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Business To BusinessRe: Catfish Fo Sale by ghazzal: 4:05pm On Feb 20, 2013
helo All we have table size catfish for sale.
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Car TalkRe: My Car, Nissan Altima '00, Does Not Start Immediately After Buying Fuel by ghazzal: 8:55am On Dec 21, 2012
@ chibube, thanks for the advice the last time.
I changed my fuel pump. after just 1 day, the problem i had returned again. I bought it for 7000 naira. The scan i did after the pump change indicates the fuel line is still the problem. so i had to change the fuel pump again. This second time, i bought it for 5000 naira- The car has since performed.

My conclusion is that not all pumps are of same Quality and i think altima 2000 is sensitive to this. A friend had to change his 3 times before getting his car to perform.
My Question is " is there a way to know a good fuel pump" there must be a particular brand around that is reliable or a place to buy.
IslamRe: *~Tbaba1234 Voted Islam For Muslims Section Poster Of 2012 *~ Congratulations by ghazzal: 8:16am On Dec 19, 2012
tbaba
IslamRe: Simple Spiritual Equation by ghazzal: 1:02pm On Dec 13, 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Mark

"The Gospel According to Mark (Greek: κατὰ Μᾶρκον εὐαγγέλιον, τὸ εὐαγγέλιον κατὰ Μᾶρκον, to euangelion kata Markon), commonly shortened to the Gospel of Mark or simply Mark, is the second book of the New Testament. This canonical account of the life of Jesus of Nazareth is one of the three synoptic gospels. It was thought to be an epitome, which accounts for its place as the second gospel in the Bible. However, most contemporary scholars now regard it as the earliest of the canonical gospels[1] (c 70).[2]"

"According to Papias of Hierapolis, writing in the early 2nd century, this gospel was by John Mark, the companion of Saint Paul in Rome, who "had one purpose only – to leave out nothing that he had heard, and to make no misstatement about it."[15] Other early writers such as Irenaeus agree with this.[16] "No early church tradition and no church father ascribes the Gospel to anyone other than Mark."[17] Some modern scholars believe that the gospel was written in Syria by an unknown Christian no earlier than AD 70, using various sources including a passion narrative (probably written), collections of miracles stories (oral or written), apocalyptic traditions (probably written), and disputations and didactic sayings (some possibly written).[5] Some of the material in Mark, however, goes back a very long way, representing an important source for historical information about Jesus.[5]"

above tells us that the book was not written earlier than 60 Yrs after Jesus Left the scene. The writer did not have any direct relationship with Jesus= all information by the writer are at least Third party information. Can anyone in-house please tell us how he tried to verify the authenticity of his information as i will want to believe most materials written in Jesus` time that are free to the public will be the ones acceptable by his enemies in leadership postion which may most likely not potray Jesus` real message. This and many others are the source of Mark as i will want to believe.

a contrary opinion is welcome as this is my own opinion based on above info from wikipedia.


May most high God in his mercy open our heart to the truth (which he knows) and guide us aright
IslamRe: For Muslims: Contradictions In The Quran by ghazzal: 12:07pm On Dec 13, 2012
DanielNoble: if the quran cannot be clearly explained in another language other than Arabic then islam is for arabs not for the world thats why muslims around the world are struggling.if some claim not to be struggling then they are mixing it with their human knowledge.
This is about language and not islam. translation from one language to another can never be perfect. It is enough reason to doubt the english bible too. Try using Google translate and see the options it will give you during translation of some words.

Some words in a language can have over 3 meanings in another language. When you now traslate sequentially to 4 different languagees, immagine if the content will not almost be lost. The Quran is simply preserved in it original language and that in itself is a miracle whether you like it or not. among the oldest maniscript that still retains its original language.
IslamRe: For Muslims: Contradictions In The Quran by ghazzal: 11:56am On Dec 13, 2012
DanielNoble: i will respect islam and the quran the day it becomes capable of defending itself without the Bible.
The Quran does not need to defend itselt cos the information is clear enough without contradiction.

muslims refer to the Bible because christians believe in it and it has some information that is same with the Quran.

To be objective: The Quran and Bible have some similar information,
The Quran claims to be without error or contradiction which the Bible cannot claim such
Unyielding efforts have been made to prove the Quran has error but fails always
The Quran has information the bible does not have (about earlier prophets)which shows that it could not have been copied from the Bible as claimed.
Authors of the Bible lived years after Jesus while Quran claims to be from God the most High
...

