dec 06, 2017
Humility017:
Lol.........
he first call this young players pretenders at some point...
pretenders scoring in their European club leagues weekly.........if the likes of Henry,yinka Dennis etc are pretenders so be it.....
better than one tired leg...in China playing wit Chinese players who can't even manage get their country to playoff spot in world cup qualifiers.....

I pick ighalo ahead of him even though they both play in China...ighalo is not just a striker good wit his legs but his head as well.....and @world a striker need both to excel.
Martins is better on the air than Ighalo.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:38pm On Dec 06, 2017
Humility017:
and what was his impact in those two matches....if he had played well....
albeit rohr would have still kept him in his books...
even Sylvester igboun played better....

any player would have played those two matches if they were invited...but it will take an exceptional player to live a mark...
even onobi and salami played those matches....
What was Ighalo's impact after two games in the WC qualifiers?


They all deserve to be given a chance if they remain inform prior to the WC.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:28pm On Dec 06, 2017
mazimee:
Rohr’s Scout Agali Hints – Bologna Forward Orji Could Take Kayode Eagles Spot



Red hot Bologna forward Orji Okonkwo could be in line for a first time call up according to the head scout of the Super Eagles Victor Agali during a radio interview monitored by Owngoalnigeria.com in Lagos.
Okonkwo has scored three goals in the Serie A from seven substitute appearance for Bologna, and Agali confirmed he is no doubt in the picture of the Super Eagles ahead of the World Cup in Russia.

” Every player doing well will be called up when the team resume preparations for the World Cup next year, just as some players not doing well for their club could lose their spot”, Agali said.
Although he didn’t mention the names of players who are on the brink of losing their national team spot, he however failed to provide any assurances that on loan Manchester City forward Olarewaju Kayode will be given a look in.

Kayode has struggled for game time at Girona since joining them on loan from Manchester City, and the forward who is presently out injured has also not made good use of the chances he has been given by coach of the lipsrsealed Nigeria national team Gernot Rohr.
Kayode has never been on Rohr's plan. So, save us the lies he will lose his place.

Which place? Person wey never kick ball don dey lose place?

Kayode, if you like score 1 million goals, accept now that you don't have a place in current SE before u go develop heart attack once your name goes missing on the WC list. Why? Me I no know. grin na just ya faith be that.

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