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okosodo:
Comrade Adams Aliyu Oshiomhole . No rival in road construction, over 500+ roads constructed and still counting. Schools rehabilitated to the standards of those in Canada. Central hospital like the one in Georgia USA. 400 INTRA CITY buses. 10,500 direct labour jobs even though dominated by his village people. Note that these things i have listed is not up to 40% of what he has done in just 3 years.

newmi:
Thats a simple one!
How else can you link it when you go to your pastor and say "pastor please l want to sow such and such into your life and such and such is/are my expection" and then prays and agrees with you trusting God for that specific miracle and praise to God those words pronounced during prayer fructifies to reality oh now we have a testimony so would you link that to anything other than singular act of faith?

mazaje:
Which testable evidence have you provided to show that your God exist and is real? I can give you a very simple test from the bible based on the promise that your God has given to all those that belive in him, we can try the promised based test and see if it till work whenever you are ready. . .So God is now into personal relationships with people, eh?. . .back in the days when men were primitive and superstitious God was fighting wars and battles with them, addressing them through public speech, sewing cloths for them etc now that men have increased their knowledge and better understand the world around them the same God has ran away. . .

2 Samuel 22:14-15 The LORD thundered from heaven, and the Most High uttered his voice. And he sent out arrows, and scattered them; lightning, and routed them.

Why is it that your God only does these fantastic things in the pages of story books and not in reality?. . . Remember if the bible is true then we can test and see if the God written about is real, let me know if you are ready for the test and we do it once and for all. . .

mazaje:
One thing with science is that when knew knowledge is available old knowledge is discarded and the information becomes updated unlike religion that relies ONLY on long myths and ancients stories and legends that can not be updated but discarded, many modern christians have discarded the creation stories in genesis and are now regarding it as an allegory because i does not agree with the scientific reality we now know. . . .Back in the days Pluto was thaught t be a planet, images were given and videos of it were shown, not it has been de-listed as a planet, light used to be the fastest thing in the universe now its not, Neutrinos travel faster than the speed of light and the knew knowledge has been update, its left for you to believe or keep dwelling on past knowledge. . . .

I provided you a link that explains everything instead of reading it you prefer to come up with the drivel you typed above? No wonder you were trying to argue that a deity is not the same thing as God earlier. . . .Well done. . .

Here is the link again. . .http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn12532-jupiter-increases-risk-of-comet-strike-on-earth.html

mazaje:
Learn to read what you post before ejecting pls. . .Here is what is written in the link you posted. . .

As the probes are extremely small compared to the vastness of interstellar space, the probability of a space faring civilization encountering them is very small, especially since the probes will eventually stop emitting any kind of electromagnetic radiation. If they are ever found by an alien species, it will most likely be far in the future as the nearest star on Voyager 1's trajectory will only be reached in 40,000 years.Carl Sagan noted that "The spacecraft will be encountered and the record played only if there are advanced space-faring civilizations in interstellar space. But the launching of this 'bottle' into the cosmic 'ocean' says something very hopeful about life on this planet."[2] Thus the record is best seen as a time capsule or a symbolic statement rather than a serious attempt to communicate with extraterrestrial life

This alone destroys your assertion, even if it finds any extraterritorial life there is NO we we here on earth can know. . .The distance between stars will make it impossible for them to find us as well, by the way it is not a serious attempt of communicating with extra terrestrials as the link you provided clearly indicated. . .Lern to understand what you are saying before presenting them. . . 

Hubble's mission Is NOT to detect alien life in other parts of the universe. . . .So I don't know why you are mentioning hubble here

PA1982:
^^^
Well, to start with, I don't believe that curses have any effect whatsoever.

The effect of prayer?
It's an expression of solidarity with a sufferer and their family.

mazaje:
You statement is not completely true, so far all the observatories out there non was set on a mission to detect life outside our solar system. . . .At present time, the search for life in the universe is not a big-ticket program like the Space Shuttle, ISSn or Constellation. It makes astonishing advances anyway but at a slower pace than if we allow it the same resources. The search for life has not really began in Ernest. . .
Pls where did you get this information from? I will link to see the source of this information, the proposed terrestrial planet finder has not bee launched yet, so I really do not know where you got what you typed above from. . .Pls drop the source of this information you just dropped. . .

mazaje:
Read about the telescopes and their limitations before making uninformed comments. . .Scientist just recently discovered that a lot of the stars out there are solar systems like ours, the discovery is not even up to 10 years, the Kepler space observatory that is meant to find out earth like planets was sent out to observe a very tiny part of the milky way galaxy for earth like planets in the habitable regions was launched in 2009 with a mission of about 3-4 years, so far 68 earth like planets have been discovered in 2011 alone. because of the techniques they use and the limitation of the space observatory its very difficult to detect earth like planets, its much easier to detect gas giants like Jupiter. . .The James Webb telescope that will be launched in 2013 will be responsible for detecting planatery systems capable of supporting life. . . Pls learn about these things before making uninformed comments. . . .

