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truthislight: Thats because the muslim God cannot defend itself like the christian God, so, it follows must take action

How did "Sodom & Gomorrah" a good reference Start, was it overnight or that people influence people with time and it became a norm. it is important we check ourselves else God`s wrath is much more severe. Not that VIOLENCE is good but let the target audience know the truth (of what is blasphemy) and that it is bad.... If we keep Quiet that God we fight for himselve, majority will be in the LOST FLOCK by then.............. "SODOM & GOMORRAH" in the making.......

some people are scared of God`s wrath and will distance themselves from it by all ACCEPTABLE, possible means. if some of them go beyond the acceptable limit, they also need to be checked.

MacDaddy01: Keep telling your children that homosexuals are evil. I laughed at one Nigerian who was fired from his job in london for being a homophobe and intolerant to gays in the workplace. He has no way to take care of his family.


Apparently, the man was raised as a christian in Nigeria, he was enjoying his homophobia and anti-gay stance when he was young. It came back to bite him in the azz when he was a fully grown man.


Another example is evolution. Keep lying to children that god created the world. When they grow up and are working for organisations that deal with science or drugs or human life and they start making anti-evolution comments only to be ridiculed and maybe fired for ignorance, you peeps will learn

what if God really is the "First Cause" responsible for "singularity", What is there actually is a Supernatural Master Architect, what if there actually is One responsible for the begining of the Universe. What if all the above is very true and our knowledge is just not enough to comprehend it all? What if there is truely just 1 life that will end in Hell or Heaven, .........

what is true islam? i believe if the prophet were alive, he will condemn this division. being a muslim is enough definition. we submit to Allahs will only and Muhammed(saw) was an example of such submission. may Allah grant us supreme success

glorified is most high God above all associated with him. i now understand why rasullullah(saw) several times make it known that he is scared of his ummah after his death. so you mean within 6 months after he died, the ummah was divided despite how much he stressed unity of muslims. may peace and blessings of most high God be upon him.
quran says...... each group rejoices thinking his own group is the best ...but Allah alone knows what is best. may Allah guide us all and make us better muslims.

i will assume no one is offended my friend. we have just 1life. one life only so it is important we help ourselves.
i just saw a new thread-"what if all we know is a lie". its good we know there is God. its also our duty to search and allign ourselves with what God wants.
you are welcome. i gained from the thread and i hope you gained too.
may God in his mercy guide us all to the truth and guard us by it.... peace

wiegraf: Is everything inside the koran the unquestionable and perfect word of god?

You know you can ignore me if you wish, yes?

yes it is. undiluted word of God.

wiegraf: Most of that post is way off, this bit I just choose to highlight. Does this include the hadiths?

no. the Quran. for the hadith, it is not news that there are now fabricated hadiths so the litmus test is that it must conform with teachings of the Quran else its autenticity is void.

Informative(may God forgive us for our errors in ignorance). but if i may ask, what is the shia position on other caliphs: Abubakr, Umar, Uthman that were before Ali

wiegraf: Does the koran say what I'll have for lunch?

i dont think any Muslim will tell you its in Volumes cos its just 1 book. Its a Book that informs of what God wants of man, confirming what was revealed before it and explaing the reward for obedience and disobedience.
Scientific findings being fortold in it is to convince man of its authenticity, ofcourse to convince those sincere in thought.
Its like God created man on earth and gave a manual with it. That Manual is the Quran sent in truth and with Truth. Use it as instructed and be successful.

Evil Brain: ^^^^ Exactly like I said. The koranic passages that make patently absurd claims get excused as "not literal". Meanwhile you try to convince yourself that a passage with a vague mention of smoke is a literal reference to the big b@ng theory. Talk about intellectual dishonesty! And then you played that lame "you need to study Arabian literature and history to understand the koran" card. A pathetic rationale used by every half-baked religion in the world to cover up their contradictions and inconsistencies. You might have well have said that I needed the holy spirit to guide me while reading it like the born-agains do.

Look, I get it. You are a muslim. You were born into it. You've been indoctrinated with Islamic propaganda all your life. I understand how hard it is to accept that the religion you have invested so many of your years in is a bunch of gibberish. I realize that you have to defend your religion to minimize the cognitive dissonance.

I really feel bad for you. I just hope that you one day escape from the mental cage you're trapped in.

