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MrPRevailer:
I haven't got that information, yet. Perhaps Mercator was only particular about it's structure.
Or you can read the Map yourself lol. One of it says "Pygmei".

Have you watched the clips?

Okay, I'll research it myself. Thanks for the information.

Maynman:
He just had to be an atheist so as to make this tale more interesting

My younger sister was an Atheist for many years until she fell sick in 2020 and was in coma for 18 days. When she returned, she abandoned Atheism and embraced Jesus. Today, she's no more an Atheist because of that brief experience of an after life. Just like the testifier above, she was fortunate to have been able to return. It would shock you to your bone marrow if you enter the after life in the foolishness of atheism. And if you're unable to return, you'll be very very unlucky.

MrPRevailer:
Genesis 2
And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.

11The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;

12And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.

13And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.

14And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.

Eden is Blackrock. The converged waters surrounding THE MOUNTAIN is the garden's location

You have quoted the Bible's with references to the rivers flowing around Even. There are rivets around the Black Rock according to you. What are those rivets called?

preciousee17:
I always liken my God to a Computer Programmer.
It's only then that you can understand how Words (lines of code) can create a complex Universe (Game/application)

And it's only then that you'll understand why the creation (Character in the game for instance) can never really understand their creator (Programmer) because all their actions/thinking capabilities are limited by commands/syntax/whatever programmers call it, and the creator isn't limited one bit by all these.

Atheists are the most foolish beings on the planet. They reason like cock, then go about to brag that they're the most intelligent!

Yesterday, I was looking at a newly born kid goat in my younger brother's house. i began to wonder who taught the day old kid goat the location of its mother's breast? Who taught it to jerk up the breast so milk can flow? Who taught it to draw from the teats directly instead of grappling at the other parts of the breast? The day old kid goat was doing all these with amazing expertise. Yet some fools out there say its nothing.

I extended the kid goat's behavior to several other things out there. So many programmatic events in humans, animals and nature. Even something as simple as 'fear' which teaches us to run from danger. Infact, when I attempted to approach the day old kid goat, it made to run away from me even though it had never experienced danger in its life of few hours. Yet it knows to run away. Only fools think all these occur by happenstance. It even baffles me when tiny things like ants begin to make mouths and speak arrogantly against the Almighty God. God isn't man, that's their saving grace. And many such ants are here on Nairaland.

They have no proof for their assertions, whether personal or general. All their lives are based on speculative theories and ideologies that keep changing with new discoveries. Nothing concrete. Yet they consider themselves wise while expecting me to throw my unforgettable personal experiences and encounters out of the window to embrace their lunatic ideologies.

MrPRevailer:
easily beguiled


It's pathetic you'd believe that considering that Eden is impenetrable according to Genesis 3:24. Those who believe this your theory believe God took it to Heaven (Paradise) because it cannot be found/lost.
BlackRock fits all the exact descriptions of Eden's location. There are exactly 4 rivers as you can see on Mercator's Map, if you ain't blind. Which runs its course throughout the Earth. It is at the center of the Earth (the North pole), viewable but HIGHLY CLASSIFIED.
You just dismissed all the facts without the slightest consideration.

The rivers mentioned around the garden of Eden have names. What are the names of the rivers around the black rock?

AntiChristian:
That's your own belief!

Angels in Islam are created from Light!
They have wings!
They do not eat nor have desires!
They never disobey Allah!

I'm talking about reality. Not mere unsubstantiated belief.

If angels are created from light then, how did Satan become darkness? Or is it possible for someone to change the essence of his creation?

preciousee17:
Problem solved.
False pretense of living in peace.
No wonder they preach that you get more slaves and virgins for killing more people... A religion where women don't have a say, and are only considered as domestic workers and sex machines.

I tell you. Everything about Islam is kill and have sex. All things revolve around the men. Nothing for the women.

AntiChristian:
Unseen forces!

Demons are the bad unseen forces!

Na you dey mix things up as Holy Spirit don comot your brain!

I won't believe you until I hear it from someone who speaks the truth.

