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Mujtahida:
Four different squads you didn't see Uduokhai there yet you say he can EASILY make the team. How na?

It's a matter of time.

Joebie:
I assumed that MOST coaches won't. KC is not defensive minded. But Joel is offensive minded.. you get the drift?
It depends on how the coach want to play and also on the team-mates strengths as well. Why is Musa Yahaya now being played as a Right Back?

Player positions is not as rigid as you think.

Was Vicmo defensive minded before he was converted to his new role?

TheGoodJoe:
Tell me Azeez pace is close to the likes of Ambrose and Onazi? He is not. I think Azeez featured in the World Cup before that game and he was not stellar. Are you comparing Omeruo to the quality of Ramos and Pepe?

Omeruo would have found it difficult adjusting to an unfamiliar role in such an intense, physical game.

Even Rueben adjusted later in the game and won some balls. It was the intensity and physicality that would have troubled Azeez. They would have Slaughtered him on the pitch. Going with a big guy under such pressure was the best option.

The French were still the better quality team.

Keshi played Azeez out of position.

elyte89:
Did u just say one of d best in Europe?...... I lafg in Swahili

Is Ndidi not one of our best in Europe?

TheGoodJoe:
Which full story? You are off point and calling it full story. The Spaniards play a possessive side which help their less physical players deal with hard, physical pressure. We do not play that way, so Azeez would have not been able to cope.

It is so simple. Comprede?

I hear you but I no gree.

TheGoodJoe:
You can say push Omeruo who has more physique but that would be playing him in an unfamiliar role. Azeez would have been the goof. He was going to be light, not fast enough in a game of such intensity. With the hard tackles coming in, he would have been a goner.

You are yet to say why Azeez would have been a success. Except that he did not come in. It was too fierce for him.

Who is faster between Onazi and Azeez?

Who is faster between Azeez and Gabriel?

komekn:
Like I said I'm going to see him and Hope play in 2 weeks and give my final live view on him.

But when it comes the objective quantifiable attribute such as speed, power ( undiluted pounded yam) aerial ability and presence. Dominic towers well above him.

On what basis do you rate him more Defender defend your position.

In regards to the @bolded, please read and take note of the @bolded, then tell me if he lacks any of these attributes you just listed.


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Sporting's defender Tiago Ilori during the Portuguese league football match SL Benfica vs Sporting CP at Luz Stadium in Lisbon on April 21, 2013


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/18/13/2B76EE5D00000578-3202038-image-a-46_1439900662262.jpg

Chai! Tiago Ilori playing against one the bests strikers in the world. They won that match by 3-2.

[quote]TIAGO ILORI PROGRESSING NICELY ON LOAN AT BORDEAUX


Tiago Ilori Progressing Nicely on loan at Bordeaux
Liverpool’s highly rated central defender, Tiago Ilori, is now beginning to blossom at Bordeaux after a tough start to life on loan in Ligue 1.

A hamstring injury back in October against Reims, that consequently saw him miss around two months, curtailed what had been a decent start to his loan spell.


Ilori Progress

Since his return from injury, however, the Portuguese’s performances have been rather encouraging, as he continues to justify why Liverpool were so keen to acquire him, and paid £7 million to do so .

While he’s been partnered with multiple central defenders for a variety of reasons since coming back, including fellow Liverpool target Lamine Sane, Nicolas Pallois and Cedric Yambere, it’s been important to note Ilori has been a constant. His form has been solid too, something that’s obviously been greatly helped by the fact that he’s remained fit.

Obtaining playing continuity is vital for any footballer’s development, and in Ilori’s case, it’s fantastic to see him reaping the benefits of getting vital top flight minutes.

Playing against the likes of PSG, Saint Etienne, Guingamp and Toulouse this season will act as a terrific stepping stone for him in his quest to be a mainstay for Liverpool in the future.

Lining up in his now-customary position on the right side of central defence against Lens on the weekend, the 22-year-old produced another very positive display.

Up against Lens’ physically imposing forward Adamo Coulibaly, who really is a brute of a man, Illori stuck to his role nicely, successfully limiting his impact .

