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Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 4:29pm On Nov 29, 2014
trustman:
I may respond more fully to your post.

But for now let me give you additional information that may help you appreciate things better.

Let me make it clearer: circumcision was a sign of the covenant between God and Abraham (Genesis 17).  This covenant was later extended to Abraham's descendants through Isaac (Genesis 17:19).  Not including Ishmael but only Isaac (Genesis 17:21). In Genesis 26 God again reestablished the oath he made to Abraham with Isaac. And then with Jacob who was renamed Israel (Genesis 35). The twelve sons of Jacob later became the NATION ISRAEL. God again reinstated his covenant with the nation Israel (Exodus 22,19,ff).  
God did not make any similar covenant with any other nation. Only Israel was his special people. Circumcision was therefore a sign between God and his special people alone. Anyone other people who wished to identify with Israel under the covenant had to be circumcised.
I wish you cannsee how you keep shooting your foot. Started well, then ended up innthe ditch.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 4:27pm On Nov 29, 2014
mbaemeka:
Your case is pathetic. Is any Christian not perverting Jewish tradition? Did Peter not also pervert Jewish traditions? Haha ha. Tell us if it wasn't Christian Jews that attacked Peter. The most inane remark I have seen on this issue is that 'unsaved Jews' would attack Paul for not circumcising gentiles. People Paul referred to as 'Men from James' in his writ to the Galatians.

I also thought you claimed circumcision was valueless in all ramifications? Did Paul not say it still had value? I thought you said it was dismissed in any form whatsoever? Did Paul agree with you?

As per mishmash, as it pleases you. Any scripture that exposes the flaw in any area of your beliefs is mishmash. It is the usual stock-in-trade of those who cannot learn.
I see you've met vooks! Redundancy and self inflicted confusion grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Blw International Day Of Service by Gombs(op): 4:25pm On Nov 29, 2014
Oyinprince:
Wow, I remember last year, we fixed some streets potholes.
We dug open and cleared a stuck gutter...messy but fun
Christianity Etc › Re: Blw International Day Of Service by Gombs(op): 9:50am On Nov 29, 2014
PastorKun:
So how much have you raised or contributed for CEC Idol's birthday?
Spread the word.... if you cant, please..... step aside. wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Blw International Day Of Service by Gombs(op): 9:46am On Nov 29, 2014
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Christianity Etc › Re: Blw International Day Of Service by Gombs(op): 9:45am On Nov 29, 2014
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Christianity Etc › Blw International Day Of Service by Gombs(op):
Saturday December 6th is the [size=16pt]2014 Believers LoveWorld International Day of Service [#BLWdayofservice], [/size] it is a day set aside to commemorate the birthday of the Man of God – Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Services targeted at corporate organizations and schools can be carried out on Friday 5th December 2014.

The emphasis here is on individuals rendering service as different from giving money for a group/church to render services on their behalf.

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• Log on to http://www.offer7.org/day-of-service and post your birthday greetings to the Man of God Pastor Chris Oyakhilome


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God bless you

Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 6:29am On Nov 29, 2014
Good morning folks, great resd all through. Mba, your last post was very very on point so much so that it should be a commentary. Weldone.

Meanwhile, a quick devotion.

Born Victorious . - Saturday, November 29th .

Pastor Chris

For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith (1 John 5:4).

There’s a higher life in Christ—a spiritual life to which we've been called, as Christians. We’re not ordinary. We were made to look like God, and to function like Him. We’ve been built with possibilities within our system. We‘re not in this world as victims; we were born victorious.

In Genesis, when God made man, the Bible says He gave him dominion over all things (Genesis 1:28). He gave us a life that’s superior, not only to the circumstances of life and the forces of nature, but also to spiritual beings of evil—Satan and his cohorts. Why then do some Christians still live as ordinary men,instead of living victoriously everyday? The reason is their ignorance of the Word: “They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness….I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High” (Psalm 82:5-6).

Thanks be unto God. Jesus said, “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free” (John 8:32). The truth is, now that you're born again, now that you're in Christ, you're a new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17). Whereas you were defeated and lived as a victim before you came to Christ, all that is history now. Today, with Christ alive in you, nothing can put you down; you’re a victor for life!

It doesn’t matter what your experience in life has been; it doesn’t matter how long you might have suffered or been in darkness; light has come to you now. Truth has been unveiled: the truth about what God has done for you, in you, and with you in Christ Jesus. Get to know who you are in Him.

