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triplechoice:
I don't need the forgiveness of your God .

Ask him to forgive you first for misrepresenting an innocent person who did nothing to you before you started attacking their personality .

If you were not too lazy to read ,you would have gone to search how you thought dtruthspeaker was "defending " me before believing his last statement he was doing so whereas he was actually trying to put words in my mouth despite the fact I made it very clear I don't believe in the concept of a spirit spouse .

Most of you here just jump into other people's on going conversation to talk nonsense without bothering to check what has transpired before that time .

This is Nairaland not your church where your sheepies tremble at your every word .
Respect yourself and you get that back in return.

This is the person you said was defending me . Show me from it how he was doing so

Smiling, I already decided to let you be. On a second thought, I feel that a last comment might help you. I just want to mirror you to your own self. To do that, let me analyse the response of Dtruthspeaker which you have been using to berate me.

He wrote:

"You actually have confirmed my thoughts."

Here, he is saying, I'm thinking along your lines, and I have found confirmation and support in your post.

"You do be live that this experience may be true however you are using an overriding knowledge to settle it. Which is the knowledge of The Law (I hope you know that everytime i say The Law I mean God's Law more commonly known as Natural Law.

Here, he's saying that he thinks you believe that such phenomenon may exist in reality but you're using your superior knowledge of the Word of God to override the occurrence or to nullify such happenings.

"And that Law states that "a person always intends the consequences of his action".

Here, he continues to establish the last statement and further buresses his points by saying that everyone is responsible for his own actions (that means all allusion to demons or spirit spouses are all fallacies). A man is the cause of his own problems. Not demons or spirit spouses. Thereby providing more support for your views.

"So no one can blame any other person but themselves for any ill fortune which be falls them."

Here, he encapsulated all what he has said afore in one paragraph to give more credence to your post. He says it's errornous for anyone to believe in spirit spouses being the cause of his or her life issues. No one should blame anyone including spirit spouses for their ill fortunes.

If after this analysis, you still cannot look inwards and see yourself, then you really need the help of God in your life.

All is well in Jesus name.

Explore2xmore:
As-Samiri also known as the entertainer, holds a significant place in the history of Middle Eastern entertainment. This ancient form of storytelling and performance art has been cherished for centuries. The role of ٱلسَّامِرِيُّ is to captivate audiences with his artistry, bringing joy and laughter to both young and old. Through his vivid storytelling, music, and dance, the Samiri takes audiences on an immersive cultural journey.

What are you talking?

The name Samaritan has an Israeiite origin. When exactly did the name originate in Israel?

triplechoice:
Something really must be wrong with you if you think dtruthspeaker was defending me with his ambivalence.

After the jaundiced comments you made about me, you now want to hide your craziness behind him to come out clean as a saint ?

You certainly need to be delivered of the demons pushing you .

Please face your fake deliverance business and forget about me .

I don't deceive people to feed myself and my family . I'm legitimately engaged

Gud would have mercy on you and forgive you in Jesus name.

triplechoice:
You are pastor and so what?

Nothing you have said has made any sense . You 're just shiouting everywhere .

Please ignore me and face your business of deliverance to put food in your stomach.

The moment I saw how you responded with insults to dtruthspeaker who wrote in your defence, I already knew you are not worth engaging. I should have completely ignored you from the beginning. We're talking about practical life scenarios and experiences, he's talking something else. Is such a person worth engaging? Only God can tell how you are in real life.

onumadu:
Okay @ Pastor FxMasterz I have two questions.

If you know the answer please share it with us. If you don't, it's okay not to answer it.
Thanks!

Question #1: How many spirit spouses can any one individual have? Is it monogamous "over there" or not?
E get why I dey ask this question. I will explain my reason later...

Question #2: What does it mean for a woman to dream about being pregnant for three days out of 7 days, and ending up giving birth in dream on the fourth day?
Does this have anything to do with spirit husband?
Again, I have follow up questions about this very woman's other experiences.


