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AntiChristian:
Same reason the genocide occurred in Numbers 31:17-18 where only virgins were spared and even babies and infants were killed!

Also Then I heard the Lord say to the other men, 'follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked....show no mercy, have no pity!!!.. Kill them all- old and young, girls and women and little children...
Ezekiel 9 :5-7

Here the Biblical God says:
A. Show no mercy!

B. Have no pity!

C. Kill old, young, girls, women and little children!

Why?

Because they were idolaters!

Even little children?

Yes!

Another version!
And as I listened, He said to the others, “Follow him through the city and start killing; do not show pity or spare anyone! Slaughter the old men, the young men and maidens, the women and children; but do not go near anyone who has the mark!

Ehn! See the trend in Israel today!

You get eyes to read! I sent this earlier but you missed them!

The verse you quoted in Ezekiel was a vision Ezekiel had! It was not an instruction. Just like sleeping and having a dream of impending danger where you saw someone ordering people to be killed. So, you would even refer to a dream or vision to promote your propaganda? That vision Ezekiel had was God's warning to Israel for committing the same abominations that the former inhabitants had committed. God was warning them that He would bring war upon them. When they refused to hearken, He did that exactly. That was what led to the Assyrian captivity. A very just Judge, No partiality at all. Allah does not come close. He ordered you into the whole world to kill anyone who is not a muslim. That's satan. Not God.

AntiChristian:
Having a covenant with God right! Great!
When a non-muslim enters Islam he has a covenant with Allah too!

When he leaves Islam then he breaks the covenant thereby can be killed in an Islamic state after the judge's pronouncement.

So what nonsense are you saying?

Where's the witnesses I asked earlier?

Witnesses for what? You asked me for no witness. Have you provided a witness for Mohammed?

Tell me why Allah ordered you to kill people with whom he has no covenant because they're not Muslims!

AntiChristian:
I would have loved if you can provide the witnesses in the last questions I asked you!

Let's me answer your last question in a grand style!
Make sure you sent the witnesses I requested before!

1) Capital Punishment Crimes:

Kill People Who Don’t Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals
“If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)

2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication
A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, “You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord.” When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn’t a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father’s house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

Death for Blasphemy
One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD’s name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother’s name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD’s will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, “Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD’s name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD’s name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

Kill False Prophets
1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say, ‘Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,’ do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)

2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.’ You may wonder, ‘How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?’ If the prophet predicts something in the LORD’s name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)

Infidels and Gays Should Die
So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God’s death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)

Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle
For the LORD had said to Moses, ‘Exempt the tribe of Levi from the census; do not include them when you count the rest of the Israelites. You must put the Levites in charge of the Tabernacle of the Covenant, along with its furnishings and equipment. They must carry the Tabernacle and its equipment as you travel, and they must care for it and camp around it. Whenever the Tabernacle is moved, the Levites will take it down and set it up again. Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.’ (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)

Kill People for Working on the Sabbath
The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: ‘Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.’ (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

What do you think about all these?

You see how you just exposed Allah as a wicked unforgiving being?

All you quoted above were laws binding the nation of Israel who had a covenant with God, not a commandment to go and hurt outsiders. God did something for them first, then made a covenant with them and brought them into a Father and Children relationship with Him, then gave them laws of what He wants and hates. The laws are the tokens of God's covenant with His people. The punishments for breaking the laws are the punishments for breaking the covenant. That's not like Allah who did nothing for me, has no covenant with me, yet ordered you to kill me. He never even instructed you to teach me or bring me into full understanding of his ways. All he wants is for me to accept him as a god, and if I do not, I must be killed. That's Satan. That's not the Almighty God. The God of Israel instructed all Israelites to be taught from youth. Know the laws and their consequences from youth. So, if you break any law, you already know the punishments for it. The punishments were there as deterrents. No make people fear to sin. That's unlike Allah who instructed you to go kill those he sees as kafirs. That's Satan.

Which witness question did you ask? Look for witnesses for mohammed.

TenQ:
Mohammed that didn't know the difference between Jubril and Satan: he incorporated satanic verses in the Qur'an and he didn't know.

Shame!
As usual, I he told another Lie to escape the noose

Ahan! And some people would be seriously busy defending this man and killing for him? Is that not strongly demonic?

