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hahn:
I honestly do not know anything about evolution. Never bothered to read upon it even

I am more of a businessman than a scientist

my bad

Hopefullandlord

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The Mecca stone has always been the choices or preferred direction Muslims face despite the fact that God can be worship without anyone facing any direction.

Jesus never prayed facing the Mecca stone and Jesus all through the quranic lifespan never bowed nor made reference to the fact a generation after him will bow and pray to God facing a direction.

Christians worship God exclusively because the Bible makes it clear it is God who ‘created the heavens and the earth’. [ Gen 1:1 ]. As a consequence, if God created all things, then there can be no other god. Any other god that people choose to worship is, in reality, something they have created or dreamt up for themselves. You’ll notice that the various gods of Greeks, Romans and Egyptians usually related to aspects of creation like the sun, moon, sea etc. These are all things that God himself created. So God rightly calls on all people to worship him, and not the things that he created. Unfortunately, people choose to ignore God’s decree on this matter, which will bring about his judgement upon them [c.f. Romans 1:21-25 ]. In the Old Testament, this idea of exclusive worship of God was made explicit to Israel in the 1st & 2nd commandments [ Exodus 20:3-6 ]. Here God entered into a covenant with his chosen people [Israel], in which they were obligated to worship him exclusively. We do the same when we enter into a marriage covenant, in that we promise to be exclusively faithful to our wife/husband and not enter into relationship with anyone else. As such, God demanded that his people not worship any other god or idol. The notion of exclusive worship of God by his people is famously declared in Deuteronomy 6:4 - "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one". Of course, the Old Testament revealed that Israel was constantly guilty of idolatry [ Judges 2:11-15 ] and this eventually brought God’s judgement as they were exiled to Babylon and Assyria [ 2 Kings 17:13-23 & Jeremiah 25:1-9 ]. The New Testament continued to affirm that Christians worship one God. Jesus himself reaffirms Deut 6:4 that"the Lord is one" in Mark 12:29 . The Apostle Paul also taught this [ 1 Corinthians 8:6 ; Galatians 3:20 ]. However the nature of the oneness of God shifted radically with the coming of Jesus. As the Son of God, Jesus taught his disciples that he and his Father were one [ John 10:30 , 17:11 ]. In addition, Jesus teaching about himself and the Holy Spirit [ John 14:26 ; 15:26 ] demonstrated that God is one God, but three different persons - Father, Son and Holy Spirit [c.f. Matthew 28:19 ; 2 Corinthians 13:14 ]. This concept of “one God in three persons” or Trinity was a great difficulty for the early church. It took them 400 years to finally work it out!! The problem is that it makes no logical sense. Yet the bible is explicit about it - There is one God yet he is three persons. Not three gods united in one purpose, not three manifestations of the one God but one God in three persons. Ultimately our language cannot fully describe it and we are left with what the early church concluded in the creed: We believe in one God the Father, the Almighty, ... We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father; ... We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, and the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son, who with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified, ... As a result, Christians today are still called to worship one God, through the Son - Jesus, as we are indwelt by the Holy Spirit.

culled from www.christianity.net.au/questions/one-god

glory

Dude, get something to do

1Sharon:
Lol some ppl are talking to themselves. Dey there dey fool urselves

lepasharon, You need to learn how to walk away and let those fingers rest

by inference, she was a widow, searching for sure, but was working in the vineyard. But, at 44 since then, Muslims asked her hand out and she went for it.

That which was good was made bad for me

But I know of Hannah the daughter of Phanuel who remained in the temple despite all the negative wind that blew, I don't blame you ma, but you can still stand with Jesus

I was shocked when I saw this, I rest my case

So it was all a lie in quote, half story

you created the thread just about the time you claim you left Christianity

You never told us about the fact you were a widow

ooooooh,

vannessa7:
Well I will also tell you categorically I did not resign my job out of fear, I saw death coming and I was praying but nothing was happening, only God knows what I went through, as for those men of God, I'm sure they had holiness, they were not being constantly harassed by evil forces, there is a way the devil take away your holiness in order to make you an enemy of God so that he can destroy you, the battle cry of the devil is to make a believer an enemy of God, and if by the nature of your foundation or destiny you have been exposed to the devil, he will constantly manifest by making one unholy through several means such as spirit husband, familiar spirit, idol power, that person will always fail and cannot make heaven in such a state,

Christ has put all things under your feet, He has given you the spirit not to fear, but of power, love and of a sound mind, sin shall have no dominion over you,

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Islam is the only one that gets rid of all that

You mean to say, God is in support of Islam, do you know Jesus appears to Muslims and they convert to Christians

unless you are a pastor,

Wait, you mean, pastors are the only one that God recognizes or answer their prayers