And for your information, unseen forces are spirit beings, and spirits have no religion.

preciousee17:
So many bad characters and stories surrounding this supposed Prophet.

The funny thing is that they'll judge Christianity based on the attitudes of stray pastors — instead of the attitude of Christ.

Then they judge their Islamic vibes based on the attitude of a few good Imams — instead of the attitude of their terrorists, most especially the founder Mohammed.

There's no good Imam anywhere bro. They're all terrorists like Mohammed. They're currently doing it in Pakistan right now burning churches here and there. In the hearts of all Muslims including this antichristian, the Pakistanis are good Muslims doing the service of God. They're secretly wishing to participate in such murderous barbarism. I learnt there's a money they all pay which is used to fund terrorism. I've forgiven the name they call that form of giving. Maybe Advocatejare or TebQ can remind us. Even the so called good Imams contribute to this fund.

AntiChristian:
Yes, Jinns can be Muslims or not!

I said Satan is a Jinn and not an Angel!

Did i mention Demon?

Church kids and adults no get cranial content na!

So Jinns are human beings in English? Are they not demons?

It's even sickening for someone to be so loud with his ignorance. Satan is a demon? Lol. Muslim demons also exist. Lol.

preciousee17:
Sorry bro, but I have to agree with the muslamic brother

Some demons are Moslems
Others are Jews
Some happen to be Hindus
But a majority are atheists LMAO

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Lol.

AntiChristian:
He is a messenger Angel to Allah and that doesn't stop him from being the head Angel!



So the Archangel of war in your own reasoning is greater than the bringer of messages from God to His anointed?
Why didn't Michael save Jesus from the King instead of Gabriel warning Joseph?



How does the hadith state this?

They're equal in rank. Both are archangels. God is the head of His angels. That is why He's called THE LORD OF HOST! Each archangel has numerous angels under him.

AntiChristian:
Did i ask you to vindicate yourself on why Jesus was forsaken and cursed by himself on the cross?

No need for him to vindicate anything.

We are Christians because Jesus died, became a curse and resurected. Without these, there'll be no Christianity! Jesus did what He was sent to do.

Was Mohammed sent for his throat to be cut off? His throat was cut off and he himself proclaimed it, re-echoing an earlier claim he made that if this happens to him, we should know he's a false prophet. He himself never knew that God is so powerful to the extent that He'll use the words of a man to expose the man. Mohammed has been exposed.

preciousee17:
Even the Old Testament (which they agree with) show that Prince of Persia held Angel Gabriel captive for about 21 days or so (their so-called head of angels!), until Michael came to Gabriel's rescue.
(Book of Daniel)

You see now.

These Muslims are deeply ignorant. They'll say things some times and you'll just wonder how a full blown adult could be so unknowledgeable. A church kid won't commit this kind of blunders antichristian is committing. The other day, he was telling me that some demons are Muslims and that Satan is a demon himself. I can't stop laughing. What gibberish! Do spirits have religion?

preciousee17:
True, I've heard something almost similar
We'll see everything play out with time, but he knew what he was saying when he told people to kill and r@pe and commit all manner of atrocities.



I don't know, I was made to believe that he usually dictated the messages he gave.
Maybe he was calling that guy closer, so he'll dictate and the guy will write — and the people shouted to overshadow his voice...
(Remember according to them, the so-called angel who appeared to him at first was squeezing him and commanding him to read...).
But the truth will eventually play out one day — just like the quote on your signature

The wicked man even slaughtered the Jews that accommodated him and protected him when he was in danger.

advocatejare:
Some Muslims who are ashamed that Muhammad died as stated in the Quran that he would die if he was falsifying things are now claiming that Muhammad didn’t know what he was saying when he said that he felt his aorta being cut


He was not actually an illiterate, he could write, he wanted to write to guide his followers right at his point of death, but they didn’t allow him. They gave excuse that they already had the Quran with them and because of that they didn’t need any further guidance from muhammad

Sahih al-Bukhari 5669
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
When Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was on his death-bed and in the house there were some people among whom was `Umar bin Al-Khattab, the Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Come, let me write for you a statement after which you will not go astray." `Umar said, "The Prophet (ﷺ) is seriously ill and you have the Qur'an; so the Book of Allah is enough for us. " The people present in the house differed and quarrelled. Some said "Go near so that the Prophet (ﷺ) may write for you a statement after which you will not go astray," while the others said as `Umar said. When they caused a hue and cry before the Prophet, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Go away!" Narrated 'Ubaidullah: Ibn `Abbas used to say, "It was very unfortunate that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was prevented from writing that statement for them because of their disagreement and noise."


