There are several things on this earthly plane that can only be experienced subjectively. Orgasm and Spirituality are some of them.
The fact that you as a person has never experienced orgasm does not mean that orgasm does not exist. The more you call the people who have experienced it fools, the more foolish and idiotic you sound.
This same analogy applies to spirituality. When someone says God whom I have personally experienced and still experiencing does not exist, I see them as fools. They're playing with fire. Serious fire for that matter!
TenQ: There is no thread yet for these: but it is obvious, isn't it.
Mohammed's father's name is Abdullah (Servant of Allah) and he was an Idolater. The God of Mohammed is the God of the Kaaba aka the God of the Father of Mohammed. This had been upgraded as the God of the Jews and Christians
A thread on this would be an eye opening thread especially if it is backed with relevant texts as you always do.
It seems you don't even understand that sin is a wicked master from whom you must be saved.
TenQ: There is no thread yet for these: but it is obvious, isn't it.
Mohammed's father's name is Abdullah (Servant of Allah) and he was an Idolater. The God of Mohammed is the God of the Kaaba aka the God of the Father of Mohammed. This had been upgraded as the God of the Jews and Christians
A thread on this would be an eye opening thread especially if it is backed with relevant texts as you always do.
TenQ: The definition of Arrogance is never positive but negative.
An Arrogant person is one who has or reveals a continuous exaggerated sense of his own importance or abilities.
How can God be Arrogant?
They can't deny this as Muslims are Mumin (Believers) and thus Al-Mumin is the Believer
Muslims with lies that eventually lead the into trouble began to manufacture names for their God and they didn't know when they gave him names that limit him to the level of mortal men.
Janosky: The oldest Bible, older than ALL English language Bibles by more than a thousand years. @ John 1:1 rendition: " the word was a god."
Exodus 6:3 + Psalm 83:18 KJV, the God Almighty, Jehovah is NOT anybody's son.
Acts 3:13, Jesus Christ is his Son/Servant
What does the Greek Bible say? Was the Bible originally written in English? Should we not expect more errors in the first translations? The reason why there are revised translations is because the translators saw the need to correct the errors of the previous translations. The oldest translation therefore would be more errornous than the latest translations because the former is an attempt to upgrade the latter to a state of more accuracy.
Attached is the interlinear Greek translation of john 1:1.
SIRTee15: She's really struggling. Obviously she entered that religion because of the tag Mrs, nothing more. Now she has realised what other Muslim converts also later realise. Islam is shallow and lack substance.
All to Islam is believe in one God and follow a false prophet whose character can only be defended and sustained thru threat, violence and intimidation.
I tell you bro.
To understand Venessa7, we must first see through the stages she must have passed through before arriving at her current destination. These are the most likely stages:
1. Prolonged marital delay leading to frustration.
2. Decided to marry a Muslim since no Christian was looking her way.
3. Became a Muslim by marriage, not through conviction or any definite encounter.
4. Began feeling guilty of abandoning Jesus.
5. Couldn't bring herself to leave the marriage.
6. Began rationalizing things for self justification through self deceit, irrational extrapolations and defective reasonings.
She was first in a state of confusion and guilt. Moved from there to a state of self-suggestion telling herself that she'll make heaven after trying very hard to see and put God in Islam. I can say with utmost confidence that her idea of heaven is not Islamic but Christian. She's hoping to make the Christian heaven, not the Islamic heaven of the 72 virgins.
When you keep telling your mind a lie, it would soon look like truth through continuous reinforcements. That's the stage she is now. May she find deliverance because once you go far in self deceit, demons must eventually take over, making you to strongly believe the lies you've been telling yourself. The goal is to make you a sure candidate of hell.
Vanessa7, do the blood of Rams you kill in Islam truly wash away your sins? The blood of Rams is better than the blood of Jesus who made one eternal sacrifice to save all who come to God through Him?
And may the Lord have mercy on the souls of those already Deceived by Satan thinking that they are on the way to Paradise while not knowing that they've been Misled by the best Deceiver?
TenQ: See these guys: they hate the truth like plague.
