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Explore2xmore:
Much obliged by your response. I nor Islam disregards the honourable status of Jesus pbuh. It is however ridiculous to have a said ardent of Christianity try to slander Allah, Muhammad pbuh or Islam based on hadith. A lot of the hadith regardless of certification as Sahih are fabricated.
I here inform of a forerunner of hadith fabrication though he is not the only one. He is a jew and perhaps the rebellious nature is shared by Tenq who relys mainly on these in his ridiculous attempt to attack Islam.
He is well aware of the errors in word for word translations and when he brings them up from the Quran he has seen the truth. This then pushes him to Hadith which are mostly fabrications that Allah and Muhammad pbuh has warned against.

If the hadiths were to be a source of Islam like the Quran, the Prophet would have asked his companions to copy and learn them by heart. Yet, he prohibited their copying, let alone ordering them to be copied. Had the Muhammad pbuh desired them to be learned by heart, the companions nearest to him like Abu Bakr, Omar, Usman, Ali, Sugry, Zed b. Sabit and Selma al Farsi, would have transmitted thousands of hadiths. Instead, the words that have been transmitted from the abovementioned companions are very few.

A lie is a lie no matter how many times you say it or try to represent it.

My friend, TenQ has addressed this issue many times here. Whenever you guys lay claims to fabrications, he provides evidences of authenticity, and then the critics are silenced. Read through his previous threads to verify.

Regarding language translations, he brings translations from numerous sources and also compares literal Arabic renderings word for word.

We have seen that most English translations of the Quran actually make some dubious attempts to alter the true meanings of some arabic words in order to deceive the reader and conceal the real meaning of those words from him.
Take for instance an example from the video below. The narrator showed the gymnastics that the translators did in translating some of the names of Allah towards the end of the video. This scenario is very rampant in Islamic translations. You can't get the whole truth except you know Arabic and read your Quran in Arabic. The translators are out to deceive.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvxkx0BnAA8&pp=ygUOQWxsYWggaXMgc2F0YW4%3D

My friend, Jesus came before Mohammed. He was prophesied of God before His arrival. He accomplished everything that was Prophesied about Him, including the exchange of His life for the redemption of the world. The greatest blow Jesus dealt Satan was His death on the cross. His death on the cross permitted Him to operate against Satan in the spirit realm as a man and recover man's lost glory for man.

This death, which is Christ's greatest accomplishment and Satan's greatest woe is what Satan created Islam to deny. Remove the death of Christ from everything in His existence, and His coming to the world immediately becomes useless. It's Christ's death that is the Hallmark of Christianity. That is the seal of salvation. It is the emblem of Satan's eternal defeat.

To conceal his defeat and keep men in perpetual ignorance, he created Islam to deny that Christ died and resurrected. Meanwhile, the Jesus portrayed in the Quran is a false Jesus. That Jesus isn't the Jesus of the Bible. The Jesus of the Bible came into the world through the Virgin birth purposely to make His soul an offering for sins. He actually came here as "the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world."

Tell me why Islam denies the same death that is the core message of salvation. Tell me why Islam denies the death of Christ which is the greatest blow satan suffered in all of eternity. The only one who can deny such event is that Satan who was most affected by it, and wants to keep people ignorant regarding the defeat he suffered on the cross. This truth has been spreading around the world for 600yrs before Satan created Islam to deny this truth regarding Satan:s defeat. You can choose what to believe but I know that the Original always appears before a counterfeit is created. Islam cannot be original because it was created as a counterfeit to counter Christianity. And, you'll soon see the reason why. The most important counter Satan needs is to deny the death and the resurrection of Christ because therein lies Satan's defeat. If Christ didn't die for sins, the Virgin birth is Useless. Thankfully, your Quran does not deny the virgin birth, but it denies the purpose of it. Why? Islam is claiming that Jesus indeed came into the world as promised but did not fulfil the purpose for which He was born.

