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Christianity Etc › Re: Even If I See Evidence For Christian God, I Will Still Not worship Him by FxMasterz: 2:17pm On Jul 13, 2023

GodSaklek:
Bro,u dnt need to worry urself,yahweh(jehovah) is the same satan,thanks to remodification of bible from the hands of different people of the common era that hides the link between satan and yahweh but still u can stil find out from bible of today that yahweh is the same satan,go and read 2 Samuel 24 v 1 to 4,.. then read 1 chronicles 21 v 1-3, compare both.
the book of job and daniel especially used satan instead of yahweh but both books was remove and rewritten as they pleased.
The supreme being(universe) created all this gods we've heard on earth, like yahweh,Odin,Jupiter,Amun,Vishnu,Ra,Atum,Zeus,Enki and million of others,including those that exist in other planets,go and read the book of otem here on nairaland.

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Laughable. Those who want to be deceived would continue to be deceived until their end comes suddenly. So, you mean "Satan so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life.?" Satan must be a very good man.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by FxMasterz: 2:12pm On Jul 13, 2023

LegalWolf:
It appears the truth is antithetical to your nature, like I have always known. Simple explanation, you are writing volumes

Quite irrelevant to the question I asked.

Unnecessary divergent tactics. You are not even sure of which source to rely on. The independent source you provided which I agree with says the origin of the name is uncertain and probably derives from Samaria. Explain what you understand by that. Shikena!

You went to school now - we are dealing with an independent source not some useless book forged over the years by some deluded cretins. Tell us, in clear and unambiguous terms, your interpretation of your independent source. All these nonsense won't help you.

Please wonder later. But answer the two questions. Your independent source said the origin of the word is uncertain. What do you think that means. It went further to say it probably derives from Samaria. What again do you think that means. Keep It Short and Simple as someone who TenQ knows always say.

cc my nairaland nemesis future thief TenQ and his other folks sirtee15 and fxmasterz

My friend, the truth is bitter. Isn't it? That's why you're getting so agitated.

I'll still calmly ask you to provide us the origin of the term Samaria according to the Samaritans themselves. My source is not the highest authority on the matter. The Samaritan should be more trusted that anyone else. While my source may use the term 'probably' as to the meaning of the term. The Samaritans never said 'probably'.

I know you already understand how frail your arguments are, as you're avoiding to boldly declare the origin of the term. It's high time you faced reality. Tell us your own take on the origin of the word instead of ranting mindlessly without saying anything. I've told you mine, if you do not accept, refute it with concrete claims to the contrary.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by FxMasterz: 12:54pm On Jul 13, 2023

LegalWolf:
Mr FxMasterz

I live and deal with 'volume of words' and trying to disguise a narrow issue with beautiful words can't cut. First of, we have moved past the meaning of the word. Now you are asking of the origin of the word. Key word here is origin and you have a provided a screenshot which basically says:

1. The word has an uncertain meaning in Hebrew.

2. And it is possibly derived from Samaria.

These are views I potentially subscribe to and I have now asked you, BASED ON THE SCREENSHOT YOU FXMASTERZ PROVIDED what it means that (a) the origin of the word samaritan in hebrew is of uncertain meaning and (b) it probaby derived for the hebrew word for Samaria.

So basically we are talking about the origin. Please answer the question and stop dribbling around. Show us that yhwh or his traducers and writers of the bible are correct.

cc my nairaland onlookers : fxmasterz sirtee15 and our only future thief TenQ

You already know my position. The word Samaria was derived from the name Shemer. Shemer was the one who sold his mountain area to Omri. Omri, after buying the mountain, named it Samaria. Before the reign of Omri, there was no Samaria, neither was there any Samaritan named in Israeli history.

I have shown you the origin of the word according to Israeli history. Now, show us the origin of the word according to your Mohammed. We want to know how Moses saw a Samaritan in his group. Even the Samaritans never claimed they have been calling themselves Samaritans since Moses' days. They claimed Aaronic priesthood only. They never claimed they've always been Samaritans.

The Yorubas claim descent from Odua, a prince of Saudi Arabia. Does that make Yorubas Arabian? Or does that make Odua a Nigerian? As long as the word had not yet originated in Moses' days, every claim calling anyone a Samaritan at the time is false.

You have a responsibility to clear allah's name and give credence to your prophet by showing us vividly that the Samaritans have always been called Samaritans as far back as the days of Moses. For now, we know that the Samaritans themselves make no such claims.

