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yusufobinna1:
it's my birthday guys, show some love.

Happy birthday sir.
Your name tho, Yusuf n Obinna, how manage?

African rapper numba 1 o, HBD, u are getting old pls, go and marry.

Just imagine, this is terrible

CSTR2:
Why is it that some of the most backward, [b]anti-women rights [/b]regions of the world have some of the most beautiful women in the world?

You are very correct o!
If some of these hausa fulani girls were participating in beauty cientests, i swear Nigeria for don win Miss world tire. Same thing for these arab women, dem dey fine die.

ChemicalReaction:
Isn't Halima Abubakar also a muslim? She ought to have been killed naa.. Mtcheeeww..

Halima is from the middlebelt (Kogi) and she does not even speak hausa, and has only starred in nollywood.
Rahama is a core hausa northerner. That's the difference.

ANAMBRA !

A woman can never be charged for rape because the law does not provide room for that.
A woman can only be charged for sexual molestation and sexual assault.

tosyne2much:
How come I haven't had this opportunity before?

Peterosky:
abeg who get this ladies numbers? Just tell them that i am waiting for them to come and rape me please.

GogobiriLalas:
Ladies, I promise you can rape me anytime...I won't tell anyone

kaleeto:
D guy no even fine self, why fine guy like me dey find gal wey go rape me. chai!!! dis life self

See all these cheap nairaland guys.
So you no longer have male dignity any more?
Do u guys no if these women are trying to infect him with all manners of STDs or HIV?

Toks2008:
[b]The Islamic injunction clearly states that if a woman has evidence against her husband on adultery, she has the right to ask for divorce. If he accepts and divorces her, then praise be to Allaah, otherwise she may pay him compensation in return for Khul.(Please refer to Fataawa 89039 and 85031).

In the Christendom i have seen countless cases where a wife quickly divorces her husband because he commits adultery even when he has apologized profusely and the lady will be quick to point to the bible as a viable source for her action.

This write up does not encourage adultery in any form but it is about pointing out the erroneous belief as regards the issue.Every man must love and try to be faithful to his wife but nevertheless the fact that your husband commits adultery is never a ground in the bible for you to divorce him and any lady who divorces her husband as a result of adultery and marries another man has committed a sin but if a man abandons you outrightly and walks out of the union without any intention to reconcile then you are very very free to remarry and that we will clearly see from the Bible.[/b]

The bible is generally believed not to be gender specific and when "he" is used it automatically refers to both genders and I quite agree with this postulation. But when it comes to passages that refer to marriage there are specific messages to the husband and to the wife and when Jesus addressed the issue, he was very gender specific and this does not address the woman...

Now let's have a comprehensively look at the passage in the Bible that addressed this issue.

Matthew 19:3-9

Some Pharisees approached Him to test Him. They asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife on any grounds?" "Haven't you read," He replied, "that He who created them in the beginning made them male and female,He also said: For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two will become one flesh? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, man must not separate." Why then," they asked Him, "did Moses command us to give divorce papers and to send her away?"He told them, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because of the hardness of your hearts. But it was not like that from the beginning.And I tell you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery."

These Bible passages clearly makes us understand that divorcing a spouse based on adultery is an instruction for the husband and not for the wife.

So the question is on what ground does GOD permit a woman to divorce her husband?
The answer to this is found in the book of 1 Corinthians chp 7:15:
Yet if the unbelieving one leaves, let him leave; the brother or the sister is not under bondage in such cases, but God has called [e]us [f]to peace.

This passage clearly maintains that the only viable reason where a woman is allowed to divorce her husband is desertion meaning if the man decides to outrightly abandon the marriage and leaves,the woman is not bound but free to remarry...but as the passage concludes,GOD has called us to peace meaning GOD does not want divorce of any kind and should be avoided at all cost.


Hope this makes sense.

Hmm, this guy, what do u really want from women? Times are changing and many wrong things that were tolerated in the past by women can no longer hold. Equality is now coming in to bridge the gap and this is something u African men must come to accept.

Gradually going and very soon to be gone are the days when women were legally enslaved in the name of marriage.

Are you saying that if a woman's husband is very promiscuous and cheats regularly, the woman should still stay in the marriage and allow the man bring home STDs and come and infect her?