If such an event as the death and resurrection of Christ is being denied 600yrs after it happened, now, you can easily decipher who authored the Quran and the purpose for which Islam was invented.

Let TenQ come and respond by himself but before he does, let me give my observations.

TenQ quotes from your Quoran and hadith. Whenever he quotes from your books, he references the particular chapters, verses, and in case of hadith, he reference authors as well. I can't remember all the authors but I've seen some names like Albukari or something. Sometimes, he emphasises that the hadith are sahi - I don't know the exact spelling but I think it means 'authentic'. Then, he also mebtions quoting from Tafsirs or something like that too.

I've not seen him ever quoting from the said Jewish convert you are parading here. Except you want to say that TenQ follows the Quran, Tafsirs and hadiths that are created by the said Jewish convert. Or, do you mean that the Quran, Tafsirs and hadiths are followers of the said Jewish convert? TenQ can only be a follower of the said Jewish convert if the Quran, hadith and Tafsirs he quotes from are followers or authored by the Jewish convert.

jaephoenix:
This is rich coming from a religion whose adherents drink water from washed pastors feet and effluent seeping from dirty statues

People could do anything in the name of religion. Wise people differentiate what is commanded from what is not commanded Can you find any reference in the Bible for your claim? The claim of the OP was taken from the Quran.

TenQ:
A 1000% correct.

Even as Christians, Jews we must ask questions.

Mat 24:4:
"And Jesus answered and said to them, Take heed that no man deceive you."

This we can only do when we TEST all spirits

1Jn 4:1:
"Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world."

You see now? Which deceiver would boldly tell you to test the spirits?

TenQ:
Thank God for the internet. the The deception of Islam would have been total.
Unfortunately, the as long as they learn not to ask questions, please they would remain deceived by Allah the greatest deceiver

I tell you bro. If you can't ask questions, you're already in bondage for sure.

TenQ:
Amen Bro!

I pray that some of them will have their eyes opened to seek to know the true Messiah and be saved.

Keep up the good work too. The Lord prosper your effort.

I am glad that apart from showing Muslims the unreliability of Islam, Allah we also expose Christians to what Islam truly is

Yeah, your posts are two-edged swords. The open the eyes of Muslims to their errors, and also warn people of other faiths concerning the deception of Islam.

Do you know that due to ignorance and satanic deception, most people who were never religious in their lives, on their death beds, when asked to choose between the Bible and the Quran before departing to the great beyond, most of these people, being deceived by the God of this world often choose the Quran and have an Alfa pray for them before dieing?

If they've had access to your type of expositions before reaching that stage in life, they'll certainly make better choices.

Christistruth00:
Notice that Jesus is not even mentioned once on the Poster with the Head of the Pastor and his Wife

I didn't see any image of the pastor and wife plastered everywhere.

The poster bears the image of the pastor and wife for easy Identification of the church organizing the program.

The program itself is all about Jesus. The medium through which participants are attracted is not an issue. What matters is 'Who are they attracting them to?'

You don't need to mention Jesus before you attract people to church. When they come to church, they'll hear about Jesus anyway.

Jesus has been hung on the cross as the serpent was in the wilderness. He has left the cross and now resides on our hearts. Tell me how that passage of scripture validates cross imagery in the life of a Christian.

Christistruth00:
Col 2
14] Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
[15] And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
[16] Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
[17] Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.


Now show us in the Scriptures where the Images of a Pastor and his wife was plastered all over the Church

Thank you

Please first show me the said plastered images of the pastor and his wife all over the church.

The scriptures you quoted in Colossians 2 did not validate the symbolism of the cross but only told us what happened on the cross.

Please present your facts with truth and honesty. Show me any reference in the early church to cross images. Show me the images of the said pastor and his wife plastered all over the church!

Christistruth00:
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The message of the Cross as symbol of Christ’s Salvation is very scriptural.Christians are not worshipping a piece of wood when we see the Cross We preach and worship Christ who died on the Cross for our sins.

