₦airaland Forum

Toeyean1507:
Maybe people voted with thier LASSRA number.

They had better not institute another lockdown. Instead LASG to enforce the use of standard nose mask, ✋ gloves and use of hand sanitiser. They are there talking nonsense about another lockdown.

The government is clueless on what to do. They have no plan hence lock down. Other counties are opening , Lagos is contemplating lock down. Any plan to further lock down will fail. I pray God gives them sense to take a proactive step in their fight.

Hotfreeze:
I hope the developers of Lagos take this chance very seriously.

Online polls are the closest they can get to participating in Lagos politics since they got a few seats in Lagos in 2015 and used 2015 to 2019 to insult their helpers.

This government should put in more efforts in testing and tracing. They are more committed to lockdown than testing. Let them start looking for how to test at least 5 Million.

Do u think they have the capacity? You cannot give what you don't have.

Clueless leaders. What is the lock down supposed to achieve. I think its just a way to discipline the people and force them to adhere.

GavelSlam:
It isn't overhyped.

Granted morbidity is often for those with underlying issues, one cannot rule out its devastation for a large number of people.

Italy with one of the highest level of medicare had tens of thousands dying, even if majority were elderly.

On the flip side, Sweden with a high number of Somali refugees has begun to witness very high numbers in that demography

A large number of people with underlying illnesses. Most people in the world do not have underlying sickness and most people in the world are not old. The focus shld be on the 2 vulnerable categories of people not on the rest of us

pokipoki:
You must be very stupid to say such. Not everyone with underline health issues pass on with covid-19. People without underline issues even babies die because of covid-19. Get your facts straight.

He mentioned they have a high risk, so its still probability.

GavelSlam:
Until you or your loved ones are exposed to it many of your kind would continue to minimize its danger.

The point he is making is that the virus is over hyped. Live a healthy life style and the virus is harmless.

CAPSLOCKED:
ONE MORE REMINDER THAT NOTHING FAILS LIKE PRAYER.

In your own world

SpaceAngel:
Though I don't understand what she said but from the tone of her voice I know she's deeply hurt. Why someone would record this sad event and post on social media is beyond my understanding.
I don't want to believe it's the person talking that was recording this.
Sad.
Brings back memories I don't like.

Just to trend for a few minutes. Somethings are best kept private

AntiChristian:
Paul is unknown in Islam. It is a lie and figment of your imagination.

Despite quoting from sura 36? Why do u argue with your scholars. What does your opinion matter? I will send the refenece soon

AntiChristian:
I know there's hatred in your blood. The next time you abuse our Prophet I will just report you to the mods. Moses, Joshua, David, etc were not violent right? Samson's hair was cut while in company of Delilah and he later committed suicide with his enemies. Samson too was a great killer for Jehovah. When will you condemn all of these people? Call David the ancestor of Jesus your God a killer! An adulterer!

In Qur'an 36:14 two messengers were sent and were denied and Allah sends a third. So is this Paul, Paul's father and then his uncle the three messengers? Kindly bring where there names where mentioned.

It's either Jesus was a liar or you are the liar!

Mat 15:23-24
But Jesus did not answer a word. So His disciples came and urged Him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.” 24He (Jesus) answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Jesus was later forced to heal the woman but it is apparent he was not sent to her!

Do you now accept Paul or i fabricated his existence in the Qur'an?

FlordFlorez:
Non. What about Yoruba's name that starts with C?

They don't have the alphabet -C

AntiChristian:
Choose it one by one yourself shebi na your book!

I don't have anything to discuss with you on Allaah! You lack the idea of what the Almighty should be like. Your. own God can drink tea with Adeboye. Angels/Satan/Spirit can meet Him and they can relate since they are of the same essence. Your spirit God created Satan, Angel in Spirit with the same make up of himself. Bye on this.

Your response lacks critical reasoning. Its you that lack the understanding of how God should be. Who are you to tell of what God can and cannot do. If you a human dictates for him on what is and is not does this not contradict the concept of being almighty?
Note there angels and satan etc are spirits cos u can't see them. God is also a spirit cos you can't see him. Being a spirit is a state of existence same as bring physical. The state does not define the person. I hope you can logically analyse what i have stated.
Pastor adeboye can talk of himself and God that's him what i talk to you about are things from the bible

AntiChristian:
I know there's hatred in your blood. The next time you abuse our Prophet I will just report you to the mods. Moses, Joshua, David, etc were not violent right? Samson's hair was cut while in company of Delilah and he later committed suicide with his enemies. Samson too was a great killer for Jehovah. When will you condemn all of these people? Call David the ancestor of Jesus your God a killer! An adulterer!

In Qur'an 36:14 two messengers were sent and were denied and Allah sends a third. So is this Paul, Paul's father and then his uncle the three messengers? Kindly bring where there names where mentioned.

It's either Jesus was a liar or you are the liar!

Mat 15:23-24
But Jesus did not answer a word. So His disciples came and urged Him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.” 24He (Jesus) answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Jesus was later forced to heal the woman but it is apparent he was not sent to her!

