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Tightpussy2024:
Your claims are always boisterous. You start something then start giving conditions it can only exist. Anyway, its just opinions, so I am not bothered. Like sorry to say this, the above was quite dumb, even for you. By yul bringing another wife, isn't he interested in polygamy? What changes now?

Yul does not have the financial resources to engage in such. I have stated it here that any man who decides to be polygamous should have money. Yul does not have it.

99% of men condemn yul not because he has wronged his wife but because Judy is a divorcee with kids and not a fresh young girl. There is always a sinister prejudice to their moralizing

I am not a fan of a man abandoning his children as a result of polygamy or when he doesn't have money.

Why l don't trust the morality of a black man.

You are free to have romantic relationships with men from other races. It is a free world.

dealslip:
That's a PDF document. It's not from Forbes and it is obvious you didn't read the link I attached

So, show the link where Akande was listed by Forbes in 2001 in the top six billionaires.

I checked your list again and saw Akande being mentioned. So my bad for the oversight. However, there is nowhere Forbes listed him as the sixth richest man.

Here is an excerpt from ThisDay Newspaper:

There used to be a myth, at a point in time, that no Nigerian could rival Akande’s charming extravagance. In fact, long before the arrival of Forbes’ Rich List or Fortune 100 on the continent of Africa, Akande was one of the first set of Nigerians to have been described with superlatives as a billionaire.
https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2022/12/11/when-the-world-remembered-harry-akande/

Was Harry Akande rich? Yes. Was he listed by Forbes Magazine as the sixth richest man in 2001? No.

A Google simple search "Harry Akande Forbes": https://www.google.com/search?q=harry+akande+forbes&sca_esv=9aab8662baee94c4&sxsrf=ADLYWIKFsMGNdUeYUlQYGsBqXA5Lx7XXCQ%3A1721785252710&source=hp&ei=pFugZvqJKazP2roPxv-Y2Qw&iflsig=AL9hbdgAAAAAZqBptBghFAPdh6evgo27sq3PGpDUceZy&ved=0ahUKEwj66_Xyxb6HAxWsp1YBHcY_JssQ4dUDCBU&uact=5&oq=harry+akande+forbes&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6GgIYAiITaGFycnkgYWthbmRlIGZvcmJlczIFECEYoAFIrjFQAFisLnAAeACQAQCYAYgCoAGhFaoBBjEuMTQuNLgBA8gBAPgBAZgCE6ACgBbCAgQQIxgnwgIKECMYgAQYJxiKBcICCxAuGIAEGJECGIoFwgILEAAYgAQYkQIYigXCAgUQLhiABMICBRAAGIAEwgILEC4YgAQY0QMYxwHCAggQABiABBiLA8ICERAuGIAEGNQCGKgDGIsDGJwDwgIKEC4YgAQYJxiKBcICFBAuGIAEGKYDGMcBGKgDGIsDGK8BwgIOEC4YgAQYqAMYiwMYnAPCAg4QLhiABBioAxiZAxiLA8ICERAuGIAEGKgDGJgDGJoDGIsDwgIcEC4YgAQYpgMYJxj4BRioAxiYAxiKBRiaAxiLA8ICFBAuGIAEGJECGKgDGIoFGJoDGIsDwgIaEC4YgAQYkQIYpgMY-AUYqAMYigUYmgMYiwPCAhEQLhiABBjUAhikAxioAxiLA8ICBxAuGIAEGArCAgcQABiABBgKwgILEAAYgAQYhgMYigXCAggQABiABBiiBMICBhAAGBYYHpgDAJIHBjEuMTQuNKAHjrQB&sclient=gws-wiz

Nowhere does Forbes list him as a rich man.

It is funny how you disregard my link which has Forbes logo and website but expect me to believe your tale that Harry was listed as the sixth richest man by the same magazine.

Kelechi009:
Same here, but I do think she would win eventually. I sense some arrogance & overconfidence with Trump.

