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FOLYKAZE:
You meant the adulterated verse? See the one posted by maynman

The one posted by . maynman is same as in the Bible. It does not say Yahweh is one of the sons of El. Would you point out where it said so?

Kobojunkie:
So, it is not equally logically impossible for a bush to be cursed, a human to be a demon or a mythical snake to exist?

2. Attah of Igala fables you mean?
https://kogireports.com/deed-of-cession-attah-igala-sold-lands-in-lokoja-others-to-queen-of-england-for-700000-cowries/

Calling history myths or fables don't negate the fact the history is history.

[quote author=FOLYKAZE post=126479661][/quote]This very does not in anyway point Yahweh as the son of God.

You need to try harder and find the verse justifying the claims you alluded to.

FOLYKAZE:
This is not a new idea...

Abraham knew El, not Yahweh.

Yahweh declared he is one of the sons of God, and that he inherited Israel according to the bible

Will you please point to that Bible verse where Yahweh declared Himself as one of the sons of God? I'll be waiting earnestly for this.

Kobojunkie:
Interesting you are against this fable but the fable regarding a mythical cursed bush, mythical demon human passing as a king, mythical snakes, and a voodoo priest posed as a pastor somehow battling and destroying them all, you seem comfortable okay accepting as fact? Nonsense!

I can be against the fable because it's logically impossible for Adam who existed before Mohammed to be created because of Mohammed.

Your opinion about the story being mythical is your personal delusion. You call it mythical because in your atheistic mind, you don't believe in the supernatural.

Read about the Attah of Igala and come back here to tell me that the supernatural does not exist! The story shared is part of the many supernatural happenings in the life and times of Babalola which are part of CAC history.

Go on an investigative journey to Odo Ọwá mountain in Kwara state. They'll show you things that are still visibly verifiable which are all results of the supernatural acts that followed Babalola's Ministry.

The myths are only in your head. In reality, they're history.

FOLYKAZE:
Yahweh is known in Canaan as one of the seventy sons of El.

In a sense, the Israelites are Canaanites too since Abraham spent most of his later life in Canaan. During those times, he influenced many friends, some of them such as Moreh were very prominent people. They even assisted him in the war against Chedorlaomer and the 3 other kings. He influenced 300 servants of his, including Eliezar of Damascus. He married several wives after the death of Sarah and had many children. Each of these know the God of Abraham. They became nations with varying degrees of knowledge and understanding of the God they serve. Over time, they could evolve several ideologies regarding the God they serve. This one of the 70 sons of El is just one of such ideologies.

sagenaija:
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This is Islam for you!!
So many Tales From Arabia, and Empiree and other apologists friends of his will claim that it all makes sense to them.
And where they cannot answer they run for cover or give the usual disclaimer: "Allah knows best".

Allah even claimed somewhere that Mohamed made him create Adam. It was said that:
Allah said: O Adam, I have forgiven you, and were it not for Muhammad I would not have created you."

Lol.
TenQ come see something o. Na mohammed.make allah create Adam? Antichristian, na so e be? Chai!!

SIRTee15:
He's lost.
I gave up on him the day he justified sex change in children. He claim children are only aware of themselves as a person and we adults are the one pushing girl/boy concept into their heads.
U can imagine such reprobate thinking. I must say atheism is a disease of the mind.

Chai!! I didn't know he has such debased ideologies. So, he's so depraved? No wonder. Atheism is indeed a disease of the mind. One shouldn't be surprised at his conducts.

Maynman:
Mental psychosis, your god is an isrealite god just as Zeus is a Greek god, you have been praying to a dummy idol.

Go on Google, Look up how "Yahweh became God".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdKst8zeh-U?si=RX93Q-qnshhEK4ZJ

Sirtea15, can you see a practical example of what I said. I have made a very simple post without insulting anyone. Simply because he disagrees, his first words to me are "mental psychosis'. You see why you must shun such a dark soul?

SIRTee15:
Continue dragging your parents to shame. Shameless fool
That's what u get when u fail to instill Godliness into your kids.

