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Christianity EtcRe: When God Does Not Answer Your Prayers by globexl: 5:54pm On Sep 16, 2011
These ember months, as happens every year,thousands of people now living, rightous and unrightous, are going to lose their lives in road accidents ,irrespective how prayerful or devout they may be.
If prayer cannot even protect our lives, then of what value could it possibly be? I guess the answer would be "god knows best or god works in mysterious ways". right?
If so, is prayer therefore not superflous?
Quoting scriptures out of context to surpport our aspirations and and calm our fears is comforting to the faithful. I guess thats why its called faith.
But anyone can equally quote scriptures to support almost any viewpoint.
Christianity EtcRe: When God Does Not Answer Your Prayers by globexl: 5:22pm On Sep 16, 2011
sleekman:
I really don't ask anymore because he said he'll provide all my needs. So I just thank him and worship. Trust me it's stress-free and you sleep like a baby because uve put all your worries and cares on him.
makes more sense
Christianity EtcRe: When God Does Not Answer Your Prayers by globexl: 4:58pm On Sep 16, 2011
Take a look at your neighborhood.
From Ikeja Bus stop via Orishe str. to Allen Junction, iI have counted more than 50 churches or prayer houses each blasting their deafening prayers day in day out. The same is true in every neghborhood throughout Nigeria for the past 2 decades or so. Yet, In the same vein, we see corresponding explosion in poverty, disease and every social vice. As I hinted before, are these prayers going to the wrong number or is no one home to take the calls?

I must say also that prayer is quite different from communion. Communion is usually an attempt to atune onoself to god's presence or frequency(so to speak). No matter how many times you think you may have had this , the occurence is  very rare and is usually a once-in- life time event. It is called an epiphany and one does not have to have a religious belief to have this experiance. Although it is rare, it is spiritualy healthy just attempting to reach communion.
Christianity EtcRe: When God Does Not Answer Your Prayers by globexl: 4:38pm On Sep 16, 2011
nuclearboy:
@globexl:

In prayer, there is "worship", there is "praise", there is "thanksgiving" but most of all, there is "communion\communication". Repeated communication particularly conforms you to your "partner"n in this case God!

Closeness to, and understanding of HIS desires has the tendency to put the sensible maturing person on a path that ensures the laws of cause & effect work for them. I could plant yams, yet pray to harvest oranges but I doubt that prayer would be answered. As a mature (and with understanding) farmer, my thrust would NOT be prayer but practices that will help give me the best yam yield. Fertilisation, weeding, watering, larger heaps so the yams have more space to grow etc. These are equivalent to praise, worship, thanksgiving!

Truth is most of the battle-prayers (kill my enemies, I want to eat my cake and have it etc) are baby Christians (if Christians at all).

So you are right that established laws guide existence! YET God retains Sovereignty and at times, does change the natural order
Sorry, I dont buy that argument that god will change the natural order of things to accomodate our mortal desires. It would contradict his laws and cause chaos. By what formul do we get him to change things in our favour?
It has been demostated in our lifetime that nations that organize their societies well, enjoy material properity,better health, greater longevity, less crime and therefore add more value in their lives not because of they are more prayerful or closer to god but because they emply the same faculties of their minds to take responsiblities for their lives.
Christianity EtcRe: When God Does Not Answer Your Prayers by globexl: 4:27pm On Sep 16, 2011
Good point,but dont be concerned about what I believe(the usual weakness of religiuos people). I raised some posers for consideration and debate regarding the efficacy or redundancy of prayer. Religious people have many different beliefas that contradict one another, and prayer is one of them. Example. Two soccer teams, Nigeria(a prayerful nation) and China(a non prayerful nation) are playing for the world cup. the Nigeria team and all their fans pray and fast all week for victory. At the end what will decide the outcome of the match?
Christianity EtcRe: When God Does Not Answer Your Prayers by globexl: 4:06pm On Sep 16, 2011
Have you all ever considered the fact that when you are praying, you are either dialing the wrong number ,or ,that no one is home? It sounds funny and quite dificult for a religious mind to consider.

