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Goke7:
forgiveness pls respond, we are waiting

RW and AMF.

mazimee:
Statistics that doesn't have his name on the score sheet
Statistics that doesn't have his name for an assist as a striker is surely not the Statistics your Martins will be happy with.

Martins was not played as a striker. Stop the lies, pls.

Goke7:
which world cup? trust me bruv personally I would have loved for martins to be in russia but on the bench to just come in occasionally but you know what, keeping an old player like martins on the bench as far as our Nigerian culture is concerned will breed problems for the team like we saw in the case of yobo in afcon 2013. [we had issues with the older players in 1998 world cup if you remember] I agree with Kogi45 who says enyeama and martins should be left out so as to keep the team unity. They are not bigger than Nigeria and they can't be missed that much. That's the fact and it's also time we look ahead with the younger folks we have now. Russia 2018 will not be the end of football. Martins has given his best and we do appreciate him for that.

Freedom of association is enshrined in the constitution. So, only Martins holds the right to decide when and when not to quite, not you.

Goke7:
forgiveness is indirectly mocking martins cos am yet to understand from his point of view what the role of a striker is!

Martins was not played as a striker.

Humility017:
he singlehandly qualified who?

please I don't wanna argue this might...
I am very tired.

You wan deny facts on ground?

Humility017:
as if Martins would have make any difference....

common sense should tell you...that one of the reason we have failed to qualify for two Afcon....sentiments and corruption on the part of our indigenous coaches...

your Martins was a benefactor in one of the schemes...
when oliseh...seeks recruit his brother ex-academy players into the super eagles set up.....
him and Sylvester Igboun.... the latter even tried...scored a goal...but the other did nothing of good memory.

My memory tells.me that Martins was not part of the nations cup qualifiers failures. Try harder next time.

Besides, he deserved his call as at then based on his exploit in MLS. Can you deny that proven fact?

mazimee:
How by occupying space in the two matches he played against Swaziland

Anyhow, records and statistics proved he was part of the 2018 WC.sorry.

Humility017:
as if Martins would have make any difference....

common sense should tell you...that one of the reason we have failed to qualify for two Afcon....sentiments and corruption on the part of our indigenous coaches...

your Martins was a benefactor in one of the schemes...
when oliseh...seeks recruit his brother ex-academy players into the super eagles set up.....
him and Sylvester Igboun.... the latter even tried...scored a goal...but the other did nothing of good memory.

Of course, he would have.

Remember, in 2010 when the going got tough they had to recall the same regetted Martins whom dey excluded from the team due to politics to rescue them and he did exactly that.

Martins had singlehandedly qualified us for Nations cups and a world cup. Chain!

Goke7:
and we have bounced back to qualify for Russia without martins too

Point of correction, Obafemi was part of the team that qualified us for the WC. Gbam.

I think Onyekuru is playing on the LW and not the striking role.

Goke7:
no bias here the argument for martins recall looks weak as the Eagles have achieved greater feats without him. simple

Failure to qualify for two Nations cup is also greater achievements na.

Goke7:
no bias here the argument for martins recall looks weak as the Eagles have achieved greater feats without him. simple

Failure to qualify for two Nations

Goke7:
oh sani keita is the one who will blame now, who are we going to blame for martins failing to deliver against teams like kenya and swaziland? sani keita too?

Was Martins in the first match in WC cup wey you dey try hard to blame him?

Oga, did you watch those matches, abi na 4 here you read those biase reports?

Goke7:
we once had both martins and odemwinge at their prime in the world cup and we could not pass the first round. Now martins has suddenly become cr7 we can't do without. chai

Oga, if not for the Sani Kaita syndrome and injuries we for go far for dat WC.

Goke7:
if that was no failure, then akpeyi is not a failure cos I don't what else a striker does on the field of play

Didn't you see I defended Akpeyi here?

Questence:
We are talking about La liga.
La liga is the bes league in the world and the most technical.

Alampasu does not play in La liga.