On many occasions, the former Sporting prodigy beat Coulibaly in the air and even held up well in battles of strength, but the area in which Ilori absolutely dominated related to sheer pace.

He made certain that Lens had little joy playing balls in behind Bordeaux’s defence. Despite their relatively high line, the unbelievable covering speed and anticipation of the youngster almost completely nullified this avenue of attack for the away side.

Even on the odd occasion where a ball went over his defensive partner Yambere, by using his speed, Ilori would ofen motor across and kill the move. On 40 minutes a perfect example of this arose. Here, after Pablo Chavarria had broken through in behind Yambare, i[b]t looked as though the Argentine was clean in. It wasn’t to be. Thankfully for Bordeaux, Ilori charged across the field to execute a precise sliding tackle to knock the ball out for a throw in and save his team.[/b]

[It was a magnificent piece of action, and one that illustrated just how good he is physically He can leap, he’s fast and even quite strong despite his slender frame, and when combined with the fact he’s 190cm tall and only 22 years of age, he undoubtedly ticks almost all the boxes required in a modern day centre back.

Intriguingly, and on a side note, he unsurprisingly still holds the record for the fastest 30-metre sprint at Sporting.

The youngster, also, showcased his ability to take up excellent positions and make good decisions – with and without the ball.


Hardly ever caught out in this contest was Illori, for he positioned himself intelligently enough to cope with any situation. He stayed goalside when tracking markers and didn’t step up and lunge into tackles overzealously. The maturity he showed when addressing the problems ahead of him, and in dealing with them in a calm and composed manner, was a real highlight.

Seeing as Lens often looked to move the ball down the flanks and whip crosses in for Coulibaly, it was impressive to note just how well Ilori dealt with these situations. As mentioned above, his concentration and awareness to remain goal side and keep track of his man was wonderful. This, in turn, meant that the languid figure was so often perfectly situated to clear and cut out crosses. The whopping 11 successful clearances he made depicted his effectiveness aptly here.

Whenever Bordeaux look to facilitate their attacks, their fullbacks Diego Contento and Mariano always have a key role in providing width for Les Girondins. So with this prerequisite in place, the covering work Ilori undertook was crucial in allowing his right fullback, the marauding Mariano, to motor upfield freely. It also gave the Brazilian peace of mind knowing that Ilori would cover his man, Lens left-winger Baptiste Guillaume, if a turnover occurred.

On the ball, the elegant stopper exhibited that fine passing range he possesses. While he often opted to play simple passes into Bordeaux’s deep-lying midfielder Gregory Sertic, his accurate long balls, horizontal and vertical, illustrated delightfully his quality in possession. This facet of his game should mean that Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers has little hesitation when integrating him in next season – if he chooses to use him.

“The technical quality of Tiago hit us,” mused Bordeaux manager Sagnol on this.

Statistically, his numbers are rather impressive for Bordeaux too, and consist of him averaging 2.2 tackles per game, 2.7 interceptions pg and a colossal 6.1 clearances per game.

The former Granada man recently commented on his desire to return to England and to have an impact. “My long term plan is to play and win titles for Liverpool Football Club. The team they are building can be huge, and I want to be a part of that.”

All things considered, this wildly talented Liverpool loanee really does look to have a bright future ahead of him. The idea of a future central defensive pairing of Mamadou Sakho and Ilori is something that’s gaining traction, and could well become a reality sooner rather than later. We’ll just have to wait and see what Rodgers’ plans are for this very gifted defender.

http://anfieldindex.com/13716/tiago-ilori-progressing-nicely-loan-bordeaux.html


These are why I rate him highly than Dominic Iorfa Jnr. I have seen both played but this is just to put the nail in the coffin.

komekn:
You see Onazi has tenacity, a rugged determination garnished with skill good pace, vision and is very strong. He may have grown up on akpoo.

With those attributes I can see him surviving the championship standing out and making it to the EPL.

I have only seen Ajagun playing pretty football not getting down and dirty, that's why I rate Onazi more.