TenQ:
He rode to heaven on a donkey.

That man is a serial liar and 419. The biggest since the inception of literacy

I tell you bro.

I did this and that; Allah will do this and that for me; I saw so and so; Allah gave me so and so; In heaven, I'll be this and that; So and so said this to me; bla bla bla. He alone is the one seeing himself, and comes outside to tell antichristian that he's a prophet. God never told anyone. God never did anything remarkable to put His signature on him. Yet, the Muslims take a self professed fellow as a prophet. SMH. The lies are just too much. Very childish tales they've been so brainwashed to see as divine revelations. No one would accept many of the foolish tales if not for brainwashing. Brainwashing is a very strong thing.

AntiChristian:
You Sabi tell lies pass! I pity you more o!

Even if you get witnesses you still won't believe! There's no witness for the matters of the unseen! So rest!

You didn't see where God said all those who changed religion worshiping other gods to be killed? You're a big hypocrite! If it's Islam now you'll get muscle!

Common Israelites left Egypt with Moses and they met people living in that place. How are they the owner?



Na so the biblical Jesus and other sons of God came to impregnate many pretty ladies on earth in Genesis 6:1-4.

Jesus killed thousands from Genesis to Numbers Al through the new testament! In Numbers 31:17-18 they committed genocide and spared virgins only!

And they claim their God is forgiving o!

They even gave God a share of the virgin in Numbers 31:40! Maybe na them become wives of God!

Who witnessed Jesus praying to God putting his head on the floor?

Who witnessed God creating Adam and then Eve?

Who witnessed the whole creation story in the Bible?

Who witnessed Onan spill sperm when he had sex with his brother's wife in Genesis 38!

Who witnessed Judah having sex with his daughter in law in harlotry?

There are many scenes you believe in your Bible that has no witness!

Liar. Quote where God said those who changed religion should be killed. I'm waiting.

All your wanton ramblings are because you're angry. You can't dispute any of the 5hubge I said about your false prophet.

Who's talking about whether someone is the owner of a land or not? You want to change the goalposts?

God is forgiving but He didn't create the world for perpetually wicked people. God is forgiving, but he'll burn the unrepentant wicked with unquenchable fire. He'll one day rid the world of wickedness and make the world a place for the righteous alone. For God ri have waited 500yrs for those people to repent. He's a forgiving God. He's also a judge of the unrepentant.

Allah ordered you to kill those who're not Muslims. Is Allah forgiving. Tell us.

What's the unseen that has no witness? Please, tell me that particular unseen. Hehehehe. Was Mohammed unseen? Liar!!

Mohammed led Jesus and other prophets in Sarah. Who told you? Mohammed, God Himself or some witnesses who saw it? Thar liar is suffering in hell today. You better repent. Otherwise, God would bring you also to judgement.

AbuTwins:
Where was any temple mentioned in the verse?
The temple is just a microcosm of the entire place!

He didn't pray in the entire place, did he? According to him, he prayed in the temple. Not even on the temple site. In the temple o. Antichristian is here defending the lies. Mohammed prayed, not on the site of the destroyed temple but in the temple.

AbuTwins:
You'll get witness if you can show us the witnesses who witnessed the creation of Adam in the Bible!

You'll first show us the witness who witnessed the creation of Adam in the Quran.

TenQ:
The temple wasn't only destroyed, I it was taken to pieces almost block by block because the Roman soldiers believed that the gold utensils melted and seeped through the cracks of the blocks.

Then Mohammed went to paradise on a mule kind of an animal. Another Lie!

It takes roughly 1000 years to go to heaven and come back. Mohammed's donkey must be super fast

Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book-40, Number-4705
Narrated Al-Abbas ibn AbdulMuttalib: I was sitting in al-Batha with a company among whom the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) was sitting, when a cloud passed above them. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) looked at it and said: What do you call this? They said: Sahab. He said: And muzn? They said: And muzn. He said: And anan? They said: And anan. AbuDawud said: I am not quite confident about the word anan. He asked: Do you know the distance between Heaven and Earth? They replied: We do not know. He then said: The distance between them is seventy-one, seventy-two, or seventy-three years. The heaven which is above it is at a similar distance (going on till he counted seven heavens). Above the seventh heaven there is a sea, the distance between whose surface and bottom is like that between one heaven and the next. Above that there are eight mountain goats the distance between whose hoofs and haunches is like the distance between one heaven and the next. Then Allah, the Blessed and the Exalted, is above that.