Can you make a single reference to an instance in which the early church in the days of the apostles used the cross as a Christian symbol?

The image of the cross was introduced through Roman Catholicism which worships images.

However, the presence or the absence of a cross in a church premise or anywhere does not imply anything. It all depends on the intents of the actors.

If you erect a cross as a symbol of worship, you ere. If you erect it as a reminder of Christ's ultimate sacrifice for salvation, you do nothing nothing wrong.

If you do not erect it because you think the cross is useless to the Christian faith, you ere. If you don't erect it because you want to avoid idolatery, given that the risen Christ Himself lives in your heart, you've done nothing wrong. Intent is the most important thing.

The Lord console his family and fill the vacuum he has left behind.

Some day, we all shall meet on that beautiful shore.

TenQ:
Amen!
The only problem is that, Muslims have been inoculated against the Truth.

The would rather defend a lie and adopt the same lie in hope of defending Mohammed

Yes bro.

God has been using you to do a great job. You can never know the impact you've made until we appear before the judgement seat of Christ to receive the rewards.

Keep it up bro. The Lord would upon their eyes and set the captives free. We'll never stop praying for them.

TenQ:
That would be cool.

Unfortunately, the he who is infected with the demon of Islam would not listen. The depraved mind is looking forward to lazily having endless sex with perpetual big breasted virgins specially created for sexual duties by Allah!

Each piece of truth after truth would gradually dismantle the web of lies.

TenQ:
Only satan tempts people with endless sex, Booze and women. Allah succeeded in this with Muslims.

When Muslims do their Dawa to convert Christians to Islam, can they pretend that their paradise is exactly that of the Christians. The Gullible ones will swallow the bait unknown to them, they have just exchanged their life for death and their light for darkness

Hmm.

I wish you could create a thread to compare between the Christian heaven and the Muslim heaven so that readers could determine which is the real or false heaven.

TenQ:
Mohammed is the world most successful 419 who created a religious cult for his own benefit and is the pseudo/alias of Allah!
It is not wrong to say that Mohammed is the God of Allah: for the main purpose of Allah is to serve Mohammed's wants

That's it bro.

Everything revolves around Mohammed. Even paradise river is his urine.

advocatejare:
Muhammad is whom Muslims and Allah worship and adore

I think both entities are interchangeable.

LegalWolf:
Hey FxMasterz TenQ et. al

I can't even keep up with the loads of comments and mentions. At a point, I noticed one future thief was quite matured enough to know that I have been very busy and that accounts for the reason I haven't gotten back. But again, like a Cyclothymia patient, he relapsed still thinking I avoided him.

Despite my reservations, thank you TenQ (and FxMasterz) for checking up at a point. I do not take this for granted. While I will love to engage you all, I just have better things to do with my time. I have more rewarding engagements and relationships to build with others I find more worthy in intellect than you two. And I mean no harm. So why I will continue to respond depending on availability and boredom, do not expect that I will dignify you with a response going forward.

Today is shabbath and after working for 6 days, I want to rest like yhwh. Do have a lovely weekend and would see when we see!

Welcome back my friend. Whatever you do, remember that your soul is precious, and that Jesus gave His life to give you a befitting eternity.

TenQ:
Mishkat al-Masabih [b]67
[/b]Ibn Mas'ud reported God's messenger as saying, “There is none of you who does not have his partner from among the jinn and his partner from among the angels put in charge of him.” The hearers asked, “Does this also apply to you, messenger of God?” He replied, “It applies to me too, but God has helped me against him and he has accepted Islam, so he commands me to do only what is good.”

Muslim transmitted it.

Note:
The Jinn of Mohammed command him to do good only

His jinn had even accepted Islam. Hahaha. This Mohammed funny die. Lol.

TenQ:
I agree with you.
Mohammed said that all Muslims have their own Jinn. The demons of Islam has blinded them so much that with their eyes opened, I they don't see.