Thanks in advance!

Question 1: In most cases, there's just one spouse taking different forms. The demon can appear in different forms to the woman. It's a very ugly thing taking different faces. One spirit spouse can be married to all members of a family. Polygamy rarely occurs. I have never met a polygamous case in my 25yrs of ministry.

Question 2: Yes, that's a spirit spouse at work. I many cases, while the woman is giving birth in the spirit realm, she might be made barren in real life. The spirit husband cannot afford to have his wife taking care of his earthly rival's children. The woman may be made barren or made to suffer unexplainable miscarriages. In few cases where the woman have children in life, there'll be many challenges for those children. They may sickly, never do wells or may even die untimely.

Spirit husbands don't have sex with their victims only in dreams. Some women experience physical sexual assault without seeing the personality that assaulted them. Mostly occurring at nights. Some would have the physical feelings of being penetrated after a sex dream. It happens to men as well but it is most common with women. Most women bottle it in. They are too shy and embarrassed to discuss it.

People who are actively or passively involved in the occult have a different case. Their spirit spouses would change as they climb higher in occult levels.

@ onimadu, these are my answers.

onumadu:
Pastor it is exactly people like you (with LIFE experiences on this subject) that we need to learn from.
Please teach us more.

As a reward for your help, I have added the link to the book below.
Just copy THE WHOLE LINK and paste on the browser bar.

https://ia601501.us.archive.org/16/items/dealing-with-demons-an-introductory-guide-to-exorcism-and-discerning-evil-spirits/Dealing%20with%20Demons_%20An%20Introductory%20Guide%20to%20Exorcism%20and%20Discerning%20Evil%20Spirits.pdf

Thanks so much my brother. God bless you. I really appreciate the gift.

Spirit spouses are actually demons who help carry out the will of satan in the lives of their victims.

All demons are powerless the moment you involve Jesus in the matter. A cordial relationship is your stepping stone for victory over all demonic forces. I have had many occasions where demons literally beg me when the Lord Jesus begins to deal with them in their victims. Do not overrate them. They are useless powers like satan their master.

onumadu:
EXCELLENT submission sir.

THANK YOU.

You're welcome my brother. This world is deep. All those foolish atheists forming woke are in for a rude shock if they cross into eternity without Jesus.

TenQ:
Modern Muslims truly know more than both Mohammed and Allah.
This is why, to win an argument, they don't mind twisting both Allah's words and Mohammed's words.

They twist their words aiming to help them correct their errors in hope that the hearer or reader would be dumb enough to accept their own updated version of the narrative. SMH. That's how legalwolf fought tooth and nail to find a Samaritan in the wilderness with Moses to no avail. He could nor answer simple questions but knows how to hurl the most vile insults on the persons telling him the truth.

triplechoice:
You are the ignoramous becuase you just vomited all the nonsense you have been forced to swallow in your churches. .

Incubus and sucubus is not the same as spirit spouse in traditional African religion from where Pentecostal Christians in Africa have stolen it from .

Having sex in dreams is not evidence of spirit spouses . There are rational explanations why people can have sex in dreams .

Morever , dreams are mostly symbolic representation of something going on in the dreamers life . It should not be interpreted literally. Primitive people are the ones known to give literal interpretations to all their dreams

I'm a pastor. I know what I'm saying.

Recently, not more than 3 weeks ago, I delivered a woman from yeye osun's grip.

As a pastor, I have varied spiritual experiences, and can talk on a wide range of topics involving the demonic.

Have you checked online for incubus and succubus? Or you're just bent on expressing your personal egp through unfounded theories? If you want to talk on these things, come to the field and face practical life realities. Theories are only sweet in the mouth of the speaker. In real life, what you wrote up there is balderdash. Get out of your confort zone and see it live and direct in practical terms. It's easy to just talk for the sake of talking. Anybody can do that.