Doing the calculations at 70 years* 7 heavens= 490 years. approximately 500 years if we go by other Muslims narratives.

Can you imagine all these nonesense? He flew to heaven on a donkey He was not even intelligent enough to tell an undetectable lie.

AntiChristian:
I should go back and read the vomit of a liar!
Go and read the sordid things your God did in the Bible! Those things you keep bringing excuses for! The excuses you can't give!

I am here to worship Allah and spread optimism! I'm here for your lies!
Yes, Jesus didn't write anything in the Bible! In fact holy spirit was absent! The disciples just wrote what they heard!
Who witnessed Jesus when he was praying alone to know exactly what he said? Your folly is tall like Everest!



Jesus was a Jew yet we call him a Muslim!
Moses too was a Muslim!
Even Noah! We have no problem about them being Muslims!

The mosque in Jerusalem today are being maintained by Muslims not Christians! And our Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam informed us that it exists long before you can ever imagine!

There's no amount of truth Jesus preach to the Pharisees and Sadducees they still didn't see nor hear anything!

Lies, lies and even more lies!!! I pity you.

I won't argue with you okay. Just show me one witness of Mohammed for the event he narrated.

What sordid things did the Almighty God do? God is a judge. When a judge sentences people to death by hanging, firing squad, electrocution or any other means, do we call him a wicked judge or accuse him of doing sordid things? People were having sex with animals, sacrificing their kids to molech by burning them alive, practicing homosexuality and committing too much bloodshed. God promised Abraham that He'll destroy them in judgement and replace them with Abraham's children. He even waited more than 500yrs for them to repeat. When they refused to repent, He fulfilled the promise He made to Abraham and gave conditions that if Abraham's children do the same things the former inhabitants did, He'll make sure He destroys them too. He fulfilled that promise to the letter. Is that not justice? Israel suffered because of the same sins. The reason why they were not taken out of the world completely is because of Abraham's faithfulness with God. The current situation in Palestine is a testimony to the justice of God. God told them He'll scatter them abroad, He did. He told them He'll bring them back to their land, He did. He said their neighbors all around them would be thorns in their flesh, He's doing it. We all see that today!

Mohammed was busy robbing people and having sex with kids. Writing fables and glorifying himself without a single witness. He was killing people for his powerless god. The must accept his lies by force. A man, an apprentice in Lagos was recently sentenced to life in prison for defiling his boss's 9 yr old daughter. Tell me where Mohammed would be today if he were to be judged in court for all the things he sexually did to Aisha even before she clocked the age of 9!! Aren't you ashamed of Mohammed?

Jesus never blew His own trumpet. No Bible prophet ever did. Tell me just one witness of Mohammed. Provide me just one proof of his
fairy tales!!

AntiChristian:
Point of correction I'm not a defender but a Muslim! I'm not on Nairaland to clear your lies or to always argue with you supposedly "holy spirit filled liars"!


To you Jesus levitate and went to heaven to be with his pupsy! To us that's a liar!
So we believe whatever is in our texts as they are matters of the unseen!



There's a mosque everywhere on earth!
Everywhere Salah meets us is a place for us to pray!
The site existed and your holy spirit can't decipher it until it's found in the Bible!

So meshionu!

I have updated that response of mine to include more sordid things about your prophet. Go back and read

If you're not on Nairaland to defend Mohammed, what are you now doing with the lies you're defending?

Jesus never said he levitated? Did He? His disciples who saw Him testified that concerning Him. That's different from Mohammed who testified about himself. No single witness. That's how liars are. They never have witnesses.

There's a mosque everywhere in your head. The site waa never a mosque! It was a Jewish Temple! If Mohammed was a truthful man, he'll describe what he saw on his visit there as proof thar he really went there. He would describe the ruins. The location and other features as proofs. No witness. No proof. For people to believe him, he had to use the sword. You must believe him by force or you die.

AntiChristian:
Temple destroyed?

So if a mosque is destroyed then people won't be able to pray their again?

