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plaetton:
Think of biological evolution, where every cell grows, improves, evolves and contributes to the overall success of the organism or species.

Human life is similar. Think of all the different people, the different ideas, in different eras that have contributed to the freedoms , guarantees and comforts that you enjoy and take for granted today. That is social evolution.

So, my purpose is to contribute, in whatever small or large way to the social evolution of my community, my nation, and to humanity in general.
No god required!

Fine

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You've got some point bro... I looked at the NLT and concluded thus, there are two different books.

And all the people who belong to this world worshiped the beast. They are the ones whose names were not written in the Book of Life before the world was made--the Book that belongs to the Lamb who was slaughtered.

1. Those who are not Christians have not their name in the "book of life of the Lamb," but worship the beast, that is, pay allegiance to him.

2. It is "the book of life of the Lamb," because it is through "the Lamb" that there exists a "book of life" for men.

The verse above, Reve 13:8 is refering to Christians, remember revelation said BOOKS were opened during the judgement, we know there's the book of remembrance, etc. Now the book of life of the lamb is a special book for Christians, while there was another for folks like Moses who weren't.

I want to learn this more, thanks buddy. You did great

chinnyonwu:
he forsaw the deceit of eve by the devil even right from creation, and went ahead and created eve and gave her d "free will" knowin fully well that she would fall for the devils tricks and the world would eventually degrade to the level it is now wit billions of souls on the path of hell?
That God doesn't sound very reasonable to me.

You don't either

asala1:
I said the OT bible. Even before Chirst died he instructed us to forgive unconditionally. He didn't say our enemies must seek forgiveness before we forgive them.

See for yourself

Exo 30:10 Lev 16:2 Lev 16:34 Heb 9:7 [Lev 16:14]

There was not forgiveness of sins without shedding of blood

plaetton:
My future is what I make it,.. bearing in mind that I share that future with everyone, including people infected and yolked with the irrationality of religion.

My future is not based on the calculus of any skydaddy.

Good... if your future is what you make it, what's your purpose on earth for? What you make of it?

musKeeto:
Hhaahaaa. I thought sin was of the flesh. so spirits can sin too?

man is a spirit. he has a soul and lives in a body.

sonOfLucifer:
Eve was not deceived. The light of knowledge attracted her. Light naturally draws us. Humans will always continue to seek light. We will prevail and there is nothing your God can do to stop us. A large portion of humanity will be in hell. YOUR GOD LOSES AT THE END. AS ALWAYS.

ok

sonOfLucifer:
Adam sold us out to God. He was a fool.

You're confused as usual... the devil, your self acclaimed father, deceived eve

sonOfLucifer:
What has Yahweh ever done for humanity? He sent floods to wipe us off. What a dickhead. The audacity!!

funny, what has Satan done? Sit and watch right?

Funny, that's all he's good at, sit and watch God's kid make things happen, he only moves to stop them

sonOfLucifer:
Slave. Only slaves are exchanged for a sum. I am a free man.

No one is/was born free... Adam sold us out to the Devil... Thank God Jesus came, and freed us all.

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Silly question, considering that you know that I don't believe that your skymonster is real.
It is your mental creation.
I have to acknowledge that something exists before I can say that I hate it.

Why do you attack those who believe in God?

Hope is for the feeble , ignorant and fearful.

Hope is not... it is for the future, faith is for the now, loe is for always. i ask again, what is your future based on?

sonOfLucifer:
Have you grown weary and tired of screaming the blood of Jesus?

No buddy..that blood made the devil a looser forever, it brought salvation... am forever greatful to God for the sacrifice Jesus did for me...and you.

mbaemeka:
Trash. When Jesus said the rich man was taken to Hell and Lazarus was taken to Abraham's bosom was it the spirit, soul and body that was taken there?

hmmm...good question

plaetton:
Hope is for feeble ignorant minds.

That's what you have,.a hope that your god exists, the hope that you can appease him with your fake hypocritical praises , so that he doesn't vex and throw your black behind in the barbecue grill.
Lol.

Hope is not for the feeble..hope works with faith and love... tell me, why do you hate God?

ifeness:
HE for your god Are you serious?? I don't hope,I know!

