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Floky215:
Anybody who don't know TB was a crook from very beginning should have his hewr checked..!!

There are other moslem men as well who claimed to have converted and hitting it big in the church scam as well..!!

Don't mind those paid propagandists defending the false prophet. They need the money very badly and so they must get it even if it means to abuse people and post deceptions on Social Media. It's too obvious those guys hate the truth. It's just too obvious.

Dtruthspeaker:
Do you not see how lordReed denies and twists clear Truths? Atheists are Satanist and Satanism is the belief in lies and denying/denial of Truths.

If you push and argue with an atheists too much he would even deny that he is a human being stupidly asking you "how do you know you are human? And what is the proof?"

Very mad and unreasonable people.

You're right. I have once argued with an atheist regarding the evidence of a spirit world. Once the atheist was defeated, he went on to say that atheists actually believe that spirits do exists, they just don't believe in the existence of God. Then, on another occasion after that argument was long past, he began to vehemently argue again that the spirit realm does not exist. Very hypocritical set of individual who enjoy living in self deceit to the detriment of their own souls.

[quote author=LordReed post=128039346]

1 Thessalonians 4
15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.

[quote]How can 'we who are still alive' be referring to people who weren't alive at that time?

No one knows for certain when the Lord would come. The timeline could begin and start in one's lifetime. It's always logical to speak in the present and to live as though Christ would come today. That's the very reason Christ didn't give a specific day. So that we may live and walk as though He's coming today. There wasn't any indication that the man of sin would not be revealed even in Paul's day. So, he must speak in such a way that his hearers wouldn't lose their guard by postponing the day of the Lord in their minds. We still speak like that today because no one knows the hour or the time.

Are you telling me there were no scoffers at the time the book was written?

There were no scoffers who mocked the second coming.

1 Peter 4
7 The end of all things is near. Therefore be alert and of sober mind so that you may pray.

How does near now translate to thousands of years?

Revelation 22
12 “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done.

Soon is now thousands of years? How?! Why would someone who is coming in thousands of years claim he is coming soon? Was he lying?

BTW you said it was Jesus who gave the timeline so where is the timeline Jesus gave and show where he said it would take thousands of years.

Soon in God's piece is not a measurement of the earthly time. In the Spirit realm, there's nothing called time. Everything is just a Now thing. Events are always Now events. Time is not measured. There are no days. There's only a day. No night and day. Just a day. It's been a day with God since the second coming was promised. That day is still running. Meanwhile, man has counted thousands of years.

God lives in Eternity. Man lives in time. In Eternity, even 10,000 years is still soon. It's just like a few seconds.

LordReed:
What timeline? Did he say it would take thousands of years? Why did people like Paul and the author of the book of Peter think it was going to happen in their lifetime?

Both Peter and Paul actually made it plain that the coming of Christ won't happen anytime soon.

Paul in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8 said:

"1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming"

Note:
The Lord would come at the height of the wickedness of the man of sin to destroy him with the brightness of His coming. The revelation of the man of sin is at the tale end of the timeline.

Peter said in 2 Peter 3:1-10

"1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:

2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

Notes:

Can you see how in verse 3, Peter accurately prophesied concerning you scoffers and saying exactly what you would say in your mockery in verse 4?

The verses 3 and 4 are saying that scoffers would come up and say that Christ is not coming. "He has been prophesied thousands of years and the earth still remains the way it has been. Many people who heard that Christ is coming have fallen asleep (died) but till now no Christ has appeared." They'll say so because they're ignorant of God's timeline and are also unaware of God's reluctance to destroy the world. He keeps waiting for people to repent. He'll wait until the man of sin appears to completely take over the earth. The coming of Christ would be to destroy him and recover the earth from satanic destruction.

When we look at the timeline, we'll see many prophecies that have been fulfilled while others remain future. We know what to anticipate as Christians as the world draws to a close.

LordReed:
Of course they and they will fail till the end of time because Jesus is not going to come back. Whether you set a date or not, it's an event that will never happen.

Jesus gave a timeline of events leading to His coming. Why are those events happening as foretold?

Maynmaynmayn:
stop basing yoir life on books you lack knowledge on.

