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Lukuluku69:
Werey, do some research.

You can start here on Nairaland since you are always on patrol.

That's what you're known for. You have no time to engage me but you have enough time to shout werey, dumdum, dunce and all your signature curses.

Instead of you to carefully examine the lies of Islam for the sake of your own soul, you see every exposure as an attack. And, you see yourselves as foot soldiers to defend against all exposures without minding that the truth is what matters most. Not religion .

Do you want to lose your soul before you realize that a lie was forced into your hands? Islam was forced upon people as a matter of 'accept islam or die.' They won't even tell you why Allah is God. Just think of a Buddhist forcing Buddha on you without telling you why Buddha is God or what qualifies him to be worshiped by you. The red flags of Islam are all over your Quran and Hadith. Clear warnings that can lead you out of eternal damnation. Yet, you close your eyes and continue walking blindly and adamantly into eternal fire. Allah already said you'll all enter fire. Stop lying to yourself that you'll only cross over a hell bridge. If only you know what hell really is. Hell has no bridge the same way earth has no bridge. Let no one deceive you. Hell comprises all demons (there are trillions of them), fallen angels (billions of them. They're more than the angels in heaven) and Satan, plus all sinful humanity from Adam till now. Think of it, that's several trillions or even quadrillions of beings. It's a place far bigger than the earth in multiple folds, and there's no bridge over it. You think he'll is a walkable distance of few kilometers? How would you even walk over something that's so much expansive with fire burning underneath? Think now. Even Allah didn't mention any bridge over hell. A bridge over hell is impossible and useless. Those are just ignorance induced interpolations.

Those of us who try to warn you and expose the lies of Islam to you, you count for enemies. You pour invectives and throw curses at us; and if you're able to see us physically, you will attempt to silence us as you did Deborah. All for telling you the truth in love and giving you reasons to study the religion again for yourself before making a final decision.

Let me tell you these for free:

1. God made man in His own image. He has no intention of turning anybody into green birds.

2. Hell fire is for Satan and demons, and not for humans. Humans who go there do so because they refuse to get rid of the demons in them. And God cannot admit them into paradise with the demons in them. Demons have no place in paradise.

3. Jesus came as a propitiation for sins. Sin is spiritual filth that needs to be washed away from the soul. That's why you do ablution but only blood can wash sins. Sin is forgiven by God through mercy, but it is also washed away through the blood of cleansing. If you think you don't need purification from sin, why do you do ablutions several times a day? Why do you keep doing ablution if ablution made you clean? You are never clean? That's the message.

4. Mariam was the sister of Aaron. Mohammed confused her with Mary the mother of Jesus. Very easy mistake. He then referred to Mary the mother of Jesus as the sister of Aaron. God wanted to expose him as a liar. See, in all traditions, you can call Mary the daughter of Aaron, but never sister of Aaron. It's not an Arabic or middle eastern tradition or anybody's tradition to call someone the sister of another person born thousands of years ago. No matter how righteous the person is. You can never find any reference anywhere, even in Arabia to justify such. It was a clear error by Mohammed.

5. Omri established Samaria more than 2,000 years after Moses had died. It was the inhabitants of Samaria that were called Samaritans.Hence, Samaritans began to appear in history during the time of Omri king of Israel. Tell me how Moses saw a Samaritan in his days. If not that God wanted to expose Mohammed, he wouldn't make this grave error also. In Moses' days, Israel had not even become a nation, let alone having a city called Samaria with Samaritans living in it.

6. Mohammed knew what he was doing. Islam is Baal worship reinvented. All the activities and symbols of Baal worship are found in Islam including the kissing of the black Stone and the circling of the kaaba. Make your own research. It not by cursing people and pouring invectives.

Please shine your eyes. I cannot be telling you all these in order to merely attack Islam. I am telling you all these because I don't want you to perish.

A religi0n that spread by the sw0rd cannot be from the true God.

Name it, uthman Dan Fidio who spread Islam in Nigeria or the Arabs who spread it in other parts of Africa, or the Ottoman empire who spread it in other parts of the world. All was by sword and bl00d letting. Not love.

This piece if applied will bring peace to your life.

