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[If you have been following this negotiations, the Government is the one that hasn't been realistic. First of all the private sector minimum wage is always take a cue from the one paid by the public sector(emphasis on minimum wage)
The 615000 demanded by labour,everyone knows it is not realistic but at the same time the government should offer something that is livable bearing in mind that the inflation in the country is a product of their inconsistent policies.
IMO the government is not coordinated. Removing the subsidy partly brought this but a good and tactical team head like we see in football matches would always be able to read the game and make amends that even if you loose the match everyome would be happy
The key thing is that Nigerians needs food and sustenace. What is the Government doing about it and how are they communicating it to the populace at least to inspire hope?
(quote author=phemray post=130280127]


Workers minimum wage increment is fine and necessary but we need to be serious and realistic in our request. People that are more productive and result oriented are found in private sector and did not collect 600k as minimum wage. So NLC asking that for example, a cleaner or gateman be paid 600k minimum means directors in level 15 or 16 will be paid in millions just to awarding contracts and using Thier offices to steal. Anyway,NLC/TUC should tell government and private sector where to see the money to pay over 20million workers. But we should be ready to buy bag of rice at >600k since its price is always proportional to minimum wage.[/quote]

It doesnt work that way bro. The goal is to have a new minimum wage for workers signed into law as the 30000 currently obtained and the law backing it has expired. Striking as an option is because your government is not honest,
They have been dragging this negotiation as a tool yet it is not enough reason to just deviate from the mandate before them and strike without sufficient reason

uote author=ahamonyeka post=130275460]peopke have seen them as useless set of people already[/quote]

The man grouse wasn't about the disconnection o but the EEDC insistence on cutting and going away with his wires, probably he bought the wires himself.
The mans action was razz but does EDCC have the right to go away with wires they didn't provide?

You are an idiot if you can't answer a simple question? Do you work in legit to know how they collate their data?

Namaster:
You are a VERY dumb boy. You realise that, right?

A business is NOT publicly listed in any stock market YET Legit.ng values the Founder at an EVEN billion dollars based on his ownership of that business.

How did they get the data?

Idioots like you are ALWAYS ready to believe and defend "trust-me-bro statistics" when you feel like it favours you.

So everyone whose business is not quoted on the stock exchange which is the basis of the Forbes list is not a billionaire?

Namaster:
OP is exhibiting EXTREME levels of dumbness.

Legit.ng, a Nigerian blog, pulled out figures from their asshole and OP is shovelling it down his throat like cheeseballs.

A businessman who is a USD billionaire would be on Forbes list. Not on a "bloggers" list.

I think that is the main thing.
real people that needs and transact with the dollar don't much care about the rate but for the rate to be predictable a kind of so that they would be able to make their bussiness projections.
or=laivwire post=129106235]
With the little I know, the Naira can depreciate once again but the FG will never let it reach those levels of #1,700 again.[/quote]

The supposed Nigeria you are trying to defend,don't they have regulators and supposedly institutions that shouldn't have allowed it happened in the first place?

HayTerran:
A man who contributed a lot to the rot that bedevil Nigeria but because he was a rich man, everyone is trying to famz. I won't be a part of such.

Bro security in Nigeria at the moment is a federal responsibility, make we no de try to make unnecessary excuses.. you witness the politics played with amotekun during the establishment and even now.
Just handle the issue of security and see a lot of people go back to farm

spiSeyi:
If state government are up to the task local vigilante & hunters will handle this. But most local hunters and vigilantes are not encouraged by the state governments

What's actually the overiding need remaining in OPEC? Angola left or was about to leaving the other day because their interest as a nation is not being met. Ecuador and quatar has left OPEC.
Won't Nigerian leaders be Patriot and think out of the box for once.
Is it written anywhere that you can't sell your oil if you don't belong to OPEC?
Meet local needs/demands for oil first especially in times of an emergency.

sulaak:
Dangote is refining fuel but selling refined products to pay off his high dollar-dominated debt.

Nigeria needs to increase oil production to 3 million B/D to meet the 1.5 million OPEC quota and the 1.2 million refinery requirements.

Have you been following the negotiations between labour and the Government up until now? If you have been, you will know that the Imo state debacle has been on the table which the national labour leaders wanted a mediation from the Government , even the NURTW matter.