Stop meddling in matters you are not knowledgeable about.

Maynmaynmayn:
If you don't condemn yourself, you won't need salvation.


Don't pity Muslims, pity yourself and the guilt they've indoctrinated you with.

Stop meddling in issues you know nothing about.

TenQ:
One would first need to uninstall the virus of Islam from their soul and spirit before installing the gospel of Christ unto their salvation.

Chai!!

RightChanneI:
Let me tag this guy again..

FxMasterz take a look at the bolded above

Well, I went through the video, I must confess that a lot of things didn't add up.

1. TB Joshua levelled a lot of accusations against the girl but never gave the girl a single room to say anything.

2. Most people in the forum didn't know Ajoke was an adopted child. That's why Joshua was bringing out paper documents to prove the adoption case to them. Meanwhile, the mother of Collins in far away Ghana is asking Collins "At your age? An adopted child?" How did Collins and/or his mother know she was adopted? It makes it look as if the Collins matter waa arranged. Just a speculation though. Not necessarily so. But it gives rooms for doubts.

3. The allegation of following boys around and even sending them weird messages and phone calls is not common with girls. Girls, no matter how pervert rarely behave like that. If this Ajoke case was true, then, that's a very rare case.

4. The guy who spoke last, Joseph by name also gave rooms for doubts. This is why:

Joshua suddenly said "Joseph, what do you want to say?" Meanwhile Joseph never signified that he wanted to say something. Then, the words of Joseph gave him out:

"People here see Ajoke as a big girl because of the love that daddy showed her more than that of a biological daughter. Those of us that have been long here and saw her since she was a baby knew how she was misbehaving in school. They'll complain about her and daddy would withdraw her, put her in another school, withdraw her, put her in another school. So, all these I'm hearing about her I[b]'m surprised, I'm surprised.[/b] (Paraphrased.)

The question is nobody talks the way Joseph talked. If you have known about the waywardness of a child for long, what are you surprised about concerning the report you're now hearing? I think the right word there should be "I'm not surprised at all. I'm not surprised. I'm aware of how daddy has tried on her and how she has been misbehaving from a tender age. I'm not surprised at all." That 'I'm surprised' statement makes his talk look mechanical.

There are other observations I made but let me limit it to these 4 above.

While my observations may not disprove SCOAN, they point out the need for more investigation to unravel the root of the matter. A DNA test would put this matter to rest.

In conclusion, I think Ajoke indeed stole from the British school. She said in her BBC confession that she was maltreated starting from age 7. From that level of maltreatment she spoke about, a child can start engaging in all manner of vices. The documents show she actually stole but a further convincing statement about the matter from the school can go a long way. This is an important matter of global interest.

Another truth is that all those papers could be arranged. I'm saying this only because of those things that I saw in the video that did not add up. I'm not saying Joshua arranged them but actually, a DNA test is necessary. Even the incident of a baby under a truck can be arranged. A DNA test is very important.

But, to speak the truth, this video lowers the suspicion on TB Joshua regarding Ajoke's paternity, however, it doesn't completely absolve him. A DNA test would do justice to the matter.

I'll commend SCOAN for coming out with this piece. Let them bring out the evidences they have against the accusers and let the accusers also bring theirs. Truth is all we want.

I have severally asked you about the adoption papers and police report in all my posts. You remember all the gymnastics you were doing. Even abusing me because of such normal requests. Now that SCOAN has brought out a video that shows such papers exist, would you now appreciate my foresight and apologize for your own errors?

In the end, let the name of the Lord Jesus be glorified, and let the enemies of the Kingdom be put to shame.

Farewell.

TenQ:
Islam is controlled by the Chief spirit of deception hence Muslims are blinded to the truth: they even despise the truth even when they know it.

It is like spiritual handcuff with the sole aim of misleading them to hell

That means, for a Muslim to be saved, he needs deliverance from the spirit of deception.

TenQ:
Of course. Allah and Mohammed are pseudonyms

Muslims are supposed to spot the red flag immediately Mohammed assumed 99 names like Allah. It doesn't matter whether he attributed those names to himself or they where given to him by others. It makes the deception even more glaring.