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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:19am On Oct 24, 2017
soetanoreoluwa:
Any link or source?
I read it on Sporting life
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:15am On Oct 24, 2017
Joebie:
hahaha.. how many players have played in the Brazilian league eh @ forgiveness ?.. Brazilians play almost everywhere.. in fact many relatively unknown Brazilian players are average. oya tell us.. did he play in the 2nd 3rd, 4th tier of the Brazilian league?
or don't it matter? now we don catch u..
If he gets a club in EPL and he performs well, I will clamor for him..
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:12am On Oct 24, 2017
terzurum5:
I had to check if you were the one. For sure the Forgiveness I knew has not lost steam.
grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:08am On Oct 24, 2017
Icon4s:
The one goalie I am almost certain will make it to Russia is Ikechukwu Ezenwa. He may likely end up as second choice to either Enyeama or Akpeyi. He has always proven to be a good back up goalie.

Recall one of our qualifiers I think Algeria game when Ikeme, Ezenwa and Alampasu were invited. Ikeme got injured and Akpeyi was invited to replace Ikeme while Ezenwa still remained backup.
I think Rohr feels Ezenwa doesn't have the kind of exposure to be a number 1 keeper.

As for the young goalies, I don't see Rohr taking more than one, that is if he takes any of them. So for your second list of goalies one of Uzoho and Alampasu may likely have to drop.
NFF board members are fighting hard to stop Rohr from inviting Vincent Enyeama to the National team because they perceived Rohr is not disposed in taking Ezenwa to the World Cup.

They even threatened to terminate his appointment if he insist on bringing back Enyeama from retirement.

They don't want any retired Super Eagles players in the world cup except those who participated in the world cup qualifiers. Opening the door for players like Ambrose and Obafemi Martins are exempted because they participated in the world cup.

My point is, if Rohr have is way, Ikechuckwu Ezenwa should kiss the world cup, good bye. This is going by the report I read on newspaper.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:55am On Oct 24, 2017
Icon4s:
Boss,
I feel its high time we changed the nomenclature of this thread.

It is no longer a 'New thread' neither is it a 'New Super Eagles'.

I suggest it be altered to 'The Super Eagles Thread:................' Every other thing remaining same.

My people wetin una say?

cc: joseph1013, tbaba1234, TheGoodJoe, forgiveness, safarigirl, goldfish80, enomakos, Kog45, Michael2, Orkpekyandega, Mujtahid, icon79, eterisan, blueto, joebie, confun, petrobros, do4luv14, Chriskels, Chrisoblog, Humility017, all Parliamentarians not mentioned please pardon me, you are included.
Hmmm! I think this Super Eagles is still new. I may be wrong.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:19pm On Oct 23, 2017
PDPGuy:
Rohr may have said Akpeyi is his 3rd choice keeper. But what happens to Ezenwa, who has played 270 minutes of WC qualifiers? I think it will be harsh to drop him, absent a drastic loss in form and/or injury.
Well, I don't know but If that be the case, what about Akpeyi who also was on goals for some games?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:16pm On Oct 23, 2017
tbaba1234:
Akpeyi as number 1huh

I am more confortable with Ezenwa
Since the coach listed him and Ikechuckwu Ezenwa as the third and fourth choice goalkeepers respectively. It is normal he takes the first spot when the other two ahead of him are not around.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:13pm On Oct 23, 2017
soetanoreoluwa:
Congratulations! Thank God you are not the coach..
Did you watch the match today?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:12pm On Oct 23, 2017
tbaba1234:
Yes
Meaning he has two assists today.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:07pm On Oct 23, 2017
tbaba1234:
MOTM

Kayode... He needs to score soon though..
How can he score when he surrounded by selfish teammates?

Didn't you see how the guy with the Afro hair choosed to shot twice when he was just suppose to give a simple pass for Kayode to score?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:03pm On Oct 23, 2017
tbaba1234:
From what i have seen, certainly... Good fundamentals, confident and decent reflexes.