I experienced a lot of the move of God in my personal life then such as knowing exam questions during my masters, I was the first to satisfy every condition to graduate in my masters class, I had career growth and prosperity before the devil took them all away

do you think Muslims experience this from your relationship with them

vannessa7:
What makes you feel it is, Jesus said by p l you because shall know them, if I don't see the manifestation of God in Christianity while here on earth what makes you think I will see it in eternity. Right from my first day in Islam I have experienced the presence of God,

By their fruits, pls shed more light on this, have you seen Hindus or buhdist and you say by their fruit, if you converted to. buhda or Hindu, they will seem to produce fruit because they are holy too. They believe in purity of the mind. See, you are still going to feel. the presence of God even when you do the most formidable thing

As I asked, what do you call a fruit, and take a sample of other religions if they don't bear such fruit. Islam is not really different from other religions.

Am sorry to say this, you might have experienced some gift of the spirit, but you don't or didn't fully comprehend that God sent Jesus to restore the fallen man back to God, the blood of goat or washing of hands is not a perfect sacrifice before God, its not outward adornment, but a recreated spirit, a new spirit, Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.


It is the spirit that quickeneth, the flesh is futile before God.

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.


If you are trying to stay married, I can only tell you what Moses did, Moses grew among the Egyptians, the Egyptians feed or on your case, married you, but Your heart should be on Jesus. Go to mosque and do all of their rites, but let it be unto Jesus.

Jesus said, no one cometh unto the Father, not even by mistake will anyone come near the Father, except through Jesus

Sibe007:
Sorry bro, I forgot to add that. Thanks so very much for your contribution.

You are welcome



back to your question, okay, I should not worry again

, una no go give us something, at least cold and chilled drink looool

Yea, odabo

obisco4u:
Go and tell people in conflict stricken countries that they need Jesus. Also tell them that Jesus was watching while they suffer, that he even created the means that lead to their suffering and he was aware that they will suffer even before the world was made. Don't forget to tell them that if they refuse to accept him, that he will gladly throw all of them into hell whether they like it or not.

Loooool, lemme guess, why the hatred, chill bro

There are men everywhere preaching the gospel, so no cause for alarm

Everything is in control

Lex11:
OP, your encouragement to read the holy Bible and remain steadfast in prayer are commendable. Yet, one major point to note... we do not accept the Lord Jesus Christ, He, according to His perfect will and power to cleanse, accepts us...

"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." - John 1:12-13

"No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day." - John 6:44, also Ephesians 2:8-10.

If we truly believe and are The Lord's, it is because He did it all... and I mean all.

Peace and blessings!

There are two side to a coin, head or tail

It is more blessed to give, than to receive two side

Receive and accept two side

That was well, I don't know, but at least I got a topic that's captivating

Yea, its often claimed by evolution and big bang that a cell arose from the big bang and the cell, stop there, the what, cell, grew and multiplied into billions or millions, I don't know

But my question is, what was this cells living on, because a cell need a host of some kind to provide them with basic necessities. Necessities as shelter or favourable condition for growth, not only that, nutrition, not only that, they need to go hurt for food, and on and on all into bracket M R N I G E R D is out of it,
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question: how did the cell survive

cc hahn

Sibe007:
Is this your reason?

What is the Gospel?

What do you hope to achieve by preaching this Gospel?

Do you think or feel preaching this Gospel will make Nigeria and the World a better place.


If your neighbor is currently loving you and their other neighbors and living peacefully with you and others, do you still feel it is necessary to preach your Gospel to them?

Loooooool, I was expecting a "thanks for your contribution" for the comment.

I will accept that as your intended reply, so I will just say, you welcome.

vannessa7:
many of you people here know one Christian somewhere who is an enemy to you afflicting you in one way or the other but you can hardly have such experience with a Muslim

You are wrong, the Bible said, the weapon of our warfare are not carnal and we wrestle not against flesh and blood, so which Christian enemy are you referring to?

vannessa7:
What makes you feel it is, Jesus said by their fruits you shall know them, if I don't see the manifestation of God in Christianity while here on earth what makes you think I will see it in eternity. Right from my first day in Islam I have experienced the presence of God, many of you people here know one Christian somewhere who is an enemy to you afflicting you in one way or the other but you can hardly have such experience with a Muslim because when the soul is corrupted the devil borrows it to perpetrate evil, you start seeing people in the dream afflicting you even when those people didn't go to any herbalist with your name because many people are too busy for that, but in Islam your soul is purified, it's what you see that you get, you can hardly hear of r 31Muslim confessing to witchcraft, many hosted being to make it big after relocating to Islamic state tsh knowing they are just enjoying the benefits of holiness, I use to wonder while growing up why Muslim's always win elections and are always at the forefront, u will take a pastor to match up to a genuine Muslim in holinoess,

See, the devil is the primary enemy of God from the start. See, the fact you see someone in your dream doesn't mean they are the one actually perpetuating those evil. I was listening to Olukoya explaining the die by fire concept and he said, its not the person that they are praying should die, rather, the spirit behind it.