Humans are hardwired to believe in something... they have hope in something...what's yours?

9inches:
You don't bother yourself forcing a gift to someone who doesn't need it, do you?

Exactly

chinnyonwu:
But why dint God forsee all the hullaboboo the devil would have caused. ?

He did... it went so because He's given us all free will... even the devil. The devil deceived Eve, got the adamic authority, and ruled man in a terrible way, destroyed every beautiful thing God did... and God made a prophecy, that the seed of the woman would bruise the devil's head... Jesus was that seed.

sonOfLucifer:
Yahweh doesnt have the power to forgive Satan. HE has no jurisdiction over the affairs of Satan. Yahweh is like a spoilt kid that got too attached to his toys. He is a bully and a spoilt brat.
Humanity owes its salvation to Lucifer who shone light upon our darkened hearts. TODAY, OPEN YOUR HEART TO HIM. OPEN YOUR HEART TO KNOWLEDGE. KNOW THAT YOU ARE GOD. YOU CAN CREATE AND DESTROY. USE THE POWER WITHIN.

Your opinion is noted. Thanks for stopping by

asala1:
The OT Bible [size=20pt]does not state any condition for forgiveness.[/size] It instructs us to forgive
unconditionally, same should apply to our enemies even when they are unrepentant.

BTW how do you know that God allows those sins you mention to slide? Have you been to heaven before? No one is certain untill you get to heaven and you are told that it won't be counted against you.

You are so wrong.... blood was shed for forgiveness of sins... Goats, bulls etc

“The law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness” (Heb. 9:22, NIV).

Pr0ton:
Remember that God is a spirit. If He had died for the sin of the world in the spiritual sense it would be of no merit to man. For that cause He had to come in human form (Jesus) to cancel man's debt in the flesh. So we see that the redemption of man was initially impossible because God was a spirit. Not until when he became flesh was the redemption of man possible.

My point is you said that Satan could not be forgiven because s/he was/is not a man, i.e he's a spirit, and so God's justice should not be questioned, but your claim isn't reasonable enough. The truth is God chose not to forgive Satan. [/b]He only chose to forgive man by going far as becoming a man (Jesus). It was God's choice to do so. He's not living by example of "forgiving our enemies even when they wrong us". His own words go against Him and He's not worth calling God. He should have demonstrated this kind of love He's preaching by simply dying for Satan in the spirit too, then His justice, in that aspect, is commendable.

God is Love... if from the above you call truth, then, the bible lied that God is Love, and love forgive. Satan has pride and never asked for forgiveness.

9inches:
I never heard satan asked for forgiveness... He has [b]pride

I concur

asala1:
Must our enemies ask for forgiveness before we forgive them?

We forgive them if we have one who's already forgiven us. Someone paid our price and asked us to forgive all who err... God never created an enemy, Satan chose to be one, and by that, if he needs redemption, someone would need to be a sacrifice to atone for Satan's sin...human's won't suffice...what being would? Jesus already died for the world of men... He can't die AGAIN for the world of spirits.

OLAADEGBU:
Mentioned in Philippians and throughout Revelation, what is the Book of Life, and how do we get in it?

ola my friend. . .do your research well. . .moses spoke of the book of life,daniel too.

anyways,book of life is a book with names of all who is born into this world. the bible only spoke how a name is taken out,but not expressly how it gets in.

john gave us a hint on how a name gets in, and in the book of revelations,he speaks on how it is taken out.

in summary,your name got in the day you were born into this world,it never leaves it till you die in sin. this is contrary to what some teach,they claim a name is written when you get born again,and cleaned when you sin,and written again when you are forgiven,and the cycle continues.

whosoever dies in sin is blotted out,same is cast into the lake of fire.

ifeness:
Yes keep worshiping and thanking the evil monster for doing absolutely nothing!

Yeah, you think He does nothing, but i know daily He does.... may i ask you... what's you Hope based on?

"The bible teaches us to forgive our enemies, even when they wrong us. What about God? Why couldn't He forgive Satan?"