The way you guys think even with your holy spirit makes me wonder if the holy spirit increases you in folly!

A mosque is not necessarily a building!
Even an open space can be a mosque!

You even have the audacity to come defend an obvious lie because you think you have the wherewithal to defend? Whenever TenQ makes a thread that you cannot defend, you pretend as it you're ignoring him. There are so many threads TenQ has created to expose your lies. We waited for your defense for all eternity. You never show face. Na for this one you dey flex muscle. SMH

So, Mohammed really travelled to Jerusalem from Mecca on a winged creature? He even led Jesus, Abraham, Moses and other prophets in prayers? He then travelled to heaven on the same winged creature? Did Islam take away your sense of judgement? Can't you see the lies?

For your information, there wasn't a mosque on that spot in Mohammed's time.
There was never a mosque there. There once stood a Jewish temple there which was already in ruins. Hehehehe, people in heaven don't pray. Prayers are only needed on earth. Even if they'll pray, why would they leave heaven to.come and pray to heaven on earth? What's special about Mohammed that he'll be the one to lead heavenly beings in prayers? Chai! Again, just like all his useless tales. He has no witness for this event too. No single witness! No one saw him being visited by the said winged creature. No one saw him when he climbed. No one saw him as he rode. No one saw him as he prayed. No one saw him as he journeyed to heaven. Just only Mohammed talking about himself to glorify himself. SMH. A known unscrupulous character (did you read about the apprentice in Lagos who defiled his oga's 9 year old daughter last week? The man was sentenced to life in prison. Tell me where Mohammed would be today if he were to be judged n a court of law for all that he sexually did to Aisha before she even clocked 9?) blowing his own trumpet. A man who magnified himself. God never magnified him. Is that how God dealt with all the Bible prophets? NO! God authenticates prophets in the presence of people, so that they can know for sure that the prophet was not talking of himself. I'll give you instances upon instances in the Bible. There's no prophet without many witnesses. There's no prophet that God does not authenticate. I pity you. See the nonsense he's defending.

MightySparrow:
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx4s9Z-l6PS6xE1-AdhEEKieOTkcKnrIQE?si=OD6NJgvJ8IxqIlFl



Abdul's come over here and defend your
prophet.

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Hehehehe. Lol. Mohammed didn't know that the temple had been destroyed. He lied that he journeyed to a non-existing temple. This Mohammed self.

The issue is a very complex issue. No one is right and no one is wrong at the same time. Supporters would ultimately be drawn along religious and ethnic lines. It's a matter of supporting the side with whom you have some affinity.

But, actually, Israel legitimately owned the land some 4,000yrs ago through war. Land are acquired by inheritance or war. All settlents around the world fall into this category. The first dispute for Israel's land after Israel settled on the land about 4,000yrs ago happened during the days of Jephtha. The event is recorded in the book of judges 11 from verse 12 when the Ammonites came to lay claim on the land of Israel. Jephtha gave him the following response:

Judges 11
23 “Now since the Lord, the God of Israel, has driven the Amorites out before his people Israel, what right have you to take it over? 24 Will you not take what your god Chemosh gives you? Likewise, whatever the Lord our God has given us, we will possess. 25 Are you any better than Balak son of Zippor, king of Moab? Did he ever quarrel with Israel or fight with them? 26 For three hundred years Israel occupied Heshbon, Aroer, the surrounding settlements and all the towns along the Arnon. Why didn’t you retake them during that time? 27 I have not wronged you, but you are doing me wrong by waging war against me. Let the Lord, the Judge, decide the dispute this day between the Israelites and the Ammonites.”

They won the war that day and remained on the land for about 2000yrs before the Assyrian captivity. They have lost the land only to regain it again several times in their 4,000yrs history. The regaining that took place in 1948 is the final big regaining. Palestinians and the Arab world are hurt because of that regaining but Israel must retain her gains because she needs a place to call home. There can be no peace in that place.