Why are you running to the mods. Tell me what lie i have said about your prophet. You know it's embarrassing when you hear the truth from you own books about your prophet.
Of course no one was perfect in the bible except Jesus. We do not base our salvation on samson or Moses but on Jesus the perfect sacrifice.
You expect cos someone was mentioned in the bible he should be pure etc, you forget they were all human with flaws. Abraham was a liar, Moses a murderer, David a murderer and adulterer, but God had to move through people to ensure the birth of Jesus. Jesus came in via Mary but the seed in Mary was not from any of the men listed above. It was divine.
About the verse you quoted, you can't force Jesus, its impossible. Always tell the full story not cherry picking. In the whole passage there was nothing about anyone forcing Jesus. Jesus in John 3 vs 16 talks of the world. And there is also a theory of adoption i will explain whn i am chanced.

AntiChristian:
This is not copy and paste.

It is from my post here. When you are ready to comment on all the atrocities Jehovah committed in those verses then mention me! I know you and your brothers will run from those verses.

I am not running, i said choose one and we will talk about it. How do you expect me to handle all at once. Also you have not responded on Allah being neither physical nor a spirit.

Says a prophet that cleans up after himself with stones
Source:

Hadith No: 44
From: Sunan An-Nasai. Chapter 1, The Book of Purification
Narrated/Authority of Aisha
that the Messenger of Allah (saw) said: "When any one of you goes to the Ghait (toilet to defecate), let him take with him three stones and clean himself with them, for that will suffice him." (Hasan)


Hadith No: 266
From: Sunan An-Nasai. Chapter 1, The Book of Purification
Narrated/Authority of Abdullah bin Salimah
"I came to Ali with two other men and he said: 'The Messenger of Allah (saw) used to come out of the toilet and recite Qur;an, and he would eat meat with us and nothing would prevent him from (reciting) Qur'an except Janabah." (Hasan)

If allah knows best why asking for public opinion? Or allah does not......

babakb:
Story Story, Islam is the fastest growing Religion in the world.

Says an outdated source. Why not check new stats and conclude.

989900:
I wonder o!

How would the whole country have been acquainted with the severity of the virus if those drastic measures weren't put in place ab initio? Even at that, some still don't take the situation seriously -- some don't even believe the virus exists!

Actually, we locked down later than sooner, without the lockdown, we probably would have been doing Italy or Spain figures!

Italy has lots of old people and they culture of physical contact , this is what led to the fatalities.

Slynation:
Rubbish.... And one mumu Johesu boss is advising the FG not to import CVO from Madagascar just because we are the Giant of Africa and it's a diagrace to do so...Yet since February they'v produce nothing other than SPB, Preeq enlargement creams and Virginal tightening creams etc...

Ndi ara Ndi ara....! !

You did not read what he said, he said Nigeria has solutions that can fight against the virus just as the Madagascar one does. And the government should patronise her local people first

mywells:
Eii Nigeria so all this churches couldn’t help us from this Coro virus, now 5000+, after this, Government should close down all 1man churches

What have churches got to do with the virus. When you have a cold do u go to church to be prayed for or u keep yourself warm? The virus targets based on life style.

Kobojunkie:
My mistake!

I have said nothing about paul's words being in contradiction to that of Jesus. That exercise or attempt at such can wait till another thread. That said, I believe we are safe to focus solely on the foundational teachings of Christ and Christ alone since His truth should suffice in all things. Or don't you think so? Afterall, He is the way, the truth and the life!

Ok no problem.

Kobojunkie:
May I suggest you look in to the gospels to learn for yourself. A hint for you.. start from Matthew 5. It goes on for at least up to Chapter 13.
That not all of Jesus's words were written, does not mean that His commands were not sufficiently covered in what is written.

Peter, and the rest obviously did not write down all they had learnt from Jesus. None of the disciples mentioned Paul by name in their epistles, so I would be careful to assume the teaching they acknowledged was in fact Paul's teachings.

Any teaching that stands in contrast with what Christ taught ought to be tossed out, isn't that so?

Peterl talked about Paul 2 Peter 3 vs 15. What did paul say that contradicts Jesus?

Kobojunkie:
Which of his 49 commandment do you suppose the above summaries?

I would rather,we focus first on Jesus' own words for the purpose of this since the foundation for anyone who claims to be His follower ought to be a clear and concise understanding of what the Truth, that is Jesus, is.

Okay what are the commandments then, cos Jesus asked his disciples to teach what they learnt. And hope you know its not all Jesus words that were written. If Peter and the rest wrote down what they learnt from Jesus and even acknowledged Paul's teachings as been of Jesus i see no reason why there is a problem with that.

Kobojunkie:
There are only 4 known gospels of Jesus , are there not?

In these you will find the answers to all you seek. John 5 vs 12- 15 summarises one of the commandments of Jesus. Some of his disciples also wrote in the new Testament do u doubt their text too?

Farki:
Like I said if you fall victim don't complain. Most of the leading causes of death in both Africa and the West are preventable and treatable.

COVID-19 is also preventable but we are fighting the same preventive measures. It's like someone insisting that they should drink from a gutter regardless of if they get cholera.

