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Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness:
Kenyanstar:
KISUMU
1. 3 public universities
2. 1 ICD- Inland container Depot(100,000) capacity
3. 1 public referral Hospital( Cancer screening center, 3,500 bed capacity)
4. 1 international airport
5. 1 inland port
IBADAN
1, 2 Public University (The University of Ibadan and National Open University)
3 Private Universities (Lead City University, Dominican University and Citigate University)
5 Public Polytechnics (The Polytechnic Ibadan, Federal college of Animal health and Production Technology, Federal College of Forestry, Highland College of Technology and Federal School of Statistics)
2 Private Polytechnics (Tower Polytechnic and Ibadan City Polytechnic)
2 Private College of Education among others not listed.

2, 1 ICD - Inland container Depot, container capacity 50,000 (TEUS). A railway system already in place.

3, 3 public hospitals (Cancer and general medicine) and more than 30 very good private hospitals. Show me the link to the 3,500 bed capacity, please.

4, 1 airport

5, 1 inland port

Is there anything else?

As you can see, Ibadan has more infrastructures than Kisumu. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 9:59am On May 13, 2017
mtis:
Are you sure ya not a girl coz all along i thought you are .There is calmness in you which is lacking in most of your brethren...Anyway i think you can fit well in Kenya in case ya country continue going the banana way. karibu kenya
I am he, confirm. grin

Yes, there's another spirit in me hence the calmness. grin

Well, I can't decide my destination but if I am posted there, why not? grin

It will afford me the opportunity to come closer to my favorites. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 8:47am On May 13, 2017
Jay254:
Below are the first two pics of Ibadan and Kisumu respectively when you Google them online.. withought filtering.
Somebody posted the pictures and it doesn't determine what is on ground in Ibadan. grin

I have lived there, so I know what I am talking about. grin

The pictures of what you are seeing there are pictures of the old city built around 15 century or thereabouts.

Places like Beere, Oje etc.

There are many other areas that are better planned with basic infrastructures. The CBD is the first of its kind in Sub Sahara Africa. We have bodija, Jericho, Iyaganku etc.

These areas alone will swallow Kisumu best development and will still remains best porch areas. Ibadan real Estate is number 4 in Nigeria after Lagos, Abuja and Port Harcourt.

The industries in Ibadan alone is more than what you can imagine.

Bring it on and show me the amenities on ground in Kisumu and I will overwhelm you with the infrastructures on ground in Ibadan.

Kenya government knows the importance of taking good pictures as a tourist destination country hence the well taken pictures of beautiful places in Kenya but our government doesn’t know what effect pictures will only bring to the table.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:46am On May 13, 2017
TayserMahiri:
Beautiful homes, personally I would never want to live that close to the Ocean. Just in case Tsunami strikes.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:43am On May 13, 2017
Jay254:
We call them Holiday Homes

Sultans palace Mombasa
It seems Kenyanstar has posted all these before hence my response. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:40am On May 13, 2017
TayserMahiri:
Oh man!!! You never was as combative as other naija dudes so I kindoff assumed you were a lady. In fact, when Jay referred you as he I wanted to correct him cheesy grin grin

Plus your name is a bit confusing
Hahahahahah! Because I don't believe this forum affords me protection. There is nothing hidden under the sun. Less I soil my reputation hence the precautions to engage in rumble rumble. grin grin

My name is my real life identify. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:28am On May 13, 2017
Jay254:
For your information properties along the Kenyan Coast have big market not only from within Kenya, but also from thousands of retirees from around the world who make Kenya their retirement home.

Diani Kenya is full of Germans while Kilifi,Watamu and malindi is full of Italians..
The reason could be the presence of mother nature in Kenya. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:18am On May 13, 2017
Nowenuse:
I taya for the vaxx o!
Abuja municipal has about 2 million people.