TenQ:
The major thrust of Islam was to create a new religion to counter Christianity especially with respect to the doctrine of Trinity.

Mohammed thought that Trinity was a coalition of
God,
Mary and
Jesus As the Trinity.


Qur'an 4:171
"O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, Three (Trinity) ; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs


Below is Mohammed's understanding of Trinity.

Qur'an 5:116
"And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, 'O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?' He will say, 'Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.'"


Taoheed was a concept that negates the Trinity (according to the understanding of Mohammed) by saying that Allah is one and not three!

I see.

Meaning antichristian, legalwolf, drlateef, Lukuluku69, truthday and their co-slaves know the personalities that make up the Trinity more than Allah does. Hehehe. God, Jesus and Mary? Funny!

TenQ:
Just as we Christians have the doctrine of Trinity, Muslims have the doctrine of Taoheed.
Taoheed principally says that Allah is ONE (Oneness of Allah).

Unfortunately, even though it sounded good on paper, on scrutiny, it has its achiles heel as unknowingly to Muslims, Taoheed also sets a limitation on the power of Allah.

One of this days, I will write something about the Taoheed and it's limitations

I still don't understand. I'll be looking forward to your post on the topic.

onumadu:
Well, I think that the wrong way of looking at these things is to assume/expect every race or tribe of people to share the same cultural perspectives on them. CULTURE is a huge factor in how these things are dealt with.

For example, most whites who even believe in spiritual things simply categorize all such things as "demons" or "evil spirits".

What matters to them is that they have effective ways of getting rid of them when they are problematic.

I said I've read a lot of books written by whites on such things.

One of such books is Dealing With Demons: An Introductory Guide to Exorcism and Discerning Evil Spirits By Bob Larson

In the book, the author simply called all of these forces "evil spirits". What intrigued me most about his claims in the book (the man had conducted HUNDREDS if not thousands 0f exorcism, some of them even on religious leaders and the most unbelieving) is that significant numbers of people he helped never believed in them until voices they couldn't control started speaking through them!

So, you are mistaken to say that only Africans or as you put it "Africans living in Africa" believe such things.
My "spirit wife" may be a white man's "evil spirit". Does it matter the nomenclature as long as the problem is solved?

You need to stop thinking of Africans are uncivilized or superstitious regarding such things.

Those things are real and have destroyed the greatest and most intelligent people.

Most of the responses so far are useless. Many ignorant people forming professors.

Spirit spouses are real. They come to people in dreams and have sex with them. Due to jealousy, they can make life hard for the earthly spouse. They can even kill him or her. They're the ones responsible for late marriages, unexplainable miscarriages, dysfunctional homes, and in some cases, sudden deaths, poverty, ill lucks and extreme hardships.

When you see yourself getting married, taking care of kids, having sex or relating with a spouse in dreams, you're actually a victim. They can make life really miserable for their victims. They want attention and are extremely jealous. This is the basis of the problems they create in people's lives.

In most cases, they're contracted through covenants or contracts with water spirits. Individuals who patronise marine spirits for help often get into this trouble and pass it down from generation to generatuon. So, a baby could be a victim through generational inheritance.

To get loosed from these spirits, you need to break the covenant you.have with marine spirits (most times those covenants are made by ancestors), break the evil soul ties you have with them, divorce them in the name of Jesus and burn any dowries or tokens representing the marriage in the spirit realm. There's also the need for you to destroy all the demonic children you have with your spirit spouse. The matter is a very serious matter. Only Jesus can deliver the victims.

The white people call them Incubus and Succubus. The Incubus is a spirit husband while the succubus is a spirit wife. It's not an African thing as one ignoramus was saying up there.

Apart from marine connection, a pact with witches or occultism can also bring these spirits into one's life and lineage.

Please if you have the book Dealing With Demons: An Introductory Guide to Exorcism and Discerning Evil Spirits By Bob Larson, kindly share with me. Thank you in advance.