But the final matter HEIGHT have you seen many short midfielders in the championship From my recollection of Ajagun the guy short can not win any aerial battle.

I rest my case, present your own.

I could add on 2009 as a teenager hr looked old he looks older can those legs carry him with intense physio stamina required. This last paragraph is my biased unproven view.

Hahahahahah!

Ajagun is also as rugged as Onazi. He is more skillful and pacy than Onazi.

Though short but he jumps like an antelope.

He will fare very well in the Championship.

Danielnino00:
What's with forgiveness and Tiago Ilori??
As far as I can tell,the last time there was any link between Nigeria and Ilori was after he signed for Liverpool. The boy was never interested in playing for us.. England and Portugal were his choice.. Now that he has depreciated and struggling in the championship, you want us to call him up??



Na so our national team bad reach

For clarification sake that Tiago Ilori has not depreciated, enjoy this article. He refused to leave England for Germany, Spain and Greece, the same way Kelechi Iheanacho refused to leave England for PSG in France and a German club.

In short, he went to one of the prospect for promotion into the EPL but unfortunately they lost in the play off promotion finals. .


FRANKFURT AND FREIBURG LOOK TO SIGN TIAGO ILORI

TIAGO ILORI

TIM LUMB @TimLumb

Eintracht Frankfurt and SC Freiburg are one of the few teams looking at signing Liverpool player Tiago Ilori this summer, according to the Liverpool Echo.

The report names Frankfurt and Freiburg alongside Greek side Olympiakos and Spanish side Granada. Liverpool are thought to want to see him move away permanently, and they would like £3 million for him.

The 23-year-old centre-back signed for Liverpool in 2013 from Sporting CP. He hasn’t played a Premier League game for the side, although he made three appearances in cup competitions last season.

Gualter Fatia/Getty Images Sport

Most of the time he was sent on loan by Liverpool. He spent a period of time at Granada, who are one of the interested parties. He’s also spent a period in the Ligue 1 with Bordeaux, as well as time with Aston Villa.

The report states that Olympiakos would like to bring the 23-year-old in on loan, which may be against what Liverpool want to do. Freiburg has recently been promoted back to the Bundesliga, while Frankfurt were in a relegation battle last season.

Liverpool have offloaded multiple players already this summer. Joe Allen, Jordan Ibe and Christian Benteke have all left Anfield for more than £10 million each.


http://readbundesliga.com/2016/08/23/frankfurt-and-freiburg-look-to-sign-tiago-ilori/

Danielnino00:
What's with forgiveness and Tiago Ilori??
As far as I can tell,the last time there was any link between Nigeria and Ilori was after he signed for Liverpool. The boy was never interested in playing for us.. England and Portugal were his choice.. Now that he has depreciated and struggling in the championship, you want us to call him up??



Na so our national team bad reach

Are Tammy Abraham, Felix Uduokhai and Torunarigha Ojokolo interested in playing for the Super Eagles?


Tiago Ilori wanted to prove himself in England else he would have gone to Spain or France this season.

However, he was part of the team that just lost out in the play off promotion final. He could have made it this season to the EPL.

Joebie:
Bro coaches don't check the history of a players playing position before they deploy them. They simply test them during training and study their qualities.

Coaches decide based on their playing philosophy. Mourinho at Real Madrid for example wanted forwards that can all switch between CF and the wings at any time during the match. If you are a CF for example and you can't play the wings, u won't suit his style.

Oga coaches look for different things.

In Ajax, Louis Van Gaal desired midfielders that can both attack and defend. That's another philosophy based on the style he wanted to play.

Most coaches will not deploy kC as a LB because he can't defend nada.

VicMo for your info can defend which is why Conte tried him there. And he does that for Chelsea. He is a wing back. He can play from defense to attack on both wings.

Why will coaches not deploy him at LB and how would they know if he wasn't tried in training?

If you answer rightly then you will arrive at my submission that he Joel Obi must be tested in training or friendlies before he is thrown into the game as an AMF.