Besides, the FCTA are now seriously working on integrating the low income abuja satelite towns to Abuja municipal by serious infrastructural upgrade.
That's cool. So, what are works on ground?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:13am On May 13, 2017
Nowenuse:
Seriously, Lagos is developing faster than Africa.

I am scared that very soon, Lagos state would be worth half of Nigeria or West Africa. We must not let that happen. This is why other Nigerian states must wake up!

States like Rivers, Anambra, Kano, Oyo are very promising financially though.
I wonder why Ogun state is not maximizing it's proximity to Lagos state for mind blowing development.
@bolded state past and present are/were shortsighted.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:10am On May 13, 2017
Hbuyosh:
The problem with u Nigerians is that u detrmine cities in terms of size rather than the quality of of the infrastructure or amenities. That is why we see u lots making such shallow arguments about a place like Kaduna or Ibadan being better than the smaller Kenyan cities cos.......of all the reasons, they boast of populations of upwards of a 1mln! That is quite bewildering.

Kenya does not have that many cities with the populations of over a million clike Nigeria cos 1. It has a much slimmer population and 2. Typical of any developing country, most Kenyans dwell inthe rural arras. The percentage of the population living in the urban arras is roughly equivalent to that of Nigeria. 35% of Kenyans are urban dwellers whilst it's around 40% in Nigeria.

Eldoret is more than just athletes, it is a major tourist, agricultural, industrial and communication centrPop. around 500,000. Take a glance of the town below.
Quality of amenities, and you think Ibadan or other Nigeria's cities don't have quality amenities!? grin

List the quality amenities Kisumu or Eldoret have that Ibadan doesn't have. Is there any? grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:29pm On May 12, 2017
WIZGUY69:
Dude... We've one serene and beautiful city in Nigeria "Enugu"...
Bring another of Kenya city apart from Nairobi & Mombasa.. let's put them side by side..

CC : Forgiveness cool


NB: Enugu is among top 100 world most resilient cities shocked
Hahahahahah! I don't accept defeat until I am convinced. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:11pm On May 12, 2017
TayserMahiri:
Immediately I saw Forgiveness trying hard to share PH estate photos I knew she had no Idea what she was trying to compete with.
Hahahahahah! grin Besides, I am he. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:00pm On May 12, 2017
Jay254:
Mombasa
Some of these properties are resort e.g Sultan grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:56pm On May 12, 2017
Jay254:
Properties in Mombasa
Impressive! grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness:
Jay254:
Nairobi and Mombasa has one of the best value of properties in the world..

Kenya Property Values Among The Best In The World - African Business Magazine


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://africanbusinessmagazine.com/features/real-estate/kenya-property-values-among-the-best-in-the-world.&ved=0ahUKEwizl9iz_OrTAhVoC8AKHWg7DJIQFggbMAA&usg=AFQjCNG_QGLFdNNVLKk0qk7g5oUQuXMVNg&sig2=z3ZwI8_HDfpdQ8FcCQgITw

nairobi and mombasa gets international recognition for their booming property ...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://fairfieldpark.co.ke/2016/10/05/nairobi-and-mombasa-gets-international-recognition-for-their-booming-property-perfomance/&ved=0ahUKEwizl9iz_OrTAhVoC8AKHWg7DJIQFggwMAQ&usg=AFQjCNEunVAPKvxtXMxEyoVn-vICk_Sn_w&sig2=ObBbNRrJNkQH0IM6Tz26YA

PH does not play in the same league as Mombasa
grin the article was written in 2012. Outdated! grin

Citi private Bank placed Mombasa on the international scene because they invested in Mombasa estate hence the need to promote Mombasa for their own interest, nothing more. Purely business, you know and nothing more. That is what the article is all about. grin

Kudos to Nairobi but the same Knight frank excluded Joburg and some bigger cities. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 9:11pm On May 12, 2017
GERALD710:
Dude
1.Port Harcourt basically....Stinks. The place smells of fish and crude everywhere.Please do not say it is because of the oil industry.Mombasa has a refinery and imports pertoleum products for the entire region and does not smell like that.
2.Can you show even a single beach on Port Harcourt.And I mean a beach, not a sand collection site like virtually all beaches in West Africa, save for Senegal ,look like. Because they are all composed of rough yellow sand, the one used in construction.
Ours are made of sugar white soft powdery coral sand
The place is all mangrove(which we have in Mombasa, in creeks, not at the beach.And the beaches are littered everywhere!!