They should not under-rate her and most importantly don't attack her gender and racial background. He would be tempted but shouldn't fall into it.

dealslip:
Lol! you dont have any list, this link is not from forbes. I make bold to say that Harry Akande was indeed the richest Nigerian before Dangote came along. Its been a while but I know what I am saying. Here is a link from 2011 https://www.modernghana.com/news/319977/1/mike-adenuga-make-forbes-list-of-billionaires.html

So, this screenshot is not Forbes Magazine, but random people should believe ModernGhana?

Your link has no mention of the name "Akande". The discussion is not about Adenuga which the link is about or Dangote who has always been Nigeria's richest man.

Coolsat:
Bro the juju strong ooo 😂. He's the second husband, she married one Mr chike and had a child for him, she ran away from that one to Mr Obasi and had two kids for Obasi then after draining him she ran away with yul and had two kids for him as well. She has five babies for three different husbands. The Edochie's has vowed never to accept her into their home. You see why we say make guys dy avoid single mothers, they are very desperate except for some few of them.

Thanks for the information. I now understand the issue completely.

Going forward, Igbo men, especially those who toiled for their money, should desist from sponsoring women who are not related to them based on marriage. That is the business of the men in her family, not yours.

Anyway, it is a lesson for young men to learn from.

HRprof:
In Vienna, I've observed a fascinating aspect of European culture: the serious approach to bicycles as a mode of transportation making cycling accessible and practical for its citizens. Maybe to encourages more people to choose bicycles over cars, contributing to a cleaner environment and a healthier lifestyle. I also noticed that in Paris and Netherlands

The weather is a major contributor. In Singapore, the government tries the same, but citizens are not interested because it is in the tropics. While cycling in the city-state, Westerners who work in Singapore whine about the "scorching heat". Also, most cities in the EU are very small in size and there are alternative means of transport such as trams, buses and the metro. On the other hand, in Japan, cycling is a major form of transport, but not during the summer.

When you see them attack you as a Nigerian for supporting the GOP, show them these pictures. So-called Nigerian Democrats do so because they want easy access to the US. Nigerian elite class have resigned to fate that they don't have the intellect to develop the country, so they are hoping access to the US remains as it is one of the few places they run to and feel among.

Unsurprisingly, most of them campaigned and voted for Buhari in 2015, but those who couldn't japa are hoping the door does not shut in their faces. Hopefully, Trump wins and shuts the door and swallows the key!

tensazangetsu20:
I recall when he said that he gave birth to his kid in the US. How many Americans come to Nigeria to birth their kids in Nigeria.

Focusmind is a Nigerian elite, so don't be surprised by his love for the West to have his children, but disdain to live there. They are only patriotic on paper.

ednut1:
popular vote don’t determine who wins in America. What do you mean she is black, is that an advantage in a country where only 12% are black. What has she done for black people in her legal career Nothing. Even women wont vote her. She is not the traditional woman with children and cant relate
Only a dreamer will believe she stands a chance vs trump. 😂

He would not tell you that more black men voted for a white man in Georgia against a clear black woman, not a biracial Kamala.

dealslip:
I have searched but can't place my hands on it but I know he was once the 6th richest in the world in 2001

That is not true. No black person has ever appeared in the top ten richest people by Forbes Magazine.
This is Forbes richest list as of 2001: https://i.forbesimg.com/media/lists/10/2001/billpdf.pdf

Akande is rich, but is not a dollar billionaire.

Tightpussy2024:
Fine. You target societies in Asia and black communities. Every society should know what bothers them. my problem is you stating that ANY SOCIETY permitting it is doomed. Wherever you demographics is,let them practice their sanctioning. leave "small countries alone"

Fine, but as I stated in my previous reply to you with an example from Nordic countries, policymakers don't agree with you. Yes, any society that promotes wedlock, single parenting and baby mamaism and papaism is DOOMED. I am not changing my stance on an issue which has facts to support it. Point me gun, I no do.

Russia has one of the highest rate of SP. Your mantra on this forum on its effects is not witnessed there.

Russia is technically a doomed society with high rates of alcoholism. What helps it are: its degree of homogeneity, vast amounts of natural resources such as crude oil and a Soviet Union math education foundation. Also, because of its historical geopolitical issues with the West, trading partners are fewer and most times poorer.

