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tbaba1234:
Does that make spurs on par with Madrid? Was it not the same side that lost to Monaco?

You are shifting the goal post. We have seen Everton could not beat a team from Cyprus at home in a competitive game.

To say wolfburg will struggle with a league 1 side is ridiculous because man for man, they have better players. Football is not mathematics but the odds favour Wolfburg


The same Solanke that could not boss it in eredivise, a weaker league will come and boss it in the German league.

I think, your english bias sometimes makes you not appreciate the quality of other leagues.

TheGoodJoe:
Even if you are Collin Udoh or Robbie Savage or Kenny Dalglish, the truth remains. Solanke did not chase Origi. Those backroom people you are talking about where those who convinced Klopp to accept Solanke. Klopp did not even know him. Let alone put him in his plans to pursue Origi.

komekn:
They are not on par AT ALL BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.

Solanke is the current best U20 player in the world and is playing for a top team in a top league with World class attacking players ahead of him. Firminho, Coutinho, Mane, Sturridge, Salah, to name just a few.

Osimhen on the other hand has achieved nothing beyond small boys football in the past near two years. He is struggling to get on the bench at lowly Wolfsburg no joke he will not make it into Liverpool U18.

Finally, who is ahead of Osimhen blocking his pathway to the first team name the world class top performing attacking players please let's make a comparative analysis. To end it all who has relegated Osimhen to warm bench the striker Divock Origi that Solanke had displaced.

If Solanke was in Wolfsburg he would be first choice striker, no shakin.

This matter is concluded Solanke no be Osimhen mate.

Mickael2:
Wolfsburg has won more league titles than Liverpool in the last 10 years. They have been at the UCL quaters meanwhile Liverpool is playing kwatankwa soccer with Spartak Moscow

Joebie:
You are only as good as your last game..nobody is singing Iheanacho's praises anymore. Why the double standard?

Humility017:
considering his conservative approach and fear to lose....he may likely stick wit New names.....
I expect that match to give Aina,awaziem,ezenwa, and lots more others the needed exposure they won't get cheap playing against star stunded Argentina team....

Joebie:
I agree that u20 is a big step ahead of U17. Solanke has a more impressive youth record compared to Osimhen. However, at the moment,
they are both at par, as neither have been able to get on the scoresheet at their respective sides. The club and league your play is irrelevant. When they start performing, we can start making that comparing as regards the quality of the opposition, league etc.

goldfish80:
Better how? At 20 Traore could boast of an AFCON bronze medal. Lol

goldfish80:
You're swinging up and down like a yoyo. I can barely make out what you're saying.

Come out straight and say Solanke is better than Traore. Hit the nail on the head!
Enough of these foreplays and intrigues.

TheGoodJoe:
Do not get too excited because Klopp said he did not know Solanke. Let us see his verdict before spreading gist like pursuing Origi.

TheGoodJoe:
Liverpool and Manchester City are two different categories. Nacho being on the bench at City is far more than Solanke being a bencher at Liverpool.

TheGoodJoe:
Iheanacho is not poor and the consideration has to do with Iheanacho working under a top manager. It I not easy for a top manager to have faith in a young player.

Pellegrini's track record of working with the likes of Sorin, Riquelme, Guiseppe Rossi, Diego Forlan, Santiago Carzola, Isco, Roque Santa Cruz and a host of others makes him a good candidate to finalize Nacho's development.

There are few coaches with such history you can trust. It is not about poor but continous development.

I am also thinking MLS, NYFC. So Nacho can work with Patrick Vieira who started a good job with Iheanacho at City where he tried Moulding Iheanacho to play like Henry. Vieira has done a fantastic job with Jack Harrison with the young man playing along side Lampard, Pirlo and David Villa.

The formative years is not for glory but development.

TheGoodJoe:
[quote author=TheGoodJoe post=41588483]This is Nacho's first year as a professional footballer. I believe Nacho getting games with Man City makes him a more rated player than Solanke.

I do not rate regular time over working with the top players and coaches. Nacho also gets to play with these players. The time for game time will come. For now, he is to learn.

TheGoodJoe:
Explain how it is recycled.

TheGoodJoe:
Despite scoring 72 goals in 187 appearances for City, the Bosnian forward has been told he can leave the Etihad Stadium after falling out of favour under Pellegrini, who is ready to operate with Raheem Sterling and Nigerian teenager Kelechi Iheanacho as cover for Sergio Aguero and Wilfried Bony this season.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/11783484/Manchester-City-news-Edin-Dzeko-granted-14m-move-to-Roma.html

I hope you can read the bolded.

TheGoodJoe:
Another recycled news. As I said, with or without the arrival of Solanke, Origi would have gone on loan. Solanke's position down the pecking order of selection proves this.

TheGoodJoe:
Just imagine statement. So because Maribor is playing Europa League with Arsenal, they are in the same level.