Then ask yourself, is your criticism a sincere one to confirm the truth? you have just one life to live. Be wise
IslamRe: Divorce And Remarriage, Weird Laws by ghazzal: 3:58pm On Dec 11, 2012
Saint paris: Geez, Why you trying so hard to prove that your Quran is incomplete and useless without some man made narration? The Quran claims to be the Qur’an, on repeated occasions reiterates its claim to be a clear book (5:15) easy to understand (44:58, 54:22, 54:32, 54:40) explained in detail (6:114), conveyed clearly , (5:16, 10:15) with no doubt in it (2:1), with clear ordinances , ( 98:3 ), of divine nature , ( 10:37 ) full of wisdom , ( 36:2 ) etc. Yet you tell us that we must first learn its “hadiths” in order to understand its meaning or Islam. If that is the case then what shall we make of the above claims of the clarity of the Qur’an? If we first need to learn the “hadiths” before we begin to understand it, then the claim that the book is clear and easy to understand is false.

Goodluck to you in your quest of trying to prove that the quran is incomplete. Not sure if you'll need it, still cheesy
@Saint Paris

It is not about prooving that the Quran is not complete without the Hadith. may God forbid such thought. But that the Hadith is not relevant is also trash. While i understand that the Hadith may be corrupt and will be careful with the message, it is not worthy for a Muslim to say it is crap. it is a sign of disbelief in itself. The Prophet lived the Quran, he was described as a walking Quran, is such a life not worthy of being studied, is it not wisdom to want to view "how did the Prophet interprete the Quran?" He will agree that no ones understanding of the Quran can surpass the Prophets` hence emulation of the prophets ways. If an hadith now says the Prophet does something contrary to the Quran, it can be ignored or seen as trash but not regarding the Hadith generally as trash-it is a sign of disbelief
IslamRe: Divorce And Remarriage, Weird Laws by ghazzal: 2:15pm On Dec 11, 2012
on the relevance of Hadith in Islam, can you please tell me about surah Masad. A non-muslim will ask you if your God will curse a man for no reason -what will you say?

While the Quran has it all, Hadith helps you put the information together, gain better understanding of the Quran. if any hadith contradicts the Quran, it is not to be given relevance, that does not mean that Hadith generally is not relevant.

'If a matter is for you to be decided, reference the Quran, if you cannot understand it in the Quran, use the Hadith......" there is an hadith as such, the hadith Judgement should always conform with the Quran but the Quran should always be the first point of call.

The prophet has exemplary behaviour: the Quran teaches that. some Hadith shows that and some show otherwise, a muslim will consider the hadith that conform with the Quran and be careful about the Other that is contradictory.
IslamRe: Why Qur'an Alone? by ghazzal: 2:04pm On Dec 05, 2012
usisky: ^^^^I wil answer all ur questions d moment i get access to a PC. Most probably tomrw...God willing!
im wondering if tomorrow has not come o!
IslamRe: Divorce And Remarriage, Weird Laws by ghazzal:
usisky:




@ USISKY, Peace

I appreciate your contribution above and its clarity. Also your chouce of words is exemplary. May God reward us for our Good deeds, Forgive our errors and make us better Muslims.

My Concern is your claim of disbelief in the Hadith. I understand that almost all groups refer to the Hadith to back their claims and the Hadith is not free of false information. But Dont you think there are some true information in it as well?

Edit: Also, according to the link,

1: How do you guys know that it was the last 2 verses in Surah 9 that was added?
2: Who said your calculation of 19 could not have been a fluke that you use it to detect an addition to the Quran-(what if your thoughts are wrong as humans)?
3: Are yu saying that Allah Could not keep his promise to protect the Quran for 1400 years?
4: When Ali was a khalf, why did he not restore your acclaimed original Quran?

The history you refer to about Ali being in his house and not wanting to go out cos of addition to the Quran was from what Source...... hope its not the Hadith since you do not believe in the Hadith.
and i suppose you dont pray 5 times (2-4-4-3-4) daily cos that is according to the Hadith you dont believe in.