Alampasu has not done anything professionally. Akpeyi does not inspire confidence. Ajiboye only edges him in experience.

I think, he can get the rookie GK spot for the WC...
Haba! Take it easy on Alampasu. At least, he done play for Portuguese 3rd tier league na, and sometimes made bench in the 1st tier Portuguese league. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:50pm On Oct 23, 2017
soetanoreoluwa:
You play too much grin

Why did you intend to sacrifice Ezenwa?
Na true talk I dey tell you ooo. grin

If na only Ezenwa and Uzoho dey available for World cup, I go pick Uzoho ahead of him for all our matches. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
Though I didn't see the first half but after I watched the second half there were some things I noticed about our two players.


Uzoho didn't get the first choice slot by gamble, he is obviously good.

I noticed his height is imposing and could intimidate some players. We need this kind of goalkeeper in the National team not all these short and good for nothing we currently have. I know Alampasu is a little bit taller than him but the rest are kukutes.

I noticed he is also good with the ball on his feet and he can pinpoint and connect with a long ball. This is the type Barcelona would love to have.

When he holds the ball, he is confident and he knows how to handle pressure.

His sharp reflexes didn't go unnoticed when he saved deflected shots twice.

I believe by the time he plays regularly this season he will gain more experience and if he plays more than 20 games, Bros, this guy will be my number one choice going to the world Cup except Enyeama comes to the party. grin



On Kayode, he is among selfish players. I don't think he can score except he does solo runs to score because those his teammates will rather balloon the ball to the stand than to give him a pass.


If Kayode was as selfish as they were today, I no think dey can score the second goal.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:27pm On Oct 23, 2017
PDPGuy:
So, can Uzoho displace anyone of Akpeyi, Alampasu or Ajiboye for one of the 3 GK slots?
First of all, the coach said Akpeyi is his 3rd choice, therefore Akpeyi is out of the equation and Ikechuckwu Ezenwa is now in to compete with the rest.


From what my eyes saw this night, if I am the coach I will bring in Uzoho because he is naturally good.


No 1

Vincent Enyeama

No 2

Daniel Akpeyi

No 3

Francis Uzoho

If NFF are dogmatic about Enyeama not going to the world Cup then


My number one is

Daniel Akpeyi


No 2

Francis Uzoho


No 3


Dele Alampasu
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:42pm On Oct 23, 2017
Joebie:
lol i'm still safe and sound.. i'm only saying argue with substance.. watch me when I argue, I dig the most credible source first, because the shorter the aguement the quicker we move on.. you can go on and on, but you still hardly win your arguement.

now back to the subject.. research more.. trust me i've found those links even before you.. so im ahead.. did spurs table a bid? how about west brom?

like i said earlier it's one thing to put a price tag, it's yet another for prospective buyers to see it as a reasonable one.
My point had been made. cool
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:40pm On Oct 23, 2017
Joebie:
Thanks for the submission.. were other clubs interested as well? Remember, we are speaking of lowly Brighton. oya do another assignment.

modified
lol.. owngoal reference
Moving away from value to the pedigree of club that rushed for his signature.

Gent is very greedy. You wan sell 15 million, at the same time, you wan decide how dem go sell. undecided

I hope he moves in January but Moses Simon na obedient player ooo. shocked shocked grin

Sell on clause delays Moses Simon’s Monaco move




High flying French Ligue 1 side Monaco are presently locked in talks with Gent of Belgium over a possible deal in the summer for dashing winger Moses Simon, according to Belgium publication Voetbalkrants.com.

Monaco have resigned to losing some of their top stars after a stellar season in France and Europe, with the team currently leading the Ligue 1 table and also through to the semi-final of the UEFA Champions League.

The club views Simon as a player who can replace some of their stars who are expected to leave in the summer, and suggestions are that the deal is almost near completion as both parties are eager for the move to go through.

Presently what is holding the deal is a compromise on what will be the sell on clause due to Gent, if the 23-year-old leaves Monaco in a few years time, and the duration which the clause will last.


