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Maximus69:In all honesty, u do not sound experienced at all. What you don't understand is how dedicated JWs are to their God, so i'm sure your atheistic mindset will not allow you reason beyond what you're seeing.I am still waiting for a proof of the existence of this ur God. Clutching of fairy tales is delusional.... U can never achieve anything with it. That's why JW have not empacted the world despite all their efforts. People around you are vowing never to carry weapons for any reason whatsoever again but all you could say is "that's not possible" simply because they're doing so for God and you don't want to believe in the existence of God!Statement like this makes me feel u don't have experience. U were just a soldier and u feel u have seen enough of the world. Look around u and smell the coffee. Bad people must always exist... The world is a tough place and means of survival is becoming scarce. Good people who want peace will always exist and so will bad people. This is the reality of life not some mumbo jumbo fairy tale wishy wishy. |
LordReed:How can he even just think that JW are the only group that take care of their own and advocate for peace. What kind of adult thinks like this? |
Maximus69:Well I have noticed other Muslim, Christian and even ordinary charity organizations who advocate for peace. All rules are set by someone else. And people still break rules even when they believe it's set by a higher being. So many JW member still break the rules of peace. People must always break rule in a world with scarce means of survival, JW or not. (2) People practicing politics and festivities are everywhere on this planet, but what i've observed in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses is found nowhere else! Despite the fact that JWs don't practice politics nor celebrate any of the so call festivities as people the world over does, yet a JW from Nigeria is welcomed as a family member in any other country on this planet, they'll treat him as if they've known this total stranger for long.Seriously are u a kid? Atheists are people who don't believe in the existence of God.. They still have their own friends and relations who they sure will welcome into their homes anytime. And as for groups who take care of their own.. Other religious orgamizations do so, even cult groups do the same. Heck there are just online groups who take care of themselves when ever to travel into strange lands. U need to expand ur world view bro. (3) Perhaps you can find an ideal standard, please don't forget me bey that's what i want NOT Jehovah's Witnesses!Not sure what u are saying here. (4)As i said earlier, i was born and bread a Muslim, worked as military intelligence officer and the one and only organization i have noticed so far is Jehovah's Witnesses. You can ask soldiers that have been to battle as in real war front, just ask them if they've ever noticed someone or group of persons who will prefer to surrender their lives instead of killing others even if it's the last option. My friend, what you will hear about Jehovah's Witnesses may surprise you!JW are not the only group that are nice to themselves. Watin concern soldier with JW life style. Are soldiers the only ones who notice JW life style? Certainly achieving PEACE is possible if people truly humble themselves to learn how to go about it. The problem is pride and ego. Jehovah's Witnesses are preaching, teaching and practicing PEACE everywhere they live!It's not possible because humans will never truly themselves in a world of scarcity of means to survived. I am not sure ur God has even figured this out. It's not actually pride and ego, it's scarcity which breeds greed and envy. And some people are naturally dubious... U need to understand the world u live in. |
Maximus69:It's only a response to ur question of if there can be peace without concrete agreement on dos a d donts. The second underlined is exactly what Jehovah's Witnesses believe and we're practicing in our midst.JW are not the only group that preach about living in harmony, but like all other groups that preach this, they have not achieved any feat. Pls stop parading ur ignorance like a juvenile. U cannot acheieve peacr by preaching fairy tales, distancing ur selves from politics and not celebrating occasions that brings people together in happyness. So you can now ask those who don't want to live by the standard we set within ourselves, what exactly they want from us!Ur standard is not the ideal standard. Those who live by it are not even a model to be envied. As for God whether he exist or not is no more an interesting topic between us since you and i have agreed that people can decide to set standards within themselves, agree to live by it and set penalties for defaulters WITHIN!Ok Regarding what i said about Jehovah's Witnesses, well think of what will happen if everyone on planet earth vowed and stick to their vows,And like I told u u are not the only group that advocate that people stick to such vows. The question is, how possible is that? In a world of scarce means of survival, I doubt if any group can acheieve such feat. Climb down from ur high fairy tale horse and face the reality of the world u live in. |
Maximus69:I never said all humans love peace. There are different people from different background... It's impossible to have all people who love peace. Rather most people love peace. Yes there can be peace even when people don't agree but certainly not when everybody is concorting their own fairy tale and each insisting that other people's fairy tale is wrong while their own fairy tale is wrong. (2) The brain capacity is what makes it compulsory for some to become submissive to others. The problem here is 99.9% of the world's population are ATHEISTS but most of them aren't even aware of this fact!I really don't know how mind control works but I don't advocate for people to allow themselves to be deceived or for people to be scared to believe in lies. People just really need to use their brain instead of allowing it to waste. If God is real, he should simply prove himself beyond any reasonable doubt. There is just one group on planet Earth that agree completely with the concept of higher intelligent minds "Jehovah's Witnesses". All other groups be it religious or social are just dribbling themselves, because each of them just want to live by his own personal standard, that's why there is no peace in all their settings.Not accepting that God exists does not automatically means one wants to live by his own