I wonder how someone in far away Arabia who lived more than 2,500yrs after the actual events could be held as an authority against a people who wrote their own history as it happened before their eyes. No be juju be that?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by FxMasterz: 10:21am On Jul 13, 2023

LegalWolf:
One addition - you are giving me the meaning of Samaritan in English . One quick question - what did the dictionary you provided said the term comes from ... hebrew Shomeron of uncertain meaning AND POSSIBLY FROM SHEMER....

Question

1. What does 'possibly' mean?

2. What do you have to say that the Hebrew term from which the English Samaritan is derived is from uncertain meaning .

Please no too much turanchi. Just keep your answers simple and short.

cc: sirtee15 fxmasterz future thief TenQ

Your questions are unnecessary. I have already agreed with you to see the word Samaritan in its ethno religious context - guidance of the Torah.

We're not arguing about the meaning but about the source. The origin of the word. The time the word came into use. Who coined the word. That word has a begining. The screenshots I posted was to give you an I of its beginning. If you have a contrary opinion, then tell us how the term emerged according to your knowledge.

Christianity Etc › Re: Undeniable Proofs That The God Of The Bible Is The Creator Of The Universe by FxMasterz(op): 2:47pm On Jul 12, 2023

Benfaco:
The love of God for us

John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

When Adam sinned, he lost the direct access he initially had with God. (Genesis 3) God decided to send his only begotten son (Jesus) to pay the price for our sins on the cross of calvary because of his love for us. When Christ resurrected, he restored all privileges that we once had and brought redemption to us all. All we need is to believe that he died for our sin and has once again granted us direct access with God. No longer through an intermediary! (Mathew 27:50-53).

Jeremiah 29:11
For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope.

If our earthly parents care so much for us, how much more our father in heaven! (Luke 11:11-13). God’s love for us is infinite. He has promised to supply all our needs according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. (Philipians 4:19).

Prayer of Salvation

Lord Jesus, I accept and acknowledge you as my personal lord and savior. I sincerely ask that you forgive my sins. Come into my life and pour out your spirit on me. By faith, I receive the promise of the father, which is the holy spirit. (John 14:16) I thank you for the price that you paid for me on the cross of calvary. Thank you for my redemption. I pray that your power, grace and favor will abide with me now and forever more. Amen.

Christianity Etc › Re: Even If I See Evidence For Christian God, I Will Still Not worship Him by FxMasterz: 2:42pm On Jul 12, 2023

What concerns Him whether you serve Him or not? He'll watch you while expecting you to repent, the same way He's watching Satan. After giving you a long rope to pull as He's currently giving Satan, He'll bring you to judgement the same way He'll judge Satan and all those who reject God. Live your life the way you want as Satan is living his. He has given you a choice just as He has given Satan. The day you would die, you'll discover that your life does not belong to you. You'll have no power to prolong your life as you wish. The Owner would come for it at the time appointed.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by FxMasterz: 11:59am On Jul 11, 2023*

LegalWolf:
You’re clutching on straws. Objectively, if that word ever exists in your dictionary, where would you expect me to get who coined the word Samaritan.

Cc: potential thief TenQ

I want you to get who coined the word because it was historically recorded. Get it bro. Truth is bitter.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by FxMasterz: 4:54pm On Jul 10, 2023

LegalWolf:
You’re clutching on straws. Objectively, if that word ever exists in your dictionary, where would you expect me to get who coined the word Samaritan.

Cc: potential thief TenQ

The man who coined the term Samaria which is the root of the word Samaritan is vividly recorded in history. You know why you're avoiding the answer.

Anyway, let me help you a bit. See screenshot below for the time of the emergence of the Samaritans according to tradition.

Now tell me how the term Samaritan came to used before the emergence of the Samaritans themselves.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Members Stand Up When A Pastor Preaching Comes Close To Them? by FxMasterz: 4:21pm On Jul 10, 2023

TemplarLandry:
Junkie boy will come here for sure.

No one even knows his gender. He answers to both he and she.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by FxMasterz: 3:00pm On Jul 10, 2023

LegalWolf:
Always making infantile arguments, and I meant not ti be direspectful.

I do actually.

The person who coined Samaria as a city or Samaritan as a name of ethno-religious group? Would you die if you stop lying? And where you expecting me to go and meet Moses (pbuh) or his fellow Jewish folks that 'in your days, did they ever refer to keepers of Torah as Samaritans'?

And by the ways, refer back to my questions and this back-and-forth nonsense just shows you've got no point .

cc: future thief Tenq

If you can provide the source as well as the period the word came to be in use , I'll answer your questions even though they're irrelevant to this discussion.