Avoid any discussion with maynman at all cost. The discussions usually lead no where. He's very rude and immature. A very bitter soul who always seeks to insult and abuse Christians during discussions. He'll then come back to say you started it first, when you accuse him of being toxic.

A simple talk such as 'ask your parents' which could have delivered such a response as 'I'm mature and knowledgeable enough to unravel matters by myself. Why should I ask my parents?' Or, I need an answer from you, not from my parents' is what led him to start calling your parents Jewish slaves.

The other day, I was discussing with him and told him about a babyfish caught by Russians in the 90s during the gulf war. I actually thought he'll be aware of the incident but he claimed nothing of such happened. I told him that we could retrieve the information from the archives of national dailies or he could ask elders around. He replied me that his elders are not liars like mine. Can you imagine? Every conversation I have ever had with him always ends with insults. He wouldn't even bulge if you're not replying him back with insults. He'll continue until you're pushed to the wall. He's such a dark soul with a very devilish mind. That shouldn't come as a surprise since he's godless, he cannot be any better. However, I must admit that there are atheists who behave more maturely and engage in mutually respectful conversations on this platform. Maynman is not the case. After a few lines of discussion, you'll find out he's not worth the engagement. Shun him from henceforth.

FOLYKAZE:
What Bible are you talking about? The conjoined propaganda? If you want to read the chronicles then get yourself the Apocryphal books, not the concorted lies and fabrications in your 66books you call Bible.

And how many times do I have to tell you that Israelites do not have land? They were wanderers, Shasu and worshipper of the desert God yahweh.

Let's set the records straight.

There's a city in Palestine called Jerusalem. There are still others like Bethlehem, Galiliee, etc. These are very ancient cities. If Israel had no land in Palestine, why do these lands have Hebrew names? Why is it that Biblical sites and artifacts are being uncovered there by archeology. Perhaps I didn't understand your point. Kindly clarify.

It's understandable if the kings of Egypt called the Israelites Sashu and wanderers. They were actually wanderers when they came into Egypt. They had no nation according to the Bible. They were 70 in number who came in from Luz in Mesopotamia. They wandered until they settled briefly in Luz, also called Bethel. During the seven year famine, they found their way into Egypt as a family of 70 people who came for assylum in Egypt on the invitation of Pharaoh. Jacob their father, an old man at the time was also in the company. So, a family that later grew into a large population after long stay in a place would certainly be given a name by the indigenes. It's
no brainer that the Egyptians call them Sashu. They were wanderers before coming to Egypt. Became sojourners while in Egypt, and became Israelites after leaving Egypt.

Now, is Yahweh a desert God simply because He's worshipped by desert people (Edomites, Moabotes and Ammonites) ? No. Note that Israel, Edom, Moab and Ammon were brethren. They all worship Yahweh but have varying understanding of Him. Each depict Him differently. Abraham was the grandfather of both Edom (Esau) and Israel (Jacob). Abraham was the father figure of Lot through whom the Moabites and the Ammonites descended. All serve the same God through the influence of Abraham but have varying knowledge of Him. Some of them even have a depiction of Him as an idol. All of these nations were Canaanites. So, the depiction of Yahweh as a Canaanite God is well understood. However He's not.

jaephoenix:
Lol. I see youre as retarded in everyday convo as well as religious. I have explained why i have this handwriting. And from what I read here, I'm not the only one. You owe docs an apology for your accusation but knowing u, the sun has to turn to ice before you think of it. Good night

Lol. I see you're as retarded in everyday convo as well as religious. You are even a misfit for your profession. Stating that you learnt the handwriting from med school to re-echo what I already stated did not add any value to the conversation. I even added more value to help you know why you learnt what you learnt, but being a dullard, you didn't seem to grasp anything. I owe docs no apology since you never explained anything. Who doesn't know you learnt it from med school? No one asked you to explain why you have the handwriting, the purpose of the handwriting is the crux of the matter. You're just too dull. You owe me an apology for your insults but knowing u, the sun has to turn to ice before you think of it. Good night.

jaephoenix:
Did you read the part of my earlier post where I said I changed it to adapt to the rigors of the training, during classes and ward rounds?
Do you experience this lapse in memory everyday or are you getting senile dementia everyday?