MaxInDHouse:
Abraham gave Melchizedek not because he was given a law rather he did it out of his own freewill the law to give tithe was established after the nation of Israel was formed.
Today we are operating through another highpriest whose priesthood wasn't due to animal sacrifices something that made the Levites service providers in the worship arrangement {Hebrews 7:5-6} so if their services are no longer needed the laws that says they should be paid is gone! Hebrews 7:11-12🙂

Both Abraham and Jacob gave tithes, and their tithes were accepted. Jesus still receives tithes in heaven. It's not a prerequisite for salvation but it is a sacrifice of a sweet smelling savour before God. Which child of God would deny his Father the opportunity of such a sweet smelling sacrifice, and any other sweet smelling sacrifices that the Father delights in?

MaxInDHouse:
So we have nothing to do with the laws of tithe given to the nation of Israel which was established through circumcision!🙂

Tithing law was not established through circumcision. Abraham and Jacob gave tithes ever before the law was established.

MaxInDHouse:
Is Leviticus talking to Christians or nation of Israel?🙂

Romans 2:28-29

"28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God."

Philippians 3:3:

"For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh"

LordReed:
No evidence?

And isn't interesting to note that chapters 40-55 which involve Cyrus are dated to 6th century BCE which is also when the Cyrus cylinder is also dated.

BTW Cyrus credits his god Marduk for his victory.

Yes, no evidence. All are just arguments and observations of people who were not alive at the time the book was written. No evidence that someone else wrote parts of Isaiah. I myself write in different styles. If I change my style tomorrow, you would say someone else wrote my posts? That's why such cannot be said to be evidence. It's just too myopic.

You're claiming a different date for Isaiah 45? Are you a revisionist?

MaxInDHouse:
Scriptures please!🙂

Leviticus 27:30, which states, "A tithe of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the Lord; it is holy to the Lord," and Proverbs 3:9,

"Honor the Lord with your wealth, with the firstfruits of all your crops."

Everything you have belongs to the Lord, and a tithe is a statement made to God to indicate this.

Truthseeker10:
So how can I be in agreement with other worshippers of God if I don't associate with them?

Who asked you not to associate with them? Is simple English too hard for you?

Associate with them but your association is not a passport to paradise.

MaxInDHouse:
What exactly did he receive?
Is it their material possessions?

I told you Jesus is the Highpriest so when did he receive money or any material possessions as tithe from anyone?

Well if you must know the tithe true believers are paying today is the time we spend in preaching and teaching that is the only thing that Jesus receives from us not money that's why you will always see Jehovah's Witnesses spending their time in the field ministry because whoever is not doing that work has refused to pay his tithe to Jesus our highpriest.🙂

True Believes pay the tithe of everything given to them by God including their material possessions.

LordReed:
FxMasterz ask AI how many authors the book of Isaiah had.

People who were not there when the book was written are arguing that it was written by more than 3 authors. Just as people who are not alive today can later come in 70 years time to allege that your Nairaland posts were written by several authors. Who cares about their arguments that have no evidence?

The general Christian and Jewish consensus supports a single authorship.

Truthseeker10:
So you're saying that I can worship God in disagreement with his other worshippers and be saved?

You found that disagreement in your own head as I never ever said that.

Truthseeker10:
So are Christians required to worship God together in agreement?

It is not a requirement for salvation. Salvation is an individual striving.

Truthseeker10:
What does it mean to "fear God" and "work righteousness"?

I have helped you ask Google. You can also do it yourself.

MaxInDHouse:
So you only said that based on assumption!😟

Well Jesus is the Highpriest himself that is why he never paid tithe to anyone and he condemned those receiving it because they failed to make good use of the arrangements! Matthew 23:23

After Christianity was established all the services of priests in the temple ended that is what brought an end to tithing in Christianity! Hebrews 7:5-12

You and false doctrines are like 5 & 6. And, the most dangerous thing you churn out falsehoods with blatant disregard for whatever God's Word says. See how you are using the superior priesthood of Christ to represent that tithing ended when the same Hebrew chapter 7 established that:

"Here mortal men receive tithes, but there (in heaven) He (Jesus) receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives" Hebrews 7:8.

This Scripture established that Christ continues to receive tithes in heaven the same way melchizedek received tithes from Abraham. After the order of Melchizedek, Christ continues to fulfil the hight priesthood role in heaven by receiving offerings including tithes. This is clearly stated but you and your false organization would rather establish your own doctrines than obey the Word of God.