Ngozi123:
This is the last time I will reply to you. This article says that her mother is Igbo and her father is Ebira.

http://ournollywood.com/mercy-johnson-okojie-biography-profile-life-story/

Btw, I didn't assume that she was Igbo because of her name, I did so because I've seen it around the net that she's half Igbo. If you can prove otherwise, using other sources then I'd happily accept that I'm wrong.

Well, my last reply too.
Pls show me an interview where she says with her own mouth that 'my mother is igbo'.
Many igbos are twisting her history in a desperate attempt to claim her, the new story i hear many igbos claiming now is that SIMON ACHUBA (kogi statae deputy governor) is an igbo. If nobody challenges them now that is how they will go about writing fake articles that Simon Achuba is an igbo man.

I think ignorance on the path of the igbos is just a problem they dont know middlebelt tribes at all. David Mark's middle name is ALECHENU, so many igalas, idomas and Igbirras, even down to Nasarawa state answer names like Odogwu, Okpanachi, Okolo, Onuche, Ozioku, Ozioma, Onyechi, Onyenta, Enenche, just as many igbos are claiming that Pst Paul Enenche is an igbo man. He is idoma!

But wait o, why do Igbos like Anioma so much? Are we the only Ibo speaking group in the South-south? Why don't u guys try Ikwerre?

If Ikwerre people will not accept igbo, then i really see no reason why most igbos should be ready to kill any anioma person who says he is not igbo.
Igbo identity in Anioma to a large extent has become a personal thing and does not worry us so much.
A former boyfriend of mine was Ika but that guy was just so igbotic, maybe because he really had many igbo friends i dont know, but his father was not even a proud igbo, his mother was indifferent. One of my cousins married an Ndokwa man who believes he is an igbo, but my cousin herself from Anochia does not believe she is igbo cos her father never told her so.

I myself used to think that all Asaba people accepted igbo identity due to their proximity to igbo land only for me to also meet people from Asaba who claim their ancestors came from Igala land and hence cannot be igbo. I was surprised. So anyone who thinks he can divide Anioma land with a scissors based on igbo identity is just making a big mistake.
Anioma people never discrimimate or fight with each other based on Igbo identity issues. You find both igbo denials and proud igbos in one single anioma family and we intermarry each other regardless of igbo denial or acceptance.

Ikwerre people were in the old eastern region with the igbos and have shared the same political destiny with them since colonial times, the question is why are most ikwerres now denying igbo?
Most Ekpeye and Ogbas also deny igbo. A good number of Etches and Ndonis also deny igbo even though majority may accept.
Igbos should work on Rivers first before coming to kill Deltans. We were never classified together with Igbos or shared one political destiny from the beginning, the River Niger had always been the natural boundary.

Goodbye, both my sweet igbo pals, enemies, fine boys and miscreants all together. I remain yours sincerely (genieluv).

@ Ngozi123,

Pls next time, never u come on a public forum to disgrace yourself due to opinions based on extremism and bigotry.
I helped you to do the facebook search in case u were too lazy to do it.

See many Ibirra people below from Okene answering Ozioma, i guess they all have Igbo mothers? LoL

bigfrancis21:
This is the same for some interior places in Nsukka I have been to, in Nkanu land and many areas in Enugu state and Ebonyi state where the natives can only speak their native dialects. They barely can speak English and understand when you speak but can only respond to you in their native dialects when you speak to them in Onitsha or central Igbo.

Ok, never heard of this.

Abagworo:
I think the issue here is Anioma not Igbo. Some Aniomas are not Igbo but joined to form Anioma which is more of a political association than an ethnic group. The Southeast for example has Igala and Ibibio but many people view Southeast as just Igbo forgetting its a mere artificial geopolitical creation like Anioma.

Ok, tell us which Aniomas are igbos and which are not.
I have seen Aniomas from Ika and Ukwuani who accept that they are igbos and i have also seen Aniomas from Enuani who reject Igbo identity. It's a divided thing. Like i said b4, igbo identity is not an issue to most Anioma people, that is one of the least of their worries. So such a trivial issue can never be a yardstick to divide Anioma nation.

Abagworo:
Help us translate these phrases in Ubulu Ukwu dialect.

1 what is your name

2 my father is a man

3 come and take meat

i really don't know how to write the language, but i will reply u when i get someone to help me with the appropriate spellings. Dont blame me i grew up in the north.

Ngozi123:
It's funny, she gloats about Rochas having an Igbo father and a northern mother but she fails to mention the fact that Mercy Johnson Ozioma Okojie is the product of an Igbo woman and a northern man. She's only proving your point with that one...