So let your Asian and black societies shun SP. Don't impose it on the world. What l stated is not an exception, it is common ( in developed societies off course). I have had my friends introduce people as their step parents.

Anecdotal evidence, sorry, cannot be applied to the general society. Policymakers DON'T encourage the wanton spread of single parenting and baby mamaism and papaism with doses of "healthy co-parenting". That is a universal fact.

I am still waiting for an answer on the effects of adultery by men

In comparison to single parenting, baby mamaism and papaism with doses of "healthy co-parenting", the effects of adultery are less on the general society. Again, adultery as I have explained is largely biological, so it can be accepted grudgingly. Baby papaism and mamaism are not.

Kelechi009:
The tactical pressure will be worse under Kamala and the results of the policies they promote are already showing in America.

One of the main reasons I want her to lose, and to do so woefully. Let each society determine its trajectory without being pressured. Donald never pressured any country to accept America's ways. Just don't attack its core economic and military interests.

Ikoyi, Lekki and Twitter Democrats will say otherwise, but I wish to see them raising transgendered children.

Once a person starts arguing for single parenthood, just know their brain is fried.

What surprises me is seeing seemingly educated people advocate for a policy which harms the general society, and more so poor people, in the long-term. It is befuddling.

Tightpussy2024:
And for the societies you claim it works; what makes you think its a socialist package that causes it? It's responsibility and accountability.

As I stated, it works because they are homogenous countries with small populations. These policies cannot work just anywhere without factoring in the wealth, size and components of the populations.

Are we even talking about the same thing to start with? Because I see you ferociously attacking out of wedlock births whether both parties are involved and invested dutifully or not.

Wedlock generally is bad. That is how I see it. Nothing will change that stance.

Your impression is a man absconding or absent, and not a healthy co-parenting. Focus on your Asian and black and all the geographical locations you pick your stats from

"Healthy co-parenting"? Another fancy lovey-dovey phase. Did you not agree with me that no DECENT woman will agree to be a baby-mama rather than a wife? So, isn't it possible to have "healthy co-parenting" with a decent woman who is a baby mama?

Tightpussy2024:
Apt

Marriage is not for everyone. Leave responsible unwed couples and their kids alone.

I agree that marriage is not for everyone, but a society that promotes unwedded persons to have children in an unstructured model, aka "healthy co-parenting" and "decent baby mama and papas" is DOOMED. You saw it as Tensa20 explained it. Neither you nor I live in Chile. He does. He even shared the data with me to corroborate the high rate of single motherhood in the sub-region of Argentina, Chile and Uruguay. Chile was the highest. You read him clearly stated that children from single-parent homes, especially those led by the mothers, will likely fail in life. This is a raw example. So, how are they responsible, both men and women, in having children outside marriage yet cannot cater for them? Do you imagine the consequences of having such persons and their end products constitute 50-70% of the general population who have children?

Leave societies where this is not a problem alone.

It is a problem, if not policymakers will not be interested in increasing the birth rates from married households. They will be focused on increasing the number of single women to have children without husbands after all the total fertility rates still increase. But as clearly shown even in the gender-equal Nordic societies, policymakers DON'T encourage children outside marriage.. It is commonsense for policymakers to support married couples because married couples out-earn their single counterparts, they purchase homes, care for their immediate environments, raise the next generation, pay more taxes, consume more goods and build a better society. Single people as a whole don't achieve these core aims of any functioning society, and certainly not people who have children outside of marriage, aka "healthy co-parenting".

"Birth rates are falling in the Nordics. Are family-friendly policies no longer enough?" - FT
Open the article and read from the Finnish demographer, Anna Rotkirch, a policy expert on the issue. There was nowhere she encouraged children outside of marriage. This is a wealthy and homogenous society that is adjudged to be gender equal, yet doesn't encourage wedlock aka "healthy co-parenting".

