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If man city should drop points along the way and arsenal fail to capitalize on that by winning Everton(with better goals) on Sunday, I go raise the bottling flag so high than whoever held it high.

Na person wey dey take dis banter to heart I dey mercy for take the lessons and catch your cruise

For someone who can't admit that Arteta brought the best out of xhaka, I'm definitely not surprised.

mostob:
Decent manager like who? I don't know why you all are scared to mention name

He said Milan and Leipzig coach

Leipzig and Milan coach. I laughed so hard man!!! . Ok, Alonso can be excused but Stefano pioli and Marco Rose . Oya see nah!!. Where those two coaches dey for table this year?, Where did the finished on the table last year?. 😂 we too dey play for here ah swear.

Roland17:
I mean, someone can’t look at Arsenal under Arteta for 4 years and just say, okay, in 4 years, we should have integrated a player. It won’t stop me from bowing to him. It won’t stop me from disagreeing with Roland17 in everything else.

I mean look at City and the players Pep throws in there. Do you know where City has finished in the academy logs? I am not saying starting before the convenient excuse of winning comes in, we are talking about 1 academy player in 4 years.

Haba mana!

he will do that next season

"my camp" did we at any point blame pep for our loss against villa?, because the math is not mathing.

We can talk about not bringing in any academy ehen, but we can still defend him on that with the same reasons of facing the heat of winning a major trophy and not trying to jeopardize that.

Jodera:
... until Saka turn turn him waist when we dey lash them 5-0 for first half.

Roland17:
LMAO. Your camp asked me the question about my solution and I have shared it but of course it has to be your way or no other way.

A lot will happen between now and 2025 if my solution is applied. I have not suggested he gets fired, so there should be no conversation about who replaces him. You see what I mean?

Chaii.. Biko let's stop this round about now nwanne. I respect your views, like I said I love getting informed, and you just left the group chat of people I have issues with.

Roland17:
Your camp has been asking for my solution and I shared it in clear terms.. I also believe it is fair with continued backing in the transfer window. And to your last sentence, oh yes, I know the club will give him an extension[b], I only shared my own solution.[/b]

I think the solution "my camp" wants to hear is who will replace Arteta should we sack him.

Jodera:
Lmaooo....
You never see something.


Person who claim to love arsenal yet he wants Chelsea to disgrace us wholeheartedly and let Hutchinson be the chief person to make Chelsea disgrace us just so that they'll sack Arteta.

Like let one of your biggest rival disgrace the club you 'love' because of one kekere Hutchinson.

Not that he likes the Hutchinson oo or that the boy na one Messi


You never see chumchin

You forgot about trusty being better than kiwior and how he would have been best for arsenal

Roland17:
It is the reason I highlighted Arsenal is at the peak of it's spending in decades. It is also why it is important to question things because we don't have deep pockets and future losses will be devastating for the club for FFP and the financial future of the club. By the end of his contract in 2025, if the club backs him in 2024 Summer/ 2025 Winter transfer, we may be close or at 1Billion.

Wenger gave arsenal lot of annual profits with nothing to show for it post Highbury era, but let's not talk about it shaa. Let this season finish first and we will know how is finance books are, andif we will spend 1billion. And for the contract, me and you know he will get one before his present ends.

Not Winning the league last year was our own undoing, we fvcked up and everyone admitted it, we had the league in our hands and couldn't hold on to it. Now tell me how we blame pep for it??. We are only trying to say that when competing with the best you can't avoid to loose guard and that was what we did last season. This season the race is at tight as it has ever been and yet some people can't see beyond trying to make a certain person there scapegoat.

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Roland17:
You guys are so stuck and sensitive to anything that compares Arteta..my goodness! Rather than make your case, you guys get overtly emotional about any comparison or anything that questions him..Jesu!

You are making my point. Invariably, the squad was so bad and Arteta has not improved the team in a vacuum. If any coach was given the financial support he He has had the support to improve the team from the clowns we were parading and was rewarded with a contract. No one questioned Ebening's firing, not me at least despite being a strong supporter.

You can't make such comparison and don't expect what you get. You can't compare wheelbarrow with truck. The transfer of pepe is still Arsenal's greatest mistake in the transfer market and that amount is one of the reasons arsenal is in the financial crisis. You were quick to justify emery and his squad forgetting how we were during his days. Aside the 22 games where we screamed "we've got our arsenal back, he fumbled when it matters most, top 4, UEL final and even wanted to drown us, but here you are trying to make him look like a saint while trying to downplay Arteta that's exactly the double standards you accused usof having.