Mercy Johnson is a full blooded Igbirra girl, her mother was never igbo. Many people feel that Ozioma is an igbo name, it is actually an igbirra name, an ebira friend of mine confirmed it to me that the name means 'a daughter has arrived in ibirra language, ask anyone you know from Okene. Many Igbirras, Igalas and Idomas answer names which look like igbo names but are not in the real sense. If you doubt this just go on facebook and search for 'Ozioma Okene', you will see many egbirra people with the name.

Chiwude:
Exactly bro! Ask her which language do Anioma's use in communicating during their annual Akwa-Ocha cultural gathering? Or the language of communication during the last Delta north political gathering that produced Okowa as sole candidate of the zone. Lol! Or, maybe she should tell me whether my inlaws from Ika spoke pidgin when they came for my elder cousin's hand in marriage last year.
For her information, Central Igbo is the means of communication in Delta north. And just like in the SE everybody is expected to understand the language. One is allowed to speak one's dialect be it Ika, Ukwuani or Aniocha, but when you want to communicate with your fellow Anioma, you drop your dialect and speak in the language that is generally comprehendable to others.

I have asked this question too, because i really have not attended any anioma meeting, but i was told that everyone just speaks his or her own dialect and replies with his or her own dialect as they all understand each others dialects being neighbours for hundreds of years. I have also observed on my own that most Ika and Ndokwa people understand Anochia dialect and many of them can switch to Anochia easily.

Abagworo:
I have been in Delta State Igbo area severally and have even gone deep inside villages. The Igbo I hear them speak is no different from what is spoken in Onitsha or Idemili. I didn't notice a single difference. I know of difference in Kwale, Obiaruku or Agbor but as far as I am concerned not even 1% difference exists in Asaba, Ogwashi ukwu and Igbuzor.

Asaba and Igbuzor are not interior Enuani as such, these areas are very close to Onitsha and Igbo language is heavily influencing them even down to their villages.

For Ogwashi uku, that town is clearly of Nri origin or Igbo origin is very dominant there that is why most of them don't really deny igbo and they try their best to act like igbos the more, but as for towns like Onicha ugbo, Onicha Olona, Onicha ukwu, Nsukwa, Ubulu uku, Isele-uku, the story changes, our rural dialects and the dialects spoken by the older people are quite different. My mother and grandmother were speaking the language one time in Jos and our igbos neighbours there confessed that they could not really understand it at all. I think dialectal comprehension is individual, i have seen many igbos who claim they don't understand Anioma at all at all, but some who claim they do understand.

bigfrancis21:
Historical 'facts' or 'trash'? Please, enough with the unnecessary hyping already. You have no facts. All that you have mentioned here are your own personal opinions. You are yet to quote any useful researcher or study or even an article or website of sorts. And you call your musings 'historical facts'? Very funny I tell you.

Here in the US, we got fast internet. Also, we do not do N100 data subscription when there is fast wi-fi service in almost every house in the US.

LoL, i read a lot of historical documents and ask elders questions. My only problem is that i don't save those documents or memorize the names of the authors. I guess i will start to do that from now.

Well you can see from my little explanation why all of Aniomas are not compelled or mandated to claim igbo identity? It should be our personal choice.
Not until all Anioma leaders and traditional rulers hold a meeting and unanimously declare to us all that we are Igbos, before all of us will accept. But they have not done anything of such.
If the Asagba of Asaba is serious on igbonizing all of us, let him hold or organize an Anioma meeting and convince all our kings and traditional leaders to make a public declaration that we are all Igbos and have no other identity outside this.

ak47mann:
I speak central Igbo in asaba and is the most common Igbo language in asaba

Yes, many Asaba people are now becoming very acquinted with all Igbo dialects because so many igbos are coming there and they are all relating and the area's proximity to Onitsha.
This is not the situation in my father's village Ubulubu in Ubulu uku kingdom or interior Anioma communities, and since many of our people do not migrate to Igbo land, we just stick to our local dialects wherever we migrate to and when Igbos start speaking central igbo for us, we may not understand very well, even if we understand, we cannot reply in central igbo, then they start insulting us to be fake Igbos.

ak47mann:
How about Hollywood Oscar award winners found out that they are Igbo through DNA look at them in igboland with title.But they are Americans hope you understand that

All this is just for show off! Did the Igbo leaders verify the DNA report? And how sure are they that the man is not from Anioma or Ikwerre or even Idoma or Igala? because as long as we are concerned, most of us share similar DNA as we have been intermarrying tribally and have similar origins, ancestry and migrations.