Coolsat:
It's purely juju but yul submitted himself to be jujulized lol. Judy is one hell of a desperate woman, her ex husband revealed she can go any length for money and went further to say he's not even sure if those kids she has for him are still alive. Yul is the biggest fool in all of these. He scattered his beautiful family for a serial babymama of five kids three husbands

So, I wonder, what did this ex-husband see in Judy even after all the red flags?
Is he the first husband or second before Yul? Five children? I though they were three - two from Husband A and one from Husband B?
Does Judy have a child for Yul?

P.S. The Juju must be so strong that Rita and Pete cannot counter it o

Tightpussy2024:
I thought you have been defending polygamy and adultery in men. Or you hate the idea it had be a single mom.
Take a stand, what do you stand for?
There is no much difference between you and alpha meils. The difference is that they are driven by poverty and resentment, while you always are inconsistent in your claims, you try to back your sentiments and biases with facts and objectivity.

In our previous conversation regarding the Jaru.s' case, I offered three caveats. Which are:
- Don't infect your wife with a disease
- Don't have a child outside
- Don't bring another wife (Muslims and those interested in polygamy are exempted).

Kelechi009:
Anyone arguing against the value of a two-parent household is not worth engaging with; I would just leave them to their own misguided views. A stable two-parent family is the cornerstone of any society. This is one reason I have concerns about aspects of Black American culture. I believe that immigrants from India, Africa, and Mexico often excel because they tend to relocate with their families and maintain strong family structures. It’s challenging for a single-parent Black American household to compete academically or professionally with a two-parent immigrant household, and they often fall short.

Yes, I look forward to the results of these social policies they promote. I want to see how they will defeat evolution and nature. My problem is the power of American media and government to cajole people outside the country to copy these ideas. For instance, Japan has seen tactical pressure from the Biden administration and his ambassador here to legalise LGBT marriage. This was not the same under Trump. The same applies to Uganda and Ghana being denied loans because of their anti-LGBT stances. I don't watch movies or listen to American musicians, so I am not bothered by that aspect.

Coolsat:
It's very true bro, he trained her through the university and spent heavily on her and she drained the man financially because she kept failing. She asked the man to relocate her to Enugu so she can be close to Yul unknown to him while the man reside and do his business in anambra. She eventually got to Enugu and according to the man Yul was sleeping with her right under his roof and still introduced yul to her family while still married to him and the family too welcomed yul. He said neighbors were all aware of his sexcapades with yul except him and though he had his suspicion but it became clear when she made him relocate her to Enugu to be closer to yul. The man later broke down in tears in the live video. Yul and Judy are one hell of a wicked soul. Imagine doing all this to a fellow man and still denied him access to his kids

Thanks for the revelation. Truly, both are useless, especially Yul.

I am wondering, do you think Juju is involved or is it the bursty body of Judy that has scattered Yul's brain?

Ebeano49:
The way she's carefully calling him the 'Senator' show say na true. A wrongly accused woman won't have time for any nicety.

He is the senate president. He deserves some respect even though she is disgusted by the accusation. You don't expect her to insult his person publicly.

dealslip:
Dakore is from a well to do family and also married into the very very very wealthy family of Harry Akande. Before Dangote started featuring in Forbes list of wealthiest men in Nigeria. Harry Akande was a regular name of Forbes wealthiest man. Even Akpabio can not lace the sandals of Harry Akande. Dakore is married to the heir of Harry Akande, Olumide. She has been married for over 12 years, how will she now be dating Akpabio plus this lady doesn't even flaunt any wealth or flesh on line. She is also a very good actress and presenter
Gistlover is just a piece of shit

Could you please post the Forbes publication which had Akande on it?

Thanks.

damble:
Before nko as expected, they will deny it even if she's caught red handed

She offered N5 million if you have evidence. Abi you no want N5 million?

Tightpussy2024:
I am even glad you indicated poor in your research. You purposefully target not wealthy societies without child support laws in your research.
Why not ask of single parenting in Switzerland, Denmark and the rest? Always east Asian and black communities. You are looking for what you want to see and you find it.

First, after the geographical West, East Asia comprising China, Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan and their cultural cousins in Singapore, are the wealthiest set of folks in the world. Those countries and their cities compete favourably with their Western peers. Some are members of the OECD and all are members of the US Visa Program. So, they are not poor.