Study, meditate on, and keep proclaiming, the Word, because the Word of God unveils our victorious life in Christ. You were born a victor. You were born to have dominion. You were born to live the superior life, and live triumphantly everyday.

Confession...
Dear Father, I thank you for giving me a life that’s superior to Satan, the circumstances of life, the economic conditions of this world and other problems that ruin people’s lives. I was born to have dominion, and to live a superior life, because the greater One lives in me. I’m a victor in Christ Jesus, now and always. Halleluiah!

Now, thatnwas refreshing. wink

Vooksm you see why we ain't ordinary? We're not mere men!
Christianity Etc › Re: Rhapsody Of Realities: A Daily Devotional by Gombs(m): 6:24am On Nov 29, 2014
Born Victorious . - Saturday, November 29th .

Pastor Chris

For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith (1 John 5:4).

There’s a higher life in Christ—a spiritual life to which we've been called, as Christians. We’re not ordinary. We were made to look like God, and to function like Him. We’ve been built with possibilities within our system. We‘re not in this world as victims; we were born victorious.

In Genesis, when God made man, the Bible says He gave him dominion over all things (Genesis 1:28). He gave us a life that’s superior, not only to the circumstances of life and the forces of nature, but also to spiritual beings of evil—Satan and his cohorts. Why then do some Christians still live as ordinary men,instead of living victoriously everyday? The reason is their ignorance of the Word: “They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness….I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High” (Psalm 82:5-6).

Thanks be unto God. Jesus said, “And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free” (John 8:32). The truth is, now that you're born again, now that you're in Christ, you're a new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17). Whereas you were defeated and lived as a victim before you came to Christ, all that is history now. Today, with Christ alive in you, nothing can put you down; you’re a victor for life!

It doesn’t matter what your experience in life has been; it doesn’t matter how long you might have suffered or been in darkness; light has come to you now. Truth has been unveiled: the truth about what God has done for you, in you, and with you in Christ Jesus. Get to know who you are in Him.

Study, meditate on, and keep proclaiming, the Word, because the Word of God unveils our victorious life in Christ. You were born a victor. You were born to have dominion. You were born to live the superior life, and live triumphantly everyday.

Confession...
Dear Father, I thank you for giving me a life that’s superior to Satan, the circumstances of life, the economic conditions of this world and other problems that ruin people’s lives. I was born to have dominion, and to live a superior life, because the greater One lives in me. I’m a victor in Christ Jesus, now and always. Halleluiah!

Further Study:
1 John 4:4
Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. ;

Luke 10:19
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: 2 Peter 3, Ezekiel 41-42
2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Revelation 3:11-22, Hosea 11-12
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 3:25pm On Nov 28, 2014
trustman:
Leviticus 23 stated many things God said were to be done forever or 'throughout your generations' or words to that effect.
How many of them do you or your church still follow today?
i have read the above verse, and saw none of the above bold, not even a vaguest hint...can you please furnish me how you concluded on that or at least paste your bible version?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 3:22pm On Nov 28, 2014
[quote author=mbaemeka post=28419473]
Yes bro. I know people bow down, kneel, and clap during praise and worship but there is not a single verse in the scriptures that says they have a spiritual meaning like say 'raising of hands' does.
true... any input from anybody?
Yet those things are not wrong like when we close our eyes or close our palms in prayer. Bowing down or kneeling, and clapping are fleshly ways of showing reverence and appreciation to someone. When Alexis Sanchez scores a good goal grin we clap our hands in admiration and appreciation FOR what he has done. Same way the Yorubas do ba le alot to show respect to elderly ones but all these things are physical and fleshly NOT that they are wrong.
nice points i must say

Jesus said the TRUE WORSHIPERS will worship the father IN SPIRIT and ACCORDING TO THE WORD. And that word worship there actually meant 'to bow, kneel'. So Jesus was saying true kneeling or bowing to GOD will be in spirit because that's what God truly desires. Does it then mean that those of us who kneel and clap are wrong? No sir and that is what I was trying to show him concerning circumcision.
vooks, what sayeth thou?