If truly Mohammed said this, then, this is probably the only truth he told his followers.

They should be aware that while Mohammed and all Muslims have jinns, Jesus Christ did not only cast out jinns, He has also commissioned His servants to cast out jinns in His name. And this we would do if only they would see their need for help.

TenQ:
I agree with you.

His points are so lame you wonder if he has ever entered Sunday school.

I assume he's a Muslim who at a point of his life dabbled with Christianity and the began to introduce himself as a pastor.

I checked his website and I couldn't find the ministry he was pastoring (except they want to tell us he's a Go)

He's under obligation to tell lies so that Allah can be praised.

TenQ:
You know these Muslims
1. They would first deny it
2. then claim it a lie
3. then say that hadith is fabricated
4. Then say the chains of Narration is broken
5.then Enemies of Islam wrote the hadith
6. then the say, show us from the Qur'an
7. they finally say that it is allegorical
8. Just begin to repeat their stance over and over again

This is my experience with them o

Lol.

It's not them, a force of hell much mightier than they, is in control of their minds.

TenQ:
Give him time to come from the Mosque. He would find another lame post from the fake self proclaimed ex pastor Samson Lucas Bashir to attempt deflecting the discussion.

Why is Islam so problematic. An endless cascade of lies that they can't keep up with.
LOL!

Oh, so he copied from a supposed ex pastor? Definitely, when the man was a pastor (if there's any truth in the claim), he never read his Bible, otherwise, he wouldn't be teaching antichristian such useless points that even Christian kids would regard as child plays.

TenQ:
Shame and Delusion will not let AntiChristian or Vanessa7 or LegalWolf or Lukuluku69 explain whether this is figurative, literal or allegorical.

How does this make sense to anyone?

I expect antichristian to go and create a counter thread as he usually does. Rather than reflect on the eternal destination of his soul, he'll see it as an attack on his religion. He'll then go an create a thread full of lies to discredit the Bible or Christians. After creating the thread, his lies would be exposed, then he'll run away to create another failed thread similar to one of his failed topics.

When will these guys open their eyes to see that the Arabs have scammed their souls? Allah and Mohammed are the best of scammers.

TenQ:
Shame and Delusion will not let AntiChristian or Vanessa7 or LegalWolf or Lukuluku69 explain whether this is figurative, literal or allegorical.

How does this make sense to anyone?

How can this be allegorical when fellow Muslims are drinking urine straight from a physical bowl under a physical bed of a physical Mohammed?

TenQ:
See As all of them are forming gentle and shy!

They are all tongue tied now. I This is what they teach themselves in in their Qur'anic schools and mosques.

Religion of Lies and Deceit!

I now know the reason why Antichristian wants to die a Muslim. So that he can drink from paradise's river of Mohammed's urine while enjoying his 72 virgins. The urine would be responsible for his eternal erection.

TenQ:
See As all of them are forming gentle and shy!

They are all tongue tied now. I This is what they teach themselves in in their Qur'anic schools and mosques.

Religion of Lies and Deceit!

Please, which one is more powerful, Mohammed's urine or Carmel's urine? Maybe antichristian can help solve my dilemma.

TenQ:
See As all of them are forming gentle and shy!

They are all tongue tied now. I This is what they teach themselves in in their Qur'anic schools and mosques.

Religion of Lies and Deceit!

There's a demon of deception and spiritual blindness that would never allow them to see the lies. May God have mercy on them.

Vanessa7, hope you've drunken your own portion of Mohammed's urine today? The river of paradise is filled with Mohammed's urine, so you'll certainly fill your belly with this urine for all eternity.

May the Lord Jesus restore you to that place from which you have fallen.

IgiveFreebies:
The father, even in the bible it's the father that gives out his daughter not the Priest. You as a cleric can declare and the father comes in and say no marriage

The issue of marriage is not a matter of who gives out, but a matter of who joins.