Did you read the part where I asked why you had to learn a new form of writing? Why you just had to be taught some new handwriting? To what purpose? While I know it's a deliberate measure to prevent patients from being able to read in order to avoid self medication which obviously have dire consequences, perhaps you don't even know, otherwise you would have included that in your defence. The sarcastic comment about 'docs collecting your money' was what irked you. You never stated the Purpose for your learning a new handwriting. Or you didn't read that part of my comment? You probably forgot. Do you experience this lapse in memory everyday or are you getting senile dementia everyday?

jaephoenix:
If u understand English I said I learned to write this way from med school and it has stuck with since then me whether I'm writing at work or anywhere.
Should I type in your native language for you to understand ?

It was not your normal writing. It is part of your professional training which has now become second nature to you. The question is, why must you learn a new way to write in the first place? Why must you abandon your normal handwriting for a new illegible one? Do I have to write in your native language for you to understand?

jaephoenix:
Dude, thats the same handwriting we use, whether work or personal. I talk for myself anyway.
So why is explaining patient rights to a patient balderdash? U well so?

You well so? Why contradicting yourself? After saying yo learnt to write that way in med school, you still come out to say it's your normal handwriting. Don't you reason before you talk?

jaephoenix:
I knew you'll apply the poor logical reasoning you apply in religious matters in your daily life.
Those handwritings are learned right from med school. Mine was right from pharmacology classes. Also from ward rounds. You have to keep up with rapid words of the lecturer or consultant. And s/he won't repeat himself for anyone. If you snooze, you lose.
And you as a patient reserve the rights to ask your doc the names and reasons for the drugs you take. Also ask for side effects. We are under obligations to tell you. If the doc declines, you can report or sue him or her

I know you'll apply your flawed logical reason to my response the way you do all religious matters.

Didn't you see I wrote that those handwritings are part or the training? Why did you have to learn a separate kind of writing from med school? Telling me I have the obligation to ask the doc is balderdash. Why the doc must write in a separate way from his normal handwriting is the only way to answer question.

Kukutente23:
Seems you've mixed things up. Tinubu's fight was for democracy not environment like Saro Wiwa.
You gave that as example of people who were threatened so I explained the difference to you

Of course, people who were fighting for democracy then were regarded as a threat, and the military juntas were after them. The military could seek anyone out for any offence under heaven, and usually, the person's life may go for it.

So, for whatever reason Tinubu was threatened, and for whatever time he ran away; his life remained under threat throughout the military era. Al mustaoha or no Al mustapha.

For example, if Tinubu ran because he came under threat for fighting democracy before Al mustapha became a major player. His life remained threatened even after Al mustapha became a major player because he was still a blood sucking demon like the rest of them. He would'nt dare return home. The suffering continues.

Kukutente23:
Look. Saro Wiwa was not killed for fighting for democracy. A lot of you get things mixed up because you were not of age then. He was killed for activism for Ogoni cleanup which the then govt labeled treason.
Secondly, things fell apart totally between the democracy group and the military junta around 1995. That's when the killings began. Tinubu had already left Nigeria then. I'm not saying he was not in exile but he did not leave because his life was under threat. A good number of those whose lives were threatened were either killed, imprisoned, beaten up or threatened. I don't have record of any of those happening to him.

I did not even state the reason why Ken Saro Wiwa was killed. Did I? The military back then killed for many reasons. Your life could be threatened for any reason whatsoever. Or, did I ever say it was for democracy? I don't know where you got that from.

Kukutente23:
And tinubu told you he was running from Al-Mustapha?
Some of them left because the democracy failed not necessarily because their lives were under threat. Tinubu for example was part of those who held series of meetings with the military junta and he left after those meetings broke down. Al-Mustapha was not yet in the business of killing people then.