The Bible has prophesied about these times and events. The Bible has also fortold how many peace talks in Palestine would fail as they have been failing. The Bible has foretold how turbulent these times would be in Palestine. The Bible has also told us that there'll never be peace in that area until the coming of the Antichrist, just keep watching. The Antichrist would eventually broker the peace with a 7yr covenant. He'll break the covenant after three and half years. The remaining three and half years would usher in a wave of tyrannical events around the world orchestrated by the Antichrist who would have become the world's global leader. These events would lead to the second coming of Christ. A large part of biblical prophecies for the end times have been fulfilled. The next part now is the rebuilding of the Temple and the emergence of the Antichrist. Palestine is the Sand Clock of the world. Events are happening just as the Bible chronicled them. We are very fortunate to live at these times. Everyone of us should be ready as the events continue to unfold. Jesus is coming. Be prepared.

Balanced historical and biblical viewpoint.

The Bible accounts of Palestinian history can be taken to be accurate to a very good degree because it could be seen that the recorders did their best to be honest. This perspective emphasizes an important aspect of the historical accounts found in the Bible, particularly those relating to Israel. The Bible does include narratives that showcase the strengths and accomplishments of the Israelites, but it also contains accounts of their failures, defeats, and moral shortcomings. This willingness to document both triumphs and failures should indeed be seen as a sign of a more balanced and honest historical record. Most other nations emphasize their victories and glories alone. You would never see them record the events of how they were taken into slavery by another nation, but they'll record it if they were the ones taking others into slavery. Israel on its part recorded everything recordable in the Bible including numerous accounts of how they were defeated, subjugated, humiliated and even enslaved. Then, they preserved the records for future generations. This characteristic is often cited as evidence for the sincerity and integrity of the biblical authors. It demonstrates a commitment to recording history as it was perceived by the writers, without undue embellishment or attempts to create a purely heroic narrative. Most nations record histories to showcase only their heroism, glory and power as could be seen even in many archeological excavations.

Though this doesn't guarantee the factual accuracy of every historical detail in the biblical narratives due to human imperfections and individual limited knowledge, we can always rely on the fact that the writers did their best to record the truth.

The false narrative especially in Islam that the Bible has been rewritten should be discountenanced. It holds no water. Christians and Jews hold the same copies of the Old Testament. If Christians dilute their own copy, it would no longer tally with the Jewish Bible. The Jewish Bible would therefore expose the falsehood in the Christian Bible and vice versa. Since Christians and Jews would never sit down at the same table to edit the Bible, both copies would forever checkmate each other. So long as the Christian and Jewish versions of the Bible remain the same. The narrative that the Bible has been diluted or edited is false.

FOLYKAZE:
Even if the Bible have been diluted today, is it that you don't know the meaning of inheritance?

Which Bible has been diluted? The Christian Bible or the Jewish Tanakh? When was it diluted?

We Christians don't have issues with the inheritance matter. It's fully explained in scripture.

What we have issue with is your assertion that "Yahweh was one of the sons of El according to the Bible." You must prove this beyond reasonable doubt.

FOLYKAZE:
This is not a new idea...

Abraham knew El, not Yahweh.

Yahweh declared he is one of the sons of God, and that he inherited Israel according to the bible

I'm still waiting for the verse where Yahweh claimed to be one of the sons of God.

El means God in Hebrew. Abraham knew God but did not know His name. The name was revealed to Moses as Yahweh. The name of God is Yahweh. Or more succinctly put, the name of El is Yahweh.

FOLYKAZE:
You meant the adulterated verse? See the one posted by maynman

The one posted by . maynman is same as in the Bible. It does not say Yahweh is one of the sons of El. Would you point out where it said so?

Kobojunkie:
So, it is not equally logically impossible for a bush to be cursed, a human to be a demon or a mythical snake to exist?

2. Attah of Igala fables you mean?
https://kogireports.com/deed-of-cession-attah-igala-sold-lands-in-lokoja-others-to-queen-of-england-for-700000-cowries/

Calling history myths or fables don't negate the fact the history is history.

[quote author=FOLYKAZE post=126479661][/quote]This very does not in anyway point Yahweh as the son of God.

You need to try harder and find the verse justifying the claims you alluded to.

FOLYKAZE:
This is not a new idea...

Abraham knew El, not Yahweh.

Yahweh declared he is one of the sons of God, and that he inherited Israel according to the bible

Will you please point to that Bible verse where Yahweh declared Himself as one of the sons of God? I'll be waiting earnestly for this.

