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Martins Obefemi played 2 matches out of 8 matches. He was part of the team that qualified us for the 2018 wc in Russia live and direct.

Fifa will even pay Martins for doing a good job. E pain am. He wan cry.

SerVik:
Uche did not score a single goal at Afcon 2013. Pray tell, how did he help win the trophy?
Even echiejile had more goals than Uche in that Afcon.

Who was the highest goal scorer prior to that 2013 Afcon tournament?

IKECHUKWU UCHE. Gbam! EOD.

Obafemi Martins played part in our WC qualification to Russia 2018 EOD

Who no know must know now.

SerVik:
I do not argue to win arguments, I argue to learn. I'm of the opinion that Ike uche did nothing special when he was invited, I presented my facts, if you have a superior argument, present it and stop harping on one penalty goal like a broken record.
Ike uche played against congo, Emenike earned a penalty, ike uche stepped up and scored. Without uche that penalty would have been earned, without uche, there is a high probability the penalty would have been converted.

In the second half, Aaron Samuel was introduced and he scored. Without uche he would have still scored

In the game against south Africa Sone Aluko scored 2 brilliant goals. Without uche he would have scored.
So what exactly was the special thing uche did that we would not have done without him?

He simply did not live up to the hype. Before his invitation, he was hyped as the prince that was promised, the press rolled out the red carpet, poets sang his praise, women from otueke to chibok threatened to protest naked if he wasn't invited. This was the kind of hype uche rode on to the Super Eagles camp, with that kind of hype he should be singlehandedly winning us 3 points but alas the only thing we remember him for is scoring a penalty he did not earn.

Lecture me on how Ike uche swung in like super man and single-handedly qualified us for the nations cup. Speak, oh yea wise one, I am listening.

Without Ikechukwu Uche no 2013 Afcon trophy. Chai!

mazimee:
Onyekuru is there, another worthy mention is Paul Ononachu

Why Onyekuru no score when he was given the chance?

kingphilip:
well i've not read the news anywhere

can you help me with the link?

and by the way the 2018 world have not come and gone so we judging him now might just be too early



have you thought about him taking an average player to the world cup to set himself to fail?

"We do not just want the team to qualify, but to go to Russia and break new grounds, set new records, possibly win the World Cup,” he said, while confirming that there is no division within the NFF Executive Committee.


http://.com/pinnick-reveals-world-cup-ambition


Well, I am afraid to say I am seeing signs of taking average players like Ezenwa and bench warmer Oshimen to the WC. I fear no bi small.

Goke7:
so how much has the team been better with martins in recent times. A great player brings so much value to the team like we see an experienced mikel whenever he plays. The Eagles have now qualified for the wcq and suddenly we remember we can be better with a martins. Doesn't work like that bruv. It took just 45 mins for us to know how much value ebuehi and an idowu can bring to a team, martins was handed same chance in the recent past[when in mls and even in china] and he failed to deliver yet we keep insisting he should be recalled on the basis of his exploits back in milan and newscastle. Am sorry it's not working for me.

According to your assertion Onyekuru failed to deliver but why do you still want him in the team?

kingphilip:
so what's Rohr's task

Initially, it was to build a team but now Pinnick wants the 2018 WC trophy in our cabinet.

As we can see, we are in for a greater task than 2012 WC task hence the need to achieve the task with better quality players.

Goke7:
This is my major headache on this forum, other players are blamed for favourite players' flop and its not getting funny anymore

Iheanacho flopped big time in his first two games for the SE and several times as a CF. Why you no want talk about this truth? Oh! The truth is bitter.

SerVik:
Here you go again. Stop living on past glory, this is the same way you've been embarrassing yourself with Alampasu's clean sheet against Porto 2years ago now it's uche's top scorer award in 2010. Uche was invited in 2014 for nations cup qualifiers, he did nothing special. Against congo he scored from the penalty spot, he did not win the penalty, emenike did. Against south Africa, we needed Sone Aluko's brilliance to earn a draw, again ike uche was on the pitch, nothing special. Truth is we have a special spot for certain players and when those players don't live up to expectations, we try to find certain excuses, just as you are using injury as an excuse to justify haruna's atrocious performance. Was haruna certified fit or not for the game? That haruna's performance was one of the worst performances I have ever seen from a professional. Injury or not, he flopped.