Your understanding of football frightens me.

TheGoodJoe:
Recycled news. Nothing different from the first one you posted.

TheGoodJoe:

"Liverpool have indicated they may be prepared to let him leave before the transfer window shuts on Thursday night if they can complete the other business they are looking to do."

Best part of the article. I hope there's something to it.

I said earlier on today we're a bit overloaded with strikers, I think we could afford to lose Origi (or Sturridge or Ings for that matter). Shame really that it hasn't worked out for him, might have been different if Funes Mori wasn't such a massive c*nt.

Replacing Origi with a wide player gives the squad a better balance, hopefully that's Klopp's plan if this goes through.

This is an excerpt from a Liverpool forum before Origi left. You can see Solanke was not in the picture before departure of Origi.

When people say that Solanke chased Origi, it is clear they do not know what Origi brought to Liverpool. He was very comfortable on the wings. Just like Firmino. Something Solanke will need to learn to fit into Klopp's plans. Origi also brought pace and endless running. Something Solanke is yet to bring.

The replacement for Origi in Liverpool is Chamberlain as I pointed out earlier. From the excerpt, you can see that Liverpool were not ready to let Origi go until they secured Chamberlain. Not because of Solanke.

Softly with the hype.

Tomorrow, someone will write Solanke chased Origi from Liverpool.

TheGoodJoe:
What are you talking? As if we did not read this article when it came out and is this not the same hype you guys were shouting upandan.

Origi started games for Klopp. Origi was someone who got the nod when Klopp replaced Firmino and Mane.

Until now Solanke is yet to come close to that status at Liverpool and you want people to believe that displacement talk.

With or without Solanke's arrival, Origi would have still left Liverpool. That is not displacing.

Joebie:
I agree that u20 is a big step ahead of U17. Solanke has a more impressive youth record compared to Osimhen. However, at the moment,
they are both at par, as neither have been able to get on the scoresheet at their respective sides. The club and league your play is irrelevant. When they start performing, we can start making that comparing as regards the quality of the opposition, league etc.

goldfish80:
Osimhen and Solanke are not so much dissimilar. You make it sound like there is a gulf in class between those 2.

Solanke is Liverpool's 3rd choice striker while Osimhen is Wolfsburg's 3rd choice. They both have zero goals to their names this seaon, must be said Solanke have more minutes..

You seem to forget that Arsenal wanted Osimhen. Infact, he snapped a picture with Arsene Wenger in London during his visit to the Emirates for contract negotiations. Some rogue agents hijacked the deal and took him to Germany while Arsenal made due with Nwakali.
Why you will say Osimhen can't make any youth team in England is baffling to say the least.

I hate to say this, but the gospel truth is that the last U20 world cup was watered down in quality. Can you compare the standard witnessed in Korea to Nigeria 99,Holland 2005,2007 or even 2009 which Ghana won. Teams like Argentina weren't even in Korea.
If the level of competition was as high as what we were used to, Solanke wouldn't have come close to become Mvp neither would England have won the cup.

Yes Solanke did very well for Chelsea's youth team but you don't know how good Osimhen was for his youth team in Nigeria. He could have scored 100 goals in state competitions in Benin.

Again, I say their records are very much identical.

komekn:
Unfortunately Wolfsburg is a mere shadow of it former self. Narrowly missed relegation last season and they are from being a top team anymore.

Things have changed and changed for the worse for Wolfsburg. They are already this early in the season staring relegation in the face.

My assessment of Wolfsburg is that they would struggle against Wigan Athletic who are now in the English league 1.

goldfish80:
You're just running around quoting random facts which hardly add up.
First you said Traore is older than Solanke and they never played in the same category, then you make a reverse to claim Solanke achieved more in the age group he played with Traore. Come on! You have to be consistent.

Like it or not, believe it or not. Solanke doesn't hold a candle light to Traore. Solanke is an exaggerated youth team player while his mate at the Chelsea academy is a full Pro.

TheGoodJoe:
Seriously, you need to learn how to argue coherently. I am telling you that the Solanke noise is hype. After all the preseason noise of how special Solanke is, he is back to the bench.

There is no way Origi was in Liverpool today that he would have not contributed more. Liverpool has more faith in Chamberlain bailing them out before Solanke when we consider the forward role.

The hype mill should allow the young man work hard than fill his head with fake opinions. Origi is a better player. Unless you have not watched Origi. I have watched Solanke play for Liverpool this season and he does not add as much bite as Origi.

Saying Solanke came from bench and had some good performances in the preseason does not make him a better player than Origi.

Bringing back the article that I agreed with in the same place highlights the incoherence in your debates.

TheGoodJoe:
Incoherent again.

Danny Ings is enough to know that is a joke quote. Even during the preseason, it was clear Origi was ahead of Solanke in pecking order.