If an ordinary African american thug and street niggar comes from America to Igbo land to confirm his heritage, would he be given any chieftancy? It all boils down to what am saying --------SUCCESS and some cashhhh.

bigfrancis21:
Central Igbo is not natively spoken in SE as you've claimed. I've told you this before. Each clan speaks their dialect and most Igbos in SE have become very exposed to each other that we understand ourselves well but central Igbo is only in full place when writing it but when people speak, people speak their respective dialects. Get this idea of your central Igbo spoke all over the SE out of your head. Go and read up the history of a central Igbo dialect in Igboland starting from Isuama Igbo in the 1800s to Union Igbo in the early 1900s to the final creation of Central Igbo of the 1980s (after the civil war) as standard literary Igbo for educational purposes.

I know that central ibo is an artificial lingua franca as i was told, but all Igbos have officially adopted it as their lingua franca for inter communication among different dialect speakers but Aniomas never adopted it as their lingua franca, that is my point.

Abagworo:
You are very wrong. All Igbos in Delta State speak central Igbo and nothing else. The Igbo spoken in Delta State is clear and free of any influence. The Ika and Ukwuani speak different dialect and don't see themselves as Igbos. Maybe you are talking about Ika and Ukwuani

Have u really been to Delta state? Enuani sounds closer to Central Ibo but still has many Ika, Ukwuani and edo words, however many Igbos who are skilled in understanding various dialects do understand Enuani.
Central ibo i.e the Igbo izugbe is based on Imo dialect and most Anioma people are lost when you start speaking it and this is the dialect most igbos use as their central Ibo and write it.
Anioma people can easily understand Onitsha dialect and neighboring parts of Anambra better because it is very close to Enuani. Many Enuani people can easily speak Onitsha, but we cannot speak Imo state central Igbo neither do we use central Igbo as a lingua franca.
I asked my mother and grandmother all these questions.
Growing up understanding only little Enuani i discovered i could only understand some igbo dialects but could not understand most of them.

Abagworo:
Somehow this particular write up has summarized the crux of the matter which has been a serious issue in intra Igbo relationship. Once every Igbo man accepts this truth that we are more united by language and culture than origin then there will be peace.

Well, i believe language unites all Ibo speaking people. I don't think most Aniomas would have ever denied igbo identity if all of us were able to fully understand and speak central Ibo. Central Ibo language is not used as a lingua franca in Anioma areas unlike in the south-east and that is why many Anioma people conclude that they don't speak or understand Igbo (central Ibo).

Igbos were never a centralized people and this is where many of the problems came from i think.
Oyo kingdom conquered much of the yoruba speaking tribes and enforced Oyo dialect on them as their lingua franca, they centralized all yoruba speaking tribes to a large extent and that is why if you even go to the most interior villages in Kogi west (Okun) axis and speak Oyo for them, even an old grandmother who has never left Okun land all her life will reply you in Oyo dialect (central yoruba). Yoruba language (Oyo dialect) was heavily centralized.

bigfrancis21:
Lol. Arguing with you is like arguing with a child. Yes, plateau united football club made Mikel in his early formative years. Who is going to deny that. Unlike you I give credit to whom it is due. Same way Nollywood made Mercy Johnson who she is. She now even speaks Igbo fluently. Watch Baby Oku in America, for example.

As for your comment on googling, I would accept an article from google over anything that comes from you. You barely know the surface of Igbo history.

Oh, are you saying you cannot challenge my historical facts anymore or your data subscription has been finished on your day and night googling just to challenge my facts? Well, lemme give you a break to ask for more money from your dad, so you can do more googling. LoL, all u'd have just done is ask me politely, no harm in asking, i don't bite. LoL.