MaxInDHouse:
Now it's clear that you are a worker of Iniquity. On the other thread you talked about paying of tithe which can only work when worshipers gather and they'll use the funds for the upkeep of priests, singers, instrumentalists, widows and orphans but if someone refuses to assemble with that gathering how will he be of assistance or benefit from the arrangement?
Ọmọ whoever refuses to gather with all other worshipers of the same God isn't a Christian o!🙂

My friend, I never said no one should join a gathering. Did I?

I said joining a gathering is not a requirement for being accepted by God as you claimed.

These are the only requirements for being accepted by God:

Acts 10:34-35 "God does not show favoritism, and in every nation, whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him."

Any other requirements added to the above is a doctrine from demons.

MaxInDHouse:
Those fearing God and working with Him for righteousness always gather for worship {Psalms 133:1-3} so whoever refuses to join that assembly will not be saved! Hebrews 10:24-29

Why?

Jesus was a judaist before Christianity was established through his ministry but until Christianity was established Jesus continues to assemble with worshipers of God even though he knew the Jews were seeking ways to kill him but when God is about to condemn the nation of Israel and it's temple Jesus declared that it's no longer about a geographic location but anywhere Christians gather for worship. John 4:22-24

So if Jesus always gather with his fellow worshipers whoever refuses to do the same is not a Christian!🙂

All these ramblings are unnecessary.

This is what the Word of God says:

Acts 10:34-35 "God does not show favoritism, and in every nation, whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him."

God accepts whoever fears Him and does righteousness. He doesn't have to be part of a gathering.

MaxInDHouse:
Please can you show me where Jesus paid tithe in the Bible?

Thanks in advance!

Are you telling me that Jesus was a law breaker?

Would He tell people not to leave tithes unpaid if The wasn't doing the same?

Wealthyonos:
Lol, show me in the scriptures where the Apostles paid tithes, and where Jesus received tithe. Wahala for Damina

Why would Jesus receive tithes when He Himself attended synagogues where He paid tithes. Did Jesus establish a Church where people gather everyday to pray and worship? However, Jesus explicitly instructed that paying tithes and showing mercy is important and must not be left undone.


Mathew 23:23: "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone."

Jesus said they ought to pay tithes but not to leave mercy and judgements undone.

Were the Apostles not members of synagogues? Paul even shaved his hair while trying to prove his obedience to the law (Acts 18:18). What makes you think he won't pay tithes which is also part of the law?

sagenaija:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVgyIJ7Pq4Q?si=t8mtRZLnhRqWTNM2

Osayi Arome is wrong on this! Berates God's Word.

When you hear a minister say stuff like "We are not into deliverance, we just preach the word" mark it. He's not equipped enough to cover your destiny because most of the elements that are going to trouble and bedevil your destiny are spiritual in nature. It means he lacks competence to play that role in your life. Life is not science fiction. It's not a cartoon.

He refers to the word of God as just the word. He plays down on the word of God.

What does Osayi Arome mean when he said it means that such a minister lacked competence to play the role of covering in your life? Where does the Bible say the minister is a cover? 1 Timothy 2:5 says: "For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus" One mediator, one God. One mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. A very simple fact of the Bible. Any other person between God and man is an interloper.

Romans 1: 16 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile." We see that the power of God lies in the preaching of the word. Arome Osayi thinks differently.
Colossians 2:10 says: "and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power."

Osayi Arome is marketing a product he does not know it characteristic. These people don't know the characteristics of the product they are marketing. They are talking about Christianity but they have got no idea of what Christianity is.

So they step forward to explain Christianity to people based on their own spiritual encounters, based on their own experiences. Their experiences are not rooted in the word of God. The word of God is not the basis of their experiences. Their experiences are independent of the word of God.

We are told here that we are complete in Christ. Osayi Arome says no, we are not.
Romans 6:8 say: "Blessed is the one whose sin the Lord will never count against them." Our iniquity they were taken by Christ because we believe in him. The Bible now uses the word blessed for us. These men say we are not blessed and so they need to perform some work on Christians to make them blessed.

They always discredit or deconstruct the word of God in order for them to elevate their biases and their sentiment which is what this guy has done.

Hebrews 4:12 says: "For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword" but Osayi Arome apparently believes that that is not so. He obviously thinks that the Word of God is not alive and powerful and sharper than any double-edged sword. He thinks he needs something extra.

Your lack of English comprehension is your reason for these empty ramblings.

Osayi didn't call the Word 'Just' from what you wrote up there. He was talking about what he does. He just does something, and because that something is powerful, it delivers people. What does he just do? He just preaches the Word. Simple and factual.