He kept asking us for the SPIRITUAL VALUE of it and I kept telling him that not everything we do has spiritual value. It doesn't mean they are wrong or DISMISSED COMPLETELY. If I stand in prayer God will still hear me. If I sit he still will. What he wants me to do spiritually is have faith (because faith is the response of our spirit to his word). If I kneel in prayer God will still hear me and if I lay on the floor he still will as long as I have faith. If I shut my eyes The name of Jesus will still work and if I open my eyes it still will. So because these things don't affect my spirit man doesn't mean they are now USELESS or COMPLETELY DISMISSED. That's what I was showing him.
vooks... he's got some pointers your know!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 3:07pm On Nov 28, 2014
Bidam:
Maybe this scripture will help concerning clapping of hands.

1For the choir director. A Psalm of the sons of Korah. O clap your hands, all peoples; Shout to God with the voice of joy. 2For the LORD Most High is to be feared, A great King over all the earth.…Psalm 47:1
thanks buddy!.. i just learnt
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 1:28pm On Nov 28, 2014
vooks:
My brother,
circumcising NOW is as worthless as burnt offerings. That has been my point all along. It has ZERO benefits to nobody outside the supposed medical reasons.

You have been pushing for a theory that it 'identifies us with the promise' which is flat out wrong. It doesn't.

PS: Worthless things are not necessarily sin.
Well, do you know if you know something right and don't do it, it's sin? For example, the true gospel preachers here, who seem to know how the church should be and hasnot done aanything in that regard, I hope the know they'd be sinning? But good news is, they're wrong.nso they're not sinning.

Define 'worthless things'! Paul was right to say circumcision did not bring righteousness, for Abraham was righteous before circumcision. The Jew thought it to be sin to ignore circumcision. How then did you conclude that it was not a sin to ignore it according to the jews? Remember you said " circumcision is not sin". A notion mba pointed out. If it was a sin in the day not to circumcise, Bringing us back to mba's question,

If the Jews had put pressure on him to commit sexual immorality would he have done it?
Why did Paul circumcise Timothy after the resolution in chapter 15?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 1:08pm On Nov 28, 2014
mbaemeka:
1. So if circumcision is not a sin why will it be TOTALLY DISMISSED FROM THE NT? grin see the flaw?

[size=20pt]2. Hair-splitting. Whether he circumcised Timothy and Timothy ALONE means nothing. He circumcised him after Acts 15. That's the point.[/size]

3. Wrong. Paul didn't say he resisted Titus from being circumcised. He said NOBODY FORCED/COMPELLED Titus to be circumcised even though he was a Gentile.

4. Please tell Genesis 17 and Galatians 3 or Romans 3 that circumcision has zero benefits. It is cyclical to keep mentioning spiritual benefits to it. I already said physical circumcision is physical. Period.

5. Please provide verses showing clapping and kneeling as spiritual.
That's what I was trying to drive home, but vooks don't seem to want to understand. Thanks buddy!

For the colored, vooks, I'd want to learn too...in all honesty I know about kneeling, but clapping is a no no. David once said Psalms 95:6 - Come, let us worship and bow down, Let us kneel before the LORD our Maker.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 9:34am On Nov 28, 2014
...be right back.. End of month frenzy!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 9:29am On Nov 28, 2014
[quote author=vooks post=28411364]
Abraham got me covered? Did he cover my tithing as well?
Yup!! smiley

If there is NO difference whatsoever between a circumcised and uncircumcised Christian, is circumcision of ANY value to a believer?
but his is what we've be saying na, Physical circumcision does not make you righteous, but spiritual circumcision. However, folks do physical circumcision for health reasons too.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 9:19am On Nov 28, 2014
vooks:
Gombs,

Could you please answer these questions;

1. Exactly what do you mean when you say that circumcision 'identifies us with the promise?'
it was a mark of the covenant God had with Abraham, it was for ever, from generation to generation.

2. Does CE teach circumcision as a necessity of 'identifying with the promise'?
let me call Pastor Chris. wink

3. If I am not circumcised and hence do not 'identify with the promise' what am I missing?
well, Abraham's got you covered...

Romans 4:11 ESV
He received the sign of circumcision as a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. The purpose was to make him the father of all who believe without being circumcised, so that righteousness would be counted to them as well,


trustman:
First, can you see the point we are making?

Your question has been answered long ago in my response to Goshen360 maybe a page or so before.
Why not try and seek clear understanding of one issue before wanting to jump to another.
forgive me for taking you serious.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 8:17am On Nov 28, 2014
^^
Do you still maintain Circumcision was for Israel and Israel alone? Let us start from there.