Anyone that knows the average middlebelter will know that they are extremely down to earth peeps. We easily learn people's languages and acculturate. Mercy is fluent in yoruba as well as she grew up in Lagos. My idoma stepfather speaks igbo, hausa and yoruba + his own idoma and Tiv. He was even learning Enuani small small because my mother and grandmother and her sibblings always speak Enuani amongst themselves at home. So we are like that.

ak47mann:
The issue here is that you can only be Igbo from birth,igbos are not a citizenship.We find it very difficult to understand how a grown man and woman from a different tribe fighting to be accepted in Igbo fora

Haha, that's what u guys say but not the reality on ground. Nobody will ever reject a succesful person who identifies with him, especially not those igbo kings who can accept anyone once given the right size of brown envelope or Ghana must go. Just do that and they will give you chieftancy titles left and right without caring to know where you are truly from.
Or are you telling me that if Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg decides to add Emeka to their names and claim that their great great grandfather was actually an Igbo man from Mbaise and then they transforms Mbaise to small London and mete out to every traditional leader the right size of brown envelopes, are you telling me that they will not be drowned in a sea of chieftancy titles all over Igbo land and accepted without the igbo leaders even caring to confirm the paternity story?

As u guys say AKUKO, story for the gods.

bigfrancis21:
To be honest, you reason like a child. What concerns Mercy Johnson's marriage/private life with her acting or Nollywood? How do the 2 even link together? Isn't marriage supposed to be a private affair and decision by someone? If someone talented decides not to marry, isn't that their personal choice? Speaking of childbirth, isn't Genevieve Nnaji a mother of a 16 or 18 year old child yet she still looks like she is in her early 30s? What of Omotola Ekeinde? Despite having 4 children, she still looks as young as ever. Is it only Mercy Johnson? Oh, Mercy Johnson is now different because she is from middlebelt. I laugh at your stupidity. Your type will complain that the Nigerian society looks at unmarried women, regardless of their career, as underachievers yet here you are a fellow woman deriding Genevieve and Rita for their single status. Please woman, your line of reasoning and argument is getting absurd.

Yes, Nollywood made Mercy Johnson what she is. If she had not been given roles to act nobody would have known who she is anyway. She acted films and she got paid for her roles. The producers and directors gathered the scenes together, edited the scenes, produced the movies, advertised and sold the movies and made their money. It is business. It is what it is.

Ok, now you are pained because you see in the whole large igbo land of the so called nollywood, none can set the example one like Mercy had set.
We are all Africans and our culture doesn't change, we know that a woman's success in Africa is not complete without a succesful marriage and being a mother and a wife with responsibilities.

Ok, i hope you accept too that Plateau united football club made Mikel who he is? Cos i see you were silent on this, or did you go to google and dig search with all your effort and strength on this fact too? LoL
Cos even the blind people on this thread can attest to the fact that you guys are 'commited googlers'. If challenged, you guys are ready to finish all your data subscription just to google one single fact out or dig through someone's profile. Ipob children of Nnamdi will never change.

^^^^^ The 2nd reason is that the colonial masters had a strong say in defining people's identity and politics too.

Politically Anioma has never shared one destiny with the Igbos. The colonialists created two large divides from the old Southern region and we were under the western region and from there to midwest region.
If Nsukka people probably for instance had been under old Benue-Plateau state were they were forced to relate with other middlebelt tribes, many of them would probably have been identifying as Nsukka people and some denying igbo identity.
Many Ilorin and Okun people deny being yorubas too, the only advantage these people have had politically is that the yoruba speakers were the majority in the old West central state which became Kwara state compared to the number of Egbirra, Igala or Nupe speakers and the capital had always been in Ilorin. And historically too, many of these indepemdent yoruba speaking kingdoms were under Oyo kingdom, hence have been heavily influenced by yoruba identity even before the Europeans came. So it is not really so strange for them to reconnect to yoruba identity even though they have a different political identity.

bigfrancis21:
Now the truth is coming out. You have been pummeled into revealing the truth, well clap for yourself.

Since you have finally decided to become sober, I'll treat you as one.

Well know this, no tribe in Africa is pure. You act like the whole of SE originated from the same place when we did not. No. SE itself is also not pure as we did not all come from one place, and some Igbo clans have heavy outside cultural influences such as the Nsukka, the Ohafia, etc. 'South East' is only but a recent zonal creation 30 years ago grouping a section of Igbo-speakers together into one zone. A LOT of transmigration occurred in the past. People, due to different reasons, often crossed boundaries and ventured into new linguistic groups and got assimilated into their new environments. In the past, African ethnic groups had no sense of collective ethnicity, and they only paid allegiance to their spoken dialects and villages. Thus, 100 years ago, an Nnewi man would tell you he is Nnewi, not Igbo. An Ngwa man would tell you he is Ngwa, an Aro man would tell you he is Aro, an Etche man would tell you he is Etche, the Asaba man would tell you he is Asaba and not Igbo etc. Delta Igboland is not any different from South East Igboland in that respect. Yorubaland too is not pure as some Nupes, Baribas, Hausas, defeated and captured war victims from Dahomey during the Oyo-Dahomey wars etc. were assimilated into Yorubaland but they are all Yorubas today.

