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dalitigator:
I recently stumbled on some books that were excluded from both the Old and New Testaments of the Bible, and I cannot help but agree with our Muslim brethren that the Bible has been greatly revised, and some books, chapters and information were excluded for reasons best known to persons or entities who either advised it or outrightly did so.

Just like the Psalms of David, which is a powerful book, there is also the Psalms of Solomon, which was excluded from the Canonical Bible for reasons I do not understand. I have read excerpts of the complete books of Ecclesacities and some other books of the Old Testament, such as the books of Judith, Gilgamesh and Enoch, which are all powerful books.

Thus, my question. Why were these books excluded from the Bible?

Do you know why?

kobojunkie

You can't say that books were excluded from the Bible because there was no Bible until the Nicean council sat in 325 AD.

Instead, you should say why are some books not included as part of the Bible?

The formation of the Bible books took a very stringent process because at the time, almost everybody had something to write. So many lies and distorted accounts of events were flying around. Many of those lies didn't make it to the Bible because the Nicean fathers only included books whose authenticity and source they could confirm. Books without known sources were not included. Most New Testament books included were books written by the Apostles or their direct disciples. No matter how powerful a book may seem, if it does not fulfil certain criteria, it never made its way into the Bible. And when you look at the Bible, there's a rhyme in its theme. The books work in unison to announce God's plan of salvation and how He laboured hard through His Son to execute the plan for the human race whom He dearly loves.

The Muslims lie to themselves that the Bible has been edited several times, don't embrace their lies. Whenever they say that, they refer to the many English versions of the Bible that exists. But they do not seem to remember that the Bible wasn't written in English originally, and that the various English versions remain true to the original Greek and Hebrew languages in which the Bible was written. For example, the Hebrew Bible has an Old testament version that is both used by Christians and Jews. These sects are not religiously united. If Christians have edited their Bible, then, it would no longer correlate with the ones the Jews are carrying. Since Christians and Jews are using the same Old testament scriptures till date, the Islamic lies fall flat.

Moreover, the current Bible in use was what Mohammed preached to Muslims that they must respect. I mean the Bible that was collated in 325 Ad which did not include many other books for which reason you claim it has been edited according to your post.
Nothing has changed. Mohammed came into the picture about 200+ years after the Bible was canonized, and he enjoined Muslims to respect the same scripture which Muslims believe was edited even before Mohammed was born.

Above all, note that Jesus loves you. He came to earth purposely because of you to take your place in judgement. If you accept the offer of Jesus today, your sins would be forgiven. The righteousness of Jesus would be attributed to you and you would become a child of God. You would no longer be held accountable for your sins because Jesus paid on your behalf.

No religion saves, including Christianity. Only Jesus saves. Come to Him and you'll have eternal life.

Please stay away from the satanist kobojunkie whom you mentioned in your post. He's a satanic agent. A wolf in sheep clothing who seeks to hinder and obstruct the way of Christ.

May the peace of God be with you and guide your path into the everlasting Kingdom of God and of our Lord Jesus Christ.

paxonel:
certainly!
And that is only if it was actually a miracle.

But what if the atheist eventually discover that all these was a plan to get him fall into control, do you think that he will see God operating in Love anymore?

That's why, whatever we do, we should do it rightly
so,you think that there are no fake pastors that go the extra length to research for these information themselves only to come and prophesy to client's what they have research in order to eliminate doubt?

I'm telling you what i have seen before, i don't need to start telling telling you stories.
Perhaps you have not heard of any such thing before does not mean they do not exist
you judge this!
Using charm or familiar spirits and making enquiry about a person which is relatively simpler?
you really cannot be so sure about the op whether he is saying the truth or not because you were not there yourself and cannot categorically defend him.
I expected him to come out and defend himself here, but he has gone into hiding
incase you don't know!
There are constant radai communication between any vessel about leaving a terminus in one country with it destination. Infact, technology has made things so easy this days that an importer or merchant hardly stays an hour without getting the first hand information about his incoming goods from the port authorities.
So, this one the op is coming to tell us lies that he lost contact with his goods. It's either the story itself is fake or it happens and he didn't get the enough orientation to follow the appropriate steps in order to get his information rightly, then the pastor now did the research for him.
Getting information about any vessel at the port is very easy, just provide the vessel's name and reg number with evidence that you have a container in there, they will track the vessel and tell you it current location, even a security man there knows everything. Only that one cannot get access to the shores where the goods are discharged.
The highest that will happen is lost of container identity which can be sorted out appropriately from the stock records.
But you see that thing called vessel itself, only wreckage can cause loss of contact which hardly happens.
it is the story itself that is full of loopholes