Questence

So, all the teams therein are better than Chelsea, Juventus, Porto etc? See reasoning.

Goke7:
You have not responded to the guy who told you how martins failed to deliver under keshi with the chance given to him why are you avoiding that? If Martins had delivered under keshi, don't you think he will still be in the team till now? both ahmed and mikel delivered under keshi and are still delivering reason why they are still in the team.

looks like we all have forgotten that we won afcon 2013 and qualified for 2014 world cup without martins so what's this fuss all about.

Did you watch the match he played under Keshi?

That was no failure.

mazimee:
How is that an issue? Brain Idowo came through from the defence and did Argentina bad thing. Even small Ebuehi would would have gone home with an assist from the defence too.

Like I said earier, With all his hype here, I don't expect him to be average, We have enough average already. If we are going to get another average, it shoudn't be an old Martins but rather a young lad

Have you agreed Martins was part of the WC qualifiers?

This your story is a projection from the koko.

Questence:
The competency of Uzoho was known right before he made his debut with us.

Some of us took notice of him right from the moment he manned the post for deportivo in about 2 or 3 games when their mains were injured/unavailable.

Laliga is the zone of technicality. Their game is technical not kick and rush like the premier league. Uzoho would NEVER be picked to man the post if he was not very good.

Uzoho is competent. The snippet you saw of him against Argentina is just a tip of the iceberg.



Questence

So, Alampasu competency was not noticed against Fc Porto, ba?

mazimee:
Why e no score ?

You for ask, where em play?

SerVik:
That is a ridiculous assertion bro. The national team does not revolve around Iheanacho, the National team is bigger than any one individual.
Many people here adore Alampasu and were always at the forefront, leading calls for his promotion to first choice, but since the emergence of uzoho, such calls have reduced. I promise you this, if we have guys that are clearly ahead of Iheanacho, many wouldn't bat an eyelid if he is excluded.

But people wants us to believe Iheanacho is the best player in the national hence the team must be set up after his style. Abi you no know?

If you ask me to choose three goalkeepers now, I will not include Alampasu and Uzoho on my list. Gbam.

mazimee:
Which qualifying match did he play?

Swaziland.

Certitude:
But Martins failed to impress while he was given his chance under Keshi. Those mediocre players were even more impressive... I could remember Dike and Ameobi made me change my mind. Na only the midfield wonder me... Martins sef ain't no midfielder.

Keshi never wanted Martins. EOD

tbaba1234:
In 10 games, Uzoho has 7 clean sheets

Alampasu had no clean sheet in his first 5 games in the portuguese division 3.

Courtios only has 1 clean sheet in his first 5 competitive games this season and has no clean sheet in 6 games on a role this season.

Is Uzoho not better than him? Bhuahaha.

Now, answer my question. Can you give cogent fact to prove Alampasu was not impressive last season? I need fact from an independent unbiased source. Thank you.

Certitude:
I use to prefer Martins then to Yakubu cause I felt he was better. I was always surprised when Yakubu starts ahead of him. But since I turned full Super Eagles fan, the nigga haven't really impressed me. Who said Keshi never gave nigga a chance. I watched that match against Kenya. It took Oduamadi to save us from defeat at home. I watched him helped (was it Birmingham) win league cup and I wondered why he has never really impressed me in the National team.
Aside these perceptions, Martins is Short and looking not cool. And forgiveness likes him and I don't see him benching anyone even if invited...
Rohr would invite him
He will not make the final squad
Sir Forgiveness and komekn would bring up conspiracy theories
Sir Mickael2 will discredit the teams achievement
I will be at home laughing at them

The best has not always been preferred in Nigeria national team.

Can you explain why Martins who was capped in 2004 has only 40 caps while Mikel and Ahmed who were capped in 2006 and 2010 has 82 and 63 caps.

Martins who was capped in 2004 has 40 capps and he is the 5th highest goal scorer with 18 goals for the national team. He is just behind Yakubu and Ike Uche who are the third and fourth with 21and 19 goals and had been capped more than him with 58 and 46 caps.