Well, God did not forgive Satan, because forgiveness is based on sacrifice; someone must take responsibility for the wrongs. This is the reason most religions of the world have no provision for forgiveness; the only one that truly preaches forgiveness is Jesus, because He took responsibility of our sins.

Jesus died for ALL men, because He came as a man, but Satan is not a man, if he was, Jesus would have paid fully for him too, and since he is not man, there is no one to take responsibility for him. Therefore, he will answer for himself.

Praise waiteth for thee, O God, in Sion: and unto thee shall the vow be performed. Ps. 65:1

Many of you are praying and waiting on God for the answer to your petitions. But when you’re waiting on God for the answer, wait in an attitude of praise and thanksgiving. Wait in an attitude of expectancy! Wait on God in praise! Wait on God in faith! Prayer asks, but praise receives.

Praise receives the answer by faith and thanks God for the answer before the answer is actually visible to the natural man. Of course, there is a proper time to exercise both prayer and praise. Both prayer and praise are necessary and important. But after you’ve prayed and believed God for the answer based on His Word, that’s the time to stay in faith by praising Him. You can actually get out of faith and into unbelief by praying over and over again about the same petition, if you are praying as if God didn’t hear you the first time.

Yes, some kinds of prayer such as the prayer of intercession require diligent prayer over a period of time. But even then you need to stay in faith. Praise ensures that you keep your heart and mind in an attitude of faith; therefore, praise can actually hasten your answer.



There are different kinds of prayer, and all of them are valid in their place. However, the prayer of faith and the prayer of agreement only take a short time to pray when you pray in faith and believe God hears you. You don’t have to get into a long theological discourse with God. Just pray simply and pray straight from your heart.

Praise and thank Him today and always.... God Bless you

Christ Jesus—The ONLY Mediator - Wednesday, December 10th .

Pastor Chris

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all…(1 Timothy 2:5-6).

Our opening scripture is about the man, Christ Jesus: who He is, our conviction of His personality, origin, and purpose. There’s no other way for human beings to receive salvation and be reconciled to God except by Jesus Christ. He’s the one who bridges the gap and makes friendship and peace between God and men. This is our conviction about Christ; it’s enough motivation to preach the Gospel.

Acts 4:12 says, “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” My conviction of this motivates me to preach the Gospel around the world. I’m convinced that there’s no salvation in any other, and I'm inspired and stirred by that thought. Man is doomed without Jesus; therefore, we can't be quiet or pretend as though there's another way. We can't wait too long to save souls, for there's no other way.

Man had become alienated from the life of God through Adam's transgression, but Jesus has reconciled us with the Father in the body of His flesh through death, and presented us holy, blameless and above reproach to the Father. He gave Himself as the payment for us; He paid what I owed, that I could never pay. He did the same for everyone in the world, but many still don't know it. That's why we must keep preaching the Gospel, because until they hear it, they can't believe it. And if they don't believe it, they'll never be saved.

Make soul-winning your life’s passion; let it be your greatest and most important goal in life. Having reconciled you to Himself by Jesus Christ, God has given you the ministry of reconciliation—the task of making others His friends. 2 Corinthians 5:18-19 says, “And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.”

Prayer...
Dear Father, I thank you for the extraordinary love and affection you displayed towards me, through the vicarious death of Jesus, so as to bring me into an inseparable union with you. Thus, I live in glory, fully committed to leading men and women into the warmth and affection of your salvation and grace, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Colossians 2:13-14
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; 14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; ;

2 Corinthians 5:18
And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Revelation 2:18, Revelation 3:1-6, Hosea 3-6
2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Revelation 11:1-10, Jonah 1-2

Interesting development.

Gej till 2019 sha

PastorKun:
Amebo

taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

holatin:
haters
because am not gullible like you doesnt makes me an hater

Shift joor... by the way, it wasn't a ship... it was LCA Oregun Lagos .. We got skills to even shoot a titanic movie and folks would think we went to the Atlantic.

I don't believe the story...

Anyways, GEJ till 2019 AFCON

How did I miss this thread o!

Please leave Pastorkun alone o.... he'd be redeemed one day