I don't know to what end you're fighting this brother's testimony. Do you want to disprove his belief in God? You want him to discard the testimony and remain an atheist?

I don't have the time for unnecessary chatter. Even if a merchant gets minute by minute update about the movements of a vessel, can he certainly predict where it would be exactly in 2 weeks and it would be so? Even to the specific day?

Secondly, fake pastors don't spend money researching an individual. I've told you the two ways they do it. With familiar spirits, they can get instant information about someone without spending a dime or wasting time. Whatever medium they use, either logic or charms, they do so for instant gratification. No fake pastor gives you a word of prayer or prophecy and leaves his investment to chance hoping that you'll come to his church one day and give tithe. Do you really even understand what you're saying?

If a fake pastor gives you false ministry, he bills you instantly. In the case of the OP, he'll give him a prophecy about the past to get the OP.to trust him. Afterwards, he's going to tell you that spiritual forces are holding the containers and you'll have to give God some offerings for the containers to be released. That's how they operate.

Please stop supporting satanic agenda against God's work. If your aim is to discourage others about the possibilities that exist in Christ Jesus, just keep at it. You'll have your reward.

No matter how much you fight against the works of God, the church of God would keep waxing strong and God would save those whom He'll save. Your antagonistic stance notwithstanding.

The theories you have been postulating are logically nauseating. I can't even imagine that a pastor would be making underground research on someone to get at him. Even making long distance calls to an overseas merchant. The merchant provides the pastor the information that he couldn't provide his client. The pastor now knows better about the shipment from the merchant than the very client who bought the consignment. What type of logic is that?

I'm done with this talk. I have better things to spend time on. No matter what man does, God will continue to work, and Jesus would never stop saving the lost until the consummation of all things.

Farewell.

Read the remaining part of the confession on the following link. The link on page one of this thread is no longer available online:

https://www.remnantofgod.org/sister2.htm

OKOATA:
What Jesus' main warning through Paul, was that if you hear people denying his name, those are anti-christ, he says for you to avoid them. Calling a man of God ( TB Joshua) a satanic, what and what. It's wrong and it isn't true.

Every child of God is unique and has special ministration gift, you are unique in your own way, being born again, no one is like you. So TB Joshua being an ordained man of God has his ways of preaching to his brethren, by edifying them with his words.

To call him satanic, then you're keeping yourself to be condemned because every man of God is sanctified by the Holy Spirit.

He's Satanic. We've been saying this for a very long time. Some of you who call yourselves christians don't even have spiritual discernment. TB Joshua's satanism is very obvious. Too obvious. I don't understand why many of you can't see.

Another woman from Athens has narrated her ordeal at the hands of wiseman Andrea and the satanic role TB Joshua played in the whole drama with the help of wiseman Harris who is now falsely defending TB Joshua.

I can't say much about Evelyn at the moment. I don't know her. I've never heard her preach. I don't know what she does. She might be genuine. Not following the pattern of her husband. But TB Joshua was a false prophet. It was clear from the very beginning. All these expose we're seeing now are actually expected. We knew that once he dies his oath of secrecy would no longer hold on his victims and his secrets would be revealed. But actually, we heard that he committed suicide when he got the news that BBC was investigating him. He should have waited to face the allegations.

SCOAN should sue BBC and call for a DNA test on Ajoke if they don't have any skeleton in their cupboard.

Many others apart from those interviewed by BBC are coming out to expose the man.