Worldwide, races are not pure. The whites of America are not all descendants of England/britain. Between 1600 and early 20th century, the Irish, the French, the German etc. all settled in America (Donald Trump who is all loud about being white and against immigrants is actually German - his grandfather is a German who migrated to the US in the late 1800s), and they all make up the white race in America today. The people who identify as Black Americans today are made up of different origins or ethnic groups from Africa and also from Europe but today they are all united as one people - black americans.

So you need to understand that most tribes, ethnic groups etc. on earth are not pure, as they, in the past, assimilated other people into their groups. Do not act like that of Anioma is any different when it is the same for SE too. In fact, by virtue of your logic and the diverse origins of the SE people, SE can decide to coin up a name for themselves and follow that identity like Anioma but it does not make sense as it would lead to further disunity among ourselves.

Like someone here said earlier, instead of looking at the little differences in us, why not look at the similarities between us and unite. At the end of the day, people east and west of the Niger are more related to each other than West of the Niger and any other group in Nigeria or Africa. No Igbo clan is more Igbo than the other. We all know we may have originated from different places in the past, be it wherever, but 'Igbo' is simply a collection of people who speak dialectical variations of the same language. That's what it is.

Igbo bu ofu.

You are the one missing everything here ok? The first chat u and i had here was not insultive, or do u want me to screenshot the posts here for u to prove u wrong?

The insults mostly started when Ikechu took all the time he had in the world to dig my profile and started ranting everywhere about my idoma ancestry forgetting that there are millions of Nigerians with dual and multiple ancestries and can fit into anyone of them or claim anyone at any time.

Now back 2d topic, it's not as if i don't understand all you are saying oo. I do. Benue people are very close to Nsukka for instance, so i know the igala origin of many of them but however, there are 2 reasons why this logic of 'we are all mixed' is failing in the Anioma axis.

1) For instance, from what i read, Ngwa people already had their well defined identity as Ngwa people before they started intermixing with Ibibios, Nsukka people already knew who they were before igalas started influencing and intermixing with them. But for Aniomas, the story is quite different, the aboriginal people on Anioma land were never known to have an identity of their own, let alone an Igbo identity before the Nri, Benin and Igala migrations started flooding into area.

There was no documented account anywhere to prove the original identity of the aborigines of Anioma land when the Nris and Edos got there. So, Anioma identity started forming almost at the same time when the Benin, Nri and Igala migrations started coming in, that is why you see in some Anioma towns the quarters with Bini origin are seen as the seniors and kingmakers, while in some others the quarters of Nri/Igbo origin are the seniors and kingmakers. In some other few towns, igala descendants take the lead. So that is where the problem comes.
The igbo descendants in Anioma land cannot claim to have come there before the Binis or Igalas according to history. Igbo descendants only got the advantage in terms of language as their language was stronger and displaced others.

bigfrancis21:
This woman, you are very stupid. Nollywood that recognizes talents of people and if you are talented they support you in your acting career. Nollywood made Mercy Johnson what she is. We took her in like one of our own, gave her roles to act, popularized her. Or you think she just 'dominated' on her own like that? Is that how st.upid you are? Mercy Johnson that even speaks fluent Igbo now just like a south easterner.

Once more, you see why your sense of reasoning is superficical. You think it is all about the actors you see on screen, as if actors are the major part of the movie industries. You barely know all the parts - directing, producing, sales, marketing etc. that make sure a movie is successful.

Nollywood can be likened to a company set up by one man, and he employ workers who work hard for the company and the company grows. The outside world sees and interacts with the workers who are the face of the company and in return the company recognizes the talents and hard work of its employees and pays them salaries, promotes them and whatnot but at the end of the day the ownership of the company remains with who? You go figure it out, that is if you can use google, du.mb hag.

@bold...and Rochas himself, unlike his father, married an Igbo woman.

Igbo women still remain 10 times as beautiful than you will ever be. Deal with that ugly hag.