CC:
Dtruthspeaker
Triplechoice

TenQ:
They can't argue Trinity without misrepresenting it to mean something else.

As them what the verse below truly mean and see them vomiting lies to cover up


Qur'an 46:31
يَٰقَوْمَنَآ أَجِيبُوا۟ دَاعِىَ ٱللَّهِ وَءَامِنُوا۟ بِهِۦ يَغْفِرْ لَكُم مِّن ذُنُوبِكُمْ وَيُجِرْكُم مِّنْ عَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ

Qur'an 46:31
O our people! respond to Allah's Messenger and believe in Him. He will forgive you your sins and guard you from a painful doom.

Is this translation wrong?

They hate the truth. The god of this world has blinded their minds lest the light of the gospel of Christ should shine in their hearts.

Sometimes, I just wish that God would end the world now so that the deceivers and the deceived would know their fate.

You mentioned something about Taoheed sometime ago, would you please enlighten me?

TenQ:
Allah claimed that the Christians say that Allah is the Messiah!

If this is true, then the Messiah CANNOT be a partner with Allah but the same identity or personality.

Succinctly said.

So, what problem does antichristian. lukuluku69, drlateef, legalwolf and their co-slaves have with Christians worshipping Jesus? The Messaiah is the Saviour of mankind, and no one saves but God. Besides Him there is no Saviour.

BoldBrainz:
Smh.

Nairaland is the only internet platform you'll find strays thumping their chests and threatening others, as if they have the monopoly of violence..😂.

We'll see anyhow? Abeg, who are you? Who's your father? What is your family name? Outside nairaland, what is your family name in the scheme of things and how have you impacted in the lives of ordinary Nigerians? You can barely even express your ideas with impeccable write-ups, yet you somehow feel you have enough venom to dish out to Nigerians.

Oga, rest! Stop being a clown! If you're troubled in the head, go and sleep in your stuffy bedroom!

This kid. Gruw up and know how to engage people maturely. Who's in your category to be trading words with you?

If you talk anyhow without using your common sense, you'll be arrested and jailed. I pity you! Words also have spiritual consequences.

That's going to be my last words to you. If you like, get wisdom. If you like, remain a fool. Fools would bear the brunts of their foolishness. It's just a matter of time.

I don't have time for morons. So, no more response from me.

BoldBrainz:
Your benign threats count for nothing. Nigerians can call out anyone they see fit. Oyedepo is not god. Neither is Adeboye.

Who's threatening you? Is it news to you that words have repercussions? If you talk anyhow, you'll see anyhow. Talk only the things you can defend.

BoldBrainz:
Well noted.
You however failed to answer the question. Why are you trying to restrict people from expressing opinions about Oyedepo? When did he become immune to criticism?

Who's restricting you? You own your mouth. You can say as you wish, but after saying, you cannot see as you wish.

BoldBrainz:
Why?
When did Oyedepo become immune to criticism?

There's no man of God in the Pentecostal arena today including this Pastor Eze who is not a follower of Oyedepo. Name them, Oyedepo was the one who taught many minsters of God in Nigeria how to walk in the power of God and the secrets of victorious lviing. No man of God in the Pentecostal arena can say he never partook of Oyedepo's anointing and Grace. Name them.

Adeboye and Oyedepo are the fathers of most Pentecostal Ministers in Nigeria. And whatever you see any of them do, Adeboye and Oyedepo do much more. They only don't make any noise.

Explore2xmore:
The way you mislead people with your talk on grace implying they are not liable for their actions.

This is why I pointed out these verses to establish that the laws with regard to righteous conduct must be obeyed.

There's high risk of misunderstanding in the guise of not yet being under the control of the 'holy spirit'.

Individuals must for decide and determine to be upright then God will help. Just as the proverb that it's the child who raise his hands up seeking help that will be carried.

Submission and surrendering to the will of God while asking for the good yourself.