Jodera:
When Emery faltered all domestic cup competitions and even our top 4 position (at a point we were topping Chelsea with 5-6 points) just to focus on Europa. In fact Chelsea from 5th came up to finish 3rd while we went on to finish 5th (with Tottenham dropping to 4th)
We lost the final 4-1 against same Chelsea. In their words we "bottled" both the league and the Europa League.


Now what is even surprising me is that nobody here, not even one person here called Emery a Bottler heading into the next season or throughout the off season. I mean, if our standards was so so high the way they claim now, Emery would have felt big heat the way they're doing to Arteta now but No, nobody called Emery a Bottler even when we were playing poorly the next season.

I would have been more understanding if they highly criticized Emery the way they're doing to Arteta now. Honestly, I wouldn't have been "attacking" like this. But I fail to understand how Emery who did worse was given leeway but Arteta is been hounded for doing way better.

What do we even know bruh, we're just Arteta fans that value him over the club.

Roland17:
One of my favorite philosophers is Socrates, because he encourages people to question their truth, especially as times evolve. I love to engage people who are open/ receptive to divergent ideas, especially positions that may be extreme to whatever they believe, it is the only way we can learn. You don't have to believe or accept my side but don't think you should shove your own down my throat because it doesn't conform to your herd.

I have never said Arteta has not improved the team, having issues with aspects of his coaching doesn't mean I don't see his work. Also, for the records and the education of everyone or anyone interested, OUR FINANCES ARE NOT GREAT! WE HAVE DECLARED LOSSES FOR 5 CONSECUTIVE SEASONS AND THAT HAS SIGNIFICANT FFP CONSEQUENCES.

That is why I encourage fans to always learn the finances of the club and not just talk like Arsenal is a backyard mom and pop shop. We are at the peak of our spending in decades under Arteta. We are not promoting and integrating young players from our academy into the first team to offset some of these expenses that are tied to FFP.

I'd also take your post as a subtle admission that Arteta has spent 700M

Thanks for keeping it civil.

Which is why they're trying to correct those finance books with the type of deals we're getting. And yes maybe I have accepted the 700m because[b] approximately[/b] it is.

Most of the folks against Arteta don't really have a reason for hating him, they just choose to understand our comments however they choose to and not in the direction and logical reason why we give them. Jumping to exaggerate any comments that fuels hate about the man.

Jodera:
I don't think the players and coach would want to lose that match cos of their fans. Then they know what's at stake and I understand.

It's just whether Postecogolue can be conservative enough to stop Man City is my fear. The guy team too deh open body

He has everything to play for, a decent chance of bringing them back to UCL and getting more finances. He will really his best but I doubt if they can make it

Jodera:
Lol, Time can make even a sinner turn Saint. It just needs to be long enough.

These incessant shots wey Man U dey concede anyhow, I remember say na during Emery I first experience am.

We were that baaaad!!!

But suddenly, him don turn reference point.

You don see am nah....

Roland talks about evening squad that reached the finals of europa, but where did we finish with that squad in the league?, Is it not the same squad that he used to almost send us to relegation before he was sacked?....

Roland17:
Do your research first before swallowing what you see.

January 2022, Arteta spent 1.8M but your graphic is showing 0
Auston Trusty 1.8M

Summer 2022, Arteta spent 131.6 but your graphic is showing 121.5
Jesus 52.2M
Zinchenko 35M
Vieira 35M
Turner 5.9M
Marquinhos 3.5M
The rest were loan returns

Summer 2021, Arteta spent 165.5 but your graphic is saying 156.8

Ben White 58.5M
Odegaard 35.0M
Ramsdale 28.0M
Tomiyasu 18.6M
Lokonga 17.50M
Tavares 8M
Saliba, Mecho (Kolasinac), Torreira and Guen all returned from loan.

Summer 2020, Arteta spent 84M but your graphic is showing 81.5

Use the link below to toggle through the summer and winter transfers.

https://www.transfermarkt.us/arsenal-fc/transfers/verein/11/plus/?saison_id=2023&pos=&detailpos=&w_s=s

I love informative argument, and what you brought up is really informative. Regardless, you and I know arsenal is on the right path, some of the fees like that of rice and Raya are already recorded in our financial books but are still yet to be paid in full which shows the clubs isn't only good on the pitch but other aspect of management too. Let's not get too bitter after one or two errors, they club knows what they sign up for when they appointed Arteta and he's proving them right for making such decision and backing him up. The transfer market isn't as cheap as it used to be. For one I can understand your stance here more than they others that follow you in shouting up and down. Five years was what Arteta proposed to get us back on track and he did it in his 3rd year, let's give him his flowers and also criticize him when he fails but not outright hating like he's the worst of worse

Ability to read and ability to read and understand isn't clearly the same thing. Like someone said earlier, common sense isn't actually common.