As for Denmark and Switzerland, it is always easy and cheap to provide socialist programs in homogenous countries with small populations. Both countries don't have up to 15 million people combined. So, it is easy to do yanfu-yanfu with public funds. Heterogeneous countries which are racially, ethnically and religiously diverse should not attempt the same. It would lead to bad outcomes. Again, evidence has been stated.

As far as I know, the society a SM is , has more effect than that of her being a SM herself. Where I reside, the kids spends time with both parents. The child receiving care from both father and step father.you will purposely target societies of poverty where the man runs away or is in prison and nothing compels him to, to reinforce your claims.

The two-parent household still holds. The erstwhile husband is still present - emotionally and financially. However, that is an exception as exemplified by similar events elsewhere. Again, East Asia is not poor. Does Hong Kong or South Korea sound like poor places to you?

By all means if society notices it causes a problem they should enforce laws to curb it. I am in for this.

We agree on something, for once. Good gracious Lord.

ll I asked is give the same research to the impacts of adultery.

Every concept or ideology has positive and negative impacts. However, as seen, single parenting has more adverse than adultery as adultery is linked to biology whereas single parenting isn't. It is like outlawing prostitution vs cybercrime. One is common because it is performed by humans because of their biological inklings. However, cybercrime is a criminal act.

yomi531:
Yorubas in kogi(Okuns) are Predominantly Christians. I can bet my black as$ on that. I'm yet to see A Muslim from Ekiti and Ondo State. Of cuz, I know u have heard the saying by the Ijebus that goes thus: ijebu lo ni Jesu. My own State of Origin(Osun) has more Christians. Oyo is too close to call. Apart from kwara that has Almost 70% Muslim population in Yoruba land, which other state supports ur lie lie claims in SW?

We agree on one thing now - having the highest number of gospel musicians or popular songs does not mean you have the highest proportion of Christians. About the bold: Are you really sure about the bold?

And if there are more Yoruba Christians, why are the political bigwigs mostly Muslims?

jayce232:
This same man single handedly saw Judy through school. He trained her in the university. Stop saying what u don't know.

Please, how sure are you?

Tempulated:
So this hoe don marry before chaiii.

Yes. She has children from TWO men before meeting the useless Yul. Yul is too useless to have left his wife who had four children for a woman who had two abi three children from two men.

tensazangetsu20:
Chile Is an amazing country but unfortunately it's not paradise. Chile as a country has very

The education gap is also very wide. It's very expensive to go to school in Chile from primary school to university so if you are born in a low income household you are pretty much bleeped to be honest. It will take the grace of god to pull out. To be born to a poor single mother household in Chile is equivalent to being born an almajiri in Nigeria. There's really not much difference. Life on earth would be hell for both people.

Another problem I have noticed is that the family unit in Chile is completely broken. A lot of Chilean men are very irresponsible and that has led to a huge number of single mothers. It's almost an epidemic here. There's like so many single mothers. Most times these kids are left to the mothers to raise and it's extremely difficult especially if the lady doesn't have a good career or profession going for her.

East Asian women know why they rather remain single than have children out of wedlock. Any society that promotes single parenting over the two parent household model is DOOMED for eternity.

cc: IbeOkehie & Tightpussy2024

franchasofficia:
That's the truth.

This is why they hate Igbos and Southeast, they know Southeast aka Igbos are the pillar of Christianity in Nigeria who have refused to allow Islam infiltrate Southeast region like other regions. This is the main reason they don't want an Igbo man to become Nigeria's President but Nigerian Christians don't know, they think it's just because Igbos are Igbos or because they tried to secede from Nigeria, it is beyond that, it's mostly about religion.

Should there be a Biafra, the rest of Nigeria automatically becomes an Islamic Republic, no ifs or buts.

yomi531:
Yoruba Christians are far higher than their Muslim counterparts. No allow them deceive u. Check out all the Daddy GOs na. Gospel Singers too . We have more Yoruba Christian worship songs than any other Tribe in Naija. Is that a joke to u? Only winners , redeemed and Mountain of fire members surpass Yoruba Muslims. Not to talk of Cele, CAC, and many more...