Jenwitemi:
I do not agree with that notion, mate. You have not make anything clear with that claim of yours because it isn't true of all sentient beings in the universe. Some will seek to conquer, yes, but others will seek to interact benevolently. The nature of the intent behind interaction depends on the level of maturity of the race that seeks to interact. If the level of maturity is not high enough, the race would seek to conquer and control. If it is high and well evolved, the race would seek benevolent interaction. We are not talking about simple organisms here, mate, we are talking about sentient beings. A completely different situation.
Or their desire could be to see how we are coming along with our evolution. To see if we are growing up or stagnating and regressing. Depends on the maturity of such a race. You are trying to put them all in the same basket which is false. Some would be benevolent, some malevolent, while others totally apathetic to us, the human race. Only spiritually immature races seek to conquer through warring.
It does make sense as i have explained earlier. There is nothing more to be explained.

mazaje:
You keep making very uninformed statements, I really didn not ant to engage you but the misinformation and nonsense you have been writing made me to jump in and make some things clear. . .Jupiter does NOT protect the earth from any asteroid. . In fact Jupiter increases risk of comet strike on Earth. . .

Contrary to prevailing wisdom, Jupiter does not protect Earth from comet strikes. In fact, Earth would suffer fewer impacts without the influence of Jupiter's gravity, a new study says. It could have implications for determining which solar systems are most hospitable to life.

A 1994 study showed that replacing Jupiter with a much smaller planet like Uranus or Neptune would lead to 1000 times as many long-period comets hitting Earth. This led to speculation that complex life would have a hard time developing in solar systems without a Jupiter-like planet because of more intense bombardment by comets.

But a new study by Jonathan Horner and Barrie Jones of Open University in Milton Keynes, UK, shows that if there were no planet at all in Jupiter's orbit, Earth would actually be safer from impacts.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn12532-jupiter-increases-risk-of-comet-strike-on-earth.html

By the way asteroids have hit earth in the past. . .The earth is NOT the only habitable planet in the universe that harbors life, as of now we have not fully developed the mechanism for detecting life in other parts of the universe. read about the space observatories and their limitations. . .

newmi:
It is not a question of "should they fall" because that has an underlining implication to mean that people have a role in the process that led to their falling, rather the question should be "why or what makes or is responsible for making people fall when hands are laid on them".
AND MIND YOU IT IS NOT AN EXCLUSIVE EVENT THAT HAPPENS ONLY WHEN A "PASTOR" LAYS HIS HANDS ON SOMEONE BECAUSE IN THE FIRST PLACE PEOPLE DON'T FALL BECAUSE THE ONE DOING THE HANDS LAYING IS MERELY A PASTOR(with all due respect) I HAVE HAD PEOPLE FALL WHEN HANDS WHERE LAID ON THEM AND YET AM NOT A "PASTOR" BECAUSE YOU SEE THESE THINGS ARE NOT THE DOINGS OF A MAN BUT AN EXCLUSIVE MANIFESTATION OF THE BENEVOLENCE AND OPERATIONS OF GOD'S SPIRIT.
ALSO ANOTHER IMPORTANT NOTE IS THAT PEOPLE DON'T FALL (that is when they do because they don't also have to fall for anyone to be convinced something divine has taken or is taking place) ONLY WHEN HANDS ARE LAID ON THEM EVEN WHEN NO HANDS ARE LAID AT ALL FROM HUGE DISTANCES BRCAUSE GOD IS A SPIRIT AND DOES NOT RECOGNIZE THE LIMITATIONS THAT ARE INDICATIVE AND PECULIAR TO MAN

numo86:
@fx, falling down is not and is never a sign of 1 who is filled with d holyspirit, all the fallings today are just charades done by d churches to get more customers,
Now ask urself:::what does d falling accomplish, d holyspirit is given to us to preach about Gods kingdom to d world not to roll on d floor like mad dogs,
Let d churches stop this 5hit and preach d truth and anticipate Gods kingdom,
In d long run u'l see d truth of this falling happenin in todays churches,
I just want u to examine d country in which people fall all d time claiming d holyspirit has overwhelmed them, look @ how corrupt 9ja is, when they fall down on sunday they immediately stand up on monday to cheat d hell out of there associates, kill,and embessle money,
Why don't they make our ogboni  politicians fall on d floor with holyspiritwhy is it always d poor that will roll on d floorwhyyyyyyyy??
Its all gibberish, Gods kingdom is by d corner,these trick stars will all answer questions from Jesus, matthew 7:21-23 tells us,

omowhyou:
make them pay jere, at least we dey pay tithe. na d same thing joor

Anchorra:
Posted by: FXKing2012

If certain things come naturally, should we be then exercize any form of restraint with these natural impulses?
Adam found Eve's poohsie naturally. So what was God's problem?
I care about religious people who are deep and logical. No need to fear them.
I just don't care for their bigotry, insolence and hypocrisy.

Jenwitemi:
There are many other reasons why a very advanced alien civilization may not want to interact with us and one of those reasons(which i actually had in mind) could be that we humans are just not spiritually evolved and matured enough to be worth interacting with. One of the many signs of immaturity is WARFARE which the history of the human race in general is repleted with. Warring is a sign of immaturity and that is what may be keeping them away from making contact with us. We need to grow up first before they can communicate and interact with us.

newmi:
Even as a child not knowing much in scripture my mother thought us how to give; tithes, offerings, and even sowing into the life of the pastor and more importantly praying for the pastor and as l grew l particularly observed certain previlleges l enjoyed you knon certain preferences and inexplicable deliverances from accidents, sicknesses, and even mass victimization. Its really amazing

sheldon123:
The link that @jacobscros shared is a link to an awesome video of an American female preacher. The whole church fell under the power without her even touching anybody.

numo86:
The woman bein a female pastor shows how fake her ministry is and d attendants are,
A woman blows and everybody falls, lwkmd!!!
Jesus will realy tell these trick stars "get away ,I never knew u,u workers of iniquity",