Joshchi19:
Can you read the MEMO to see the reading fir the Strike yourself

Comrade these things you listed are the main issue for the strike, forget those trying to change the narrative that it was because they beat the NLC president, though it might have added to the quagmire.
I remember that at the last meeting between labour and
the Government, the labour leaders gave the Government 30 days to initiate a framework and timeline for implementation of the agreement between them and that they won't give the govt and prior notice again before embarking on indefinite strike.
But this govt have not been serious for one day addressing the grievances of the Nigerian workers...upon series of meetings with the labour leaders.
To the extent that people were accusing Labor of having been compromised.
While I believe strike should be the last option , the Government has not been fair at least to come out with framework/timeline for implementation of things agreed upon.....

Owaincouncil:
If they born tinubu well, he should not call tge NLC/TUC for negotiation.
But wait o, I hope this strike will also address the issue of minimum wage, palliative for citizens and stable electricity for small scale businesses

It may actually be a conspiracy theory on the side of the government supported health professionals.
Where I don't doubt the existence of HIV but there is no proof that HIV causes AIDS.
Remember AIDs is a syndrome, a situation where your body immune system can't fight off infections effectively.
What kills people with HIV is the stigma that is attached to it and the gradual errosion of the remaining immune system by the anti retrovial drugs. author=Aldol post=126717285]
Come and see for yourself,conspiracy theorists wey dey fear EMILO2STAY[/quote]

Where can one safely make this kind of investment? Capital market/insurance or buying and selling?
I will like to learn

Nice2023:
Funny enough,I have about three children and one on the way...there are ways to manage family these days.

One sure way is to invest 10 to 15 million for for ur children @10% interest minimum. As this can pay their school fees...and possibly feeding.

Then u can rest small but in all,it is not easy at all.

You didn't want to comment on the alleged GCE A levels he used to get admission into college but only on what you understand that CSU said?
So one can actually build an education skyscraper on illegality?
If you notice the only time Atiku has spoken on this directly was on how Tinubu without primary and secondary education managed to have a Degree.He may be more
interested in the forgery of the A levels results but has to go all the way for a well tight evidence

femisplash:
Lol, no academic records, was that what CSU said?, when is CSU going to sue Tinubu?
Athief'ku is using your brain to renew his blood, you're so unfortunate.

Peeps like you don't get the drill, The whole joke is on INEC, what would they tell the electorates in 2027 you are talking?
I personally want Supreme court to uphold every decision that PEPT has made for precedence. So relax
Quote author=bennybuhari post=125647384]Don't waste your money, prepare for 2027[/quote]

The ultimate question is did apc actually won the election if the votes were counted correctly?
All this una analysis makes little or no sense when everyone knows that majority voted against apc.quote author=TooNoisy post=125630151]A house divided against itself cannot stand. PDP broke into too many factions.

Atiku, Obi, Kwankwaso and G5. How on earth can you defeat Tinibu when you are this divided abs even the G5 worked for Tinubu.[/quote]

I think he needs to go for precedence. Let the supreme court affirm these technicalities. Then we know there are no need for laws as far as Nigeria is concerned.
qhuote author=skyp post=125620118]My advice for Obi is not to waste time going to the Supreme Court. Now I agree Naija is a shithole.[/quote]

I think the supreme court still needs to interprete this and a lot from this proceedings. Most are constitutional matters. The PEPT are just clever by half. Until the supreme court says so then people like me will make my conclusions

Lol. But it was the same issue Atiku brought before the high court as a pre election matter and the high court refuse to adjudicate that they do not have jurisdiction.
My question is who have jurisdiction in a matter like this.

Iexclusivenews:
The Presidential Election Petitions Tribunal has declared that it lacks the powers to hear the petition of the Allied Peoples Movement (APM) challenging the qualification of President Bola Tinubu and Kashim Shettima.

iexclusivenews reports that Justice Haruna Tsammani, reading the lead judgment on Wednesday, that the issues brought before the tribunal are pre-election matters, which ought to have been at a high court.
Continue Reading: https://iexclusivenews.com.ng/2023/09/06/just-in-tribunal-strikes-out-petition-seeking-tinubus-disqualification/

Did you not see where he stated that five of the turbines has not been installed up till today but there are there at the ports which is a fallout of this disfunctional Nigerian
state. Every successive administration not continuing on the project of his predecessor.

adioolayi:
$6Billion worth of contract went under your nose as the President and you are boldly saying you don't know about it

I mean $6Billion

If your not knowing about it doesn't say alot about your administration...what will

Anyone that lives in Abuja would agree with me that the is issue of these bikes arrest by the task force is on continuous basis and it predates Wike. What happens is that after this arrest, they usually collects money and give back these bikes to their owners.
These one they are destroying the bikes, am of the opinion that it's not Wike that sent them,it's just eye service.

I want to ask is if there is no room for appeal in this PEPT this time around?