TenQ:
All my Muslim friends refuse to show me the way to get my own cup of the pee of Mohammed. I guess Mohammed's urine is part of what they mix with water of ablution

I actually also want to find out if everyone will be drinking the Urine of Mohammed in Paradise : as they say that Mohammed's urine is the river of paradise.

Antichristian, abeg, no hoard the urine o. Please share for all the Muslim ummah to drink. E fit cure all their diseases self. Why hoard such a good thing? If you have this urine, kindly share. Paradise would be very sweet because Mohammed's urine is the river of paradise. Hahahaha.

TenQ, why are you talking like this? Don't you know that this holy urine is very precious? Try and get a cup I beg. Muslims are ready to buy 1 spoonful for a million dollar each. You don become stinkingly rich be that.

Why make an unnecessary thread concerning a blessed urine that antichristian, truthday, Lukuluku69, Drlateef, Vanessa7 and legalwolf are frantically searching for to drink?

Find this urine abeg. Visiting the grave of Mohammed to squeeze out his joystick may do the trick.

Don't you know that the urine of Mohammed is the water of paradise?

onumadu:
Thanks Pastor for your invaluable insights and contribution to this issue/topic.

I honestly believe that your Number 1 reason above is perhaps the most likely reason.

Your reason Number 2 reason above is not likely because I wasn't really emotionally attached to this person.

She was obsessed with me (I thought it was love and wanted to determine whether I could fall in love with her and marry her).
Didn't happen.
At first I thought it was love, but when I found out that she was obsessive of me, I started to immediately take steps to end the relationship.
Granted, it took me a while to end the relationship, because I was feeling really sorry for her (she was actually very loving and caring to me).
She would send notes, make calls that I don't pick, leave voice messages, etc. So I had to do it gently, over time.

With hindsight now, what I believe is likely the case is that an entity (a spirit wife, maybe sent by the occult) possessed her and was using her to get to me. I saw the entity in one of my vision/dreams.

However, the spirit wife was also using other people's images/faces sometimes, but hers was most frequent.

I definitely wasn't "in love" with her. So, in essence, there is no "soul tie" to break. There was none to begin with. lol

I have dominion over it and over all other forces of darkness operating in my life and environment. I have already stated how I dominate them.

The problem though is that these forces when they can't get to you, they go after your wife or children.
I often tell my wife that our family has two security doors. If I close my door and she leaves hers open, these things take advantage of any open door. They even use children's "doors" if you don't cover them spiritually.

Powerful Christian musics play in my house every night and in my vehicles all the time.
That's the shortcut solution for me. Covers children and a weak wife.

This is really beautiful. You're well grounded.

However, soul ties do.not be necessarily exist as a result of emotional bonds. If you had sex with her during your relationship, then there's a soul tie.

onumadu:
All my dating were with marriage intentions, and that maybe why the ladies hung on a little longer after we separated.

But then, the idea that a living breathing person could become a spirit spouse to another living breathing person is a phenomenon that I never knew existed.
Or could the real spirit wife be masquerading with the lady's face? But the lady was acting it out in real life, too.
Or does the spirit spouse possess a person one dated, and use her/him to stalk the man or woman?
All I know is that the visitations happened, and they were spiritual in nature.

Maybe now you understand why I started this thread and why I needed an authority on the matter to teach it.

These are the possible reasons why you're seeing the lady in your dreams:

1. She might be possessed and could have been an agent sent to your life from the occult. She is not the actual spirit wife but a doorway for the spirit wife to manifest.

2. While you were together, you might have been deeply attached to her emotionally. Perhaps she was most loved by you. Due to your deep emotional attachment, the actual spirit wife could use her image to ensnare you.

You need to break your soul ties with the lady in question. If you had any covenant with her, break it. The unholy relationship must be broken spiritually before you can be free. Break the union and cast out the spirit wife.