Allow Vanessa7 to grow in faith which is something that proceeds from God himself and no man can truly influence.

Everyone is liable and responsible for their actions. People would be rewarded for allowing God to work through them, and be condemned for disallowing God from working through them.

Go and read again all that I posted because you're saying very contrary things.

boltwings:
which truth, just say you want to learn from me, but sorry I don't have time to post for lazy people who can't do their personal research due to their lazy attitude.

Learn what from you?

Deuteronomy 4:15-18

“Therefore watch yourselves very carefully. Since you saw no form on the day that the LORD spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of the fire, beware lest you act corruptly by making a carved image for yourselves, in the form of any figure, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any animal that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the air, the likeness of anything that creeps on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the water under the earth.

boltwings:
all this low IQ people, I am tired of explaining, if u know get sense, u no get sense. See the stupid narrative without logic you just dropped.

Your insults further proves him right.

Why not counter him intelligently? You have no response other than insults?

He's telling you the truth!

Deuteronomy 4:15-18

“Therefore watch yourselves very carefully. Since you saw no form on the day that the LORD spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of the fire, beware lest you act corruptly by making a carved image for yourselves, in the form of any figure, the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any animal that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the air, the likeness of anything that creeps on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the water under the earth."

Explore2xmore:
Matthew 12:36-37
But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.

2 Corinthians 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

Romans 14:12
So then each one of us will give an account of himself to God

Ecclesiastes 11:9
Rejoice, young man, during your childhood, and let your heart be pleasant during the days of young manhood. And follow the impulses of your heart and the desires of your eyes. Yet know that God will bring you to judgment for all these things.

1 Corinthians 3:13
each man’s work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each man’s work.

Yes, we do the works, not by power nor by might but by His Spirit. The Spirit of God does the works in us. "Therefore, there's no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. Romans 8:1-2.

'So, walk in the Spirit. Let the Spirit live out the life of God in you, and you shall not fulfil the deeds of the flesh.'


For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Philippians 2:13.

This is Grace.

GoodGovernance:
IT company and job ,is not all about hacking.

He would get the job if only he was applying for a hacking job, otherwise he should be handed over to the police for unethical hacking.

Moreover, being a good striker(hacker) does not imply being a good defender (cyber security expert)

In most cases, being a good hacker transmutes to being a better defender. This is because a hacker looks for vulnerabilities before executing any hacking. Hence, he knows the loop holes and also knows how to block them. In short he knows the flaws that gave him access and he also knows how to patch them.

Amotolongbo:
Your database is not safe either if you hire him.
you can never know the extent of damages he can cause when you hire him.

You'll hire him as your CyberSecurity manager. That's all. Someone who can hack your systems know your flaws. He can therefore defend them against external intrusion. If anything goes wrong, he'll be the prime suspect, so he'll never dare.

sonmvayina:
Read it again. There is no death or ressurection in the passage. .it is the king of the earth and God that is talking...not Isaiah. It is not a messianic prophesy...

Please go and study and research widely on Isaiah 53. You and mindhacker9009. Study to bolster your position on this part of scripture. I'll open a thread to debate the two of you on isaiah 53 Verse by verse Please be well prepared for the thread. After that thread, I'll also engage you on the invented Christianity theory. Be prepared for that too. I'll dedicate time to expose things beyond what you might expect. All by the Power of the Holy Spirit.

RelevantSolutio:
Wow.


This is really Great.



Islam Encompasses More People Who Are Genuine To Themselves, Because Islam doesn't Tolerate Evil Offenders.


However, Many Christians will continue With Their Evil Acts And They Stay Hypocritically About it Under The Umbrella That They Are Covered By GRACE.

Man, you don't understand what grace is, do you?

You can't understand grace until you know how sinful sin is.

If someone poos in a plate, what amount of washing would your 3 year old daughter give to the plate that would satisfy you? No matter how she washes it, I bet you'll never ever eat from that plate.