Countries more advanced than Nigeria tried to downplay the issue and now they have changed their tone after realising how serious it was. It's now the same Nigeria that you complain about 24/7 that you expect to be fine.

Its a fact that some people are immune to the virus. The virus mainly kills people with underlying conditions and old people.These are the people the focus should be on. Most healthy people get well. Sweden did not lock down and the morality rate is no different than their neighbors. Most of the deaths in Sweden are from old peoples' homes.
Nigeria shld stop copying other countries and choose the solution that works best for her. Lock down is not a solution. Its just a way of postponing the inevitable. Learn to live with the virus and keep the healthy ones working while you focus on the old and vulnerable.

Kobojunkie:
My issue is mainly with the origin of the teachings that drive the belief. Are those teachings of Christ or doctrines created by men for the furthering of their ideals, their traditions and rules?

According to the Bible, the location of the "house of God" does matter. I mean the one and only building proclaimed the "house of God", existed in Jerusalem and it is suggested that at the very end, the building will go up again the same location.
As for his church, Christ never mentioned buildings as his church. His teachings pointed to the heart of man being were He and His Father would come in and make their home. So?

Moving God online, a decision thanks to coronavirus, does not now correct ages old issues in teachings that formed the belief to begin with.

How can they go back to the original message when much of the fundamental doctrines the protestant movement adheres to were put forth by those who hijacked Christianity after the death of the disciples?
Did you know that Jesus came with a new religion for man, and He put forth 49 commands(My yoke is light...) for those who believe him(if you love me, you will keep my commandments) in the new covenant that he brung with him? How many of those 49 commandments do you know of? And how many of the many Churchians today are even aware of this?

What is your source for Jesus words?

wristbangle:
Build structures? Lol are you referring to Nigerian government? The remaining questions asked, you know the answer already.

Well if they can't build most definitely they will not share any palliatives. I pray for good leaders to rule Nigeria. The existing ones don't deserve re election

just2endowed:
Like what measures? Everybody is just complaining this and that. What best way should the governor handle it? There is no compliance at all. At this time of the night, 3rd mainland bridge to ikorodu is still heavy with traffic. People are not putting on face mask. Police is not doing nathing. Everyone is just fade up on our lawless we are.
People are still outside running around.

The governor said there is curfew. Can u say there is any curfew? No

The solution is to build physical structures to help social distancing and ask ppl to work from home if they can

Farki:
Rent will pass, coffins are permanent. Since Nigerians have refused to obey the conditions for easing the lockdown we have 2 options;

- open the state completely and accept that many people are going to die.

- lockdown until a vaccine or cure is found or the disease stops spreading.

If we could simply obey then we wouldn't have to make the above choices. If we choose number one nobody who falls victim should complain.

Its mortality rate is too low that many will die. Do u know other things kill more than corona? How come there has not beem lock down over those diseases? The media is presenting a mole hill as a mountain to you.

KingKingKing:
You are damn funny, Did you just say use facemasks? Don't you go out on the streets to see how non compliant Lagosians are? A lot of people do not value their lives thereby putting the lives of those who value their lives at risk!

The only language Nigerians understand is "Force" we gotta learn the hard way , we have sworn to be defiant and non compliant then we have to be locked up once again so as to protect those who are vulnerable from getting infected !

You also talk about the economy! Awww what a kind way to show how much you love the economy, ECONOMY MY FOOT! T
The economy u love so much is being manhandled by the ruling elits who plunder and loot from the proceeds of the economy, while the poor man on the street is left to die!

My parting words to you seun DO NOT WORRY SO MUCH ABOUT THE ECONOMY BECAUSE WHEN THE ECONOMY GOES DOWN , GOVERNMENT KNOWS HOW TO REVIVE THE ECONOMY, WORRY ABOUT YOUR LIFE AND THE LIVES OF THOSE YOU LOVE BECAUSE WHEN THEY ARE LOST, GOVERNMENT HAS GOT NO CLUE ON HOW TO REVIVE THEM.

A HEALTHY LIFE IS A HEALTHY ECONOMY!

You cannot lock down healthy people. The more you keep ppl at home they weaker their immunity is. And once you release them they go out and get sick. Let the sick stay home and the healthy go and work. The virus has a low mortality rate. Other countries are restarting their economies, you are asking Nigerians to stay home and do what? Wait until a miracle drops from heaven? Over 90 percent of people who get the virus get better and they become immune to it. Dont let the media deceive you that it's a death sentence

wristbangle:
This is Nigeria where motorists, people, market places, etc have thrown caution to the wind. Are you not in Lagos to see how people disregard simple instruction to wear nose mask and observe social distancing?

I don't like the lockdown idea but if it is to correct the stubbornness of people, Lagos should enforce it with immediate effect.

Lock down is not the solution. It is a fact that lock down alone does not work. All they need to do is to build structures that will enforce social distancing etc. How many hand sanitizing stations did they build? How many face masks or shields did they distribute? Are they making sure that companies that are open ( banks)are complying with the safety regulations?

Pattypatt:
People are voting for lockdown.

Lazy people i suppose. No business man or person with responsibility will vote for lock down.