That's what all Christians should be doing. You don't need to do anything else. The Word is Enough! Just preach the Word. Just Preach. That's all. Preach.

His statement shows how powerful the Word is. All you need to do is to just preach it. Leave everything else to the Word. English is not hard my brother.

MaxInDHouse:
You are mixing different things together but i will simplify it for the sake of others who are following this thread.
By the time Jesus was teaching his disciples there was no congregation for any new convert to join so if anyone becomes a believer in Jesus all what such a person could do is to tell others that he is the long awaited Christ the Jews has been expecting but after God's holy spirit has been used to anointed the group that will lead Jesus' disciples in the preaching and teaching work {Act 2:1-4} all Christians no matter where they are must be submissive to direction coming from the Apostles! Act 2:42 compare to Hebrews 13:7, 17

That is how they can be one not when each person decides to preach and teach whatever comes to his mind claiming it's from Jesus and that is why Paul emphasized on our gathering together as one religion! Hebrews 10:24-25


God's holy spirit is not for confusion Sir that is what is happening among you people today as each person just wake up to start his own ministry independent of the body teaching whatever you like! 1Corinthans 14:33; 40


Wrong!
Philip was working with others disciples and he traveled with other disciples to places and his daughters were also disciples working with the group {Act 6:5 compare to 21:8-9} otherwise if he is alone how do you think the direction from the Apostles and Elders in Jerusalem will have influence on all Christians back then?🙂


God is never glorified with a loner rather His name is glorified among multitude of praisers {Psalms 133:1-3} that is why we must remain in union as a congregation as Paul emphasized for our spiritual growth! Hebrews 10:24-25


Paul already said it at Hebrews 10:24-25 so it's left to you whether to believe the scriptures or continue judging others as if you are holler than them. For your information it's the holier than thou attitude that makes you think there is no need to associate with your fellow worshipers that is what Jesus never approved!


These are two different cases, Jesus was just getting to be known as the promised Christ among his people that is why he insisted that the preaching of his disciples must first be restricted to the Jews {Matthew 10:6} but by the time his disciples have become numerous they must form a congregation so as to keep the same line of thought {John 17:22} if not there will be contradictions just as you people are doing today! 1Corinthans 14:33🙂

My guy, let's leave all fluffs and face the real thing. This is the Word of God:

Acts 10:34-35 "God does not show favoritism, and in every nation, whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him."

God accepts whoever fears Him and does righteous. He doesn't have to be part of a gathering. Being part of a gathering is good. It brings support and extra nourishments for the soul, but it's not a prerequisite for being accepted of God. You lied.

sonmvayina:
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lol, very funny, so funny I forgot to laugh.

in The Cyrus cylinder seal at the British museum, The God who took him by the had and asked him to free the captives was Marduk. cyrus God is Marduk. in the Bible books of Ezra and Isaiah,(all information written after the facts) it says it was Hashem who called Cyrus to free them. By way of simple deduction Marduk is same as Hashem(the Jewish God)....it looks like you love the Jewish propaganda.

Cyrus was bound to thimk.it was Marduk because he did not know Has hen. But the Jews know it was Hashem because only Hashem spoke of Cyrus ever before He was born. The Medes and Persians know not Hashem. The Jews would never have known Marduk is they had no captivity. Marduk has an image they worship. Hashem has none.

You should ould have done well by referring the museum source for verification.

MaxInDHouse:
You are mixing different things together but i will simplify it for the sake of others who are following this thread.
By the time Jesus was teaching his disciples there was no congregation for any new convert to join so if anyone becomes a believer in Jesus all what such a person could do is to tell others that he is the long awaited Christ the Jews has been expecting but after God's holy spirit has been used to anointed the group that will lead Jesus' disciples in the preaching and teaching work {Act 2:1-4} all Christians no matter where they are must be submissive to direction coming from the Apostles! Act 2:42 compare to Hebrews 13:7, 17

My guy, Jesus already had a congregation numbering over 500 apart from the core 12. Why didn't Jesus force anyone to join His congregation? Why didn't He say everyone must join His congregation to be accepted? Why didn't He allow the mad man of Gadara join Hos congregation? Why didn't He ask the disciples to force the lone preacher I referenced to join His congregation? Do you mean that your own congregation is better than that of Jesus because the Holly Spirit is there? Are you saying Jesus didn't have the same Holy Spirit?