Cheers.

there was a movie "sunset on the beach" how do you interprete that or sunset in san diego means ...?. When you try to interprete wrongly to suit urself , its your business. Its not strange as people like you are also recorded in the Quran..... Great Book.
For the Bigbang and the mention of smoke, i read and made the assumption. never heard from anyone before. your mention of singularity: this is one of several theories because the universe keeps expanding (this is also mentioned in Quran) using a kind of reverse thinking, science claims it must have started as a small particle. what we need now is what is the "Bigbang" - that the Universe may well have begun with a violent, almighty rush of energy at about 10 billion degree Celcius. could this result in smoke?

frosbel: And just exactly how does you allah spread ISLAM, I will tell you how :

1. Deception

2. Violence


Not sure what kind of god this one is, but I want absolutely nothing to do with him.

You maay choose not to have anything to do with the most high God, its your business. but for you to make claims you dont have proof for, that is blasphemy

Area_boy: two things:

1) Can you please read your Quran and predict the next break through in science?
2) your second part is the watch makers idea (Since there is seemingly design then there must be a creator), Very wrong view when you consider that the complexity of our universe is only a function of our limited understanding. Einstein's theory of general relativity proves this easily.

only God knows what that will be as mans knowledge is limited. Someone somewhere knows it all. That is God(all knowing) so for the next breakthrough in science, i dont know but when it is discovered, we will know if Quran refers to it long ago or not. When the Quran says:.... "by the universe as it expands..." who knew that the universe was expanding then until recently. These are signs for men if they but know.
for your second point, you mean there can be a design without a creator, how do you know that? whats your prove. From all that man knows, if there is a design, there must be a creator so for you to say that there can be a design without a creator, you must have seen something you belief in or you just choose now to believe what everyone believes - wierd, To believe something without reason, that is not even close to science if you know what science is all about. Or you give a reason why you dont believe there is a creator to the Design-"universe"

Evil Brain: Abeg don't give me that "I'm a muslim because it's the most sensible religion" cràp. You're a muslim because your parents indoctrinated you as a child. That is the one and only reason.

You didn't sit down and study all the world's religions and pick the one you thought was best. You didn't read the bible and Bhagavad Gita before concluding that the Koran was better. And you certainly didn't study the latest scientific knowledge of the physical world to see which religion best tallied with it (if you had, you wouldn't have been so ignorant of the Big Bàng theory)

You are a muslim because your family members hammered it into your head when you were a young and impressionable child. If you want to display some intellectual honesty, admitting this would be a good place to start.

After that, maybe you can practice not using circular reasoning all the time. "The Koran is the bestest holy book in the world. Here are some koranic verses that prove it."

@ *** Brain. I deally, its not islamic to call evil Brain. but my Question is why are you a Christian: Dont tell me that it is because Jeses died for your sins cos thats just in the Bible. but if thats your reason, then tell me why you must believe in the Bible.

Bélla3: dat verse is a parable of a rich ruler. Read from verse 11

no one is suporting violence but to be objective, which will you prefer if you must pick 1: God to punish man on earth by himself(i.e:Noah, Lut,Egypt ...case) of for him to us righteous men for the punishment. note that 1 is general while the other is selective. If it is confirmed that God does what he wills, which is preferable?

fortyfeet: Leave it for us like that.
You never here before say monkey no fine but him mama like am. Here, its not what you like but what we like. So, if you are a Mathematics teacher, you'll kill you student(s) if in a test he writes 25% of 750 is 131 and not 187.5

If i own my school, i may decide to expel such student. if he still does not know after many attempts........ must be a dull guy

polokor60: stop beating around the bush and answer my question.another question for you,who were the wise men from the (middle)east that came to pay tribute to JESUS CHRIST when he was delivered in the manger?can mohamed fast for forty days and forty night without eating earthy food??

who gave you this story or how many years after jesus(may God be pleased with him) die was the person born. also, why did the writer say Jesus(PBUH)fasted for 40days? Why would a God fast........!!!

tunspider: Being a Christian is the work of the Holy spirit, many call themselves christians but are they practicing it? (No). The disciples were called christians due to their acts in antioch. Read ur Bible.

OH! but you dont believe some people call themselves muslims but do otherwise? see level of hypocrisy. "Muslim" is an arabic word... "one who submits totally to God`s will" what is your sincere notion of such persons attitude?