May God guide us to the right Path, the path of those who have earned his favour and not those who have gone astray.
IslamRe: Jinn Stories by ghazzal:
amen.

If mr A, a muslim has a friend, mr B. Mr B is a christian but benefits from Mr A`s friendship while Mr A sees it as Ibadah. so the benefit becomes mutual i suppose.

Mr A realises some attitude of Mr B that speculates posibilities of being/becoming fetish - this i believe may incraese Mr As vulnerability cos of their friendship. is it ok to advise Mr A to keep away from Mr B puting in mind that Mr B benefits from mr A.

i think mr A can not talk about this to Mr B for some reasons i dont know..... ofcourse their friendship is not intimate but still close.
IslamRe: For Muslims: Contradictions In The Quran by ghazzal: 10:00am On Nov 29, 2012
truthman2012: Quran 54:18-19 - The tribe of Aad rejected warning. Then how dreadful was My punishment after My warnings! Lo We let loose on them a raging wind on 'a day' of constant calamity.
Quran 69:6-7 - And as for Aad, they were destroyed by a fierce roaring wind, Which He imposed on them for 'seven long nights and eight long days' so that thou mightest have seen men lying overthrown, as they were hollow trunks of palm-trees.


isnt it simple enough, the raging wind was let loose in a day and it lasted as a fierce roaring wind for 7 long nights/8 days.

PLEASE DONT BE BLINDED BY YOUR QUEST TO FIND FAULT... my friend


ghazzal:

I don't want to agree with your explanation. You are saying the raging wind was let loose in a day and it lasted for 7 nights/8 days.

What about 41:16 - Therefore We let loose on them a raging wind in evil days.....

Here the raging wind was let loose in days, not in a day as you want people to believe. So the contradictions remains unchanged.
My friend, whichever way you want to think of i, its still english and i believe it is explicit enough........

if it were an exam Question relatimg to the statement".... Lo We let loose on them a raging wind on a day of constant calamity......they were destroyed by a fierce roaring wind, Which He imposed on them for 'seven long nights and eight long days'..."

and the Question says how many days did the wind last?

note that we can reframe as: ...We let loose on them a raging wind of constant calamity on a day. compare with if "on a day" had been "(for a day) or (on a day only)" => "We let loose on them a raging wind of constant calamity for a day..." are these the same? nto even when it is further described how many days the wind lasted.

again the Question says how many days did the wind last?

I hope you understand now.
IslamRe: Shirk/mushrik; An Example Of Intolerance? by ghazzal: 9:02am On Nov 29, 2012
fornication and theft have their respective punishment according to sharia.the above hadith will want me to ask why must i accept punishment since i am already saved.

In islam, every act of man have its reward-rewards could be favourable or unfavourable. so whoever funicates will either be rewarded in this life or in the life-to-come.

and the reward for a mushrik is as you said. but what happens if a mushrik also repents? or dont you think you can also repent like the fornicator or the thief in your example. May The most high God guide us to righteousness.
IslamRe: What Do Muslims Really Think About Clubbing? Western Vs Conservative Islam! by ghazzal: 8:49am On Nov 29, 2012
is there any benefit in clubbing. A muslim should not waste his precious time on what is not beneficial to him in this life or in the life-to-come. also, what does he see/hear in the club? his eyes and ears will give account to that while his mouth will not speak. A muslim should live a righteous and responsible life. IS clubbing a sign of responsibility?....... you know better as there are many other ways to live life and enjoy it.
IslamRe: Divorce And Remarriage, Weird Laws by ghazzal: 8:37am On Nov 29, 2012
Dear Saint Paris, are you married? I ask this cos i want to know if there was ever a case when a decision had to be made, you are strongly positive about "A" but your wife was strongly positive about "B". There are risks to be considered so i ask whose option will be primary?
You only decieve yourselve to nail Islam. The man is the Head of the Family-If you call that slavery to the Wife, thats in your mind hence your problem. And the Head is wholy responsible for the Family in all ways.
Some men push responsibilities to their wife, i trust you dont do that as in Islam, it is a show of irresponsibility from the Husband, it is wrong. in Islam, a rich woman has the right not to spend her money on the family.