U claim Igbo producers are heaven and earth, ok i accept, but all i ask is for you is to just name an international award which any of them has won. We all know that the movie industry all over Africa is a total mess and cannot stand where foreign movies are charting, it's still comimg up, so generally, expect crap to be sold all over africa in the name of movies afterall we have the population of dull individuals who will be willing to buy anything, but this cannot be said of our music industry because some of our musicians have won grammys, bet awards and all other international awards.

International awards do not lie, but any writer or journalist can write anything anywhere all over the world.

bigfrancis21:
This woman, you are very stupid. Nollywood that recognizes talents of people and if you are talented they llsupport you in your acting career. Nollywood made Mercy Johnson what she is. We took her in like one of our own, gave her roles to act, popularized her. Or you think she just 'dominated' on her own like that? Is that how st.upid you are? Mercy Johnson that even speaks fluent Igbo now just like a south easterner.

Once more, you see why your sense of reasoning is superficical. You think it is all about the actors you see on screen, as if actors are the major part of the movie industries. You barely know all the parts - directing, producing, sales, marketing etc. that make sure a movie is successful.

Nollywood can be likened to a company set up by one man, and he employ workers who work hard for the company and the company grows. The outside world sees and interacts with the workers who are the face of the company and in return the company recognizes the talents and hard work of its employees and pays them salaries, promotes them and whatnot but at the end of the day the ownership of the company remains with who? You go figure it out, that is if you can use google, du.mb hag.

@bold...and Rochas himself, unlike his father, married an Igbo woman.

Igbo women still remain 10 times as beautiful than you will ever be. Deal with that ugly hag.

Hah, Igbo producers made Mercy Johnson who she is? Did they also help her become a succesful wife and mother? After many children, see how hot and smoking mercy still looks, how many famous igbo actresses can manage that? Why did Igbo producers not also make the likes of Genevieve and Rita Dominic live an examplary lifestyle like Mercy? Face it you thug, virtues of a good woman can never be bought in a market, it is genetically passed down and culturally communicated!

But let's assume that Igbo directors made Mercy all she is, can we also assume that Plateau united football club made Mikel who he is? Since that was where he started to shine as a football star?
You can only get dumber by the day u little crude savage u.

bigfrancis21:
Very cheap and du.mb hoe...giving it up easily to any Tom, D!ck and Harry for free.

Well, am not as cheap as your sisters. Am just a friendly person who can be extremely friendly and open to friendly people (my middlebelt heritage i guess). Ask all Nigerians they can testify that middlebelters are the friendliest group of Nigerians, this is why you see Nigerians from all ethnic groups calling a place like Jos home when Jos was never the capital of the country or very politically significant.
Everyone must not be a child of hate like you Igbos. We were not conceived by hatred! That is why u see no group of Nigerians hate middlebelters or Niger deltans.

bigfrancis21:
@bold...you are the one who started the insults on this thrad, calling Igbos unprintable names and whatnot. Do not turn around now and act the 'victim'. You are burning in the same fire which you started and you have been paid back in your own coin.

You are blind. That fellow started using harsh words on me just because i said that there are certain attitudes igbos posses that Anioma people do not. He insulted me to list the attitudes out and all i did was say that many igbos have a pompous, proud, boastful and arrogant disposition, how is that insultive? I only stated my opinion and that of many anioma people and even mkst Nigerians, they will all tell you that is how igbos are. Even the guy himself did not dispute all that i said, he was trying to justify these dispositions of igbos. So pls learn to follow a thread as a civilized and cultured individual paying attention to every detail.

jayrule:
Secondly, you have no right to meddle in Igbo issues as your paternity refutes you from doing so!
And thirdly, let me go back to how reasonable you've been from the begining of the post. You talked about Unity between Ndi Igbo of the East and their Family west of the Niger (Ndi Igbo nke Anioma). This unity we are talking about predates us! It is there in historical documents; from Obi Ossai to Equianoh and from him to Obi Efeizomor. Ikechu1 has helped us out here so no need to refer you to any link or whatsoever.

I'm sorry if I have in anyway been insultive to you here. All my point is, dont come here and drag anioma on your head like it your personal property. Even because your claims to being a bonafide Anioma indigene is controversial. Thank you my lady. Have a blessed sunday.

And mind you, I'm no Biafran, I just want the Unity of Ani Ndi Igbo for this predates us. It helped us in the past. We were envied politically and in all aspect of our relevance and contributions to the development of this country in terms of intellectual resources!