“I tell you the truth: it is beneficial for you that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Redeemer of the accursed will not come to you, but if I depart I shall send HIM to you. And when HE comes, HE will correct the world concerning sin and concerning righteousness and concerning judgment. Concerning sin, because they do not trust me, Concerning righteousness, because I will go to my Father's presence and you will not see me again (NO ENOUGH TIME), Concerning judgment, because The Prince of this world is judged (UNJUSTLY (NOW SHARIA)). I have much to say to you, but you are not able to grasp it now, But when HE,---------------, is come, HE will guide you into all truth (AUTHENTIC HADITH): for HE shall not speak of HIMSELF; but whatsoever HE shall hear, that shall HE speak(QURAN): and HE will show you things to come(SCIENCE).
And HE shall glorify me, because HE will tell you what I say. Everything the Father says is also what I say. That is why I said, 'He will take what I say and tell it to you (AS IN QURAN-POSSIBLE REASON FOR HIS MENTION IN THE QURAN)

PLS FILL THE GAP ABOVE: USE OF "HE" REPEATEDLY REFERS TO WHAT AND IS IT JUST A COINCIDENT: SPIRIT, MAN, WOMAN.

IN ENGLISG, "IT" IS WHAT IS USED FOR A SPIRIT I BELIEVE?.......... WHAT ELSE DO MAN WANT. ID RATHER YOU TRY CONFIRM IF MUHAMMED SATISFIES THE ABOVE MENTIONED BY JESUS INSTEAD OF BLASPHEMING LIKE PEOPLE OF THE PAST. MAY GOD GUIDE US ARIGHT AND OPEN OUR HEARTH TO THE TRUTH.

nextpart: NO PROVOCATION AT ALL

I am not provoked for being banned from muslim section. I know the Devil will not be happy with his secrets being exposed.

Unfortunately, what should have been an eye-opener for you is seen as criticising ur religion. O ma se o. (it is a pity). What do I gain from criticism? To get an award? It is my prayer that God in His mercy will open ur spiritual eyes.

I will not wish you death as you say I should go and die on transformer. I do not have the spirit of Islam, I have the Spirit of Christ.

As for the authenticity of the Bible, have you not read:

Sura 2:62 that says Christians shall have reward with their Lord? If the Bible is not authentic why did the Quran say Christians will have reward?

I know there are other verses of the Quran that state otherwise and that is one of the confusions brought by Islam because you cannot be saying ''yes and no'' at the same time. There are so many ''yes and no'' in the Quran which I will post later, not for criticism but to expose the truth. No matter how clever the Devil is, he is not ominiscience, he is bound to make mistakes.

I will also expose in my post later why the muslims think the Bible has been tampered with.

@nextpart. Sounds like you now believe in the Quran......thats Great

@CNN ADMITS IRAN'S CAPABILITY...MUST SEE. KEEP IN MIND THAT IRAN IS THE ONLY NATION BESIDES THE SUPER POWERS OF THE WORLD THAT CONTROLS ITS FUTURE AND DOESN'T TAKE ORDERS FROM ANYBODY.

sayit_out1: I sometimes wonder were these countries get their own inspirations to build such a thing.

...they are all up to something negative otherwise why would 1 spend quality time and resource on these?

How would these help humanity?

pls, what good is a state that cannot protect its boundaries. We may need to wake up too

What force is keeping the heavens from collapsing on the earth?

ifeness: Do you have a proof that this most high God exist? A proof not based on the bible please!

would you believe me if a said a neighbor died overnight, and in the autopsy, nothin was found? this is common of course. now my question is why did the man die?, what killed him. why does he have to die?

i still have not got an answer to how sperm can become clot of blood, then human.

there are so many miracles happening around without explanation. who makes it happen since science does not believe in miracle. the answer is God. he only says Be-and it will become

https://www.nairaland.com/1055206/man-remove-wifes-eye-knife
how will christianity judge the above. It is obvious that Islam is a complete way of Life. It has solution to several of Human problems. Gods own declared Religion.