Finito

Thank God you admitted Ikechukwu Uche scored a goal in the only two matches he played. Eod

According to you Mikel Obi flopped in the first leg against Swaziland hence the reason he was benched by Oliseh in the second leg for Onabi who did better than Mikel, ba? Bhuahaha.

komekn:
Young does not mean better.

Apart from KC that set of U17 players all approaching 21 are still largely potential.

Osimhen that has been highlighted even invited to the SE is yet to play a full game for Wolfsburg and struggles to make the bench. So he is essentially a youth player.

So who are the young players that we have that can be compared to Obagoal name one

Taiwo Awoniyi and Dessers are far ahead of Oshimen but mago mago wan Oshimen.

edi287:
I'm starting to think when it comes to Nacho, some people lose any sense of rational thinking on here. We've seen people say Nacho is better than Martins was at his age despite a young Martins raping Nesta and Maldini then. Now we're hearing Martins was a flop for SE despite scoring being our 5th highest goal scorer and having scored 11 in his first 15 games. Funny thing is most are only advocating for Martins to be a squad player/impact sub. What is there to be afraid of?? If he flops at the friendlies - don't invite him. It's not that hard

Iheanacho is only better than Martins in their fantasy.

Kog45:
Gok man good you said culture which mean we have imbibed it but not written rules.

The captain of a team can only be decided by a coach, comes tomorrow if Rohr said Mikel is no longer the captain that's it.Remember old Musa was removed as vice captain for younger Onazi,mind you Echiejele is still in the team

When Rohr was appointed the first thing he said was Mikel remain my captain just to set the record straight that am not ready to appoint another captain.

Let's go down to memory lane a bit on eagles captain,hope you still remember afcon 1984 Muda Lawal was the oldest with 4 afcon appearance but young Keshi was the captain.

Paul Hamilton made Andrew Uwe his captain at the despite having older players like Peter Rufai, Henry Nwosu,Ademola Adeshina even when Keshi came back fully during afcon and Olympics qualifiers in 1987,Andrew Uwe was still the captain

Hope you remember how Alloy Agu captain the team during early Westerhoff era with the presence of Ademola Adeshina,Andrew Uwe,Rasheed Yekini.

There was never a time Enyeama captain Eagles with the presence of Joseph Yobo in camp.Enyeama only captain the team on the field if Yobo find himself on the bench and this happened at Afcon 2013,this made Enyeama to handover captain band to him in the final to collect the cup.

The same scenario played itself at Tunisia 94 when Austin Eguavoen handed over captain band to Keshi after final game to collect the cup.

Remember Sunday Olishe was made the captain at the expense of older Finidi George 2000-2002 and no issue on it.

It was only Chuckwu(1980)Keshi(1990-1994)Austin Okocha(2002-2006)Kanu (2006-2010)Yobo(2010-2014)Enyeama (2014-2016)now Mikel, these are the beneficiaries of oldest being the captain.

My man it all depends on coaches decision cos a lot of things are put into consideration before a captain of the team is chosen.

Pls, tell dem.

Goke7:
it's only a coach who doesn't know what he is doing that will prefer martins to younger players. Except there are injuries to our current forward players, martins chances are very slim only forgiveness thinks otherwise. The younger players are hungry to make a name like we saw during the wcq and the Argentina friendly. what is martins hungry for? fame, he has it, money, very plenty. old players just want to be a part of the world cup jamboree, that's all. Martins has nothing to prove again. same thing with enyeama.

Mourinho and Athletico Madrid coach no sabi wetin dem dey do hence the need to bring old Abrahmovic and Torres into their teams.