Reports gathered by Owngoalnigeria.com sources have it that Monaco are willing to pay £12m for his services, plus the promise of first team football which will sway him their way ahead of English Premier League side West Brom who are also interested in his services.

Simon wants to represent Nigeria at next summer World Cup in Russia if Nigeria qaualifies and will only accept a move to a team that will assure him of their plans for him as regards playing time.


http://thenationonlineng.net/sell-clause-delays-moses-simons-monaco-move/amp/
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:25pm On Oct 23, 2017
Joebie:
Thanks for the submission.. were other clubs interested as well? Remember, we are speaking of lowly Brighton. oya do another assignment.

modified
lol.. owngoal reference
I knew you will fall into my trap of owngoal bhuhaha and that was why I saved my knock out for the last.

Ps: we are discussing about value and not the pedigree of club. grin

https://www.enisports.com/gent-reject-brightons-third-bid-nigerias-moses-simon/
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
Joebie:
lol.. u sef when dey reference wikipedia as a credible source haha.. oya why Brighton no up their bid?.. oya do ur homework? It's one thing to put a price tag, it's yet another for people to think the price tag matches the player..
Stop beaten around the bush. My point is clear. 8.4 million pounds was initially tabled but Gent rejected the cash. Simple.

I can give you more than 5 credible source to back it. The one I gave you, does it look like Wikipedia?

My friend, they bidded thrice. The last being in the range of 10 million pounds. Bhuuuhahaha! grin

Based on this, Simon Moses is more valuable than Henry Onyekuru. Period. grin

Exclusive – Brighton’s Third Bid For Super Eagles Ace Moses Simon Rejected By Gent

August 18, 2017

Newly promoted English Premier League side Brighton have seen a third bid for Nigerian forward Moses Simon rejected by Belgium side Gent, Owngoalnigeria.com can exclusively reveal.

Brighton have failed with two bids for the Nigeria international but they were confident of landing their man with their last bid of around 10 million pounds, but Gent tuned it down.

Gent are demanding a fee of close to 15 million pounds for the 22 year old who has been at the club for three seasons, and was at a time heavily linked with a move to Tottenham Hotspur.


It is believed the club won’t be making another bid for Simon ‎as they have moved on to other targets but the forward is still on the radar of fellow Premier League side West Brom.


He has just two years left on his contract with the Belgium side, and despite his non committal towards extending his contract at the club, Gent are not willing to lower their asking price from interested clubs.


http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/08/18/exclusive-brightons-third-bid-for-super-eagles-ace-moses-simon-rejected-by-gent/
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:48pm On Oct 23, 2017
Icon4s:
I am not comparing Onyekuru with Simon. Infact, presently I will pick Simon over Onyekuru for various reasons.

My point is Simon himself is not even supposed to be a starting material for the Super Eagles.

Recall Iwobi was injured ahead of the Cameroon clash which was why Simon Started. And going into the Zambia game, Rohr refused to change a winning team, which I also agreed to.

Go back to the games where Victor Moses and Iwobi were present whether Simon started.

To me he is more of a back up in the absence of Iwobi and V. Moses. And he needs to grow his game and be more versatile. He doesn't play like a modern winger.
Yet, Simon has 2 goals and an assist during w/q. How? shocked

Iwobi is an AM, the earlier we realize the better.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
Icon4s:
Simon does not have the capacity to make those touches and moves Iwobi made.

Simon knows only one way to play: puts his head down, takes on any defender that comes his way and pull out a cross hoping that any of the strikers would be in a position to score.

Wings play has gone beyond that. I am sure you watched the great George Finidi play. Tijani Babangida himself had to adjust to how Finidi played just that TJ was more pacey and more direct.

Simon has the pace but he is not even direct.Always playing himself into tight spaces. Ahmed Musa has the pace and he is direct but some times it will seem he left his brains behind while running.

I am a natural winger. I will know a great winger when I see him.