Have you ever considered that the creator of the universe is perhaps impersonal ,and that all things happen as a result of the ceaseless interactions of his established laws of CAUSE AND EFFECT? It certainly makes more sense and puts a lot mysteries to rest.
For example, It was reported a few days ago that Nigeria has the second highest child and maternal mortlity rate in the world.
How much megatons of prayer power can change this situation?  Nations that have a good health care delivery system have very low infant and maternal mortality rates. Simple Cause and effect.
Considering that Nigerians are very prayerful,would you consider this a situaton where god is not answering prayers or a simple case of cause and effect?.

Prayer, by its very nature is a selfish act since its all about asking and expecting to recieve. I seriously doubt that the laws of the universe can bend to accomodate our selfish desires and needs. Just imagine god bending to accomodate the prayers of 150m souls in nigeria everyday. Since our needs are all interconnected, just think of the ensuing choas that would reverberate throughout the entire universe .  
Have you considered that God's love is only concerned about the health and purity of your immortal soul(the real you) and not concerned about your material comfort and worldly travails? If god has given us all the faculties to make sense of, adapt and explore his creation, why do we have a need to run to daddy ten times a day asking for this and for that?. Would you be proud of your children if they could not make good use of the legacies you left for them but are constantly hounding you every minute for this help and for that help?
Prayer and this idea of leaving everything to god is a cowardly  and selfish act  and a negation of self-responsibility.
For good or for bad, man is the master of his destiny here on earth.This is true for individuals as well as for Nations.
If we consider cause and effect as the universal and dominant order of creation, then everything makes sense. It is then we can engage our god-given minds to positively mould our lives, our communities and our nation. We then see our fears and obstacles as bitter pills that we must ingest for our ultimate growth towards perfection.
Christianity EtcRe: The Improbability Of God by globexl: 3:17am On Sep 16, 2011
HISchild:
"Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain." - 1 Corinthians 3:18-20

"Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:" -1 Corinthians 2:6

"For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe." - 1 Corinthians 1:19-21

So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of GOD.” - Rom 10:17

"The Lord reigns"!
The scriptures you are quoting were written by sone-age tent dwellers who did not know what an atom was , niehter did they know that germs were the causes of disease. God was their answer to every thing they did not understand.
I find it very hypocritical for people to  consume products of scientific knowledge such as computers nd cell phones, and then at the same time mentally reject scientific ideas.
The proof is in the pudding. Science proves its value. And religion? History is our witness.
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Rogue Trader Cost UBS $2Billion Dollars? Ghana Outdoes Nigeria by globexl: 12:55am On Sep 16, 2011
I'm sure he did not steal the company's money. He just made some bad trades. That does not make him a criminal nor is it a disgraceful for the nation of Ghana.
BusinessRe: Ghanaian Rogue Trader Cost UBS $2Billion Dollars? Ghana Outdoes Nigeria by globexl: 12:53am On Sep 16, 2011
You can now clap for yourself and be proud to be a Nigerian again. Right?
Working for a bluechip firm as a trader and then runing huge losses on their behalf is quite different from doing fraud as full time occupation.
Dont be too quick to congratulate your self that a Ghananian has finally outdone you as a Nigerian. I am sure he was a star at the firm before he made a series of bad trades, concealed them, and made more(bad) trades in attempt to recoup the losses. That is how it happens. Like someone pointed out, failure is bastard indeed.
Christianity EtcRe: Soyinka: Posers For An Atheist At 77 by globexl: 8:57pm On Sep 15, 2011
MyJoe:
@globexl
I think your post highlights the matter with atheism. No, I'm afraid scientific enquiries will not reveal God because he/she/it will not show up in any satellite pictures, and will certainly not stop over at your place for dinner tonight. Even if he/she/it did any of the above where are the accepted precedents that might cause a recognition and force a consensus? Only deep personal observation and thinking might help the atheist, not spending time within the sterile confines of a laboratory.