I pity anyone still defending the false prophet.

paxonel:
but per adventure at the long run he will end up becoming his member and start paying tithe that is based on his huge income, would that not be beneficial enough and worth the stress of carrying out a long research?
call it ridiculous it doesn't matter, who cares?
So long they have achieved their aim.
It is now competition among pastors, do you know how many pastors that are cashing out big time from a growing congregation that is full of wealthy people?
These people have testimonies of one or two miracles they had believed God has used these pastors to intervene in their situations
ok
you are yet to know what these pastors are capable of doing
whatever gift it is, i still believe that no gift of miracle should be used in vain.

God cannot possibly reveal the op to the pastor when the aim is not to win the op back to Christ

You don't seem to understand how God operates

God operates in love and uses love to draw us to Himself.

From being an atheist, God can use this miracle to break the OP's atheistic belief and turn him unto Christ.

God performs miracles for various reasons. At the bottom of it all is LOVE.

Most people who think a pastor has the time to be researching people to tell them fake prophecies are funny. Even fake pastors don't operate like that. They either use logic or use charms.

For example, someone comes to a pastor and says I don't have a husband at 40. The pastor asks, where's your mother? Oh, my mum is dead. What about your grandma? She's in the village. The next thing is your grandma is a witch and she's the one responsible for your other's death. She doesn't want you to marry. That's how fake pastors do who use logic to deceive.

The. Other fake pastors can operate through charms. Using familiar spirits, they'll inquire about the person's past and then tell him a false future prophesy. For example, "oh, this sickness came upon you when you visited your village some 6 months ago. That night you had a dream... " Bla, bla, bla. The pastor would be correct and the miracle seeker would be awed. Then, he'll tell the miracle seeker a fake prophecy about the future and use it as an avenue to exploit him.

Above are the two categories of fake pastors and their modes of operation.

No one goes about researching someone to find out when his goods are going to arrive. Even the seller of the goods cannot predict the exact day the goods are going to arrive. What the OP experienced is the operation of the gift of the word of knowledge.

That information is above the OP and the merchant who freight forwarded the goods to the OP. So, no research can provide such accurate answers. If the merchant can answer the question, then, he would have told the OP, and the OP wouldn't need any prayers.

There are so much loopholes in your analysis.

paxonel:
are you asking this question for real?
The pastor can easily get someone who is very close to him to do the long research without him knowing, they can go to any length.
Like i have said, they are not after poor people, their targets are the wealthy.

If the op can truly sincerely ask himself this simple question, why will a sister introduced him to a pastor who knows nothing about importation of goods?
Then he will know it was a game well planned.

Perhaps someone had suggested to the sister to introduce him to the pastor without her knowing what is happening, but certainly there was a game plan somewhere.
As a matter of fact i do believe in miracles.
But what i don't believe is God not being principled, intelligent and time conscious

You see the clouds floating in the sky without falling under gravity?
You see water bodies flowing from the North to the South towards the East and back to the North in a regular cycle, or rain drops precipitating from the sky?
There are well explained principles behind these things, they are never magic or miracles.

This tells you that God does not perform any miracle without a reason.
There must be a reason why he will defile his principles to perform any miracle.
And that reason can never be vain reason like a pastor will say i want to perform a miracle to show that I'm truly a man of God.

Pastors don't play such games. For what and to what purpose? If you ask the OP, the pastor didn't collect any money from him.

If that's how pastoral work is, no one would be a pastor. Such mediums of collecting information about everyone who calls you would be so tedious, time consuming and expensive. That's very ridiculous.

Back in 2000. I was in my pastors office to use his computer while he was away. He actually travelled. We all had access to his computer. So, that day, I got to the system and wanted to use it, lo and behold, he already passworded his system. The system had no password before. I was surprised to find it passworded. But, I had something very importation and urgent to do with it. So, I couldn't just go away like that.

I sat down in front of the computer and said "Holy Spirit what's the password?" I muttered that word 3 times and heard the word "Jehovah". I entered the word and the computer opened.

Which pastor has the time to be doing research all about on people they minister to? Very ridiculous. Even the fake pastors would not do that.

Since you said you believe in miracles, go and study about the gift of the word of knowledge and the gift of prophecy.

paxonel:
You think it's funny?
This is real business here

The op just said he had a container of goods he was expecting, meaning he is already a financially established man.