They would rather hold on to lies than examine the truth before them.
Why do Muslims think that God is a Believer ?
We take a position of belief only when we are not 100% certain of a conclusion but we have reasonable fact to place our bet on an outcome in the future?
Unfortunately, Muslims would not think and reason that it is satan who need to believe that he can manage to triumph in future against God.
If they do not want to consider any of the 5 names you exposed on this thread, a right thinking person would at least consider these two names:
1. The Arrogant: To whom is God arrogant? Some equals or some superiors? Only creatures can become arrogant. Not the Creator.
2. The Believer: God is a Believer in what or whom? God doesn't have to believe because He is all-knowing. Only creatures can become believers by exercising faith and conviction in things unknown. Not the Creator.
If they feel that other names are deliberate insults, these two names should disturb the true seekers.
TenQ: Satan disguising himself as Jibril aka the Best Deceiver aka the Distresser aka the Humiliator aka the Arrogant
No Angel appeared to Paul Sir. Mohammed was one who claimed an angel appeared to him.
By the way: Why did you not answer my Questions: are you afraid of knowing the truth?
Questions: 1. Do you think it is possible that God be Arrogant ? To whom then will God be arrogant to as one can only be arrogant either to ones peers or superior.
2. Why do you think that God is a Believer ? Do you agree that we take a position of belief only when we are not 100% certain of a conclusion but we have reasonable fact to place our bet on an outcome in the future
3. If God is the author of Distress , why do we attribute our problems to Satan?
4. Why do you think that the objective of God is to Humiliate us if he actually commanded even the Angels to bow to man?
5. Did Muhammed know what Allah would do to him? If he doesnt as the one showing you the way, can you be sure he has not been deceived?
6. How are you sure that the Greatest of all Deceivers has no deceived you from the way of truth?
God bless you brother for this great exposition. I respect the wisdom of God upon your life for excellent presentation.
May God continue to use you in this ministry to rescue the perishing and deliver those bound in darkness by satan the best of deceivers.
delkuf: I had this argument recently with a jw and he showed me some bible verses that angel Michael is Jesus Christ. I must confess this guy almost won me and over with his argument. So I want to ask, can anyone bring out bible verses to refute this claim.
I believe that the Lord Jesus Christ can never be angel Michael. I just want bible verses to refute this because the jw is coming on Saturday to continue this argument
There are several verses of scripture that you can use. These are some of them:
1 Timothy 2:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
John 1 also makes us to know that Jesus is the Word of God. Not an angel.
Isaiah 9:6 says the Son that would be born to us would be called the the Mighty God, the Everlasting Father among other names. No angel can be so called.
SIRTee15: What I see here is extrapolation of biblical doctrines into Islam which is common among modern age Muslims. However since u were once an ex Christian and now a Muslim, I would appreciate if u answer this question honestly. We Christian believe Muhammed is a false prophet because he fails to fulfil the prophethood criteria according to the Abrahamic faith. He failed in most criteria. Can u show me in the bible evidence that proves Muhammed is a true prophet of God, I'm talking of evidence not some subjective rationality. It's ok if u produce koranic evidence so long as such can be seen in the biblical prophets.
You captured it.
Many of her views are coloured with Christian doctrines which no Muslim would accept. Vanessa7 cannot say it anywhere in a Muslim gathering that the Holy Spirit lives in her, or that she is being atoned by the blood of Rams. Even Antichristian would disagree with her. In short, she's neither a Christian nor a Muslim. She's just trying to be something, mostly taking a position to justify herself for forsaking Jesus. Was Jesus real to her? Of cause He was. She can't deny that? Did Jesus die? Of cause she knows He did? Did Jesus resurrect? Of course, she has witnessed the power of His resurrection live and direct except what she wrote up there are outright lies as I have earlier assumed.
With all the little things I know about the Quran; how Allah does not know that Mariam the sister of Aaron is different from Mary the mother of Jesus, how Allah does not know that there was no Samaritan whatsoever in the days of Moses, how Allah does not know that Jacob and Israel are the same person, and many more such avoidable blunders. How can she prove to me that the Quran is the pure word of God? Infact, I'm earnestly seeking genuine answers because I don't know how these issues can exist in a so called book dictated by God, and the adherents keep following even without the answers.
beekind: Thousands of people some with even better life than most are dieing on the seas attempting to become illegal immigrants in Europe.