And only in islam is the Man thought how to relate with his wife(another reason Islam it is complete) or cn you show me one in your book?.

in my analogy, a non-Good man may not be able to show love nor have the patience to tollerate his wife. no one is a perfect creature! while the non-Good man will find it easy to say divorce 3ce on a phone, the Good man will be willing to support his non-good wife to be a better person.
IslamRe: For Muslims: Contradictions In The Quran by ghazzal: 3:26pm On Nov 28, 2012
[quote author=truthman2012][/quote]Quran 54:18-19 - The tribe of Aad rejected warning. Then how dreadful was My punishment after My warnings! Lo We let loose on them a raging wind on 'a day' of constant calamity.
Quran 69:6-7 - And as for Aad, they were destroyed by a fierce roaring wind, Which He imposed on them for 'seven long nights and eight long days' so that thou mightest have seen men lying overthrown, as they were hollow trunks of palm-trees.


isnt it simple enough, the raging wind was let loose in a day and it lasted as a fierce roaring wind for 7 long nights/8 days.

PLEASE DONT BE BLINDED BY YOUR QUEST TO FIND FAULT... my friend
IslamRe: For Muslims: Contradictions In The Quran by ghazzal: 3:19pm On Nov 28, 2012
truthman2012: Quran 4:82 - Will they not ponder on the Quran? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity (discrepancy).

The above stresses the point that the Quran has no contradictions because it was from Allah. In other words it means it is not from Allah if contradictions are found in it.

Now that many contradictions are discovered in the quran it means no doubt the Book is not from Allah as He is not expected to make mistakes as the Omniscience.

Apart from the contradictions being discussed in this thread there are several others. Muslims' defence to the contradictions are not acceptable because they are not convincing.

Here is another contradiction to add up to the ones in this thread:

Quran 54:18-19 - The tribe of Aad rejected warning. Then how dreadful was My punishment after My warnings! Lo We let loose on them a raging wind on 'a day' of constant calamity.

Note: ''a raging wind on a day of constant calamity''.

Quran 69:6-7 - And as for Aad, they were destroyed by a fierce roaring wind, Which He imposed on them for 'seven long nights and eight long days' so that thou mightest have seen men lying overthrown, as they were hollow trunks of palm-trees.

Here, Aad was destroyed in seven nights and eight days which is a sharp contradiction to the one day stated in 54:18-19.

I cannot understand why muslims believe the true Almighty God could make such a glaring mistake. Didn't Allah know how many days it actually took him to destroy Aad?

Therefore because of so many contradictions found in the quran, it could not be from the All-knowing God.
this impression of yours have been corrected on a tread i once saw. again, from your quote above"...Lo We let loose on them a raging wind on 'a day' of constant calamity.
" did you not see the word "let loose" what does it men to "let loose in a day"...... similarly, I travelled to Ibadan on thursday....... and somewhere else, i say i was in Ibadan for 7 days.... and you truthman say i contradict myself!. sometimes i wonder how you people interprete English. That your book is contradictory does not mean the Quran too must be....keep trying.....God is watching you from above
IslamRe: Why Are Muslim Imams Not Buying Private Jets? by ghazzal: 12:10pm On Nov 28, 2012
why does a "claimed man of God" have to be international, arent there men of God in those places too?

Imams are everywhere. so no need to roam about.

also, some might think that they dont have the money, that is true. Money by muslims to Imams is meant for the poor and not Imams living extra-large. unfortunately, we are obliged to give very little 2.5% of out Profit- thats profit after all debts are payed.
IslamRe: Divorce And Remarriage, Weird Laws by ghazzal: 12:01pm On Nov 28, 2012
ghazzal: basic possible parties in a marriage and possible outcomes relative to divorce (my view based on islamic style)

Good man - Good Woman - list possibility of breakup/Divorce or most likely no breakups

Good Man - not-Good Woman - mid posssibility of brekup. if woman does does not change (to be a Good woman), it will be hoped she meets her match

not Good Man- Good Woman - High posssibility of brekup. The man looses as the woman has opportunity to meet a better Person (if shes careful, she may end up as in scenario 1 above)

not-Good Man - not-Good Woman - Possibility of breakup is there but they are meant for each other. besides, they do not deserve to be muslims anyway. (marry your kind)

conclussion: islamic law gives opportunity for the GOOD Woman to be happier if the Husband refuse to be a good man. but most Good men do not even divorce their non-Good.
wifes.