Vooks, you've said your bit, me mine... let the readers see and discern which is true by God's Spirit. You might also want to revisit my post you quoted. I added some things after you added some others things to yours Thanks
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 7:52am On Nov 28, 2014
vooks:
My broda,
But circumcision was NEVER retained for ANY reason. Acts 15 Council did more than clarify that circumcision was not necessary for salvation; it was dismissed altogether as a burden. [s]Proof of this is, Paul ONLY circumcised to avoid the bugging unbelieveing Jews. [/s] If there was ANY benefit ( which you can't name but Gombs calls 'identifying with the covenant' but can't substantiate) Paul would have circumcised more readily than only when pressured by non-believers.

So circumcision among Gentiles was not a noble practice abused like spiritual gifts in Corinth,for which proper use needed emphasis, it was an unnecessary BURDEN
I doubt the above cancelled. Paul was a staunch Jew (He gave his CV too), infact, he was so jew that he had to do much to come minister to them, even after Jesus clearly stated his ministry was to the Gentiles. He obviously was already circumcised.

I think you meant He circumcised Timothy because he was under pressure from the jews. I hope you can see you're wrong and take corrrection? Timothy, was half greek and half Jew, though the apostles resolution was that circumcision should not be a basis for being saved. He yeah, bowed to pressure of the Jews and circumvented the resolution. He circumcised Timothy who was a new convert, just to please the Jews who were taught one has to be circumcised before saved.

Later, there was another instance where Paul did his best to conform to Jewish practices. When he got to Jerusalem the local church expressed its concern:'
… it is said that you teach all the Jews in the gentile world to turn their backs on Moses, telling them to give up circumcising their children and following our way of life. What is the position then?' (Acts 21: 21-22, New English Bible)

Christian leaders in Jerusalem, knew that this idea was extremely controversial, and called on Paul for guidance. Paul did not answer their question directly. He affirmed that he instructed gentile converts to abstain from fornication and a few other rules. [size=20pt]He said that he followed the law. [/size] However, nothing is recorded as directly refuting the charge that he had been advising Jews to turn their backs on Moses and to stop circumcising their children.

In any case, the whole point was lost in an enormous melee that resulted in Paul being arrested at Jerusalem and finally sent to Rome. Paul's actions about circumcision in Acts are noticeably different from the thoughts he expressed in his letters. Some of this may be due to the fact that he was dealing with Jews in Acts whereas in his letters he was writing to Gentiles.

Another difference is that Acts writes about his actions whereas in his letters, Paul is writing for himself. However, there does appear to be a development of his thought on the subject. When his letters are examined in the order in which they appear in the New Testament, his attitude to circumcision as a requisite for salvation becomes steadily more hostile.

I just saw the Galatians part you added, what Paul was saying there was that after meeting with leaders in Jerusalem, they were in agreement with what he taught, and did not force him to get Titus circumcised. What we are saying here is, circumcision WAS NOT a basis for being saved. Titus was saved, and he was not circumcised, unlike how the Jews wanted it - one has to be circumcised else, no salvation. He buttressed this fact here

[NLT] Galatians 5:2 Listen! I, Paul, tell you this: If you are counting on circumcision to make you right with God, then Christ will be of no benefit to you.

Thanks
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 6:51am On Nov 28, 2014
mbaemeka:
^^Total rubbish- provide one verse that says so. Circumcision was not completely dismissed by anybody. [size=20pt]It was dismissed as a condition for being saved. [/size]The same way someone is not saved because they observed the 10 Commandments the way they would have been in the OT. That's the same way I am allowed to tithe without feeling it makes me righteous. However, the blessing of tithing is still intact as is the blessing of everything pre-law and in-law.
They still cannot comprehend this... no mind trustman and humility trash..he's yet to see my post to him. In acts 15, the apostles listed some of Moses' law that should be observed by the Gentiles, I now asked them, weremthe apostles mistaken to know the Law has been totally abolished?
Christianity Etc › Re: Rhapsody Of Realities: A Daily Devotional by Gombs(m): 6:26am On Nov 28, 2014
"All You Have Is All You Need” - Friday, November 28th .

Pastor Chris

Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you (Hebrews 13:5 NIV).

What our opening scripture is saying is that your lifestyle should be one that’s void of covetousness; don't lust after what belongs to others. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t dream or desire to attain greater levels of success; rather, it emphasizes being content with what you have, because what you have is enough to get whatever else you might need. All you have is all you need!