As you can see Martins statistics is better than the aforementioned players.

Icon79:
I honestly don't know why he didn't make the 2014 World Cup team. But facts are facts, he was tried out and didn't make the team. But to be honest with you, I was actually surprised that he missed the cut in 2014 because I knew that Martins was having an MVP season at Seattle. But, for whatever reason, Keshi felt that the likes of Shola Ameobi, Michael Uchebo, and Uche Nwofor were better than him. But he would have definitely made my 2014 World Cup team, if I were making the cut.

But now, my case against Martins is that:
First, he's simply not better than the players we currently have in the team. I frankly don't see whom he could replace in the current team.
Secondly, he's way too old for us to waste a world cup slot on him. Since we are in rebuilding mode, any vacant slots should go to young players (Osihmen, Onyekuru, Kayode, etc).
Third, Martins isn't playing in a competitive league any more so his stats might not tell the whole story. Yes, numbers can actually lie. Scoring 10 goals in the Chinese league isn't the same thing as scoring 10 goals in EPL.
Fourthly, if Martins is so indispensable to the team, why didn't these folks clamoring for his recall made this case during the qualifiers? Now that we've qualified, all of a sudden we remember that we don't have a team without Obafemi Martins. Are you kidding me


O pari

Late Keshi destroyed our national team with his mediocre ways of selecting players. EOD

First of all, which striker is better than Martins in that team? Pls, list them.

Secondly, you can't discard an inform player for young player struggling for form based on age. It doesn't work in football.

Thirdly, are Ighalo and Mikel playing in competitive league?

Fourthly, Martins played two qualifiers matches hence contributed to the qualification to the WC. Gbam!

tbaba1234:
If only, a keeper's competence was decided by 1 game.

In the first team as 3rd choice, playing no games?

Do you know how many goals, Alampasu conceded? He was even dropped to the bench in a division 3 club.

Oooooh! I see. How many games did you see that made you decided the competency of Uzoho? 200 matches?

Can you give me prove and stop the epistles, pls?

tbaba1234:
Alampasu played the game against Porto in January 2016. 2 seasons ago. We are in December 2017.. Almost exactly 2 years now.

He was loaned out to the third division of Portugal last year and was not impressive.

This year, no games whatsoever.

He has been tested against one of the best team in world and his quality has been noticed. Eod

Can you prove with fact that Alampasu was not impressive last year?

If he was not impressive why did his club include him in the first team rather than send him on another loan?

Icon79:
I will lose total confidence on Agali if he advocates Obafemi Martins' invite. In 2014, Martins was much younger and playing in a more competitive MLS, yet he couldn't make the Brazil world cup team. Now, they want us to invite the over 40 year old Martins to camp! What for exactly?? Maybe I should come out of retirement and try my luck with the team as well, because I am pretty sure that I am not older than Martins by much, if at all


O pari

You are saying he couldn't make the team based on quality and not on merit. Now, that is being mischievous at best.

So. You mean Uchebo, Ameobi and the other boy deserved to be selected based on merit?

I know some of you are afraid Iheanacho might lose his position once he competes with a better player but pls do note that national team was not created for one player. It is for the best to come and fight for shirt.

tbaba1234:
He played one game against Porto 2 years ago in the portuguese cup. That is what your brother is talking about.

He has played nothing this season.

And that was why he received double promotion from third division straight to first division team.


Only ignoramus will prefer to be in third division team to first division team. Epe!

Kog45:
Sorry did he really played against Porto?cos guys didn't mentioned it here and even you,we need to be updated on our players performance especially goalkeepers.

Yes, he played against Fc Porto and didn't concede a goal. The match ended 2 -0

junnyjake:
With the way things are going, let no one cry foul when Kayode finally misses out on the 23-man WC list.

I knew people will start telling us how Kayode dey chop and miss bench without trying to know the reason he missed games but they are to give excuse on why Iheanacho dey chop and miss bench.

Is dis not double standard and na my brother syndrome, huh?