By the way, we know how things work, the issue is the cause. And there is certainly no agreement that that cannot be known. When you consider the matter intellectually, nobody has seen or touched God. But it doesn't end there.
Hey,I am in total agreement with you. I hv said it before, it is not everything that can be observed in a lab. The poster befor eyou said it well, somethings are subjective and they should be treated as such. Theories emanating from subjective experiences should not be trusted.Therefore, religious faith should no business outside the sacred precints of ones mind or heart, as the case may be.
Christianity EtcRe: When God Does Not Answer Your Prayers by globexl: 8:01pm On Sep 15, 2011
Its always a win-win situation for god. If we get the things we pray fro we thank him, if we dont get it, we justify his refusal and still thank him.
A fatal accident occurs, five people die and one survives. The survivor and is family sing praises to god for his survival. The family of the dead weep, mourn, blame the devil , say only god knows best and then thanks god for all his mercies.
If at the end, god will do his will(which may not always be at our advantage), then what is the relevance of prayer?
Let thy will be done should be the only valid prayer.
Christianity EtcRe: Soyinka: Posers For An Atheist At 77 by globexl: 7:26pm On Sep 15, 2011
I guess he means Judeo-chritian athiesm.
Christianity EtcRe: Was Abraham An Arab Or A Jew? by globexl: 7:22pm On Sep 15, 2011
Arabs and Jews are from the same family tree. They are both both called the semitic people (Semites) being descendants of Shem.
Christianity EtcRe: Soyinka: Posers For An Atheist At 77 by globexl: 7:09pm On Sep 15, 2011
@deep sight.
The causative factor or agent that you refer is a plausible idea that can be comtemplated even by people with athiestic viewpoints. It is an idea that has kept philosophers and the people of science busy and will continued to keep them busy for quite a while.
Hower, such concepts belong in realms of astro-physics and deep philosophy . Most of the debates and arguments on this forum center on the judeo-christian concepts of divinity.Almost all theists that I encounter are mainly interested in th validation of the lores that are the foundation and pillars of their faith and nothing more.
The problem is not the "HOW. If we can all agree that we dont know the "How", then there is no issue worth debating. Scientific enquiry is mainly concerned with the "how" of any phenomena.But when theists claim that they know "how" and when and who, but then offer fairy tales as support,rationality has to overule.
In summary, I beleive the "cause" is an abtract intuitive idea that is and has been a subject of scientic investigation. It should never form the basis for any kind of doctrine.

There are no poor reasons for adopting an athiestic viewpoint. All you need is good normal healthy skeptism. All you need is doubt. There dozens of reasons for choosing an ahtiestic viewpoint. I believe prof. Soyinka just offered one, albeit the simplest one that came to his mind at that particular time. If probed further, am quite sure he would given a dozen more.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor And Pastor Mrs Billboard All Over. by globexl: 6:10pm On Sep 15, 2011
pulpit pimps
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor And Pastor Mrs Billboard All Over. by globexl: 6:08pm On Sep 15, 2011
Big thanks to PULPIT PIMS and their BLING BLING Theology, the MUMUFICATION of the primitive tribes of the Niger is complete. Nigerians have been gradually turned into stone-age zombies lost in the confusion of the 21st century life.
PhonesRe: How True Is It That 09141 Is A Killer Number? by globexl: 1:11pm On Sep 15, 2011
With this mass panic, there is no better way to seperate the wheat from the chaf. If YOU believe this crap or have entertained any fear about it, then you surely know where you belong , irrespective of your age, education or experience. If you among those who believe in this crap, You deserve to be ruled and manipulated.
Stone-age minds in a 21st century body. What a tragedy
PhonesRe: How True Is It That 09141 Is A Killer Number? by globexl: 1:04pm On Sep 15, 2011
This country should be called MORONICA or MUMULAND. HaHa Ha. BIG THANKS TO PENTECOTALISM, THE MUMUFICATION OF THE PRIMITIVE TRIBES OF NIGERIA IS ALMOST COMPLETE.
HA HA HAHAH HA.
Jokes EtcRe: Killer Recharge Card by globexl: 12:55pm On Sep 15, 2011
Its time we changed the name Nigeria to MORONICA or MUMULAND
Christianity EtcRe: Soyinka: Posers For An Atheist At 77 by globexl: 3:13am On Sep 15, 2011
kalokalo:
[b]Knowledge puff up!! [/b]Soyinka will learn on the day he dies that he was foolish for trusting in his own wisdom. He enjoys the adoration and accolades of men in this life forgetting that the way that seems right to him now will lead him down to the pit of eternal torment and regret.