Humility017:
there is nothing simple anymore...
we have gone beyond the stage of trial and error....
the bench should be for young and hungry players.....and not for one old leg.

your points on nacho and many others posing an average performance is not true...

even when the young nacho fired blanks you see his impact in those games...how he kept pressure on the opponent defenders. ..
as such allow his colleagues to do damages...

on unche....I believe you just trying to create excuses for him....
more than 45 minutes is enough for any player to prove himself...
I remember osaze took just few minutes to prove keshi wrong against Iran...and against Bosnia he earned a starting berth...and even scored the lone goal....


so that lane excuses for martins and co holds no water......

Young hungry players chopping bench.

Oga, Ike Uche was the team highest goal scorer prior to the 2013 Afcon we won. He scored a goal in one of the only two matches he played in the 2015 Afcon we failed to qualify. Was that failure?

If na failure, wetin we go call Ighalo 5 matches with only 1 goal and Iheanacho 1 goal in 4 matches as a CF?

Woefull.

Goke7:
Oh you are going that lane abi? that was why Onigbinde failed in 2002 when he tried a system that worked for him in 1984.

You keep using things from the past to want to justify the present and it's not working bro and cannot work.

Was Onigbide tasked to win the WC or to raise a new team?

If the latter is the answer, then it is safe to say Onigbide didn't fail because he raised quality players that lasted for a while. Gbam

Goke7:
Oh you are going that lane abi? that was why Onigbinde failed in 2002 when he tried a system that worked for him in 1984.

You keep using things from the past to want to justify the present and it's not working bro and cannot work.

That was a rebuttal to your false statement that says and I quote 'It's a longstanding culture in the eagles for the oldest player to be captain and undisputed leader in the team'

Next time check your facts before stating dem here.

Kog45:
Muda Lawal was the oldest and 22 years old Stephen Keshi was the captain,this singular decision by Onigbinde always my point against anyone who called Onigbinde a tribal man.

You dey mind the fake icon of Nigerian football history. Na my brother history em sabi and he wants all of dem in d starting 11in order to boast his villagers are best in Nigeria in one of those his beer parlour talks.

Kog45:
Muda Lawal was the oldest and 22 years old Stephen Keshi was the captain,this singular decision by Onigbinde always my point against anyone who called Onigbinde a tribal man.

Thank you very much. Do you know why we failed against Cameroun in the finals of 1984 Nations cup?

Don't you think it is the same goalkeeper issue?

tbaba1234:
NPFL Invitational: Contest for Enyimba's gloves starts here

The fight for first team goalkeeper in the camp of former champions, Enyimba International promises to be a matter of interest at the 2017/18 Nigeria Professional Football League (NPFL) Pre-season Invitational which kicks off at the Sani Abacha Stadium in Kano from Monday, December 11.

 

In his return to the club, coach Paul Aigbogun is faced with a headache many coaches would pray for. For the season, the club has listed three keepers with potentials to lay claim to the number one spot.

It is no longer news that the club has recruited national team keeper, Ikechukwu Ezenwa. The question on many lips has been; will Ezenwa be the undisputed first choice at the Confederation Cup campaigners?

This question becomes pertinent taking into cognizance the presence of Theophilus Afelokhai and Ghanaian, Fatau Dauda. It will be recalled that there was no clear-cut first choice among the duo last season with former coach, Gbenga Ogunbote doing more of rotation.

There was little or nothing to pick between the two and with each passing training session, Ogubbote's task got more difficult. The club then instituted a type of incentive which saw whoever had more clean sheets between the two get some reward. Any keeper who had three consecutive clean sheets home and away got what was called the chairman's bonus.

This even made the competition fiercer. Not conceding goals meant more to the keepers. This writer got wind of the bonus after seeing Dauda's reaction to Stephen Odey's goal when Enyimba engaged MFM in Calabar. That goal in his first home game, jolted his quest for the chairman's bonus. Afelokhai went ahead to pocket the bonus once last season but never got a breathing space from Dauda.

After stints at Chippa United, Orlando Pirates and Ashanti Gold, Dauda came highly rated. Currently Ghana's third choice keeper, he commands a pedigree that could easily install him as a first choice in any NPFL club. The desire to keep his national team place has heightened his quest to be Enyimba's first choice.