No. It wasn't so. Soldiers were actually sent after Tinubu. Gani Fawehinmi also suffered. Ken Saro Wiwa was hung on the gallows. Ran because democracy failed? You don't understand. I've forgotten the full details about Tinubu. He wasn't a prominent figure back then. But he was actually under threat. No one runs just because democracy failed. You'll still visit home regularly if that is the case. You wouldn't be in self exile just because democracy failed.

Enemyofpeace:
Can you read this handwriting? Does anyone understand what is written on the prescription form? Do they write like this deliberately for patients not to understand what they wrote?

They don't want you to know the drugs, so that you wouldn't go and buy them for yourself next time you have the same ailment. They must keep collecting your money each time you consult them. They're trained to write like that. The pharmacists are also trained to be able to read it clearly.

Kukutente23:
What year did Tinubu travel out

I can't remember again. That was in the 90s when everyone including Wole Soyinka were running for dear life.

Kukutente23:
And you know if Was because of Al-Mustapha precisely?

It was during the Abacha - NADECO era. Al mustapha waa a key player during those times.

Kukutente23:
Can you detail how exactly Tinubu suffered in the hands of Al-Mustapha

Aren't you aware that Tinubu went into self exile during those years when his life was under threat?

FOLYKAZE:
I saw the video on Al Jazeera today.

Okay. They might replay it. I've not had the time to watch any news today.

FOLYKAZE:
That is because you want to see only content that vilified Palestinians..

I don't even search for Palestinian contents. I watch Aljazera more than any other news channel, and I've never seen the said video.

Kobojunkie:
I did my own baptism in the bath tub with no chances of drowning and God accepted it for what it is.

You baptised yourself? Lol. You must be a comedian.

FOLYKAZE:
Yes. I saw videos where Israelites attacked Palestinians with a knife and shouting they own the whole territory. Reiterating that those who cannot abide by the seven law of Torah should be exiled or killed. Both sides are hateful.. Let us be sincere here

I'm not saying both sides are not hateful. They both are.

I've never seen any video as the one you claimed. If such a video exists, then, it could be that of some extremists because both Israelis and Palestinians know they do not own the whole territory.

JuanDeDios:
So the head of state was personally instructing a sergeant on who to kill. You're funny.

What's funny? When did I ever say that?

Abacha instructs Al mustapha and Al mustapha passes the instructions to Rogers. Who doesn't know this?

FOLYKAZE:
Total annihilation of Israel, that is another dimension.

The real contention here, you admitted there is no way there will be no conflict, guess even with the two state solution been proffered by outsiders.

The argument on the sides of the Palestinians is that own the whole space Israel people occupy today..

The claim of them owning the whole place is premised on the fact that they don't want Isreal's existence at all. It is an enmity that has been there for millennia. It didn't start in 1948. That's why the two state solution is rejected by Palestinians. The want the whole place. The standard is 'Death to Israel.' Have you ever seen Israelis shouting 'Death to Palestinians'?

JuanDeDios:
Are you kidding?

That's the truth bro.

nairalanda1:
All you have said does not make his appointment right.

Other people exist who do not have the same taint. Make them appoint them

Well, you're right but Tinubu should know better because he himself suffered so much in the hands of this man back in the days. He would have died if he had not run for his life.

KnownUnknown:
Here’s another slavish devotee of Hebrew nonsense. They keep trying to paint the Jews as victims even as they kill and destroy while being backed by the most powerful military on earth.

This shit would be funny if people weren’t being killed and suffering.

Who cares about your opinion? You can only cry for as long as you may.

Both the Israelites and Palestinians are always at each other's throats. Israel is the one on constant defence mode because while they're ready to tolerate the Palestinians, the Palestinians are not ready to tolerate them. Palestinians and Israelis constantly fight and kill themselves. The Palestinians often are the ones who stage violent attacks to which Israelis retaliate with raids. Go and find honest reports about these people. Stop being fed by propagandists.