He and others who disavow God will learn too late that God always confound the "wise" by using the foolish things of this world. God's free gift of salvation from a cross sounds like foolishness to proud men who are on the path to perdition unless they repent before they die. Even devils believe in God with fear and trembling!

Asuming that you are right and god does exist, Do you honestly think your god will punish a man of great accomplishment like Soyinka simply because he refused to believe in the silly stories told by ancient stone age men? Don't you think your god would grant Soyinka some credit based on his conduct here on earth rather than whatever nonsense he may or may not have believed? If god gave us a brain, dont we have an obligation to use it to ask questions and investigate? Would not be proud of the courage of men like Soyinka who are not afraid to show skeptism and curiosity?
And what does being an athiest have to do with being evil? If someone says they dont want to smoke your weed or your opium with you, does that make the person evil? You have just demonstrated why blind faith is evil. I wonder if your god will be proud of you.
Intolerance in this life in exchange for paradise in the next life. HUH? lucky you.
Pls answer these questions for me.
PhonesRe: What's The Fuss About Killing Phone Calls? by globexl: 2:47am On Sep 15, 2011
OMG!
I am so embarrased.
So it is true that Nigeria is populated with stone age m.orons. No wonder these half-witted pastors are smiling to the bank everyday. All they have to do is scare you a little and you surrender your money.If a telephone ring and number can scare you of death, then I wonder of what being alive life means to you.
It means that I can conquer and enslave all of you by simply threatening to call you with my death number. HA HA hA ha. What a laugh. Stone age peole living in the 21st century. What a mixup.
Christianity EtcRe: Soyinka: Posers For An Atheist At 77 by globexl: 7:33pm On Sep 14, 2011
ayox2003:
@Globexyl, JayOriginal and Mazaje. I hope u guys are able to answer these questions

If humans evolved from chimpanzees, why are chimpanzees still around?

The Big slam Theory proposes that everything in the Universe started from something called singularity which is smaller than an atom. How can you stuff everything in the universe in that? It's hard enough to stuff four suitcases in the trunk of your car!

If the earth really revolves around the sun, then why when we look at the sun we can see it plainly revolving around the earth? (And if the earth was moving around the sun, wouldn't we all fly off into space?)

If women were not created from Adam's rib, why is it that men have one fewer rib than women?

How do scientists know stars are "millions of light years away"? Have they been there and back? Do they have a tape measure that stretchs that long?

Scientists say all our genetic information is coded on DNA. But DNA is an acid! How can you write information in acid? You can write information on a hard drive, but not a liquid!

People have been wearing clothes for thousands of years. Why haven't our bodies evolved natural clothes that come out of our skin then?

If there really are millions and millions of species, then how could have Adam named them all? Obviously, there's not that many species then! (Gen 2:18-22)

If our brains are just a mishmash of biochemistry, how come chemicals like gasoline or bug spray can't think?

Einstein said that if you approach the speed of light, time slows down. Once you hit the speed of light, time stops. If that is so, how come light can travel from point A to point B if time is stopped for light?

Did you know that the Bible has been the number one bestseller almost every single year since the 1436 invention of the Gutenberg printing press?

If God does not exist, then from where comes humanity's universal moral sense?