Iwobi's type of winger/AM will really go places.
Simon's kind of winger will only do well at youths level but will fail to progress as he ages. Have you noticed his current stagnation? To me he has not improved since he graduated to the Super Eagles.

Samuel Chukwueze is another kind of Winger that can be devastating. I hope he is well groomed in a good club. He can be totally unplayable on his good day. He runs very well, takes on defenders, direct and has good eyes for goals.
I didn't talk about how they play, I talked about how the coach wanted them to play and his tactics.

Iwobi did no abracadabra in that game because it was premeditated by the coach.

However, I don't see Iwobi as a winger because I have seen him flopped several times in that position in the National team.

He is an AM in my own estimation.

There are sometimes touches will backfire when you meet a park the bus teams. In such case, individual talent is required and good crosser of the ball.

When Chelsea saw all roads were blocked, they resorted to crossing the balls into the box where a good striker made good used of his head. That is why we need an all rounder striker.

Even Arsenal did the same.

So, in a team you have to be dynamic and not static like iroko tree because when the chips are down, you will have no other options. grin

Rohr showed he was dynamic in tactics hence the change of tactics with Iwobi.

Iwobi did no abracadabra.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:09pm On Oct 23, 2017
tbaba1234:
Lol... are you talking of yourself?
Of course you, who else? grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:05pm On Oct 23, 2017
safarigirl:
this coming from the person who claimed S. Moses is worth £20 million
Do I look like Gent's Manager Michael louwagie who said Simon Moses worth 20 million euros? shocked grin

Direct your statement to him not me, please. grin

Gent Manager Tells West Brom & Monaco – Moses Simon Is Worth €20m

May 5, 20170149

‎Super Eagles forward Moses Simon won’t be leaving Gent for anything less than €20m according to the technical director of the team Michel Louwagie.

Simon has been heavily linked with a move away from the Belgian side with West Brom and Monaco particularly interested in the former As Trencin man.

However as reported by this portal French side Monaco ‎opened discussions with Gent over his possible transfer in the summer, but the demands of the Belgian side differs from what they are offering.

Louwagie while responding to rumours about Simon confirmed they have received offers for the forward but none has met the club valuation of their prized asset.

He insist that the forward will be sold for nothing less than 20 million euros. He cited the transfer of Simon’s international teammate and close friend Wilfred Ndi‎di to Leicester City from Genk for £16m as a sign of how wise Belgium clubs have become in transfer dealings.

“Why could they sell in the Netherlands to amounts to over thirty million euros?”

“Where is Memphis Depay now? With PSV sold to Manchester United with a lot of drumstick. Vincent Janssen, AZ’s top scorer, came to Tottenham for lot of money, but he is yet to get enough minutes on the field.”

“In terms of efficiency, is he better than Simon?”

“The trend is reversed: Wilfred Ndidi in December, later some Anderlecht boys”


“Anyone who wants our players will have to pay”, he told Voetballmagazine.

Daniel Martins


https://www.soccerassembly.com/moses-simon-worth-20-million-gent-coach/
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:57pm On Oct 23, 2017
tbaba1234:
Simon did excellent in his first year but he has not built on it.

Onyekeru appears to be building his reputation and will cause more ripples in world football today.

By the way, Onyekuru was nominated for the Ebony award. Top 5.

He was also third in the youth player of the year award.

This guy played for a team that was supposed to be relegated.
So, why are some clubs chasing after Simon Moses?

You didn't get to know because he has yet to force his way out, like Onyekuru did.

We are talking about 2nd best, you are talking about top
5.

We are talking about winning titles, you are talking about relegation struggles.

Ok, Simon was also in top 10 young player of the year.

I maintain, Simon Moses has achieved more than Onyekuru in club level. Kpom! grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:51pm On Oct 23, 2017
tbaba1234:
No, they play the same role

that is what i saw from the games, i saw.
Statistics say no they don't play the same role. grin

I saw him played LM too, can I say that is what i saw from the games I saw?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:38pm On Oct 23, 2017
tbaba1234:
I watched his games last season and he was mostly on the wings. I am not talking about second hand info.