I bet more than half of those on this platform will give an arm and a leg to be able to wash toilets in North America.
While there are obviously other advantages to it like the possibility of marriage(although not guaranteed).
The prospect of dual citizenship is enough considering the alternative and the reality on ground.
You're trying to take advantage of her because of her condition, It's so simple, This is absolutely unacceptable. Put yourself in her shoes. Is the girl in question that useless and hopeless? You're even bragging as if you're doing her some good!
Things like this made me hate Nigerian politicians more especially the northern politicians. Look at the situation we’ve found ourselves today in this country. These are children fighting for a plate of food left by someone in guru market, yobe state.
This is what Islam breeds in Nigeria, POVERTY, HOPELESSNESS, TERRORISM, CRIME, DEJECTION.....Look at the richest man in Africa Dangote from the north and a muslim, look at most Nigeria politicians from the north and Muslim, now look at the northerners and the Muslims in the north, they are Kept in poverty, education is taken away from them, they are struggling too eat once in three days because of what their islamist brothers have conditioned them to be..slaves in the disguise of religion...SLAVES
That's the truth. When you go online in search of the 20 best countries to live in in the world. All are Christian countries. No Muslim country makes the list.
TenQ: Unfortunately, if you write a post on this, the Muslim jihadists will prevail on NairaLand admin to ban it. Allah certainly has five names of his 99 names he shares with satan: unfortunately Muslims seem not to care to think about it
TenQ: They noted that it was a profitable business. SCAM the Jamaa to have cheap foot soldiers
The Muslims will steal, kill and destroy to build the Clerics and entrench them in both governance and business.
I think a second intention is to have a religion they can use to counter Israel-originated religions especially Christianity. Being enemies of Israel, they'll find that amusing.
I found a video on YouTube where an Arabian Christian exposed Allah as satan using 5 names out of the 99 names of allah.
advocatejare: That was why his followers didn’t allow him to write that final note he wanted to write, they were like “you scammed us for many years, it’s not now that you will repent, we will continue to scam after you “
judedwriter: Ezekiel 28 ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¹³ Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
¹⁴ Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
¹⁵ Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
What is the anointing?
1. The anointing is the power of God released through the manifestation of His presence.
How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; FOR GOD WAS WITH HIM. — Acts 10:38
2. The anointing is divine empowerment for serving God:
I have found David my servant; with my holy oil have I anointed him. — Psalms 89:20
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised. — Luke 4:18 3. The anointing is the burden removing, yoke destroying power of God:
And it shall come to pass in that day, that his burden shall be taken away from off thy shoulder, and his yoke from off thy neck, and the yoke shall be destroyed because of the anointing. — Isaiah 10:27
4. The anointing is personified by the Holy Spirit; the Holy Spirit is the power of God.
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. — 1 John 2:27
The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee... — Luke 1:35
Our opening biblical text described a once glorious cherub covering God's throne.
God created him most perfectly and most beautifully; and he was gifted with astounding musical talents: he had musical instruments infused in his body as he led the myriads of angels to praise God.
He was giving the honorable position of: "the anointed cherub that covereth" meaning his wings stretched over God's throne. He was the guardian of God's throne.
He was called "anointed" because he had direct access to God's presence. He stood or danced in God's presence ministering praises to Him. As a result, he was powerfully anointed by God's powerful presence.
He also shone most gloriously (with precious stones) by God's glorious presence.
A vital secret of the anointing is praises to God.
If you can praise God effectively, He will anoint you powerfully.
And that anointing will destroy your yokes, remove your burdens, beautify you, glorify you, increase you, exalt you, honour you, make you favoured, perfect you and empower you greatly for God's services.
Throughout the scriptures, wherever there is hearty praises and worship, the power of God is always manifested.