My guy, please stop your interpolations and give us concrete scripture references in which Jesus or anyone asked us to join a conversation as a prerequisite for being accepted by God.

That is how they can be one not when each person decides to preach and teach whatever comes to his mind claiming it's from Jesus and that is why Paul emphasized on our gathering together as one religion! Hebrews 10:24-25

The oneness of Christ's Body is premised on Christ Himself. Not doctrines. Christ indwelling all believers, and being Lord over all. If your Lord is different from my Lord, then you're not one with me. The unity of a building is premised on the foundation of that building. If all structures are built on that same foundation, the entire structure would be regarded as one building, no matter how demarcated. Different colours, partitions, varying heights, different roofing patterns, etc, do not in anyway make the building become different buildings. Jesus is our uniform and universal foundation. Our different doctrines don't separate us. It's either Jesus is your Lord or not. If He's not your Lord, then, you're not a Christian. Even if a 3 has many shaped branches, multicolored leafs of various sizes peculiar to each side of the tree, as long as everything stems from one root, it is still one tree. We all are one tree in Christ. Jesus is our Root and Foundation.

This is the Bible. Not gymnastics. Your mental gymnastics have no scriptural basis..

God's holy spirit is not for confusion Sir that is what is happening among you people today as each person just wake up to start his own ministry independent of the body teaching whatever you like! 1Corinthans 14:33; 40

When Paul and Barnabas separated, was it due to confusion? Did they become separate Bodies of Christ? Your answer should be NO, except you're a bad student of Scripture.

They're bound to be doctrinal differences and separations because God is limitless while humans are very limited. God reveals Himself progressively because finite humans cannot contain an infinite God. The moment a group of people want to limit God by their own limitations, He raises another set of people to receive the next progression of Devine revelations. Even Jesus told His disciples "There are many things I want to tell you, but you cannot receive them now." Even Paul told the Corinthians, "I have many things to share with you but I cannot, because being babes you still have need of milk and not strong meat." You see the progression from milk to meat to strong meat. When people get stagnated at milk and plateau at that point thinking the milk is all that God had, God would look for others to become the custodian of the meat stage. If those ones also plateau because of their human limitations, God would still pick some others for the string meat stage. That is how God has progressed the Church from the first disciples till today. The Church itself is a Just Man. And the wise man Solomon says "The path of the Just is as a shining light which shines MORE AND MORE UNTIL THE PERFECT DAY. The perfect day is still ahead, and the Church must keep shining brighter and brighter till that perfect day comes. Human limitations cannot stop the More and More or God.

Wrong!
Philip was working with others disciples and he traveled with other disciples to places and his daughters were also disciples working with the group {Act 6:5 compare to 21:8-9} otherwise if he is alone how do you think the direction from the Apostles and Elders in Jerusalem will have influence on all Christians back then?🙂

Why are you lying? You are referencing a point at which Philip was made a deacon, and another point in time at which he was visited by some believers. How do this establish that he didn't travel alone?

1. Tell me who went with him to Samaria before the Apostles Peter and Join came to baptise the people in the Holy Spirit?

2. Who was with Philip when he was ministering to the Ethiopian Eunuch?

3. When he was caught up by the Holy Spirit and was found in Azotus, who was in his company?

Just list the people found with Philip. No mental gymnastics.

God is never glorified with a loner rather His name is glorified among multitude of praisers {Psalms 133:1-3} that is why we must remain in union as a congregation as Paul emphasized for our spiritual growth! Hebrews 10:24-25

You're even quoting David who was known to praise God alone. He wrote many of his Psalms in his closet. God is Glorified in His individual Child. God was Glorified in Jesus individually. Jesus often prayed alone, and God was Glorified in His prayers.

This your doctrine stems from demons. God said to Jacob "You are my servant (not servants) Jacob in whom I will be Glorified." Isaiah 49:3. Yet you are telling us that God is not Glorified in one servant?

Elijah served God alone. There was no one known with him. Yet, God was Glorified in Him. He belonged to no congregation. Jesus didn't force anyone to join any congregation. The Apostles didn't force anyone to join any congregation. Who are you to force anyone to join your congregation? The scriptures never said, nor inferred that only a Congregation can make anyone accepted by God.

Paul already said it at Hebrews 10:24-25 so it's left to you whether to believe the scriptures or continue judging others as if you are holler than them. For your information it's the holier than thou attitude that makes you think there is no need to associate with your fellow worshipers that is what Jesus never approved!