The only thing I want the junta to achieve is to terminate any colonial agreement Niger had with the French or initiate a process for it and handpick for a civilian president for the job.
But it's gonna be a hard but to crack seeing that France is in control of all the francophone economic and monetary systems.
Can they achieve it with Russia being on their side?

The reason they want to leave may not actually be true.i remember a few months ago,one of their products that I use, Ventolin inhaler was not in the market for quite some time. One of the big pharmaceutical marketers told me the reason was that the company was having issues with the Nigerian authorities with regard to production.
Glaxo does not manufacture any of this high end drugs in Nigeria, and thats the condition the Nigerian gave them for continue operation. I think they are just trying to beat that regulation

obyno82:
Dude stop trying to rationalize bull shit, Glaxo is one of the best pharmaceutical companies in Nigeria and for them to leave is an indication that all is not well. Bros fear God and speak the truth for once. Haba!!

Am thinking what if the NLC and it's affiliates do not make any public announcement on or before the said date but instructs it's members to stay at home on the premise of not having transport fare to work until further instructions.
is that one a disobedience to the court order

This CBN Governor may likely have the same problem Emefiele had, that is fiscal policies that are efficient from the side of Government. I saw it mentioned in the article. No matter how much a CBN Governor does with monetary policy, things may not work without the fiscal policies.

Lol. Inec for release the certified true hard copies of form ec8, why did they only give LP the blurred one from the Irev. proving they won the election based on the form ec8 submitted by their own polling booth agents will equates to a kind of building a skyscraper on a sand, without the ctc of Ec8 from Inec.quote author=SledgeHammerer post=124574765]Even in his final written address, obi still didn't show us how he won this election. Mtcheeeew[/quote]

Oga the blurred copies they presented to the court was certified true copies from inec .
Inec refused to give them the CTC of the hard copies in their
possession.unless you didn't read the address or follow the court proceedings.
Both pdp and lp have their original copies submitted by their agents but they can't build a case from it because it is uncertified. quote author=Lotanna2 post=124571512]

You still don't get it.obi and atiku failed to prove that the blurring was from inec.tjey failed to compare it with the hardcopies which is fatal...inec certified server or online copies of bvas data in osun but yet the court rejected them for the original copies[/quote]

By your last submission that only legislation not litigation can remedy the defects in our electoral system. Is it not intuitive enough to know from the onset that Peter Obi indicated that he is challenging the process not the outcome of the election
We are aware that in this country every good process we have on paper like INEC promising real time transmission of results to ensure transparency is always comprised ... (Mind you they have everything to make this work)But the question is how long shall we continue like this!
There is no way of achieving the right legislation if the electoral system can be manipulated at will by politicians.
And in this election did inec complied with the electoral laws? Is it by calling up witnesses from polling both that petitioners can prove that inec didn't comply with the electoral laws?
Well it is left for the courts to decide.

Philgafauto:
If you know me, you will know that i resent Bola Tinubu for his criminal past. But on this Court matter, Peter Obi's legal team were unable to prove that there was no substantial compliance with the Electoral Act. The burden in election petitions are quite high because the jurisprudence in that area of law has been that INEC has always been protected by the courts as having "Substantially complied with the extant electoral laws"

It is an unfortunate situation and only legislation can remedy the defect of our electoral system, not litigation.

casualobserver:
Speak English properly first so we know what you are asking and what to answer.

I won't downgrade to your level,I have checked your posts on your profile and it's not worth it

You seem to appear intelligent but I want to ask ,is it because you didn't see from the proceedings at the court where for instance where the petitioners tried proving they won Lagos with x amount of votes citing the Ec8 form that they didn't present such before the tribunal?

casualobserver:
If you had any brains you will realize they have concluded their case and did not specify which results they were contesting. All they talked about was irev but the Supreme Court said only a few months ago irev is irrelevant. Bringing boxes to court and. It saying anything about the contents of the boxes or how it affects your case means nothing….it’s just a show!

Shebi they have concluded their case? Did you hear where they said they won Lagos and this is the exhibit? Did you hear where they said they won Ekiti and this is the EC8 evidence? Did you hear where they said they won Bauchi or any other state and this are the EC8 forms to prove it? No they just brought boxes to court to excite their base and spent all their time calling expert witness from Amazon that is not qualified to speak on behalf of Amazon etc etc.

bigiyaro:
that place is a natural flood plain, there is no engineering solution to it.

what about diverting the water from the upland sources that is the adjourning estates or even depending the canal that pass through trademore?
The problem with that canal at trademore is that it is always filled with filt and you know Nigerians we are a kind of always reactive than being proactive.