IT IS CLEAR IN ISLAM THAT DIVORCE IT FROWNED AT. but it just may be necessary at times (nostly when the woman is unchaste).
WHO HAS A BETTER OPTION FOR MAN? or which/What divorce process/option is better.......verily, God in the Quran know man more than we know ourselves. isnt it obvious
IslamRe: Divorce And Remarriage, Weird Laws by ghazzal: 11:27am On Nov 28, 2012
basic possible parties in a marriage and possible outcomes relative to divorce (my view based on islamic style)

Good man - Good Woman - list possibility of breakup/Divorce or most likely no breakups

Good Man - not-Good Woman - mid posssibility of brekup. if woman does does not change (to be a Good woman), it will be hoped she meets her match

not Good Man- Good Woman - High posssibility of brekup. The man looses as the woman has opportunity to meet a better Person (if shes careful, she may end up as in scenario 1 above)

not-Good Man - not-Good Woman - Possibility of breakup is there but they are meant for each other. besides, they do not deserve to be muslims anyway. (marry your kind)

conclussion: islamic law gives opportunity for the GOOD Woman to be happier if the Husband refuse to be a good man. but most Good men do not even divorce their non-Good.
wifes.

IT IS CLEAR IN ISLAM THAT DIVORCE IT FROWNED AT. but it just may be necessary at times (nostly when the woman is unchaste).
IslamRe: Only One God In Islam.am Confused by ghazzal: 11:07am On Nov 22, 2012
tintingz: TAKEN FROMHERE

“...Before them the People
of Noah rejected (their
Messenger): they
rejected Our servant,
and said, “Here is one
possessed!” and he was
driven out. Then he
called on His Lord: “I am
one overcome: do Thou
then help (me)!” So We
opened the gates of
heaven, with water
pouring forth. .
@USISKY, i think you only seek for a superior argument to yours and i believe that is Islam. besides, i like your line of argument, it looks honest.

first, what do you think of the above use of "our" since Noah`s servitude was only to most High God and none of his creatures. I think God uses what he wills when he wills as in above comment. besides, this should have no impact on our deen nor faith so it should not be dragged unnecessarily except that one needs to understand that the use of "we" or "our" or any other form of plurality does not mean that there are 3 Gods in One or that there are more than 1 God. that is clear in Islam. God is One.
why does he use plural?, he choose to use it...... is there anyone who can Query him for that? our inquisition may make us make several assumptions on that but it is not necessary............. it could even be that the use of plural is to PRIDE himself when he wants (God knows best).
mind you that the use of singular or plural personification is just Language - some peoples defination.
The Quran is clear and should be easily understood. this can be infered to in several verses of the Quran itself. but why do we have slightly different translation of some verses by different people? I would agree with you if you had said included the clause "reading in Arabic". I dont understand arabic but i can refer you to any tranlated Quran with commentary. Go to fathia and see the comment on Rabbi- it is obvious that the use of LORD is just not sufficient. that is just 1 word and there are several like it. While the translation is sufficient to quench ones` quest for knowledge, the Arabic will always give better insight. (just my thought)
Christianity EtcRe: The Difference Between The Average Nairaland Muslim And Nairaland Christian by ghazzal: 8:40am On Nov 22, 2012
this is a nice one on personal opinions/views of the other. and i sincerely hope it will remain that.
No religious argument, abuses nor use of names for the other party........just honest opinion and ....i like to follow this.
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IslamRe: 10th Day Of Muharram: The Reason Muslims Fast On This Day Makes Me Curious by ghazzal(op): 10:16pm On Nov 19, 2012
May God guide us aright. Actually, i read once in d bible Where it was instructed that they fast in the 9th month and i was hoping that somehow/sometimes the calender for the Muslims and that of the Jews had somethings in common.
IslamRe: 10th Day Of Muharram: The Reason Muslims Fast On This Day Makes Me Curious by ghazzal(op): 1:23pm On Nov 19, 2012
A fast-day among the Muslims, observed on the tenth day of the month MuḦarram, and derived from the Jewish Day of Atonement, celebrated on the tenth of Tishri (Lev. xvi. 29, xxiii. 27). The name is an Aramaic form of the Hebrew word "'Asor" (the tenth), still to be found in a liturgical poem for the Day of Atonement (, M. Sachs, "Festgebete der Israeliten," 4th ed., pt. iv. 88).
IslamRe: 10th Day Of Muharram: The Reason Muslims Fast On This Day Makes Me Curious by ghazzal(op): 1:02pm On Nov 19, 2012
in the above, what makes me curious is, if the reason is to celebrate Moses` victory that the Jews fast on this day, and the christians fast too (recognise it, what kind of calender do they refer to. how do they know the exactness of this day since gregorian callender was not in existence then but the Julian calender is close to it anyway.
Islam10th Day Of Muharram: The Reason Muslims Fast On This Day Makes Me Curious by ghazzal(op): 1:00pm On Nov 19, 2012
'Ashura' commemorates the day that Allah saved the Children of Israel from Pharaoh.