If man is nothing but the random arrangement of molecules, what motivates you to care and to live honorably in the world?

Can you explain how personality could have ever evolved from the impersonal, or how order could have ever resulted from chaos?
How can something as small as a brain understand extremely complicated aspects of the universe, even though it is (supposedly) just a bunch of chemical reactions and electrical signals? But at the same time, this brain can’t create another brain like itself, so how can nature, that has no brain, create a brain?

Everyone knows Mount Rushmore was the result of intelligent design. Do you think the human body is the result of intelligent design?

When you look at a lot of creatures such as zebras, turtles, butterflies, bees, lady bugs, leopards, etc., you will notice amazing color patterns designed into them. Who came up with those? Does nature have a “taste” in colors , and does it know which colors go together nicely?

How do you account for the origin of life considering the irreducible complexity of its essential components?

Is it possible that your unbelief in God is actually an unwillingness to submit to Him?

Does your present worldview provide you with an adequate sense of meaning and purpose?

How do you explain the radically changed lives of so many Christian believers down through history?

Are you aware that every alleged Bible contradiction has been answered in an intelligible and credible manner?

What do you say about the hundreds of scholarly books that carefully document the veracity and reliability of the Bible?

Why and how has the Bible survived and even flourished in spite of centuries of worldwide attempts to destroy and ban its message?

Have you ever considered the fact that Christianity is the only religion whose leader is said to have risen from the dead?

How do you explain the empty tomb of Jesus in light of all the evidence that has now proven essentially irrefutable for twenty centuries?


If every effect has a cause, then what or who caused the universe?

How do you explain the thousands of people who have experienced heaven or hell and have come back to tell us about it?

How do you explain the countless people who have received miracles from God?

Is there any evidence that would satisfy you and persuade you to become a believer, or are you just going to believe what you WANT to believe?


I think I should make this a new post.
How can you write DNA on an acid?. Please mr., it is obvious that you did not take any science class whatsoever. Pls stop disgracing yourself in this forum. Go and have take up thse issues with your primary school teacher.
Christianity EtcRe: Soyinka: Posers For An Atheist At 77 by globexl: 7:27pm On Sep 14, 2011
OMG! huh
unbelievable! The things I witness on this forum. Wat? someone still believes that the sun moves around the earth? .Where have you been over the past 500yrs?
Prof. Soyinka himself once remarked that there was a dearth of intelligence inour land. More correctly, its an epidemic of foolishness.
This guy needs to go back to primary one and start allover again.
There is no point trying to educate him on this forum that earth is a sphere moving around the sun.
Na wa o.
Christianity EtcRe: Soyinka: Posers For An Atheist At 77 by globexl: 5:13pm On Sep 14, 2011
OOPS! Silly me. Sorry O. You are way over my head. How could I have imagined trying to engage the mouthpiece of god to any type of sensible debate?. Godmouth, If god tells you things, then my apologies.
Since you cannot record ur encounters, thats ok. But can you please ask him to instruct you of how to permanently rid us of malaria. Millions of infants die every years from this ailment. For someone that speaks with god, that is the least you can do for humanity. ABI? or does he only instruct you on how to remit the money you collect on His behalf?
Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel Of John by globexl: 3:39pm On Sep 14, 2011
@ansel
You are very knowledgeable and very articulate in your presentation. Please try to publish a book on this subject. Our people have nothing to elevate their minds.

frosbel:
whats all this gibberish about !!!!
As expected.You are well known. We know that you are allergic to any sort of uplifting knowledge. This is way above your little foggy hatred-filled brain.POOR YOU.
Christianity EtcRe: Soyinka: Posers For An Atheist At 77 by globexl: 3:22pm On Sep 14, 2011
mazaje:
The writer of this article is very DULL. . . . .By the way man has scientifically studied the formation of mountains, valleys, oceans and seas and has provided very credible explanations for their formation without the need for any God. . . .No God's name or signature is to be seen on any mountain, river or ocean. . .People out of reasons best known to them came up with the God idea and creation. . .