Mickael2:
everybody(well except theGoodJoe) knows that Mikel and Keshi goofed big time, that was the wrong move any day of the week. In fact it would have been better if we subbed in another CB and pushed Omeruo to the DMF position because he can hassle and has the physicality to cope instead of throwing in the tall snail, this is not even a debate

Hahahahahah! I rest my case.

Joebie:
Has he even played this season?

Has this season ended?

Mujtahida:
This is no longer depth Ooooo. This is pure cheating!!! Check out Germany. Torunarigha, Akpoguma, Uduokhai better give themselves brain.

Germany. I think Uduokhai can easily make the team because he's highly rated.

EEGA:
we have a lot of wingers in the team presently, including Onyekuru.

We only need back-ups to our CB's and Echiejile's replacement.

Onyekuru is not currently part of the team.

He is not different from Olayinka, Dessers, Ademola, Okonkwo etc.

By January we will know who is better.

Kog45:
Pls is Tiago ready to play for Nigeria

Of course, he is eligible and he will be willing if you approach him.

Mujtahida:
I know you won't let it rest but sorry Thiago Ilori will not play for Nigeria. He and Nigeria football are as far as heaven and earth.

How do you know?

Is it because he doesn't want to play or he's not good enough?

Humility017:
England Youth International Defender Eager To Hear From Super Eagles Coach Rohr



England youth international defender Dominic Iorfa is eager to represent Nigeria if called up by coach Gernot Rohr ahead of their preparations for the World Cup 2018 in Russia.
Iorfa who is on loan to English Championship side Ipswich Town from fellow Championship team Wolverhampton Wanderers has represented England at various youth levels.
Two years ago he trained with the senior team of England as back up after the team were hit with several withdrawals while in camp for a friendly game.
However the defender who snubbed overtures from Nigeria as his father Dominic Iorfa Snr insist on his son reaching the age of 22 before deciding his future, has now declared for Nigeria.
” He is at the age now , where a decision on his international future has to be made, and like his father said few months ago, he is ready to play for Nigeria, but he is yet to be called up”, a family source told Owngoalnigeria.com.
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elyte89:
Till dey given d test to proof their worth b4 we can conclude,club game pressure is totally different from a national team pressure
Main reason I dont get carried away here by most names our unofficial scout here mentions.


B4 Agu was invited, we knew aw most of our unofficial scout mentioned his name to d sky level, yearning for his invitation. Now he has been giving d chance by Rohr,we all knw d outcome.those who yearn for his call, has reversed dier stance saying he's not a "super eagles material yet"
So in a nutshell, wait till Rohr gives both Bonaventure and onyekuru d playing time in d national team b4 u can conclude dt dey re hotter Dan kelechi and ighalo.

Ndidi was poo when he first made his debut for the Super Eagles. To make issue worse, he was a bench warmer who never tasted professional football.

Here you are, he is one of our best in Europe and the national team.

Give em another chance against Algeria then let us conclude.

Humility017:
watch how forgiveness refute this wit facts and figures....
everyone knows that this guy....will never play for the SE.
I wonder why my brother keep bringing up his name here...

How do you know he will not play for the SE if approached?

Are you his brother?

TheGoodJoe:
Onazi injured in motion. So why use something unrelated as a point.

Because that is the full story.

komekn:
Absolutely 100%.

However, he came to Liverpool and couldn't cope with the speed, intensity and the physicality.

Yes I did see him when he first came, to us it was obvious he was light weight. He was promptly sent to the gym to beef up.

He was use to playing pretty tip tap football in the Portuguese league. He couldn't cope and never played one game for Liverpool in the premiership after near 4 years. That in my book is sadly a failed project and an indication of very limited ability. Or alternatively you could say good for the Portuguese league but woeful for the EPL.

The EPL is not for everyone it's the most competitive, physically intensive and fastest league in the World. Not everyone can cut it, unfortunately Ilori is one of those that couldn't cut it.

Not only good for Portuguese league because he was also good for LA Liga and Ligue 1.

If you flopped in team in EPL doesn't mean you can't excel in another team in EPL.

Lukaku fumbled at Chelsea with all the game time but today we are singing a different note.