When God asked Moses, “What is that in thine hand?” Moses replied, “…A rod” (Exodus 4:2). He could have tossed that rod from his left hand to the right and say, “Nothing!” but he was smarter than that! He knew he had something in his hand that God could use; so he answered correctly. That rod was all Moses needed to accomplish God’s purposes at the time. With the rod, he performed miracles and brought the children of Israel out of Egypt.

In the New Testament, Jesus asked His disciples a similar question. He taught a large crowd, about five thousand men (women and the children not counted). Some of the disciples then requested that He should send the multitude away so they could buy food for themselves, having been with Him in the desert for long. However, the Master declined and rather asked the disciples, “What do you have?”

“There's a little boy who has five loaves of bread and two fishes,” they answered. The Master knew that all they had was all that was needed. He then took the little boy’s lunch, blessed it, and gave them back to His disciples to share to the people. Jesus didn’t put them down to multiply for everybody to see; no! He gave the same five loaves of bread and two fishes back to the disciples.

Trusting and having faith that something had happened, the disciples, with boldness, started distributing the bread and fish to the multitude. The more they distributed, the more they had to distribute. When they were through, not only had everyone been fed, they had twelve extra baskets full of miracle bread and fish (Luke 9:11-17).

In your life, never think, “If I only had this or that, my life would be wonderful.” No. What you have is all you need, and you have Christ. Christ is everything. He’s all you need to produce whatever else you think you might require.

Prayer...
Dear Father, I thank you, for every good and perfect gift is from you; and by your Holy Spirit, my spiritual eyes are continually opened to recognize those resources, gifts and talents you've placed at my disposal, so I could be a solution provider, both in my life and in the life of God’s people, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Exodus 4:2-3
2 And the Lord said unto him, What is that in thine hand? And he said, A rod.
3 And he said, Cast it on the ground. And he cast it on the ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from before it.;

2 Kings 4:2-7
2 And Elisha said unto her, What shall I do for thee? tell me, what hast thou in the house? And she said, Thine handmaid hath not any thing in the house, save a pot of oil.
3 Then he said, Go, borrow thee vessels abroad of all thy neighbours, even empty vessels; borrow not a few.
4 And when thou art come in, thou shalt shut the door upon thee and upon thy sons, and shalt pour out into all those vessels, and thou shalt set aside that which is full.
5 So she went from him, and shut the door upon her and upon her sons, who brought the vessels to her; and she poured out.
6 And it came to pass, when the vessels were full, that she said unto her son, Bring me yet a vessel. And he said unto her, There is not a vessel more. And the oil stayed.
7 Then she came and told the man of God. And he said, Go, sell the oil, and pay thy debt, and live thou and thy children of the rest.;

Matthew 14:15-21
15 And when it was evening, his disciples came to him, saying, This is a desert place, and the time is now past; send the multitude away, that they may go into the villages, and buy themselves victuals.
16 But Jesus said unto them, They need not depart; give ye them to eat.
17 And they say unto him, We have here but five loaves, and two fishes.
18 He said, Bring them hither to me.
19 And he commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass, and took the five loaves, and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he blessed, and brake, and gave the loaves to his disciples, and the disciples to the multitude.
20 And they did all eat, and were filled: and they took up of the fragments that remained twelve baskets full.
21 And they that had eaten were about five thousand men, beside women and children.

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: 2 Peter 2, Ezekiel 39-40
2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Revelation 3:1-10, Hosea 9-10
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 2:03pm On Nov 27, 2014
christemmbassey:
tithe wey u dey calculate no be ppl salaries? Don't worry, another small pikin go insult u back. Sowing and reaping no be d scam wey una de do for church o(collecting ppl's money) d insult wey u dey do now, u go reap.
Your opinion is duly noted
Politics › Re: Petroleum Minister, Alison-Madueke Elected First OPEC Female President by Gombs(m): 1:21pm On Nov 27, 2014
nora544:
How comes that only two newspapers from nigeria has this information.

Please be carfully I feel that this is not true because you will finde now such news from other countries.

Here in Vienna you can read in no newspaper online this news!