Those who know how to praise God would be the carriers of His Presence. Those who carry His Presence would manifest the Presence. The Presence of God is the most important asset of a believer.
judedwriter: Ezekiel 28 ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¹³ Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
¹⁴ Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
¹⁵ Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
What is the anointing?
1. The anointing is the power of God released through the manifestation of His presence.
How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; FOR GOD WAS WITH HIM. — Acts 10:38
2. The anointing is divine empowerment for serving God:
I have found David my servant; with my holy oil have I anointed him. — Psalms 89:20
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised. — Luke 4:18 3. The anointing is the burden removing, yoke destroying power of God:
And it shall come to pass in that day, that his burden shall be taken away from off thy shoulder, and his yoke from off thy neck, and the yoke shall be destroyed because of the anointing. — Isaiah 10:27
4. The anointing is personified by the Holy Spirit; the Holy Spirit is the power of God.
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. — 1 John 2:27
The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee... — Luke 1:35
Our opening biblical text described a once glorious cherub covering God's throne.
God created him most perfectly and most beautifully; and he was gifted with astounding musical talents: he had musical instruments infused in his body as he led the myriads of angels to praise God.
He was giving the honorable position of: "the anointed cherub that covereth" meaning his wings stretched over God's throne. He was the guardian of God's throne.
He was called "anointed" because he had direct access to God's presence. He stood or danced in God's presence ministering praises to Him. As a result, he was powerfully anointed by God's powerful presence.
He also shone most gloriously (with precious stones) by God's glorious presence.
A vital secret of the anointing is praises to God.
If you can praise God effectively, He will anoint you powerfully.
And that anointing will destroy your yokes, remove your burdens, beautify you, glorify you, increase you, exalt you, honour you, make you favoured, perfect you and empower you greatly for God's services.
Thanks for the message.
Lucifer's closeness to God made him extremely powerful. He grew proud and was abased.
God's Presence is contagious. If you get close to God, you'll carry the Divine Aroma around like a heavenly perfume. The devils would see you and tremble. When that happens, keep humble. Why should you fall like Lucifer did?
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preciousee17: MaxInDHouse let me mention you now, Why are you so obsessed with my replies? Even when you drew a line twice.
Every single question I ask, you carefully avoid, and find a way to sneak in your punchline: WE ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE DOING JESUS' COMMAND.
What kind of argument works when you keep on dodging responses? The funny part is that you know that your answer will implicate you both ways.
You end up saying I came to attack you and your Church, you don't know there's a lot to attack if I actually wanted to try.
What you (all JWs) don't always want to point out is these two things:
1. They were taught never to say anything that implicates them for any reason. True or false. They are even encouraged to lie if it protects the interest of their Organization. Ask them. • That's why the leaders with sex scandals never confess • That's why they're watching what they say about their founder • That's why Max didn't comment on his brother using f-word • That's why they can't even question their leaders (that's another doctrine on it's own • That's why they refuse to associate with anyone who left (again, another doctrine of it's own)
2. They were taught that no other Church is true other than them. I wonder who said it, God? JESUS? So while y'all are arguing and it seems they're trying to convince you with some scriptures, you don't know the true motives, that their leaders said, THEY ARE THE ONLY TRUE FOLLOWERS AND THE REST ARE INFIDELS — Hence the pride... The same Freemason leaders that gave a bundle of false prophecies? And later claim it's a spiritual stuff...
I just argue and I carry on like I don't know these things, so you keep dodging without informing us why? The day that you're ready to drop church doctrines and carry only a Bible, I'll be ready to argue.
All these useless claims of fruits, I wish I had the grace to follow you up. You say we should shun your doctrines first and check the fruits? I would have asked you to come to my state or tell a JW in my state to attend my Church for a month and point out a single fruit/gift that we do not have, and after following up for a month, tell us one doctrine that we teach that still seems false. The only problem is that you'll be shunned for the rest of your life by your church if you tried.
After I gave you claims that I know Churches that may not have false messages, the first thing you point out is that they don't worship together, implying they're still false? See how reasonable you sound? The Book of Revelations addresses several churches, I wonder how y'all couldn't understand that there's different categories of Churches. True believers!