Tiago Ilori is better than Dominic Iorfa Jnr in my own opinion.

komekn:
Aluko played that role several times for Hull Tigers Fc so I wouldn't pigeon hole him. He is much more versatile than you may think.

Aluko played the SS role and not the AMF. I want to see him play there first.

TheGoodJoe:
Spain is more of a teamwork. Who in our team apart from Mikel Obi would have been coordinated to play Tip tap game. We were playing with pace and under lots of pressure in that match. Azeez coming in woukd adjust to the team. Not the team adjusting to him. He would have had to play a more defensive role, taking away his control game.

In such frenzy, he would have been an easy target. From your above statement, you can see Azeez was not a good fit.

Why was Onazi a pain in the neck for the French?
Why was he wanted out?

Was it his attacking and running attributes or his tackling and dirty work attributes?

Don't mix the two?

If it was the former, Onazi was never a threat because the French had marked out our major threat in Ahmed Musa.

The later was the reason he was kicked out and as soon as he left, the French had a free ride onward.

So, my point is, Azeez would have offered both perfectly. Go and check his tackling statistics in the la Liga.

We needed someone who could control the game, give passes and at the same time tackle wella.

TheGoodJoe:
You are funny. Instead of you to say explain.

The Spanish style of play relies more on movement off the ball more than movement on the ball. You will hardly find Iniesta or Silva running with the ball to go past players. They do soft tricks if they hold the ball but most times pass it.

In such instance, a physical side will be cautious of tackling because a harsh tackle can lead to a send off.

So the will use the same players. Even a player like Xavi but the style of play will make fouling Xavi difficult, let alone with such malicious intent as Matuidi.

If their style of play will make fouling Xavi difficult then Azeez should have been the perfect answer because he's used to that style. Then our game will flow with Azeez's soft tricks and sleek passes than one dongorayo with no football brain than gragra and kwatankwa style of play.

Don't you think so?

oloriooko:
Henry Onyekuru just scored for Anderlecht 0-2

This is what I am talking about. Performance like this will put pressure on some players who are redundant in their various clubs.

Now that Rohr has set it straight that he wants players performing regularly in his team, nobody go tell them make dem buckle up.

The pressure to do well this season has just began.

Onyekuru, you are doing well, you deserve to go to the world Cup if you maintain your form till March.

TheGoodJoe:
Incoherent again.

Who will Spain use to execute their game against the physical France?

TheGoodJoe:
You can not compare the system the Spaniards play to that of Nigeria. Our team plays in a more disjointed way. We also play with pace, so you can make a harsh tackle and get away with it. The Spaniards are highly positional. That is why even the lightest touch can earn them a free kick.

Onazi and Ambrose were not the first injured in that game. These are two physically strong players.

If Spain and France met then, who will play for them apart from the ones we know are playing in the la Liga?

Joebie:
Waiting for Kayode to light up the La Liga the way he did.

With the way they are playing him with 10 minutes to the end of the match, don't expect anything from Kayode. Except he performs wonders.

Mickael2:
I honestly thought you were trying to be serious

Answer question with facts. Thanks

TheGoodJoe:
While watching the France VS Nigeria match, when Azeez was to come in to replace Onazi, I exclaimed. "They will kill him."

Luckily, Mikel Obi yelled to Keshi waving his hands that he should not bring in Azeez. I guess Mikel Obi envisioned what I thought. Deschamps set his boys to go for blood. Ambrose and Onazi were at the receiving end. That game was not one for Azeez.

Because you don't know much about Azeez. "they will kill him' for wetin?

Is it based on the size or the ability?

As soon as I saw Gabriel coming in instead of Azeez, I just turned my TV off, stood up and walked out though I later came back to see how France go take yeye us.

With the lucky, wetin una chop for France hand?

So, Xavi can't play that kin game ba?

Bros, Azeez would have done wonders with his body movement and touches than the gragra Gabriel. Mikel Obi go dey regret.

Mickael2:
Quick question, who is the wingback for Chelsea then? Or that 3-4-3 is just on paper? Then who is the RB?

Is there wing backs in the 3-4-3 formation?