The question is, didn’t muhammad know that the Quran was enough not to make them go astray before he decided to write another thing for them?

He probably wanted to confess his deception but Satan was already in control. He can't allow Mohammed to spoil all the work he has done many years through him. He must use people to stop him. This is the same Mohammed they claim to be an illiterate who's saying he wants to write. Which illiterate says he'll write. He'll rather say 'Let me dictate ' TenQ even provided evidence that Mohammed was the one managing and keeping records for his wife's business. A job only literates can do.

AntiChristian:
Jibreel is the head of the Angels of Allah!



How loud? Na you smoke loud! What's to be seen here?

Kikikiki.

Gabriel, a mesanger angel is the head of the angels? Hilarious! Why do you love deception?

Michael is an Archangel of War. The only angel who can combat Lucifer. Gabriel is just a mesanger angel whose duties are to deliver divine messages. Though he's also an archangel but Michael excels in power. Michael is a warrior archangel.

Read the Hadith again. The person whom Mohammed calls Jubril is a human being!

advocatejare:
Let’s hope that their eyes will open to see this one

Amen o.

advocatejare:
When Muhammad was to slaughter 700-900 Jewish men who had accommodated him and protected him in Yathrib (which Muhammad later named Medina) when the people of Mecca sent him away and the Jews housed him in Medina, it was Dihya bin Khalifa that commanded Muhammad to kill the Jews and Muhammad told his other followers that the same Dihya whom they all knew was the same angel Jibreel that was bringing him his so-called revelations!


At another point, Muhammad told one of his wives that Dihya was Jibreel


AntiChristian, Lukuluku69, Empiree, drlateef, motayoayinde

Who is Jibreel?

This one is very loud but they're spiritually blind. They won't see it.

Akinbahm:
In as much as I'd like to respond to your claim but there's a maxim that says before you argue with someone, ask yourself, "is this person mentally and emotionally mature enough to grasp the concept of another perspective?" if not there's no point to argue.

You think you can fool anyone with your escapist response? What do you make of yourself?

[quote author=shadeyinka post=125293741][/quote]Thanks so much for going the extra mile to clarify this issue.

This actually is proof that the Jesus of the Quran is a fake one. It was invented only to deceive.

BetterHeadline:
This guy always have an opinion on every issue, even on issues he clearly knows nothing about.

The Arabic translation of Jesus is Yasu, not Isa. Isa was merely a quranic character different from Biblical Jesus. Even Arabic Christians use Yasu, not Isa, to refer to Jesus.

And islamic Maryam is also a different character, different from the biblical Mary.

TenQ, is this Yasu and Isa disparity verifiable?

saintokwuluora:
No be today we see am. I will be shocked if Islam accepts that Jesus the son of Mary is the Messiah.

Yes, they accept that Jesus the Son of Mary is the Messaiah but they don't understand what the term Messaiah means.

TenQ:
The aggression of the Amalekites towards the Israelites is mentioned in Exodus 17:8-16, during the time when the Israelites were wandering in the desert. The Amalekites attacked the Israelites, and Joshua led the Israelite army to fight against them. This was the reason for warring against them in the time of the command "an eye for an eye.."

So, what is the Offence of the infidels against you Muslims to warrant execution?



When all you do is copy-paste! SMH!
Prophet Ezekiel was profesying by God's instruction showing the seriousness of the Calamity of judgement coming against Israel because of their sin.
Ezk 21:11

So, this is Israel's judgement and punishment o



Did Jesus say this!?
Did you read Luk 19:12!?

Luk 19:11-12:
"And as they heard these things, he added and spoke a parable, because he was near to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear. He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return."