The funniest part is that the only glue that keeps you guys together is the fear of being shunned.
You say I came to attack your Church, don't you know there's much to attack if I actually wanted to try. Meanwhile it's quite the opposite, I mentioned the name of my Church and you dragged me to a direction-less journey.
FxMasterz Courz
I love some two cogent points you made:
1, "The funniest part is that the only glue that keeps you guys together is the fear of being shunned."
2. "THEY ARE THE ONLY TRUE FOLLOWERS AND THE REST ARE INFIDELS" - Brainwashing
You just highlighted the 2 common characteristics found in all cults. No cult can succeed without using fear and indoctrination to control its members. You would also see this in Islam.
Courz: Hahahaha. Anyone would deny such a personality in public. But get this, do you know that their publications always mention Charles Taze Russell? When you read their publications, they paint Russell with so many good words, talking about how he searched for Bible truth, Truth that have now expired. They paint him so well. Their videos about their history have Russell in them. If you go to their Headquarters, they have a library they proudly showcase all the books that Russell wrote. All of them! They showcase him with pride. Yet, in public they deny him so that, as you said Gullible people who don't know anything will fall for their antics.
How does it make sense that you include him in your History and show him proudly in your videos and publications but you deny him in public? Why do you have to lie like that?
I am very sorry, I have to do like that because I am ashamed of him. - Maxindhouse.
MindHacker9009: Then some hundreds of years later the Roman empire a pagan nation like the ones YHWH told the nation of Israel to replace, came to Israel to replace the Isrealites from Israel. This goes to show that victors of war wrote most of the Bible if not a True God will not replace a pagan nation with a righteous nation and later replace the same righteous nation with a pagan nation.
Which Roman nation replaced the Israelites? Did you go to school at all?
The Israelites commuted the same abominations as those Amorites, and for that reason, God punished them by displacing them from their lands, and scattering them all over the world. However, for the sake of Abraham who was a righteous man, He promised that they would be regathered. He scattered and gathered them once and again. The final scattering happened in AD 70, and the final regathering happened in 1948.
MindHacker9009: Nothing devilish in exposing the evil that were done by men in the Bible and for you to be making excuses for such makes you the one who is very very devilish.
For every war israel fought, there was a just cause.
The people were murderous, practised sodomy and even sacrificed their children to idols, making them pass walk through the fire alive to go meet their gods. The practice was abominable to God. He waited 500yrs for them to repent and desist from such abominations. When they remained adamant and were increasingly iniquitous, God had to replace them with another nation who would be more righteous. He then even warned Israel that if they do the same things that those nations did, they'll suffer the same fate.
500yrs before the event, this is what God told Abraham:
Genesis 15:16 "After four generations your descendants will return here to this land, for the sins of the Amorites do not yet warrant their destruction.”
MindHacker9009: Almighty God did not write the Bible we have today it was written by men. So it's is important for us to filter out a true mercify Almighty God from the Bible out out all that men have written in it.
No one ever said the Bible was written by Almighty God. Your rants are irrelevant.
Trying to filter out anything by bringing forward false narratives is devilish!
KnownUnknown: Making excuses for the lord, are we? The lord did not receives his share of the teenage and prepubescent girls kidnapped by the “chosen people” because they actually went to the priests.
If “the lord’s” share actually means “the priests’ share”, why is it difficult to realize that “the lord” said actually means “the priests” said?
This god is quickly regarded as nonexistent when it’s barbarity and depravity is shown.
Is Boko Haram allowed to use this excuse or is it reserved for the chosen savages?
The girls of Chibok can become “wives” to imams, “maidservants” or “workers” in the mosque to draw water or serve in any other capacity in the mosque. No rape. Absolutely no sexual deviancy. All holy holy holy.
Israel was a nation fighting for land settlement. God was their president and King who sided then in war as they became a nation. Is Boko Haram a nation fighting against another nation for settlement as a nation? Get off my mention. I hate foolishness.
Christianity Etc › Re: Proof On The Existence Of God by FxMasterz: 10:59am On Sep 03, 2023