Fasting on Muharram 10, known as the Day of 'Ashura', expiates for the sins of the past year. When the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) arrived in Madinah in 622 CE, he found that the Jews there fasted on Muharram 10 and asked them the reason for their fasting on this day. They said," This is a blessed day. On this day Allah saved the Children of Israel from their enemy (in Egypt) and so Prophet Musa [Moses] fasted on this day giving thanks to Allah."

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said,

"We are closer to Musa than you are."

He fasted on that day and commanded Muslims to fast on this day. (Al-Bukhari) The following year, Allah commanded the Muslims to fast the month of Ramadan, and the fasting of 'Ashura' became optional. It is also reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) intended to fast on the ninth and tenth. Ibn 'Abbas reported: The Messenger of Allah fasted on the day of 'Ashura' and ordered the people to fast on it. The people said, "O Messenger of Allah, it is a day that the Jews and Christians honor." The Prophet said, "When the following year comes, Allah willing, we shall fast on the ninth." The death of the Prophet came before the following year. (Muslim and Abu Dawud)
source: http://www.islamicity.com/articles/articles.asp?ref=io0801-3489
IslamRe: Only One God In Islam.am Confused by ghazzal: 12:36pm On Nov 19, 2012
Odunnu: save your lecture ma'am. I ask for a verse(s) only.
rad chapter 19. maryam..... and i hope you can finish it. May God in his mercy guide us aright.
Christianity EtcRe: Do You Realise The Bible Was Compiled via A VOTE In Constantine's Palace? by ghazzal: 11:09am On Nov 19, 2012
jcross19: you are free man if you can remain till eternity , you are free if you can control time and if you can control the circumstances around you before it faces you then you are free man like gannicus . hahaha but bro you are slave to all those things , tomorrow might be last .
but God controls those things, is he a slave to God?
........just curious on that!
Christianity EtcRe: Conversation Between A Muslim (“M”) And A Christian (“C”)-trinity by ghazzal: 9:44pm On Nov 09, 2012
frosbel: Jesus Christ is the Son of the living GOD , the Messiah and the Christ.

If you do not believe that he is the Son of God come in the flesh for the salvation of mankind, then you do not believe in my Jesus , rather you believe in another Jesus not related to the bible.
if you say that there is salvation throug Jesus, no objection from me cos he brought a message. But that he is God or son of God, why? I remember Jesus called more than 2 people sons of God in the bible... That i should ask how many sons God has?
Did Jesus himself say he wants to die for mans sin? If that is his mission, he would have made it known before his death but all we know of that are reports related by people.
The bible says Jesus has siblings, i believe they should have written books of the bible too but there is nothin about them, why? Could their view have been different? How about the first 12 followers of Christ.
Imagine Abubakar Shekau release a tape tomorrow morning claiming Jesus appeared to him, will you be quick to believe him let alone he now change the phase of Christianity. Did Jesus the early Christians use the new testament?
There is clearly a lot to be understood if we compare early Christians to todays-all to the credit of Paul.
I believe in Jesus and in his message. The most important information as given to isrealites. Did Jesus die, there is information that early Christians were divided about this too... Is this not enough reason for man to probe further?
IslamRe: Buying Meat Without Knowing If Allah's Name Is Called Before Slaughter by ghazzal: 2:10pm On Nov 09, 2012
i have heard a lot on this. but i prefer to kill if i want to eat. so i eat more of sea foods.

sometimes i fall out of line to eat this kind of meat, but im sure it is minimal. unlike praying before eating where i will eat anything.

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