personal standard. If a group of people must live in harmony, they must learn to create their own rule and decide on how to punish defaulters. Living by one's own personal standard only implies not minding how others feel when u do something u like but affects others. People must learn to sacrifice, obey rules that makes the society sane and learn to show empathy to others. Believing in a higher intelligent being is just nothing but shifting responsibility. The more intelligent ones amongst them have discovered that humans are inclined towards worship, so they're seizing the opportunity to hypnotize them and make fortune out of their stupidity. Meanwhile since each of them just want to live by his own standard, it's either they choose the group that suits their liken or organize another one and start calling people having the same mindset to come and join them, that's why there are countless religious groups with contradicting doctrines and conflicting teachings, yet claiming worshipers of the same God today!Well this is actually the problem with religious people. Even u. U just even described ur self. The one and only organization that truthfully believe (trust) in the idea of a higher intelligent mind (God) is Jehovah's Witnesses, that's why LOVE JOY and PEACE is working in our midst!That's what u will say, other religious folks don't agree with this. Neither have u proved that any higher intelligent being exists. |
Maximus69:LOL, u want to be winning people over but u don't expect people to want to win u over. As long as we are humans with different brain capacities, we will all be victims of the act of winning each other over. |
Maximus69:U don't actually get it wrong... I think u are doing ur thing on a very very wrong premisies. When u bring in the the God factor in a human phenomenon u just can never get it right because the people just pretend to understand u without really understanding u. The fear factor and all the unknown unexplainable brouhaha allows them to remain in ur control unit they are able to relate that what u are telling them is just a fairy tale. People Will definitely shun u when the reality of what they face is not corresponding with what u are telling them. This makes them Lost in ur whole devine all knowing being story. When they can't relate, which is quite understandable, they push u out.. Unfortunate ur God seem to be lost in this. |
Maximus69:To be honest with u, there is nothing about Jehovah witness group that is impressive apart from what u are saying. I have them as my neighbors and extended families. They disassociate themselves a lot for my likening. They don't vote, they dont celebrate birthday, they don't do Christmas even for the sake of it, they don't celebrate indipendence or Easter or sallah. These are avenues where love is expressed and peaceful coexistence a gender is promoted. U decide not to have a say in voting the best person to rule u... Yet u claim to promote love and peace... U are a huge joke. Honestly, I will rather give it to catholics or liberal Muslims as peaceful people instead of witnesses. Yet it is impossible for a group to come out and say they are the most loving and peaceful people on earth. Do u have the best charity organizations in the world? What are ur roles in the northern part of Nigeria or in siria or other troubled areas to ensure we have peace in these areas. Pls we don't need all the audio love claims. |
Maximus69:All we are saying is there is no proof of ur God. Saying the proof of his existence is all over the place is a meaniless jargon. Sorting out our differences and living as good neighbours are what we must do if we want to have a happy and peaceful life. It's what we need to survive in the midst of scare means of survival. It's not what God, wherever u think he is, needs. U can't bring him in unnecessarily even when he does not fit in. We don't need God to tell us to love or seek peace. Humans know they need it just circumstances beyond them makes them act otherwise. |
Maximus69:U are just pathetic in ur biased thinking I have immediate friends who will love at all cost and they are not members of ur church. I have Muslim friends who have given me and other people I know so much love thorough out my knowing them. The ability to love can come through any means... Some people have a natural disposition to be very loving and loveable people. Some people learnt it by either experience or teaching. If witnesses teach people to love it does not make them unique in anyway. U are wrong to pick them out as the most loving people on earth. I have seen many of them that arr not as loving as some Muslims I know. The bottom line is there are mixtures of different people everywhere. And God giving us commandment to love only shows he has no idea what is obtainable in this world. |
Maximus69:Are u not embarrassed by this response? The creators instruction to u is to love. U don't even know what love is. U think love is whats seen in the Bible? U think love is creating man, sending lucifer to decieve them and putting the tree of good and evil in their midst and never forgiving them and their generation millions if years after? Oga, u have no idea what love is. Let me start by giving u different categories of feelings of likeness that have been classified as love.. Likeness for one's sibling, or family members Likeness of one u are in a sexual relationship with Likeness for urself And likeness for ur neigbour or distant friends or person You guys do not think things through that's why u are quick to judge and talk anyhow. There are certain conditions in life that can make one express all these categories of love in different degrees to both ones self and others around him. Both u, the so called Christian, I the atheists, and even a Muslim are a victim of these conditions. Here are some of the conditions: Up bringing, environment, experience, learning, biological dispositions and others we might not even know. Good enough, almost everyone likes a peaceful environment... Unfortunately means to survive is scarce and this breeds greed and envy. That's why humans brings in rules to help them survive despite everything. Ur God cannot sit down in an unknowns place and give u commandnmet to love like he knows nothing about how love is developed. Can a ghetto street child love as much as someone with good parental upbringing? Is it enough to command these kids to love? Humans with brain know they need love and peace to survive... God don't have to say it, it is not his survival it is urs. The choice is urs to love and not God to tell u to love. In essence man will still love weather ur God commandeth it or not. So God asking u to love is a useless commandment but I am not surprise because u seem to worship a God who does useless things. |