Just to set the fact straight because afterall you seem somehow reasonable, am a product of 2 heritage. My mother was born and bred in Anioma land, her own mother is anioma too but her father is from Benue, this is why i consider my mother more of an Anioma woman because she speaks the language more and behaves more like one and even considers herself one. My mother gave birth to me for an Anioma man before she relocated with her father back to Benue taking me along and married an Idoma man who became my stepfather and they resided in Jos, as i approached my mid teenage age i went back to Ubulu uku and re-united with my biological father. So you can see that i am very much an Anioma woman, just that i spent more of my life in the middlebelt. I understand Enuani, Idoma and Hausa to a fair extent. You must not believe me since you have a right on what to believe.


Let me tell you something about Anioma, by origin, we are a blend of different groups, according to what i researched and what my elderly uncle and father told me, that Anioma people are a blend of different groups, some came from Bini, others came from Igbo, Esan, Igala and Yoruba and that is why we bear influences and cultures from all these areas. We became linguistically Ibo overtime due to the strength of continous Nri migrations and the population of our igbo neighbours across the Niger and also colonialism too.

For instance, Itsekiris are just like us too, their nation was formed by the merge of yoruba and Benin migrant groups, overtime the yoruba dialect displaced the bini dialects due to the largeness of yoruba speakers around them but their political and kingship structures remained Bini and this is why they maintained their new identity Itsekiri but still maintain relationship with both yorubas and binis.

You can say Aniomas are linguistically Ibo, but structurally and culturally we are a mix while politically and in kingship affairs we are bini, can't you see the way our kings dress and the way they are coronated? Many of our kingship titles are Benin, just like the recent new 'teenage' king of my town Ubulu Uku, who went to Benin to perform many rites before he was crowned king. Our people have some very strong ties to Benin which we cannot throw away just because we want to be Igbo, this is why many of our people just find it hard to completely accept igbo identity. Till today most of our kings must go to Benin and perform rites before they become king.

jayrule:
All I see is rant and irrelevant dictions. Although, from the begining of the post, I saw you as a very reasonable entity. However, how you hurl insult on Ndi Igbo has lowered your standard into a very foul smelling sceptic tank.

First of all, Anioma is Igbo structurally (culturally and politically. In fact, historically!)
Secondly, you have no right to meddle in Igbo issues as your paternity refutes you from doing so!
And thirdly, let me go back to how reasonable you've been from the begining of the post. You talked about Unity between Ndi Igbo of the East and their Family west of the Niger (Ndi Igbo nke Anioma). This unity we are talking about predates us! It is there in historical documents; from Obi Ossai to Equianoh and from him to Obi Efeizomor. Ikechu1 has helped us out here so no need to refer you to any link or whatsoever.

I'm sorry if I have in anyway been insultive to you here. All my point is, dont come here and drag anioma on your head like it your personal property. Even because your claims to being a bonafide Anioma indigene is controversial. Thank you my lady. Have a blessed sunday.

And mind you, I'm no Biafran, I just want the Unity of Ani Ndi Igbo for this predates us. It helped us in the past. We were envied politically and in all aspect of our relevance and contributions to the development of this country in terms of intellectual resources!

Ok, we can always disagree to agree again, no strong feelings. We all have emotions as humans, i never intended to insult anyone on this thread, but when one person feels he has the monopoly of insults and strong words, we mete it to them in their measure.

From the beginning i was even trying to convince one igbanke girl to believe that our own people are very much related to Igbos even though we have some differences and issues, i gave her an example of my ex who is an ika man and a very proud igbo man for her to kno that not all ikas are denying igbo identity, but all i got was insults from some crude individuals of which i think you are not different cos you insulted me in the begining of this post and now later apologizing, so which one do i take? Double standardness is for only unstable individuals.
So, define where you stand, if you want us to engage in a conversation as civilized individuals, am all your honey, and if you want it in an insultive manner, i can be your nightmare.

bigfrancis21:
She has run away again as usual. Like a coward, she runs away when the heat is up and when everybody looks away she returns like she got game. Du.mb hoe.

Unlike you social miscreants, derelicts and scoundrels. I have a real everyday life and a very busy schedule. Am not a misguided street teenager like you touts, so i cannot be available here 24/7 for you to masturbate on my threads all the time.