Kobojunkie:
Interesting you are against this fable but the fable regarding a mythical cursed bush, mythical demon human passing as a king, mythical snakes, and a voodoo priest posed as a pastor somehow battling and destroying them all, you seem comfortable okay accepting as fact? Nonsense!

I can be against the fable because it's logically impossible for Adam who existed before Mohammed to be created because of Mohammed.

Your opinion about the story being mythical is your personal delusion. You call it mythical because in your atheistic mind, you don't believe in the supernatural.

Read about the Attah of Igala and come back here to tell me that the supernatural does not exist! The story shared is part of the many supernatural happenings in the life and times of Babalola which are part of CAC history.

Go on an investigative journey to Odo Ọwá mountain in Kwara state. They'll show you things that are still visibly verifiable which are all results of the supernatural acts that followed Babalola's Ministry.

The myths are only in your head. In reality, they're history.

FOLYKAZE:
Yahweh is known in Canaan as one of the seventy sons of El.

In a sense, the Israelites are Canaanites too since Abraham spent most of his later life in Canaan. During those times, he influenced many friends, some of them such as Moreh were very prominent people. They even assisted him in the war against Chedorlaomer and the 3 other kings. He influenced 300 servants of his, including Eliezar of Damascus. He married several wives after the death of Sarah and had many children. Each of these know the God of Abraham. They became nations with varying degrees of knowledge and understanding of the God they serve. Over time, they could evolve several ideologies regarding the God they serve. This one of the 70 sons of El is just one of such ideologies.

sagenaija:
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This is Islam for you!!
So many Tales From Arabia, and Empiree and other apologists friends of his will claim that it all makes sense to them.
And where they cannot answer they run for cover or give the usual disclaimer: "Allah knows best".

Allah even claimed somewhere that Mohamed made him create Adam. It was said that:
Allah said: O Adam, I have forgiven you, and were it not for Muhammad I would not have created you."

Lol.
TenQ come see something o. Na mohammed.make allah create Adam? Antichristian, na so e be? Chai!!

SIRTee15:
He's lost.
I gave up on him the day he justified sex change in children. He claim children are only aware of themselves as a person and we adults are the one pushing girl/boy concept into their heads.
U can imagine such reprobate thinking. I must say atheism is a disease of the mind.

Chai!! I didn't know he has such debased ideologies. So, he's so depraved? No wonder. Atheism is indeed a disease of the mind. One shouldn't be surprised at his conducts.

Maynman:
Mental psychosis, your god is an isrealite god just as Zeus is a Greek god, you have been praying to a dummy idol.

Go on Google, Look up how "Yahweh became God".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdKst8zeh-U?si=RX93Q-qnshhEK4ZJ

Sirtea15, can you see a practical example of what I said. I have made a very simple post without insulting anyone. Simply because he disagrees, his first words to me are "mental psychosis'. You see why you must shun such a dark soul?

SIRTee15:
Continue dragging your parents to shame. Shameless fool
That's what u get when u fail to instill Godliness into your kids.

Avoid any discussion with maynman at all cost. The discussions usually lead no where. He's very rude and immature. A very bitter soul who always seeks to insult and abuse Christians during discussions. He'll then come back to say you started it first, when you accuse him of being toxic.

A simple talk such as 'ask your parents' which could have delivered such a response as 'I'm mature and knowledgeable enough to unravel matters by myself. Why should I ask my parents?' Or, I need an answer from you, not from my parents' is what led him to start calling your parents Jewish slaves.

The other day, I was discussing with him and told him about a babyfish caught by Russians in the 90s during the gulf war. I actually thought he'll be aware of the incident but he claimed nothing of such happened. I told him that we could retrieve the information from the archives of national dailies or he could ask elders around. He replied me that his elders are not liars like mine. Can you imagine? Every conversation I have ever had with him always ends with insults. He wouldn't even bulge if you're not replying him back with insults. He'll continue until you're pushed to the wall. He's such a dark soul with a very devilish mind. That shouldn't come as a surprise since he's godless, he cannot be any better. However, I must admit that there are atheists who behave more maturely and engage in mutually respectful conversations on this platform. Maynman is not the case. After a few lines of discussion, you'll find out he's not worth the engagement. Shun him from henceforth.