You don't want to go and meet Moses to ask if the term was in use in his days? Do you actually have to? Was it Moses who actually told you that there was a Samaritan in his entourage? Why are you trying to avoid the reality of this argument? If you cannot tell us who coined the term Samaritan as a religious group and also tell us the time the term came to be in use, then you should accept your claim as false. Allah goofed big time.

Now, according to your sources, when did the term Samaritan emerge? Before, during or after Moses' time? Who coined the word? Mohammed has been busted.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by FxMasterz: 10:13am On Jul 10, 2023

LegalWolf:
You’re the one yarning dust.

It’s preposterous to claim Torah existed before Moses. And what I’m pointing you to is that it is false to claim:
1. Torah did not exist at the time of Moses (only a potential thief like TenQ could make that statement) and

2. “Guardian of the Torah” does not exist at the time of Moses.

I should prove at what point Samaritans start referring to themselves as the keepers of Torah? Really?

Cc: future thief TenQ

Points one and two are inconsequential as regards this discussion. No one cares about that.

What we care about is the time the use of the term 'Samaritan' came into efect. You can't tell me you don't understand the question. The person who coined the term is Omri. Agreeing that there was a keeper or observers of the Torah in Moses' days, did they ever refer to them as Samaritans at the time? Did Omri coin the term before, during or after Moses' time? Stop dribbling.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by FxMasterz: 9:20am On Jul 10, 2023

LegalWolf:
LOL - like the future thief TenQ you keep lurking yo clear issues.

You claim that the Torah was not in existence, and even TenQ argued that Torah came into existence after Moses death. Apparently, Jewish tradition disagrees with you and we must agree with this fact that Torah was revealed to Moses at my sinai (whether in written or a oral form). This is sacrosanct to our point.

In essence, and contrary to your position, Torah came into existence at the Time of Moses at Mount Sinai.

Is that agreed?

I should prove the words that were used during the time of Moses or not. Even yhwh can’t do it. Is this a joke to you?

Cc: future thief TenQ sirtee15 fxmasterz

Lol. Dodging as usual.

Let's even agree that the Torah was in existent before Moses, okay? Let's just agree that way to make things extremely easier for you. We already know that the Torah can't predate Moses who is the source of the Torah, but for your sake, we'll agree that the Torah existed before Moses.

At what point did they start referring to some keepers or observers of the Torah as Samaritans? You can see that allah goofed big time.

No one is telling you to prove any word. Stop dribbling. Tell us how Moses came about the word Samaritan. Who coined that word. According to the tradition of the Samaritans? when did the word Samaria come into existence?

Family › Re: Story Of My Life And Lessons To Learn. by FxMasterz: 3:53am On Jul 10, 2023

pstemma1990:
Happy Sunday

Please drop your phone number. I'll chat you up to pray for you.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by FxMasterz: 2:18am On Jul 10, 2023

LegalWolf:
LOL

Where did you get this insinuation from?

What’s your source for the underlined ?

Cc: future thief TenQ

Didn't your Quran reference Moses as saying a Samaritan caused the Israelites to sacrifice to an idol? I just told you the exact time that incident happened in Jewish history.

Just prove right now that the term Samaritan was in use in Moses' time. We're not asking you to prove whether a Samaritan existed at the time or not. What we know is that Moses cannot use a term that was coined about 1,300yrs after his death. Prove to us that the term was in use in the days of Moses.

Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Origin Of Demons - The Pre-adamic Race by FxMasterz: 8:48pm On Jul 09, 2023

LordIsaac:
The Bible supercedes all past and future scientific discoveries!

Yes! And that's what the OP has just proven.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by FxMasterz: 8:34pm On Jul 09, 2023

TenQ:
The Torah consist of Five books, one of the books contain the account of the worship of the golden calf. How can LegalWolf's Samaritan be a custodian of a book which has not been written.
But LegalWolf will claim you agreed to his False Representation as fact. If you claim to agree to his lies and misinformation you must be careful to clarify your point. I know him better than he knows himself. A Fruad he is like his prophet.

One thing I happy about is that at this point except he is deluding himself, he know quite well that Allah goofed big time about the Samaritan. If Allah goofed, he cannot be God!

That's the point now. A Samaritan cannot be a keeper or observer of a book that has not been written. I already told him that. Now, he wants to know how I knew that the book hadn't been written at the time. I have made him to understand that Moses was just coming from the mountain where he received for the first time, the two tables of stone that contained the 10 commandments which formed the core of the Torah. I made him know that the tablets were even broken immediately Moses saw the golden calf attributed to the the Samaritan by his allah.

I have also told him that, even if the Torah had existed at the term, the observers or keepers of the Torah wouldn't be called Samaritans until Omri coined the word about 1,300 yrs later.