Having no explanation for an event means nothing more than we don't know. That's it: we don't know yet. It is ignorant to conclude that god did it. There was a time we couldn't explain anything about the stars. When men were ignorant and didn't know much about biology they ostracized their menstruating women and called them unclean because of lack of basic knowledge of how the female reproductive system works. . . .Another example is assuming nobody really understands gravity. If I tell you that it exists because there are invisible vacuum demons hidden in the earth that cannot be experienced by mere humans, the fact that you cannot disprove that theory, nor replace it with a better one, doesn't make it right. It makes it highly speculative at best, and more likely, just a convenient fiction. The writer of the article can believe whatever he/she wants and I hope that it works for him/her. However, trying to zing people like Wole Soyinka with a God idea that is completely man made may be self-satisfying for the writer, but it isn't very logical at all.
You took the words right out of my mouth. Can they get any dumber?
@Goldmouth: I am glad to hear you say that god speaks to you regularly, but can you pls acknowledge that god is therefore in your head? that is all people like Soyinka have been saying all along. Surely God exists, but in your head.If u disagree, then can you pls tape-record your next encounter with him. pls.
 Theists always make the same lame old argument over and over again, that for this or that to exist, someone(god) must have created it because something cannot come into existence on its own. Fine argument indeed. But when you aske them to explain or even theorize about  the origin of god, you either get a deafening silence or they tell u that god created himself(out of nothing), They very same impossiblity they point at when addressing the theory of evolution . The universe could not have sprang up  and evolved but god certainly sprang up, evolved and created the universe?.
Then he has a son but no wife or mate. Convoluted logic.
He creates an imperfect world and then manipulates and judges and punishes his creation for the imperfections that he created.
Professor Soyinka was right when he asked"where is  man's responsibility if we are maniputaled by an omnipotent deity"?

@goldmouth and the original poster: Since you have god  andare filled with christ and all the good stuff that comes with it,what is your obsession with non-believers like Soyinka and athiests? i have asked this questons on this forum several times and am going to ask it again.
1. Are theists by the very nature of their beliefs insecure and need athiests to constantly validate their faith?
2. Does god need people more than people need him?
3. Are there safety in numbers?
PoliticsRe: Ex-head Of State Linked To UN House Bombing by globexl: 2:16pm On Sep 14, 2011
This another useless innuendo contructed with poor english and written for simple-minded folks. Whatever the (original) poster was trying to insinuate, he did a very lousy job of it.

I do sympathise with Nigerians though,because when there is an information vacuum, people tend to fill in the gaps with wild specualtions and innuendos. Indeed we deserve to have more facts on the Boko haram manace and all other security threats in the country.For example, why have the FG not posted the picture of the wanted UN bombing ring leader on all national Dailies? Why has the FG not posted a N10m reward for information that would lead to the arrest of these people?
EducationRe: Indians Pledge To Build World-class Hospitals In Nigeria by globexl: 3:05am On Sep 14, 2011
About 30yrs ago, India invested heavily in the education of their people. Today Indiai has a surplus of doctors, engineers, computer programers and scientific researchers and is exporting  their suplus pools of well edicated talents to other nations. Since our own brains are filled with so much ethnic and religious junk, we have no choice than to let those who can think properly to come and provide the services that we so desperately need. Nigeria is a huge market for health services. We should be grateful to the Indians for recognizing this need since Nigerian elites just fee sooo cool stashing their wealth abroad rather than investing in their own country.
For those of you that say you dont trust Indians, Who would you rather trust? Could it be because they are not white? our brains have been programed to trust only those that are white.
I gladly welcome the Indians. As our former third world peers, We have soooo much to learn from them if and when our  brains are eventually detoxicated from all the garbage that cloggs it.
We all need good health services, sooner or later.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jehovah A Former Pagan Deity? by globexl: 5:47am On Sep 13, 2011
During the early years of christianity and throughout the middle ages, there was a concerted attempt by churchmen to chritianise not only the pegans but also the pegan dieties themselve s .Pegan shrines were baptised and given christian names.Although this might have seemed like an emasculation of pagnism, it turned out to be blessing in disguise because it allowed peganis m to survive and trive, albeit, under the protective veil of their new christian equivalenece of make-overs.
For example, st. peters cathetheral in Rome sits on the baptised remains of the temple of Jove, aslo know as Jupiter, the foremost of heaven and the father of the gods. The word peter is derived from Jupiter which itself is traceable to the Egytian supreme god Ptah, who was also known as the father of the gods.It is not surprising that the roman catholic preists, who are desciples of st . peter are refered to as roman fathers. which means that they are indirectly priests of Jove or Jupiter and the egyptian supreme god Ptah.