Jettage: Again that is your minds deception, Islam learn most of its way from Roman Catholic at the time when Rome conquered the world, Constantine was never a Christian until he claimed to have seen a Cross before he went to the Battle, so You see Christianity has been around before Constantine and it was centered around Jesus Christ the Man who was Rejected by the world and Islam. (Though He is Lord, Creator Judge of the whole earth and even the Judge of Mohammad as all men) Nothing was learned by Christian from Constantine, In fact Rome Persecuted the Christians as done by Islam today, The percecution eased during Constantine and that was the undoing of Today's Christian, The Devil brought Politics into it and Rome started Paying Church officials under Constantine, That however does not undermine the power of Christ. Roman Catholics had backsliden under successive leadership of the Popes and had gone into Idolary before Martin Luther started canvasiing for Justification by grace "Sola Christo, Sola Fide, Sola Gracious" Moharmad only keyed into the error of Rome to found his Religion and was well deceived with several contradiction contained in the Qouran. You can at least see the similarity in Roman Catholics Praying with the beads and Islam also counting beads. My Problem with Muslims is that they do not read. They are to violent to accept criticism, For so long they kept the qouran away from the public because of the many erroneous and demonic orders of contradiction. Now Tell me, why a religion of Peace is violent against the Prince of Peace and all his follower. TheY HAVE DECIDED to by mere words insist that Islam brought peace while all the atrocities in the world, even the Killing of an Ambassador as well as the bombing of world trade center were committed by real Muslims who believed in the Jihardist instruction of the Pedophilic Moharmad known for wars,murders until he was killed by a Mutton Poison from one of the Jewish women whose husband he killed. Look at the Life of Jesus. You will find no Fault in Him. He is GOD and that angers Muslims, he came in human body to pay the Price that man cannot ever pay. MUSLIMS PLEASE READ. i HAVE A COPY OF YOUR QURAN, and i can tell you for free, it is nothing but "GAS" gospel according to SATAN

Is there a word for those who try to convince ignorant people who do not want to believe they are ignorant cos i want to stop being one. I believe most christians are illiterate when it comes to religion. what have you seen in the Quran that makes it GAS? another blaspheme same as those who crucify Christ. I pity your soul

erico2k2: TO ALL CHRISTIANS AND MOSLEM S IN THE HOUSE I WANT YOU TO TELL ME ONE THING WAS HAS RELIGION DONE FOR THE WORLD CERTAINLY NOT PEACE

Islam is for peace. that is why it has Sahria-to enforce checks on excesses of man. this is meant to promote peace. The only religion that understands mans excesses and gives a solution to stabilise a society. The other says you have grace. kill/steal/main/plaspheme..... you have grace to fall back on...SMH.
We say Sharia is bad, but establish a court of LAW, we ratify law( what hypocrisy?).. until you return to the fundamental laws of Moses(same as Islam as the ways of the Lord will never change, i doubt if we will have peace. it is obvious) Is America at Peace? go ask the inhabitants at least it does not have religious crises in it.

only Islam can claim it is for PEACE and to have taken measures to sustain PEACE.

if its true that christianity does not harbour those who lie and all that lie will go to hell, then i wonder about those who say what they know not about muhammed. what is their reference, how do they know who he was? its not always about what you (are made to)think but history. A christian once told me...had muslims been like muhammed, the world would be a better place but when we discuss religion, he then said - Muhammed is a bad person - then i ask myself, who are they decieving......."... they will soon come to know, verily, they will soon come to know. do they think they have knowledge of the unknown ..." they decieve their own soul but they know not.
when you speculate that Islam is violent and Muslims have come to prove that it is not, what is expected for someone in his right senses to do? verify! verify! verify! by yourselve. but for the christians, its the opposite. they dont care, they simply see it as a competition-Islam must go down. but you what - It is God`d declared religion. the only religion declared in a religious book. nothin will happen to it...... if you dont like it, SORRY.

Nimakor: The problem is they keep tellin us what Islam should be and not what it has become. Aren't we suppose to be dealing with reality? I rest my case.

or you mean: they keep telling you who Muslims should be (seen as) and not what they have been seen to be. Islam remains same.

a report of someone is......."if i had known "muslims" before i got to know islam, i may not become a muslim" that why i say many claim to be muslim but are not fit to be. Muslims have standard of relation in all spheres of life that promote peace. Many fall below this standards and dont care: are they muslims? these are references people use to generalise and judge Islam. I have a Born-Again Christian who has refered to another christian as not being a christian. The Guy who killed Children in Oslo is what.

I think it is just a competition war the MUslims are not conscious of: LOUD THEIR WEEKNESS AND SILENCE THEIR STRENGHTS BUT
LOUD YOUR OUN STRENGHT AND SILENCE YOUR WEEKNESS........... there have been plots from the begining of Human life..... "...and they Plotted and planned, and most high God too planned, and the best of planners is most high God"

proof that edisson existed without using science. LMAO

tpia@:
Funny thread.

This is a good thread. Islam is all about sincerity and it is just what is being done. Just be very careful cos some will want to exploit this good intended thread. my advise is make a thorough screening for anyone showing interest. there must be a true test of comitment both for ISlam and such relationship. God is our guide

First time in "Islam for MUslims" section. this is lovely. May God reward you guys.
pls is there a good montessori school around ijaiye/meiran axis. north of Lagos