We are God's plates. God's vessels. We're like that 3 year old. Sin is the poo in our plate. No amount of personal washing we do can satisfy God. Our self righteousness and good works are in vain.

Grace means, God does the washing Himself to His own acceptable standard, and then empowers us by His Spirit to live according to His will. Not by our own might but by His Spirit. That's Grace - God working lthrough me to do what I'm unable to do; to live a life I'm unable to live.

You'll agree with me that you may eventually eat from the plate if you do the washing by yourself to your standard and taste. This is the whole concept of Grace. This is Christianity.

'For by Grace are we saved through faith. Not of works, lest anyone should boast.'

CC:

Vanessa7

MrPRevailer:
You just proved you know very little about Christianity.
Christianity/Jewish religion teaches strict obedience, purity, chastity, Morality, good works, prayerfulness, physical cleanliness. It is a law and a commandment from God.

But this does not replace the law of atonement. Even if you keep all the laws, you cannot be Holy in the sight of God. It is the blood atonement that makes you Holy. Being Moral is different from Holiness.
Holiness is meeting GOD's standard of righteousness. This is impossible with man.



Self-righteousness, Good works or praying 5 times daily CANNOT atone for your sins.

Grace is not to be abused.
Romans 6:1 "Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we that are dead to sin live any longer?"


God required a Holy human blood to replace the animal sacrifices. THERE WAS NONE HOLY. Not even the great prophets.

Ecclesiastes 7:20 "Surely there is not a just man upon Earth that does good and never sins".

Therefore God sent his Word to become flesh and be that HOLY-Human who will make atonement for our souls.

You Muslims believe that the Word of God is God and God sent it down to Earth. And that it will actually SPEAK for Muslims in the judgement day.

But you find it hard to believe that God made that his Word flesh to make an atonement for our souls according to his Law, Leviticus 17:11?

Their Quran actually agrees that Jesus is the Word from God but denies that Jesus is God.

MindHacker9009:
The True God of the Old Testament does not have smoke coming from his nostril and takes 32 virgins as His share of war booty. Your pagan god is the god that has smoke coming out of his nostril like a dragon, that takes 32 virgins as his share of war booty and was the one that mated with another man's wife to produce himself and then offer himself as a sacrifice on the cross to himself.

You're even proud of your confusion. Everyone who reads your piece knows that you're confused.

TenQ:
He has no response!
He can only brey like a donkey repeating Islamic propaganda!

Lol.

I pity him.

Very confused being.

This is the same fellow who was misrepresenting God by falsely accusing the Almighty God of receiving 32 virgins in one of the most blasphemous threads to hit Nairaland. The confused fellow now comes around to say that same God is the only true God.

We know Him to be the only true God but you do not know Him. Your opinion is worthless.

chieveboy:
Well said, but its a two-way traffic.

Those who have had orgasm can NEVER be able to use human language to explain or teach it to anyone just as it really is. No one can. Not via text, not via speech.

It's like the word "happy". No one has the right word for it and never will.

This then leaves a condition where any objective presentation if it is not actually correct, because it is something you can't fully express without distorting it's originality and truth.

If you must distort the reality of orgasm during the presentation owing to inefficiency of language and communication media, then whatever you're saying is not really true in the sense of reaching the totality of the experience.

So you arguing with, killing or fighting those who don't agree are really in same lane.


The point is, no one should really be explaining or preaching orgasm to anyone. The best one can do is to live, demonstrate or embody it practically. That still doesn't impart the knowledge to third parties, but it at least gives them an idea towards the pursuit of their own experience.

This mirrors spiritual experiences. There's no word to fully express or accurately describe the experience, so all discriptions fail to do Justice to the matter. However, the failings of many who claim genuine spirituality while living obnoxious lives contrary to spiritual expectations do much damage to the subject. There is a very limited few who walk the talk but the masses errorneously base their judgements on the many professed spiritual men whose lives are nothing to write home about.