secondly , the twelve sons of jacob and the twelve desciples of jesus are modelled after the signs of the zodiac. The birth, life,miistry, death and resurrection of jesus is also a close paralell to the daily and yearly movement of the sun in the northern hemisphere.
The story and image of mary(the madonna) and her young infant jesus, goes all the way back to ancient rome with the goddes venus and her son Apollo , and then to the greek goddess Athena and her son Adonis and then all the way to back to Egypt with the goddess Isis and her son Horus .
Christmas and easter are pegan holidays which continue to be celebrated today thanks to christian baptism and a change of name. A rose by any other name is still a rose. While the churchmen of yore were celebrating the christianization of paganism, today pegans of every clime celebrate the peganisation of christiandom.
Christianity EtcRe: What If Christ Come Today? by globexl: 7:55pm On Sep 12, 2011
If he comes today, the pentecostals will surely assasinate him because he is going to spoil their party. If he comes back as a black man, rednecks will will shoot him down from the sky and Africans will reject him as that devil. For Africans, he must come back white with blond hair and blue eyes.
Christianity EtcRe: Faith And Historicity Of Lore -What if the Buddha did not exist? by globexl: 7:22pm On Sep 12, 2011
Also, embracing an athiestic viewpoint is (for me) NOT a negation of spirituality nor the intuitive and common sense ethos that are universal to all humankind.
Christianity EtcRe: Faith And Historicity Of Lore -What if the Buddha did not exist? by globexl: 6:35pm On Sep 12, 2011
You have made many references to Buddha and Buddism.There are two main types of religion: The custodial and non-custodial religions.This is a world of diffeerence bewteen The judeo christian religions and the oriental religions such as Budhism , shintosm, taosm , confucionism etc. The judeo-christian religions are custodian religions.That is: the entire system of faith is based on the belief of a custodian(god), who created, overseas, grants favours , judges and punishes the his creation. This type of religion relies on the belief in epic tales, historical dramas, and myths to anchor and sustain itself in the hearts and minds of the believer.In the this type, the fear of the Custodian(god) is an essential requirement for blessings and salvation.
Non-custodial religions like Budhism, on the other hand, are more like philosophical schools where the core ethos are more important than the lores of the religion. there are no asumptions or claims.Therefore, it would be easier for a Budhist to remain faithful to the core ethos of his faith irrespective of whether Budha's existence is fact or fiction.
All of us in Africa are raised from infancy to accept the judeo-christian concepts of divinity, so our religious and spiritual viewpoints are shaped from the lores of these religions. In the case of christianity, the belief in the virgin birth of Jesus, his miracles,his death and resurrection and his anticipated return are the cornerstones of the faith, far outweighing even the teachings of the Jesus. Martin Luther, the reformer ,postulated that faith alone was the only requirement for salvation, and many christians today strongly accept that.
Now if the essential underpinnings of those lores are found to be inaccurate or even fraudulent, should such a faith be able to hold and sustain itself? I say no way.
As a anti-religion -athiest, I remain open to the possiblility of the realization of god , but from independently deduced path, rather than from the lingering residues of my previous faith.

NB: I want to note that religious faith and spirituality are not one and the same and therefore can be mutaully exlusive.

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