No, you didn't : you only did copy-paste!
SMH!!


If you have read the chapter properly, you would have noticed that it is CHRISTIANS that would be killed and imprisoned and tortured by the world and NOT the other way round.

Mat 10:16-18,22:
"Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the middle of wolves: be you therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will whip you in their synagogues; And you shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. … And you shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endures to the end shall be saved."

The Jinn of mindless copy-paste seem to have possessed you




Now that you have been answered, can you please respond to the OP's question?

By the way,
I have a question for you too on my page.

Is Mohammed literate or Illiterate?

The great TenQ. The nemesis of legalwolf and his co-slaves.

atheistconverta:
Including Mary, Elizabeth, Esther, Deborah, and the likes that God chose, right? The devil has certainly got your sight on lockdown, hence why you could see the most devilish things and yet have the effrontery to spew it out in the name of God, because your ability to discern even blatantly demonic ideas is outright dead. May God deliver you from this utter madness and deeply-rooted hatred for the female gender that has completely striped you of the ability to reason sanely when it comes to any topic that concerns fhat gender. It will completely destroy you if you don't repent before it gets out of hand and beyond redemption.

Great words for him if he's wise. If he's foolish, he'll be the one to suffer for his own foolishness.

AntiChristian:
1.) The Abrahamic God is omniscient.
Thus 2.) If Jesus is the Abrahamic God, then Jesus is omniscient, because someone cannot be who we've perceived him as and yet not have the essential attributes of that person.

3.) If Jesus is omniscient, then Jesus knows when his second coming will happen.
But 4.) Jesus does not know when his second coming will happen on grounds of the gospel.
And subsequently 5.) Jesus is not omniscient.

Hence 6.) Jesus is not the Abrahamic God.

7.) If Jesus is not the Abrahamic God, and yet the concept of God is attributed to him by means of any doctrine, then that doctrine contains the equivocation fallacy, particularly because it contains the attribution of once concept to two distinct persons.
Hence 8.) any doctrine that contains the attribution of God to Jesus contains the equivocation fallacy.

9.) The doctrine of the trinity and the doctrine of the hypostatic union and the Athanasian creed contains the attribution of the concept of God to Jesus.
And subsequently 10.) the doctrine of the trinity, the Athanasian creed, and the doctrine of the hypostatic union contains the equivocation fallacy.
11.) Every doctrine that contains the fallacy violates the law of identity.
So 12.) the doctrine of the trinity etc violates the law of identity.
13.) If a doctrine violated the law of identity, then it also violates the law of non contradiction, because the violation of the law of identity implies that A is not A.
And subsequently 14.) the doctrine of the trinity violates the law of non contradiction.
15.) For every doctrine, the doctrine is not logically incoherent if (and only if) it does not violate the law of non contradiction.
Hence 16.) the doctrine of trinity is necessarily logically incoherent.

17.) If a doctrine is logically incoherent, then the doctrine is not true, because only that which is coherent is true on grounds of the coherence theory of truth.
Hence 18.) the doctrine of trinity etc is not true.
19.) It is either that a doctrine is true or false or logically incoherent.
Therefore 20.) the doctrine of trinity is not only logically incoherent but false.

Published by HasSan Ibn Maruphdeen

You Muslims are ignorantly obsessed with the physical Jesus. The real Jesus of the Christians is the resurrected Jesus.

When did Jesus become King of Kings? After His resurrection. When did He become Lord of lords? After His resurrection. When did He become Saviour? After His resurrection.

The physical Jesus limited himself to the human limitation in order to fulfil his human mandate. He left behind, everything He had and represented while on earth, then, took them up again after His resurrection.

That's why, if you know the physical Jesus without knowing the resurrected Jesus, your knowledge is useless. The resurrected Jesus is the REAL Jesus. Those who know the Resurrected Jesus are eternally superior to those who merely know rhe physical Jesus!

That's how we know Jesus. That's why it is foolish of anyone to say Paul is unworthy of apostleship because he didn't meet the physical Jesus. That's nonesense. Even if you meet the physical Jesus, you must know Him in the spiritual to really know Him.