Just because Yorubas dominate Pentecostal Christianity does not mean there are more Yoruba Christians than Yoruba Muslims. In fact, one can ask that since, according to you, there are more Gospel songs by Yoruba singers in the country, how come Igbos constitute the ethnic group with the largest number of Christians in the country?

As for actual religious populations, I am willing to bet that there are more Yoruba Muslims than Yoruba Christians especially when those in Kwara and Kogi are added, both of which are predominately Muslim states.

UstazAhmed:
Be deceiving your self. We have more single women Christians than Muslims. One man in Islam, can give birth to 20 kids from his four wives. But an average Christian won't birth more than 5

Here: https://www.prb.org/resources/polygamy-in-west-africa-impacts-on-fertility-fertility-intentions-and-family-planning/

The next question is: which region has the highest birth rate? If the highest fertility rates are found in Muslim-dominated regions, then Muslims are the fastest-growing in the country. Polygamy does not lead to an increase in fertility rates. What we should be interested is in the actual fertility rates amongst each fertile woman in the Muslim north vs the Christian south. The religion in the region with the highest TFR rate wins it.

To better answer the bold, here is the answer:

The misconception is seen today. People often reflexively mis-explain polygamy as the cause of the higher population growth in northern Islamic Africa compared to southern Christian Africa. While Islamic Africans may have a higher fertility rate, the reason is not attributed to polygamy, but the age at which women first become pregnant, usually correlated to education. The more a society educates its women, the lower the fertility rate

franchasofficia:
Useless figure from the pit of hell.


Christians are more than Moslems in Nigeria don't let any liar deceive you.Southeast is homogeneously Christians that make up around 95% of the SE population, with 4.9% traditional worshippers and Atheists, 0.0001% Moslems, and population of Southeast is around 50million plus.Yoruba is 52% Moslem, 45% Christian, the rest are Ifa worshippers and Atheists. And Yoruba population is around 53million. Southsouth is predominantly Christians; 80% Christians, 8% Moslems and the rest traditional worshippers, and the population of Southsouth is around 45million. Middlebelt is predominantly Christians with around 65% Christians, 30% Moslems, and 5% traditional worshippers and Atheists, and Middlebelt population stand around 40million. Northeast is predominantly Moslems with around 78% Moslems, 17% Christians and 5% traditional worshippers, etc, with a total population of around 41million. Northwest is the most predominantly Moslem region in Nigeria with around 92% Moslems, 5% Christian and 3% other religions and their population stand around 55million.
So how can Christians be 76million in Nigeria?

While your numbers are interesting, please where did you source them from?

Amujale:
Christianity is one of the worst ideologies ever to set foot on African soil.

LIES! The most prosperous countries in sub-Saharan Africa have their economies dominated by Christians.

LadyExcellency:
Polygamy doesn't increase population. The number of women giving birth does.
If you have 100 Muslim women and 100 Christian women in a country, Polygamy won't make your population to increase but rather, it will decrease by divorce and remarry with attendant child mortality rate.

A nice observation there and you are correct. Here: https://www.prb.org/resources/polygamy-in-west-africa-impacts-on-fertility-fertility-intentions-and-family-planning/

The next question is: which region has the highest birth rate? If the highest fertility rates are found in Muslim-dominated regions, then Muslims are the fastest-growing in the country.

ogascomax:
It's a lie to say Muslims are more than Christians when Christians dominate in most of the Geo political zones. South South is ours, East is ours, West we get am, North central we have Christians spread through out the States, same with North East and North West, kaduna have so much Christians. Who is deceiving who in this country that Muslims are more.

So, how come Nigeria has a Muslim-Muslim presidency?

Muslims dominate the North West and slightly over the North East. For the North Central, Muslims dominate the region. Any dominance by Christians was pre-Buhari. There is no way Christians dominate the North Central after the brutal massacres which characterised the region under Buhari.

Nigeria's future is Islamic. Better get used to it.

https://www.nairaland.com/8003630/conclusion-nigeria-after-8-months#up This is a thread by someone whose work took him round the country.