Spy360:
If Spurs play their normal attacking game and make sure Maddison makes the first eleven, they will beat or draw Man City.

Man City saving grace has been that teams give them too much respect and are scared of going all out with fear of being trashed.

I saw Nottingham Forest attack City and if not for that mumu Wood, the game would have ended draw.

I told my guy this same thing and he laughed. But small truth dey am

Sportsweb:
Another thing is why is Arteta not challenging well in other competitions?

This is Arteta second performing seasons yet he has no strong foot in other competitions.

Was literally dumped out of FA and Carabao cup early this season.

Got eliminated by Sporting in Round of 16 last season and also didn't go far in FA and Carabao Cup.

If Mikel Arteta was doing well in other competitions and even winning of them, arsenal fans won't feel bottling EPL that much.

Instead he is about deliver back-to-back top four spot and trophyless should City ends up clinching the league this season.

For those that will attack me, I'm aware Mikel has won FA Cup in 2020. What has he done with this supposed Arsenal Golden team im terms of silverware?

Golden team?.. na just last season and this season oo. And this season never finish. Golden team
Imagine a team that finished 8th and 5th respectively is challenging for league back to back and bad belle still dey wan make Dem sack coach..

BlueRayDick:
As in.... that day ehn, Arteta will not even step away from the touchline . He will nearly jump enter pitch to flog any player wey play rubbish

Spy360:
Keep your wishes to yourself because you need it more to get out of that ICU you call a football club.

FYI, the reason we are having a civil war is because, even though we trashed you guys at your backyard, we still feel our club played so poorly against yours to the point of debating whether to sack the manager.

That's how shitty you guys stink.🤮

Now get the f*CK out of here. 😂

Seriously that's why I have tried avoiding his mention. Like we're in having a fight because of how we played and still won your team and you no get shame to come de shalaye ontop. SMH

mostob:
Everton won't be easy if at all Spurs beat City but I still believe the boys can do it.

No EPL match is easy, you just have to find a way to win

Even man utd fan follow dey put mouth for wetin he no truely understand, yes we celebrated winning them in their own backyard with their full fans in it because it's been like ages since we did that, even the arsenal teams considered the best found it difficult to do. In as much as man utd isn't in the title race and their form isn't the best right now, they're still Arsenal's greatest rival when it comes to title challenge, at a time that kind of match was the benchmark for who will win the league. Shouting about mentality up and down makes me wonder if he truely understand what winning mentality is all about. If the winning mentality wasn't there would we be here straight up two seasons.... Would we have withstood pressure of not loosing in foes grounds??.... Rada rada up and down like say na him de give people the mentality he's talking about and it doesn't come from believing in yourself

Like I keep saying I want to believe and I believe that city will loose against shitty spurs(abeg make e just happen), then winning Everton will be all it takes to end all this Arụmụka. Ndewo

Roland17:
Arsenal have an obligation to pay 27M to Brentford which will be completed at the end of the season. Arsenal can’t pay 27M or have 27M in our books and still have 3M as loan fee, it doesn’t work that way. Incase you are unaware, part of moving the commitment to pay the 27M is hinged on FFP.

Good afternoon nwanne mmadu. The total amount arsenal spent in the summer is around 208 or so, add it with the obligation to pay Raya's fee that where you will get to the 238 I showed you up there. The rice fee isn't yet completed but it was also added there. This thing is easy to understand, don't make it seem so hard.

Roland17:
When last did Arsenal have the investment Arteta has enjoyed? The last time I checked we finished 5th before Ebening left, with a sorry team led by proven clowns at the back.. so what are we talking about here?

The attached is from transfer market. I am going to test your knowledge now with how it adds up to 700M. Remember, this doesn’t include the obligation to pay Brentford 27M for Raya, add ons and fees associated with each transfer.. Have a go at it..

Where was arsenal on the table the day evening was sacked?.
Was the transfer market as crazy as it is now during Wenger and evening days?... So what are we talking about here?