That's why, you can't know Jesus more than us. We have a relationship with the resurrected Jesus. That's the real Jesus. The physical Jesus was a mere 30yr humanly limited representation of the unlimited eternal Jesus who was, who is and is to come.

TenQ:
Allah with lies:

To demonize the Jews, Allah says they worship their Rabbis as Lord beside Allah AND that the Jews say Ezra is the Son of Allah!

The Qur'an is the handwork of an Arabian man (Mohammed)!

Fact!

TenQ:
How can AntiChristian know what Mohammed himself never knew: the spirit!

The Jews were having a theological debate about Daniel if he was a major or minor prophet as EVERY major prophet was directly spoken to by God's Spirit. They remembered that across the street was a self proclaimed Greatest prophet and the Last of the batch. They asked, Mr Mohammed : "What about the Spirit?".

Mohammed was lost! He didn't understand the question nor even know what a spirit is. Days went into weeks and the ficticious Jubril didn't show up to tell the Jews the answer. After he couldn't tell them the answer, Allah came to solve the problem for him.

Qur'an 17:85
They are asking thee concerning the Spirit. Say: The Spirit is by command of my Lord, and of knowledge ye have been vouchsafed but little.

What a response. From that point on, the Jews knew without a doubt that Mohammed was a FAKE IMPOSTURE Prophet and they couldn't hide it.

From that point on, Mohammed's hate multiplied for the Jews and he vowed to eliminate the from Arabia peninsular.

How can he understands the phrase "kingdom of God suffering violence and violent men possessing it"!?

Imagine the imbecilic response. What do you expect of a man who couldn't differentiate between Mary the mother of Jesus and Mariam the sister of Aaron? The impostor thought that the two entities are the same person. Someone who is errornous about earthly things can never be thrusted about heavenly things. It's only someone who doesn't know what a spirit is that can tell people that Satan is a demon. Chai! And antichristian believes this obvious error, cursing himself and his family daily praying to die a Muslim.

TenQ:
The Spirit of Islam is the Spirit of violence. See how they protected the murderer of Deborah because he has done the work of Allah.

He is probably in a University in Maradi, Niger Republic studying Islamic law and jurisprudence or Arabic language.

Yes now, God already said Ishmael was going to be a wild ass of a man. The prophecy was fulfilled on him, His children and the religion they represent are known world wide to be wild asses. Kids in Arabic schools are so wild. You cannot compare them to church kids. In my area, they are the ones who would quickly pick up stones to hit their friends during a slight argument.

Antichristian was quoting scripture the other time that "The Kingdom of heaven suffereth violence/" In his warped mind, he thinks the violence is like the one exhibited by muslims. I forgot to answer him but he himself knows very clearly that Christians are not known for violence worldwide. The Kingdom of heaven is a spiritual place. Physical violence cannot get you there, The scripture is talking about spiritual violence. To wage war against the devil and all the princes of darkness who have vowed to make sure you inherit hell. So we fight a spiritual war daily against the devil and his agents in our quest to make heaven. These islamists won't understand.

TenQ:
All True Muslims are expected to fight Jihad and to obey the prophet.
When the demon of Islam possess them, there is no one they cannot slaughter.

I tell you bro. They'll even go for their benefactors' heads at such a time.

TenQ:
I know that perfectly.
You will just hear that a headless man was found beside the river. Alhamdulillah, the enemy of Islam is decapitated to the delight of Allah and his prophet.

How murder can be an act of ibadah is amazing : only satan can produce this result

Lol.

AntiChristian:
Same laws you cast as foolish now right?

All these theory are foreign to Jesus! What did Jesus tell the rich man who came to meet him about eternal life? Salvation through grace? Falsehood!

So how many fathers do you have? How many males sex organs born you?



Mention who and where he got his education?

The conditions for the laws are not the same!

Jesus couldn't have told the rich man about grace when grace had not yet been given. Salvation through Killin for Allah? Falsehood!

I have a physical father and a spiritual Father.

Answer TenQ directly my friend. We don't need to know his school or his teacher before we can know that could read.