FOLYKAZE:
What Bible are you talking about? The conjoined propaganda? If you want to read the chronicles then get yourself the Apocryphal books, not the concorted lies and fabrications in your 66books you call Bible.

And how many times do I have to tell you that Israelites do not have land? They were wanderers, Shasu and worshipper of the desert God yahweh.

Let's set the records straight.

There's a city in Palestine called Jerusalem. There are still others like Bethlehem, Galiliee, etc. These are very ancient cities. If Israel had no land in Palestine, why do these lands have Hebrew names? Why is it that Biblical sites and artifacts are being uncovered there by archeology. Perhaps I didn't understand your point. Kindly clarify.

It's understandable if the kings of Egypt called the Israelites Sashu and wanderers. They were actually wanderers when they came into Egypt. They had no nation according to the Bible. They were 70 in number who came in from Luz in Mesopotamia. They wandered until they settled briefly in Luz, also called Bethel. During the seven year famine, they found their way into Egypt as a family of 70 people who came for assylum in Egypt on the invitation of Pharaoh. Jacob their father, an old man at the time was also in the company. So, a family that later grew into a large population after long stay in a place would certainly be given a name by the indigenes. It's
no brainer that the Egyptians call them Sashu. They were wanderers before coming to Egypt. Became sojourners while in Egypt, and became Israelites after leaving Egypt.

Now, is Yahweh a desert God simply because He's worshipped by desert people (Edomites, Moabotes and Ammonites) ? No. Note that Israel, Edom, Moab and Ammon were brethren. They all worship Yahweh but have varying understanding of Him. Each depict Him differently. Abraham was the grandfather of both Edom (Esau) and Israel (Jacob). Abraham was the father figure of Lot through whom the Moabites and the Ammonites descended. All serve the same God through the influence of Abraham but have varying knowledge of Him. Some of them even have a depiction of Him as an idol. All of these nations were Canaanites. So, the depiction of Yahweh as a Canaanite God is well understood. However He's not.

jaephoenix:
Lol. I see youre as retarded in everyday convo as well as religious. I have explained why i have this handwriting. And from what I read here, I'm not the only one. You owe docs an apology for your accusation but knowing u, the sun has to turn to ice before you think of it. Good night

Lol. I see you're as retarded in everyday convo as well as religious. You are even a misfit for your profession. Stating that you learnt the handwriting from med school to re-echo what I already stated did not add any value to the conversation. I even added more value to help you know why you learnt what you learnt, but being a dullard, you didn't seem to grasp anything. I owe docs no apology since you never explained anything. Who doesn't know you learnt it from med school? No one asked you to explain why you have the handwriting, the purpose of the handwriting is the crux of the matter. You're just too dull. You owe me an apology for your insults but knowing u, the sun has to turn to ice before you think of it. Good night.

jaephoenix:
Did you read the part of my earlier post where I said I changed it to adapt to the rigors of the training, during classes and ward rounds?
Do you experience this lapse in memory everyday or are you getting senile dementia everyday?

Did you read the part where I asked why you had to learn a new form of writing? Why you just had to be taught some new handwriting? To what purpose? While I know it's a deliberate measure to prevent patients from being able to read in order to avoid self medication which obviously have dire consequences, perhaps you don't even know, otherwise you would have included that in your defence. The sarcastic comment about 'docs collecting your money' was what irked you. You never stated the Purpose for your learning a new handwriting. Or you didn't read that part of my comment? You probably forgot. Do you experience this lapse in memory everyday or are you getting senile dementia everyday?

jaephoenix:
If u understand English I said I learned to write this way from med school and it has stuck with since then me whether I'm writing at work or anywhere.
Should I type in your native language for you to understand ?

It was not your normal writing. It is part of your professional training which has now become second nature to you. The question is, why must you learn a new way to write in the first place? Why must you abandon your normal handwriting for a new illegible one? Do I have to write in your native language for you to understand?

jaephoenix:
Dude, thats the same handwriting we use, whether work or personal. I talk for myself anyway.
So why is explaining patient rights to a patient balderdash? U well so?

You well so? Why contradicting yourself? After saying yo learnt to write that way in med school, you still come out to say it's your normal handwriting. Don't you reason before you talk?