Job Maximus69:Name one standard that was set by ur God that u as his believer is using. |
Maximus69:From whom does ur ideas come from? |
Maximus69:@bold... U are just a funny dude. Someone does not believe ur God exists therefore she should not have an idea. If u accept that atheism is about freedom, tell me... freedom from what? Atheism has hatred for mind control, and u want them to sit and watch their loved ones fall victim of mind control? When u say atheists like freedom, I ask again... Freedom from what. Try and answer this question then we can try understanding each other. If u think u are not the stupid one for asking "idea from who" then u already have a problem. Perhaps I should ask u... From "Who" does ur own idea comes from, since mayb ur brain does not function. |
The list is supposed to come from ur parents. He is either scamming u or just trying out measures to get little cash from u. Do not give him any cash if u have not met him face to face. At this stage all u guys can do it court wedding. Stop sending money to him. |
Pierced:Yes pray it does not come to Nigeria. But are u actually talki g to someone who can take action against the virus coming to naija or just hoping. If u are just hoping... Fine, I am with u on this. If u actually are in contact with someone who can help, then there lies the problem. The question is... Why do u think he will allow thousands to die in China and not allow the virus to come to naija. If he can watch thousands die in China, what's the special thing about u or naija that can make him not allow the virus to reach here? I am just asking sha |
XaintJoel20:Once in a while u travel small and learn.. U will not b this myopic |
Maximus69:So? How does this prove ur excuse of a God? Mr. Wisest one. |
Fortissimo502:So these two stupid meaningless and useless reasons are why God will not help Leah in her time of need despite her faithfulness. Heck she does not need to be faithful, she just needs to be created by him as u guys propose. The devil as no power over God. Man's free will: Leah didn't chose to be abducted by the crazy sect. God does not exist, stop trying to convince ur self with foolish excuses. |
MuttleyLaff:U guys keep on comparing the way we think with God's yet u want us to believe that God is supposedly almighty and his level of thinking is beyond us. If u don't have answers to certain questions just say u don't know instead of trying to make us believe God thinks like ordinary human. I can explain why a father might delay in intervening in a child's case and I am sure that even if I watch my child suffer in a kidnerppers hand jsut because I asked him not to go out at night will make me appear wicked. U can't explain the reason why God will not step in at a particular time for Leah.. What does God or Leah stand to gain from this delay? |
Fortissimo502:Why did the help when he is needed is not the same as he is responsible. Responsible or not, he can help, why did not just help? |
shadeyinka:Nah u are the ones blaming God for good things will happen to Leah in the future... So we ask is he not seeing her suffer at the moment? Does it not sound like he delebratly leaves her to suffer so as to rescue her when he wishes too? |
shadeyinka:On God's children... |
shadeyinka:Wow... Tell me more good news |
Maximus69:What a tricky reply. Will u like ur your present little sis or elder sis or even ur daughter to be in Leah's situation? Will u have wished that they take her place? Can u tell this to their face that u will fly to the sky if they were the ones in the hands of boko haram instead of Leah? SHE IS THE GREATEST BLACK WOMAN OF ALL TIMES!So while the rest of Nigerians are praying she comes out of the situation, calling on government to interven, you are happy she is there, calling her a hero and stuff. No wonder u are a special Christian who knows the Bible more than them all. I know you're one of those hopeless religionists claiming ATHEISTS. For your information, you're also a religionist, what your own religion teaches is selfish ambitions and disorderliness, that's why you're thinking you don't belong to any religion. But i'm telling you today that you belong to a religion!U know nothing about me bro, but u are free to call me whatever u want. I am not selfish neither do I want disorder. I just want a proof of the existence of this God u so defend everyday. Religionists have what they want and motivate others to do the same, if you're not a religionist please tell me what you've been doing all these while on Naira land?I am here to show u that ur belive is nonsensical and false and perhaps get u to think critically and stop wasting ur time on something that is not real. It's also an opportunity for me to hear from u and make u prove to me how real ur God is... In this case u all keep on failing. |
Maximus69:Will u be happy if ur sister was making such historical legendary? |
joobseekar:Imagine... Are we all then not in serious trouble? |
LordReed2nd:Pls I am still waiting for answer to this question |
Maximus69:Mr. "most informed christian". What kind of world is that ur God put Christians to be going through pain, some for a life time. what kind of agenda is that? only a mad man will leave the devil to be ruling the world for thousands of years while his people suffer and only live in hope, not even a single assurance that this hope will come to reality. i wish u are the one in the hands of boko haram |
vickydankal:U have knowledge of the possibilities of God and the wisest thing u get out of this knowledge is that the poor girl (who has finally been islamized) should continue suffering after more than 2 years while waiting for ur God. I am sure ur God will put her in hell for not waiting patiently and allowing herself be converted. I think your God is a mad man |
vickydankal:How about u be in her shoes and just wait for the day God will make everything right. Imagine Leah was ur sister, will u ever have mouth to say this? God can do everything and u think the poor girl should be suffering while waiting for the day God will make everything right? Why do I just wish u are the one in her shoes right now. |
phlegmatic007:I think God loves u better than Leah... After all he chooses to bless whome he wants to bless. He has decided not to help Leah, accept it like that. |
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