3.Port Harcourt has better transport facilities than Mombasa.That I very much agree!!Mombasa does not have a mono rail.However, the road system is currently being upgraded and so is the commuter rail system.
But on an estate level, Port Harcourt is a big FAIL.Most estates are covered with dirt roads.Mombasa as of 2015, is more than 70% carbopaved
4. Port Harcourt has better health amenities than Mombasa
Lawd!!!In Nigeria, not even Lagos measures up to Mombasa in terms of health facilities, leave alone Nairobi.Nigeria's health sector both public and private is CRAAAAAAAAP!!!
5.Port Harcourt has better city and more highrise than Mombasa. The last two pages showed 25 highrise already top up with others already on ground. Pls, take note that highrise is defined as structure with 12 and about floors.
No it does not.Who told you Mombasa's high rises are concentrated in the CBD alonehuh
Port Harcourt has better vibrant Estates than Mombasa.}
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!Woooooi!!I actually come from Mombasa, we live side by side Arabs,Swahilis,Coastal Africans,Asians and more recently, Europeans like the Brits ,Italians and Germans.
Port Harcourt is dominated by one community, the Ijaw followed by Ibos, all dark skinned fellows, making the place look boring and very very very very very very very!!! Poor English!!!
Port Harcourt has better Sport amenities than Mombasa .
Yes it does.Our staduim construction has been delayed for several years now.
Port Harcourt has more refineries than Mombasa
You mean refineries that have not been working since the 1970shuhDude, who are you trying to foolhuh We all know Nigeria has been importing fuel despite it being a crude oil producer.The entire Africa knows!!!
We had a functioning refinery until 2013 and according to the BBC, West African fuel is 'Dirty fuel' imported from Europe.The fuel in East Africa is actually the cleanest on the continent!! We actually made several reformes in 2005 where we banned dirty fuel.Meanwhile even plastic bottles in Nigeria are not safe!!http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37373414
As for Industries in Mombasa.Mombasa is the second most industrialised city in Kenya and the third in East Africa. A simple google search gives you 3000 resultshttps://www.google.com/search?q=Mombasa+Industries&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b#q=Mombasa+Industries&rflfq=1&rlha=0&rllag=-4060012,39656432,940&tbm=lcl&rldimm=6504144230609431674&tbs=lrf:!2m1!1e2!2m1!1e3!3sEAE,lf:1,lf_ui:2
So what are you talking abouthuh Mombasa has the largest Dockyard on the continent after Durban.We actually do ship repairs here!!


Port Harcourt has better public schools than Mombasa
Lawd!!!At no point has Nigeria's public school system ever been superior to that of Kenya at primary or secondary level.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Index
So No.
Plus Mombasa's public schooling is waaaaaay above even that of most Nigerian cities. Leave alone Port Harcourt.
grin grin grin

1, how do you know Port Harcourt smells of crude and fish everywhere? grin Because the last time I went there, it has an aroma of Korea. grin

2, is there beach in Paris? But how come it is one of the most beautiful country in the world? grin

3, Good you agreed on the transportation aspect, but How do you know Port Harcourt is filled with dirty roads? grin

4, please, show me the pictures of public health centres in Mombasa. Make we see. Pictures don't lie. grin

5, how many highrise is in Mombasa? Please, prove it with a reliable source or pinktures. grin But for now Port Harcourt has more than 28 highrise. grin

6, Bhuuuhahaha! grin Port Harcourt is among the cities in Nigeria oyinbo walking updan. grin Those people you see in Mombasa are likely citizens of Kenya. grin Na normal things. grin