So, no matter his position, his Mohammed is in the mud for his lies.

Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Origin Of Demons - The Pre-adamic Race by FxMasterz: 8:15pm On Jul 09, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
Guy i am one of Jehovah's Witnesses, the whole Bible contains 66 books, 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses. There is nowhere a pre-Adamic race was ever mentioned or cited in the entire Bible.
Jesus never mentioned something like that so get it that the OP is subtly condemning the Bible!

Guy. If you canmot refute the Jeremiah and Peter references, stop quoting me. This isn't a sect or denominational discussion.

Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Origin Of Demons - The Pre-adamic Race by FxMasterz: 8:11pm On Jul 09, 2023

Maynmann:
Then next time use your sense and not jump on a conversation you were not invited in.

Spirit means breathe, in the jewish books you are gobbling, demons are called shedim, and are not evil.
Indoctrinated christian!

Another insult again.

Bye. God bless you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Origin Of Demons - The Pre-adamic Race by FxMasterz: 8:11pm On Jul 09, 2023

Maynmann:
Yes he did, he said 2 separate events and there was no such thing.

I can also see through my mind, i am not my mind.
The Old Testament you are gobbling up was taken from babylonian and Mesopotamia mythology.

You are so desperate, “are you okay” is now an insult? You are the one immature here.
I was on my own and you quoted me, and you started saying jargons that you are not interested in arguments; who send you in the first place?

Please go and go basking in your jewish books, you are a nobody, who is interested in you?!,
remember you quoted me first.

Keep gobbling up jewish books

Bye. Thanks.

Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Origin Of Demons - The Pre-adamic Race by FxMasterz: 8:10pm On Jul 09, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
Mention the name of a person in pre-Adamic race!

So instead of bringing the Bible into your heresy just say you're confused over what others say, there was no pre-Adamic race that's why the first name mentioned in the beginning is Adam and Eve!

Go and read the Jeremiah and Peter references first and come back.

God's attention is particularly on the Adamic race. The pre-adamic race only received slight mentions in the Bible. Don't ask me for names. No one talked about names. We're just given an hint that makes us know where demons came from.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by FxMasterz: 8:07pm On Jul 09, 2023

TenQ:
The place he quoted didn't even call the Samaritans keeper of the Torah.
Even then, the Torah didn't exist until the death of Moses.

Either way, the Samaritan building the golden calf is a LIE. As the Torah didn't exist at that time.

Don't mind legalwolf. I just want to use his own words to rope him in. I'm agreeing to all the lies and misinformation knowing that at the end of the day, even the lies would be counterproductive for his position.

Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Origin Of Demons - The Pre-adamic Race by FxMasterz: 8:06pm On Jul 09, 2023

Maynmann:
You clearly don’t know anything. The Jewish creation story is an ALLEGORY.
Go and read the underlined and come back.

I have nothing to discuss with you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Origin Of Demons - The Pre-adamic Race by FxMasterz: 8:04pm On Jul 09, 2023

Maynmann:
Whatever you said is your own, the facts in the Jewish books are there.

And i was on my own when you quoted me, are you okay?
And i was talking to the Op, who made a mistake of calling the earth in genesis 1:1 a planet where demons lived.
Then you LIED that spirits cant die and are immortal, show me a verse that says so you haven’t.

I only told you the OP didn't call the earth a planet.

I can see through your mind. All you want to do is prove that the Bible and science do not agree even when the OP has proved beyond reasonable doubt they do.

I'm not going to argue with you.

You said Christians insult you before you insult them when I once accused you of being immature in argument. Have I now insulted you for you to start telling me "are you okay?"

Please go and rest. I don't have anything to discuss with you. I'm not interested.

Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Origin Of Demons - The Pre-adamic Race by FxMasterz: 7:59pm On Jul 09, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
Guy no intelligent creature live on this planet before Adam and Eve there is no pre-Adamic race so the OP is wrong!

But the Bible says so. Read the Jeremiah and Peter reference again in the OP. Science also says so. At least discoveries have been made. Your opinion does not matter.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Origin Of Demons - The Pre-adamic Race by FxMasterz: 7:50pm On Jul 09, 2023

Maynmann:
You don’t understand the books you are gobbling on.
Bible means books, and your Old Testament belongs to JUDAISM, they call it tanankh.

What do you even think “christian” mean?
What do you think “bible” means?
The “theo” in theological what do you think it means?
Just regurgitating what they told you, nothing new.

Those books are JEWISH BOOKS.

You've not told me anything I don't already know. I'm not disputing what you've just said. So, let's lay the matter to rest.

Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Origin Of Demons - The Pre-adamic Race by FxMasterz: 7:49pm On Jul 09, 2023

Maynmann:
First go and learn what those underlined words mean then come back.

Remember you are reading Jewish books that is talking about their israelite god, yahweh.

Everything I have said so far about skies and ground as related to Genesis 1 are not contradictory to the underlined. I refuse to be drawn into unevesary argument.

First, you came talking about ground not planets. I told you we're talking the same thing. After confirming that, you want to start arguing about something else. I'm actually not interested in arguments.

Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Origin Of Demons - The Pre-adamic Race by FxMasterz: 7:44pm On Jul 09, 2023

Maynmann:
You don’t understand the jewish books you are reading, but you using your doctrine interpretation.

First learn what “theos” means, before you talk on “theological”, just saying words you lack meaning on.

You can't understand the Bible the same way I do. You're not a Christian, are you? I Iive in and breathe the Bible. You don't.

Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Origin Of Demons - The Pre-adamic Race by FxMasterz: 7:36pm On Jul 09, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is the reason why i told you the OP is subtly condemning the Bible!

The opening words of the Bible said:
"IN THE BEGINNING"
So where did you and your friend (OP) find the world BEFORE THE BEGINNING?

The OP is right and not condemning the Bible.

There was a beginning when God created heaven and Earth. He didn't create the earth to be chaotic. The earth eventually because chaotic. Then He moved in verse do to cotrect the chaos. Please go and read the OP again and this time, do it more slowly. You're jumping into hasty conclusions without even comprehending what he wrote.

Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Origin Of Demons - The Pre-adamic Race by FxMasterz: 7:33pm On Jul 09, 2023

Maynmann:
The darkness was on the face of what?, if he is to separate darkness from light,, on which basis will he do that?
Is it not Within The deep covered with darkness ?

Darkness was upon the face of what?

Spirit means BREATHE/WIND.
Your omnipotent god can’t do something without his spirit, did he create the spirit, or they both existed the same time?

Start reading from 1:6, your god “made” everything from the deep water, he didn’t create anything.
Also genesis 1:1 was talking about SKIES and GROUND.

I don't need to argue with you. All what you're saying are based on your personal opinion which are theologically incorrect.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Wisdom Of Allah's Law Of Retribution (A Bad copy Of the Law Of Moses)? by FxMasterz: 7:30pm On Jul 09, 2023

LegalWolf:
Can you discuss a term without its meaning?

You and TenQ with your useless hallucinations. Even per biblical accounts, Moses spoke to yhwh on at least three occasions. Or was it just once that Moses spoke to yhwh and he gave him the Torah?

So what gives you the proof that this event occurred before the Torah was given to Moses?

Lol, it’s the audacity for me !

You'll first discuss the term before the meaning.

The incident recorded by Mohammed was the first time Moses went to receive the tables of stone containing the 10 commandments. The Torah wasn't in existence then.

Moreso, the term Samaritan, even if it means keeper of the Torah, was never in use in Moses' time! The term was coined by Omri.

Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Origin Of Demons - The Pre-adamic Race by FxMasterz: 7:24pm On Jul 09, 2023

LordIsaac:
My Bible told me that "IN THE BEGINNING..." God created Adam and Eve....I think that's all I need to know about the first human beings God created.

That assertion is wrong. Scientific discoveries have found out that this is not true.

Christianity Etc › Re: Understanding The Origin Of Demons - The Pre-adamic Race by FxMasterz: 7:23pm On Jul 09, 2023

MaxInDHouse:
According to God's word Adam is dead {Genesis 3:19} and all his descendants have inherited death through him {Romans 5:12} so anyone saying something survived man at death is promoting what Satan told Eve "you will not die completely" Genesis 3:4 Adam and Eve died completely and nothing survived them except their children who inherited sin and death through them! Romans 3:23

Guy no one lives in any form after death that's what makes resurrection a reality [John 5:28-29 compare to Act 24:15] if they're not completely dead their resurrection will make no sense after all they're alive somewhere!

They are formerly faithful and obedient angels that descended to mate with female humans before the flood {2Peter 2:4} they were restricted from having anything further to do in heaven after their disobedience so they have nowhere to go other than planet earth.
God only created the heaven and the intelligent beings He made there are angels {Job 38:7} He also created the earth and the intelligent beings He made here are humans {Psalms 115:16} there are no other intelligent beings elsewhere!

Totally wrong and practically unbiblical.

You should have said that the references I made of Moses, Elljah, etc are not in the Bible.

Where in the OP did the post say there are other intelligence beings inhabiting our world. The OP was talking about a world before a world for crying out loud.

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