But he has to contend with Afelokhai, a colossal figure between the sticks. Afelokhai moved to Enyimba after a 10 year stint at Kano Pillars which heralded the golden era of Sai Masu Gida. He was in charge as Pillars won the title three consecutive times. This was the intimidating reputation he brought to Enyimba, Nigeria's most successful team.

So whatever high ratings Dauda brought from Ghana was dwarfed by the serial winner, Afelokhai. Just as Afelokhai cannot dismiss Dauda's credentials with a wave of the hand. It is therefore understandable if a coach has difficulties picking one ahead of the other.

If Ogunbote had this headache last season, Aigbogun will even be faced with a tougher task next term with Ezenwa's addition. With Vincent Enyeama stalling on returning to the national team, Ezenwa is primed to be Nigeria's first choice at the World Cup thus the need to get more playing time.

Not a few attributed his poor showing against Algeria in Constantine to inactivity due to the NPFL season being on break. For him to excel at football's showpiece event, he must get regular competitive action. To do so, he must upstage Afelokhai and Dauda at Enyimba.

Was Enyimba the right choice for Ezenwa? Shouldn't he have opted for a club where he will be a clear-cut first choice?

Enyimba Sporting Director, Jude Anyadufu was at the center of the Ezenwa's deal and thinks it was the best for the player and the nation.

His words; "Ezenwa needs a big club like Enyimba that is also on the continent. He is going to the World Cup and could be Nigeria's first choice so he needs to play actively both in the league and on the continent. He needs to face quality oppositions that should give some idea about what he will see at the World Cup".

But would the presence of Afelokhai and Dauda guarantee the regular football Ezenwa would crave for?

Anyadufu replied; "He does not need any guarantee. He has to fight for his place. These two keepers will make him work hard both in training and in the matches. He doesn't need to be sure that he must start. That will make him feel relaxed. If Ezenwa must play for a club in the NPFL, it should be Enyimba. We will do our best in the club to ensure he is ready for the World Cup".

"We still have the chairman's bonus in place for this season. He has to battle it out with the other keepers. Before he gets the opportunity to keep clean sheets, he must play. And he has to prove to the coaches in training that he is better than Dauda and Afelokhai. We are happy to have three quality keepers in the team. You will also know that we are playing in three competitions. There will be enough matches for all of them to show what they can do. What it means is that whatever happens, we must have somebody solid in goal in every match"

The audition for Enyimba's number one spot this season starts with the NPFL Pre-season Invitational. While Dauda and Afelokhai will be on parade for Enyimba, Ezenwa will file out for CHAN Eagles. Interestingly, Enyimba and CHAN Eagles are in the same group. A scenario having Ezenwa on one end and the duo on the other is in the offing.

http://www.npfl.ng/index.php/news-features/club-news/2518-npfl-invitational-contest-for-enyimba-s-gloves-starts-here

I go go watch Enyimba match one day but if Enyimba fans see Ezenwa mess up, we go throw am pure water.

Goke7:
and we landed in the 2010 world cup final ba? wonders indeed

I see. Mikel Obi won us the 2014 WC trophy?

Goke7:
truth is martins have no place in the present eagles set up except the players you mentioned above are injured

Did Ighalo and Iheanacho floped or not? Answer question.

Goke7:
It's a longstanding culture in the eagles for the oldest player to be captain and undisputed leader in the team, mikel can never be captain with an enyeama in the team. The older players have always been disruptive in our national teams or you think a mikel can set the rules for martins?

It's not a joke o! It has cost us real problems in the past world cups and afcon tournaments. You think all was well in the camp when yobo was present and enyeama was captain? Have you forgotten how enyeama quickly handed over the afcon trophy to yobo in 2013.

We can't simply afford those distractions in the world cup with the group we are in. Our players are not oyinbos for Christ sake despite playing in europe, na thick african blood dem get where seniority na big matter

Who was the oldest player in Festus Onigbide 1984 silver winning Nations cup team? Who was the captain then?

Mujtahida:
Did he play the game alone for you to say the bolded? It is such exaggerations as this that open players up for criticism. Same thing most here do with Iheanacho. If analysis is balanced and moderate it would rarely elicit attack unlike this widely exaggerated statement of yours.