Even if i entertain such.. As a support striker, he was outscored by a left winger
How can I believe one who always gives wrong info?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:37pm On Oct 23, 2017
tbaba1234:
For the Super Eagles, Simon has paid his dues and deserves his position.

At club level, Onyekuru is currently better.
Has Onyekuru helped his club to win the league?

Has Onyekuru won the second best Ebonyi award in Belgium?

Has Onyekuru assisted in a cup final competition to help his club win the Belgium FA cup?

At, club level, with enough facts on ground, Simon Moses has achieved more than Onyekuru in club level. Kpom! grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:31pm On Oct 23, 2017
tbaba1234:
You know, i watch many of these games first hand when i have a free weekend. I am not talking from second hand account.

So Simon played as a second striker and still had less goals and assists than a LWF. Just making your case worse.
I even saw in played on the LM on few occasions.

Now, do you agree they don't play in the same position before I answer your second paragraph? grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:27pm On Oct 23, 2017
tbaba1234:
Yes, the style of play is different. Moses is your traditional winger, Henry prefers to come inside. As such, Simon should get more assists and Henry more chances to score.

Simon is not even giving assists. He has one for the season from an indirect freekick but none from open play.


Henry and Simon play exactly the same role in the team. LWF. Henry's goal return gave him more freedom. Not even they coaches thought he will explode, the way he did last year.

Kayode is an out and out striker, henry isn't. He plays primarily from the wings. Simon had a great goals return in his first year from the wings.

Henry is not a number 9 and i do not think he will thrive there. Kayode is a number 9. Totally different.
TThis was where Simon Moses played last season.

Does this look like a LW position? shocked grin

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
Icon4s:
Reason why Simon is still in the Super Eagles starting 11 is because we don't have so many wingers better than he is at the moment.

If he Doesn't change his style of play he'll end up like the likes of Pius Ikedia and Ahmed Musa.

Simon has a lot to learn in terms of his final passes.
He works so very hard but the product of all those hardwork is just average or less.

You saw how Iwobi changed things upon his introduction against Zambia? That is how a modern winger plays.

You notice Iwobi didn't run much on the wings which gave Shehu acres to make his runs. Iwobi went deep close to the AM position which was where Shehu's cross came to meet him and the rest is history. Ahmed Musa does that too once in a while but Simon is always on the flanks and doesn't really combine well with the number 10 player. His own is to take on defenders one-on and finally play one way-ward cross. You saw how Iwobi combined well with Mikel and even Ighalo. Same thing in the game in Ndola.

Yes Onyekuru is up and coming but as you rightly said I would like to see him develop as a striker.

We are blessed with wingers in this team but we don't have depth in the striking department.

Rohr should draft in Onyekuru among the CF jare.
It was obvious Rohr changed tactics and pattern of play when he brought on Iwobi.

I maintain, Simon Moses followed Rohr instructions, even Shehu Abdullahi followed instructions because he never crossed the half line until Iwobi came in.

They practiced this before the match during training.

Iwobi would have gassed out if he started the game.

There was no abracadabra Iwobi did. It was absolutely the game plan.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:15pm On Oct 23, 2017
joseph1013:
You forget he led them to promotion that year. You think it's easy?
I am not downgrading Onyekuru's achievements but I just wanted to clarify the false notion that Henry Onyekuru has achieved more than Simon Moses.

This is not true.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:10pm On Oct 23, 2017
tbaba1234:
See false equivalency..

Simon and Onyekuru play the same position in the same league.

Onyekuru has play half the games of Simon and has more goals already.
Wrong! They din't play in the same position throughout last season.

Simon Moses played mostly as a second striker last season and only played 6 matches on the left wing. He scored 3 goals and assisted 4 when he played on the LW last season.

While, Henry Onyekuru played mostly as a LW last season. He played 34 matches, scored 18 goals and gave 8 assists.

Get your facts right before you start posting falsely. grin

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