Now, the op is living in a third-world poverty stricken Africa where opportunities are rarely available, so what do you expect?
Opportunitists will certainly do everything possible to take advantage of him, and whether he falls for them or not is a thing of his mind.

And would they do it?

What details does the pastor even have to conduct a research?

If you don't want to believe in miracles, it's okay. But don't justify your belief with such low level assumptions.

This is epic!

NoahHadNoArk:
20yrs ago, cell phones in Nigeria were not commonplace and not everyone owned land lines.


What contact did you collect from her?!


If you cooking up stories for testimonies could you at least make us know it’s fiction

The preacher said he got a pen from his friend to take down her number. The preacher and his friends probably had no phone but the prostitute had one.

ocnovakmichael:
Not deliberately did I assume that position. Just decided to spice up curiosity and make a hot topic such as that subtropical.

TB Joshua's synagogue is not a church. It's a cult disguised as a church. It's not a member of the body of Christ.

TD Jakes on the other hand is a true minister of the gospel who gave himself over to the devil.

paxonel:
OK,
Just want to be sure that you are the op so that i can ask some few questions :

Since you know so much about the op can you describe how the op get to know about this man of God?
Who introduced him to the op and how long have they met before now?

You see these pastors?
Before the op might have thought about it they will pretend not to know anything about the op, but meanwhile they have done thorough research about the op a long time even before the op had met with them.

This is what most Nigerian pastors are very good at doing!
The aim is to work on his psyche

So, the pastor knows about the goods the OP paid for with the OP's merchant more than the OP himself?

I don't understand the point you're trying to make. You mean a pastor would know more about the goods you ordered and even tell you its arrival date more than you yourself?

Please tell me more.

The Pastor must have done thorough research about the OP a long time before the OP met with them. Laughable. They even know that the OP would come to them. Then, they get the information about the OP's goods which the OP himself couldn't get. Lol.

paxonel:
Lets clarify this first!
the op didn't mention the exact day Tuesday on his post, or are you the op?

He did. Please read the OP again. Excerpts:

I was little redundant, but I later called him, he told me the goods will arrived on Tuesday next week..

TenQ:
More of Christ's Grace, Blessings and Favour to you this new year.
And may you be fruitful and productive all year round in Christ's mighty name.

We shall continue to reach out to them!

Amen.

May the Lord reward you abundant for this labour of love. More grace and fresh oil in Jesus name.

paxonel:
the same thing that delays shipping process for a while that every other importers do experience

So, you mean someone can ordinarily know that the delay period has expired, and that the ship would arrive on Tuesday as it did exactly?

Dtruthspeaker:
Actually, it is that they know but their pain here is because an atheists has seen one has openly confessed it.

For they know we tell them that God is good and that even they themselves have received miracles and blessings from Him even though it is scarce but they lie and deny it.

But as the op has confessed this Truth, the confession pains them especially as maybe the last time a miracle happened to them was sknce 2012, so they are also racked with pain of jealousy since they can not even hope for a miracle.

So, they are jealous of all who have miracles and can have miracles which.is why they are angry like a wolf with a thorn in its anus biting and abusing everyone who is not in pain and suffering as they are.

Lol.

You really captured these foolish atheists. They're clowns.

TenQ:
Exactly!
We should keep on pushing. We never know when their conviction would lead them to repentance.
Islam is a spirit and that is why they behave alike.

This also make me appreciate the fact that I was blessed enough to know Christ.

Indeed by His Grace we are saved..

Truly, Islam is a spirit. The adherents love same things and behave same way.

We appreciate God for showing us His love through His Son Jesus Christ.

TenQ:
Only on the anvil of Truth can the captives of Islam be set free. Unfori, they will prefer that Christians keep quiet and not speak of the flaws and deceptions in Islam

But we can't keep quiet. We love them and cannot watch them go to hell.

Even a Muslim in hell would blame his Christian neighbor for not telling him the truth. But while here on earth, the take you as enemy for attempting to deliver them from the fire.

TenQ:
Exactly.
They have told themselves lies to think that Ahad mean ONE and Taoheed mean ONENESS that the reality eludes then completely.

Without Lies, Islam dies

Hmm.

The lies have now become their truth. I see.