We know of many prophets before Jesus who preached and proclaimed the message of God, but I always have this question, Mohammed seem to be off the mark. Mohammed was said to have fought wars, killed in the name of allah, the question is, considering past prophets, which of them was as brutal as Muhammad, have you ever taken time to recognise that, the isa in the quran might not really be the Jesus we proclaim.



Like I said, Americans will not fight Americans, but allow a terrorist into the territory, American is on their heels. See, light can't fight light as i said earlier, it would rather enhance the light. Jesus suffered on earth, we all know that, aside the constant criticizm his disciples faced

Lemme ask, who is Jesus to you

Go ye therefore into the world and preach the gospel

vannessa7:
If being a member of a church for 14 years and then staying in another for six years is Rolling Stone to you then you don't know what you are saying, you need to know the definition of madness, it is doing the same thing the same way over and over again and expecting different results, Islam came after Christianity and points us to the Bible and all the prophets and Muslim's thus familiarise ourself with both the Torah and Injeel I. e old and New Testament but Christians just assume everything about Islam, they don't bother to look into it, they believe their ignorance and assumptions will make it go away, God is the only one who knows who is serving Him

You spoke about familiar spirits, what makes you feel the angel that appeared to Mohammed was not a familiar spirit.

I will only say this

The beauty of light is in darkness

Moreso, Darkness doesn't fight darkness

Darkness fights light

Shalom

The devil knows you were a weapon of mass destruction, so, he attacked you with 7 stronger spirits, but instead of you to stand your ground, you cracked.

So, just enjoy your freedom in Islam, at least, you are now where you consider a place of rest (compromise)

Well, I really wish you knew about the suffering, chains and rejection Paul faced.

I will say, you gave up so easily.

See, Jesus said, in this world, you shall face tribulation, what makes you feel you will experience otherwise

Like, I said, enjoy the freedom, I only wish it lasts

efficiencie:
So you consider it wise to start reading a book from the middle and when you are though with the last half you go on to read the first half...I wonder what wisdom is in that! The law and the prophets, which was referred to as the old testament scriptures by carnal men who know nothing of the scriptures, is the starting point. The law and the prophets is the foundation of the gospels, acts, letters and the apocalypse! Without a thorough understanding of the law and the prophets, people churn out deadly doctrines.

Paul's letters were founded on a thorough understanding of the law and the prophets. Jesus himself in several instances referred to the law and the prophets (Matthew 10:36; Mark 12:36; Matthew 11:14; Luke 4:18 ...etc)!

It is erroneous to commence your study of God's word from the gospels, acts, letters and apocalypse...there is a reason Genesis 1:1 commenced with the words "in the beginning"! You don't start an event from the middle, even GOD does not do that...you start from the beginning...That is why it is called THE BEGINNING!

am not in anyway against the laws and the prophet. I believe in the laws and the prophet, from my write up, I employed or admonished them to start from the new testament

if you will take it, most of the writing in the law and the prophet were signifying or pointing to the coming of Jesus. Jesus is the end, the old testament was the beginning. Well, believe what you want. bye

what's the pattern for marriage between partners

An2elect2:
I know ours is to preach but we should be wise about it. Remember it's God that gives people new hearts to convert and be saved. If we know this we would not have to beg or influence people to accept our gospel since the power to do that isn't in their hands but in God's.

If people are not willing and only ready to mock, they are fools. Leave them and preach to others. Paul knew that men are natural born rebels and that only God can save that's why he did not waste his time with those Jews who vehemently opposed him but followed God's leading to other nations willing to accept the gospel of Christ.

okay. Do you have passion for evangelism and how do you view the following terms, grace, faith and redemption?

Halleluhia

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An2elect2:
That's what I'm saying

Whats your definition for freewillers.

She might reconsider her way and become faithful, ours is to plant/water, Paul heard Stephen preaching about Christ and he could recognise Jesus

God gives the increase

An2elect2:
Plus no more tithe for us but voluntary giving Spirit of Christ in us leads our hearts

Is there anywhere no more tithe is prophecied in the bible?

v10 says, God reveal them by the Holy Spirit. God desire that we prosper and be in good health, even as the spirit of our soul prospers

1 Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. 10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.