7, who told you the Refineries has stopped working? Is Mombasa's Refinery function? Because your statement suggested it doesn't. grin

8, I will come to industries later? grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 1:32pm On May 12, 2017
vaxx:
you are not saying the truth. Many rural dweller will migrate from their town,to urban lagos becuse of the new development which can not satisfy the lagosians themselves. Lagos state will experience much population becuse of its mortality rate. Abuja the cosmetic city with no histrorical fact might likely reduce becuse it is build to accomodate first class nigerians and not whole nigeria. The only african capital nigerians themselves can not live.
@bolded got me cracking. Shuuuu! If Nigerians themselves can't live, abeg, na who dey live dere now? shocked grin

Sha, na monkey!? shocked angry grin

Bhuuuhahaha! grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 12:59pm On May 12, 2017
Marcelo290:
Those pictures of Port Harcourt are really dope and beautiful, I just hope the projects are completed cos one of our problems is abandoned projects due to successive change of government.
That will be suicidal. grin

The reason I said Port Harcourt should be compared with Mombasa is because I have been to the city myself and I have taken Ghanaian, Ivorien, Korean etc to the city, it left them with very good impressions. It was unimaginable that such city exit in the Nigeria they heard of the media. grin

The Ivorien was blown away, the Ghanaian called it europe while the Korean rated it above Lagos (but me I no gree that one ooo) though admitted Lagos na father. grin

The city is beautiful with wider roads, restaurants, boutiques, hotels are littered allover the city. grin etc
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:17am On May 12, 2017
Port Harcourt stadium grin

I hope Mombasa got better one that this else it is a TKO. grin tongue

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:08am On May 12, 2017
Port Harcourt stadium loading... grin

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:46am On May 12, 2017
Jay254:
I have said here athousand Times no one believes Nigerian figures,

Look at this way
PH has almost 2m ppl while mombasa has 1.2m
Both have 1000 dolla Milionairs dispite the population
Mombasa has way bigger port than PH
Mombasa has way better City, more Highrise than PH
Mombasa is way more multicultured more industrialised than Ph

Nairobi on the other hand has a population of 3.5m while Lagos has over 10m
Nairobi has 6200 dolla millionairs while lagos has 9100 take note of the population and the difference.

Nigerian Central Govt had same Budget as Kenyan Central govt at 22b dollas.

So I do not trust those Nigerian crap
Hahahahahah!

Let us look at this this way
Port Harcourt has better and complete transportation system and amenities than Mombasa e.g better airport, Mono rail, Inter - city rail, sea Port, bridges and good road network.
Port Harcourt has better public health amenities than Mombasa.
Port Harcourt has better city and more highrise than Mombasa. The last two pages showed 25 highrise already top up with others already on ground. Pls, take note that highrise is defined as structure with 12 and about floors.
Port Harcourt has better vibrant Estates than Mombasa. grin
Port Harcourt has better Sport amenities than Mombasa
Port Harcourt has more refineries than Mombasa

Port Harcourt has better public schools than Mombasa grin


I don't know much about the numbers of industries in Mombasa but I can tell you Port Harcourt has many industries. Check this and give me the link to industries in Mombasa. grin

http://www.businesslist.com.ng/category/industrial-services/city:port-harcourt

I will provide pictures of gigantic manufacturing companies latter. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:45am On May 12, 2017
. Oops. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:37am On May 12, 2017
Still Heliconia-park-estate, Port Harcourt..... grin

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:33am On May 12, 2017
Port Harcourt Estates pictures loading...... grin

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:20am On May 12, 2017
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:19am On May 12, 2017
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 2:01am On May 12, 2017
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 1:52am On May 12, 2017
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 1:49am On May 12, 2017
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 1:45am On May 12, 2017
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 1:41am On May 12, 2017
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:49pm On May 11, 2017
Port Harcourt Estates

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