So, you didn't see how a one legged limping Martins scored the 2 two goals that qualified us for the 2010 WC?

SerVik:
Name your 3

Vincent Enyeama, Dele Aiyenugba and Dele Ajiboye.

blueto:
You people have started again. last time it was “Argentina will easily over run our midfield because of Ogu's lack of pace” but that was not the case. Ogu is a disciplined player who is aware of his weakness and tries to harness it to his advantage. He knows the right time to go forward and when to sit back and I will say he does the job better than Onazi who is known for running around and leaving the defense exposed. Why did Nigeria concede against Algeria in Uyo? Onazi and one other player were busy marking a single with the ball, and left another Algerian player in the face of the defense who received the ball and had all the time in the world to position and hit the ball straight to the roof of the net. With that kind of defensive lapses from Onazi against “top teams” in the world cup, the defense will be badly exposed which may be capitalized on. The team needs a disciplined player who puts his primary duty of shielding the defense first before any other thing and one of those player is Ogu. He was even the one that concentrated more on his defensive duties than Ndidi in that game against Argentina. The Argentines had tough time trying to go through the center, and he also assisted Idowu on the left. He may not be a very pacy player but he knows how to cope and play good football anytime he is called upon.

Why was it not exposed against France in 2014 while he was on the pitch?

Goke7:
you guys have a way of defending the flop of your favourite players even when its glaring to all

Ighalo and Iheanacho don flop too, times without numbers. Abeg, make we look ourselves in the face and tell the truth for once.

blacksteel:
How time flies...this same Martin that was forming for super eagles during his hay days @ Inter Milan is now begging to be part of the same team in 2017. Thank God we have a no- nonsense coach in Gernot Rohr. Trust me,if an indigenous coach was in charge of this team,alot of useless players who have passed their prime like Martins and Co would have been forced down his throat. The likes of Agali,Alloy Agu are the bad eggs in the current coaching crew. These guys are corrupt!

So, na Mikel Obi no form? His was worst yet we kept inviting him.

Even, Vicmo can't be exempted from this same attitude you are pointing accusing fingers yet he is the best player in our team. Abeg, find another cogent reason to nail Martins.

Goke7:
so folks who play this position are banned from scoring? your excuses can't save martins

And how many goals did Ahmed Musa, Tega Etebor, Henry Onyekuru etc scored in those positions?

How many goals did Ighalo score in 5 matches he played as a CF for 411 minutes?

Just 1 goal. Smh

SerVik:
Remember the cries for ike uche? When he was finally invited what did he do? What about Lukman Haruna? That one was so poor he couldn't even complete 1st half before he was subbed off.

The fans will always feel they're better players not invited. The grass is always greener at the other side, typical Nigerian mentality.

You lie no bi small.

When was Ike Uche invited and failed? You mean the joint top goalscorer for Nigeria in 2010 WC qualifiers and the top goalscorer for Nigeria in 2013 Nations cup qualifiers did nothing? Why d lie na?

In 2015 Nations cup qualifiers Ike Uche still scored a goal in two matches? Why you dey lie, na?

Oga, Lukeman Haruna was not called when he was inform, so it was expected. Person wey just dey come out from long injury na em you expect to perform wonders?

Beside, when Lukeman was playing 247 in his club and got invited, he performed wonders against Argentina and Greece at the 2010 WC.

So, try know situation of things before you feed people here with lies.

Goke7:
with moses, mikel, iwobi, iheanacho and Ighalo, these folks have got lots of goals in them, rohr just need to ginger them to work together more as a team and we will be fine, gradually modern football has moved a bit from just having traditional cf, as the greatest players we've seen in recent times are not traditional cf in the mould of messi, cr7, neymar and co.

Where did Martins play sometimes in Newcastle?

mazimee:
Then followed by a midfilder Moses Simon


In the first leg against Swaziland, the old Man played full 90 minutes and could not even prove anything in the goaless match againts ordinary Swaziland.

You can lie oooo.