Can you point me to where I said there's no need to belong to a gathering? My position is that it is not a prerequisite for being accepted by God. Infact, God has the attitude of acknowledging single individuals from NG many fake members of a congregation.


These are two different cases, Jesus was just getting to be known as the promised Christ among his people that is why he insisted that the preaching of his disciples must first be restricted to the Jews {Matthew 10:6} but by the time his disciples have become numerous they must form a congregation so as to keep the same line of thought {John 17:22} if not there will be contradictions just as you people are doing today! 1Corinthans 14:33🙂[/quote]My guy, you are yourselves one of the many contradictions. With a lot of your contradictions already littering this forum. You are just one of them. Calling yourselves a separate religion does not make any difference. Each denomination of believers could also call themselves separate religions as you have done. It still.does not erase the fact that there are opposing views to certain aspects of scripture. There are genuine revelations that have birthed new dispensations and denominations, and there are satanic infiltrations as well. In every congregation, the Church of God is build bearing the seal that "God knows those that are His, and let ANYONE THAT IDENTIFIES WITH THE NAME OF CHRIST DEPART FROM INIQUITY.'

Anyone who professes Jesus, and has been washed by the Blood of the Lamb, and a has departed from iniquity, is accepted by God.

Acts 10:34-35 says "God does not show favoritism, and in every nation, whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him."

God accepts the 'Whosoever' that fulfils the above criteria. Joining a gathering is not part of the criteria.

MaxInDHouse:
Can you quote any reference work in the history of mankind that says nobody can visit the person banished?

🙂

See attached screenshots.

There is no salvation without WORKS as Jesus assigned to his disciples {James 2:18-26} anyone who wants to be saved must join Jesus' disciples in doing that work. Luke 18:22

Why are you digressing? Stay on the lane! Your position was that one person serving God alone cannot be accepted without a gathering!

Funny thing is Jesus said to his disciples:
"You (millions of disciples) will be WITNESSES of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.” Act 1:8
Ọmọ Jesus confirmed that his disciples will be everywhere on this planet even though they may be few in relation to the population of the earth! Matthew 24:14

Where exactly did Jesus say that no one would be accepted if he serves God alone? Apart from that lone preacher I referenced, remember the mad man of Gadara? Once he was healed, he wanted to join Jesus' disciples/gathering and follow Him everywhere. Remember what Jesus told him? He asked him to go back to his family and city, and proclaim what good things God has done for him. He was literally left to go serve God alone. The Bible says he went throughout all Decapolis proclaiming as commanded so much so that at a latter time when Jesus returned to that area, a massive crowd awaited Him. Did that man serve God alone? Yes! Did he have a gathering? No! Did Jesus accept him? Yes!

God is not glorified in the worship of just one person that's why angels assemble before him in countless numbers!

This is one of the doctrines of demons that the Bible warns us about. The Bible says that God gives every single child of God the Holy Spirit, and one of the major functions of the Holy Spirit is to Glorify God through us. The Holly Spirit does this in the life of every individual believer. We Glorify God through worship, service and by leaving a life of holiness and righteousness. By imitating Jesus through the help of the Holy Spirit.

Philip was a lone missionary who went on evangelism alone. He travelled to far lands and preached all alone. He worshiped alone. He prayed alone. He preached to the Samaritans alone. He preached to the Ethiopian Eunuch alone. He confronted Elymas the Sorcerer alone. He performed miracles among the Samaritans alone. He travelled everywhere alone with no gathering whatsoever. He went far away from the Jerusalem fellowship. There was no record that he joined any fellowship anywhere else. He actually went to.places where there were no believers.

God was not Glorified in him? God was not Glorified by his service? God was not Glorified by his worship? God was not Glorified by his prayers? Answer me!

Paul said you are wrong Sir! Hebrews 10:24-25

Paul never said you won't be accepted if you do not belong to a gathering. The purpose of gatherings is support, as iron sharpens iron. Simple.

Just show me a scripture that says, not belonging to a gathering gets you rejected by God. I'll be delighted to see it.

He was not serving God but preaching about Jesus something that has not yet been established that's why Jesus' disciples shot him up but Jesus made them realize that he should be viewed as one of them which means they should encourage him to join them not shot him up. That is what later happened to Apollo and the disciples brought him in to assist him! Act 18:24-26

So they were practicing a religion as they walk together in the faith as one group! John 17:22

Can you see your gymnastics? Your response shows you were taken aback by that reference, and had to concoct a lot of gibberish to defend your error.

1. You said he was preaching Jesus but not serving God. Now, I know that those JWs who carry bags about pretending to be preaching Jesus are actually not serving God.

Well, the Bible didn't tell us what he prescribed. The Bible says he was casting out demons in Jesus' name.

2. You said Jesus' statement meant he'll join them. Did Jesus say he should or would join His disciples as you claimed? Please show us where He said that. Jesus said THEY SHOULD LEAVE HIM ALONE.

MaxInDHouse:
Wrong question. His fellow believers knew where he is so they can visit him he was banished not to continue converting new ones not to stop him from seeing his fellow believers.

It seems you don't even understand the history of these things. Government banished someone into seclusion, who is that person that would go and meet him there? You don't understand that it was a crime for anyone to even go meet him at Patmos. There's no record of anyone going there to meet him. Give us such records if you have them.

Individual prayers is to be directed to God not Jesus {Matthew 6:6 & 9} Jesus only comes to the scene when it involves the work he assigned to his disciples so he joins them to lead and direct them on how to do it. Matthew 18:20; 28:20

You want to digress to "the work He gave His disciples", meanwhile the argument is about serving God in a gathering. My friend, you don't understand how salvation works.

Little do you even know that Jesus can return to take only one man if that man is the only man serving God on earth.

It is the height of ignorance to think that God moves with gatherings. He moves with individuals even inside gatherings. That's why on the day of judgment, it will be everyone to.himself. And, starting from now "EVERYONE is to strive for HIS OWN SALVATION with fear and trembling."

Walking with God is a personal thing. Gatherings are just to help.for support and spiritual fellowshipping. It isn't a prerequisite for salvation.

They can't do the work Jesus assigned to them if they are not together as a team that is what makes them members of a RELIGION! Act 11:26

One man was serving God all alone in the scriptures. The disciples saw him and asked him to stop doing any work for God "Because he goeth not out with us" He didn't join the gathering of the disciples. Do you know what Jesus told them? He said "Leave him alone. He that is not against us is for us." Jesus said that lone preacher is for Him. Who are you to say he's not?

sonmvayina:
God called Cyrus his servant/messiah....which simply means anointed king.
i will drop a video from youtube for you to watch

You don't need to drop me any video. I don't even go by popular opinion. I go by what the Bible says.

Cyrus was a pagan king Whom God used to fulfil His purpose for the world at the time. He didn't serve the God of Israel. He served his own gods.

Infact, tradition has it that Cyrus was awed when he was shown the prophecy of Isaiah that was made about him, even calling him by name about 74yrs before he was born.

MaxInDHouse:
John had attendants visiting him nah it was only him that was banished from among the people he was teaching as they are all doing like his biological children. 1John 2:1; 3:18; 5:21

Please name his attendants with verifiable references.


[quoteA]How can their worship be accepted when Jesus said it's only in the gathering that he could join them? Matthew 18:20[/quote]Jesus lives in all believers by His Spirit in us. Tell me where the Bible says individual prayers, worship or spiritual exercises cannot be accepted.

The real body of Christ has many worshipers practicing true RELIGION! 🙂

They walk the Way. They're the imitators of Christ.

casualobserver:
Let me see…I know you are investigating me, I am an intelligent man and I leave incriminating evidence for you at my residence.

Then again I suppose, they have to dot the Is and cross the Ts. You never know some intelligent people can act very dumb…..like going on TV and saying they bugged the NSA’s phone.

In my little experience in life, I have come to understand that Cleverness, Intelligences and Wisdom are all different things. You can have one and not have the others, and still put yourself in trouble. El Rufai is intelligent but lacks wisdom.

MaxInDHouse:
Why deceiving yourself nah?
Who are those receiving the messages he is getting if there was nobody with him?

Please tell me who those people were.

The Churches received his notes only after he was restored to Rome. But all those years, he was alone on the island.

YES!
Otherwise there is no reason to spread the GOOD NEWS if Jesus could reach the places without his disciples having to go there. Matthew 28:19-20

You see how your lies are exposed?

That means that individual would still strive even without a gathering!

That is exactly what we should call each other so the next thing to figure out now is what is the name of your own church so that we can examine the WORKS of faith your church is producing in Christ? James 2:18-26

The name of my Church is The Body of Christ.