That is a photo from the real opec house in Vienna!
Did the OP say she's in the fake OPEC house somewhere? or the real OPEC house was supposed to carry Dieziani's Picture in front? undecided undecided
Politics › Re: Petroleum Minister, Alison-Madueke Elected First OPEC Female President by Gombs(m): 1:18pm On Nov 27, 2014
zlatansomto:
This news will surly give our south W**** brothers heart attack,. They will be lyk oh no,. [size=16pt] Ah ILe Aye mi ti baje..
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Christianity Etc › Re: John Macarthur's 2013 Strange Fire Conference by Gombs(m): 12:50pm On Nov 27, 2014
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Takes front seat....Watching! And observing... let me try and read through
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 12:40pm On Nov 27, 2014
vooks:
Start with why you do 10% while the Jew did 22%. Wait, yours is Abrahamic? Why then do you resort to Malachi which is directed at 22%-ers?
Bro, tithe in it self means a tenth. Malachi was directed to 22% ers? Really? grin

What is it? A high school subject?
Dear Lord Jesus! undecided

Who/what is a spiritual father?
A pastor, your shepherd.
Focus on the examine and the faith bit. I did and dug up lies I had suppressed for years
No time for frivolities bro.

I probably tithed first when you were still in your diapers. Been there,done that. You on the other hand know only CE truth
Your opinion is noted.

Please take time and go through them in your own time. Of course it is embarassing to admit to your fellow CE guys here that you have a crisis of conscience. It definetly helps to parade your solidarity with Oyaks to your pals. I understand that perfectly cheesy
No thanks! smiley

trustman:
You can see defense mechanism all the way. Even when advised: 
"Don't study them in defense mode, seek the truth out of them."
Humility will make it possible to learn, arrogance and defiance will make it impossible.
Trustman, you have sought my attention and it's becoming worrisome. Ok, let's demonstrate humility here, was circumcision as you said for ISRAEL AND ISRAEL only? Was that notion correct? If yes, how? If no, were you humble enough to admit?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 11:18am On Nov 27, 2014
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My broda,
when the HOW and WHY are interrogated, they are found to be unscriptural and quite dishonest.
Care to explain why tithinhy is unscriptural and dishonest?


My own Empress is a faithful tither. I do not tithe, haven't done it all of this year. before that, I been tithing for the longest ever since I learnt about the doctrine. All I did was to reexamine the doctrine. I can tell you that all along I had some reservations about the way Malachi was overused. Slight reservations. I had always believed that tithing was practiced since Pentecost. Then I discovered that it started 500 years after. Not unlike Christmas. The next question was WHY. Why would such a doctrine with such immense consequences be missing from the church for hundreds of years?
So, tithing is now a doctrine? undecided


I began to see systematic misuses of tithing verses. Then I made up my mind. No more tithing. One buddy of mine flew to Norway and he called me. Said he had seen me in a dream and I was giving him my tithes. THe dude is a great guy, a prophet, a man who stood with me in prayers and fasting. That was the straw that broke the camel's back. He is a missionary there but here was he aksing me to tithe to him and not my church. I waited for God to give me the same dream but of course he never did
Do you have a pastor? As in, do you have a spiritual father? By spiritual father, I don't mean God.

2 Corinthians 13:5 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
Outta discuss. This scripture is not relevant here.

Long story but the point is, please over and above the terrible insults and pride that fly across both sides of the divide, examine your doctrine. It helps to look outside your spiritual authority. If you are CE and CE teach tithing, then all literature will be biased towards that. Independent sources help alot. I can share afew. Don't study them in defense mode, seek the truth out of them.
Why haven't you studied the ones youve been given, not in defense mode, but to seek the truth out of them?

I don't want you to stop tithing, I want you to understand tithing and then like me you make up your mind whether that is for you or not
I do understand tithing, I've made up my mind long time ago...it's for me. smiley

Will a Man Rob God?
http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/32-Tithing1.pdf

Reconstructing a Biblical Model for Giving:
http://www.biblicalfoundations.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/33-Tithing2.pdf

http://www.tithing.com/
http://www.tithing.com/Breaking-and-Embracing.pdf#zoom=100
I can also give you web links too...alot of them too cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 9:31am On Nov 27, 2014
vooks:
You have sermons, books,devotionals on first fruits and tithing, ministers supposedly appealing to scriptures teaching you the NECESSITY tithing and the hellish consequences of not tithing. They teach these at Foundation schools am sure. Telling you God does not curse but men bring themselves under his curse......devourer,HIV...

You also have threads,teachings that tithing is not a requirement for Christians, that there are no consequences for not tithing any more than there are for not circumcising or keeping Feasts. They appeal to scriptures.

Why do you happily imagine that one is making rules and the other is not?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 9:29am On Nov 27, 2014
vooks:
You have sermons, books,devotionals on first fruits and tithing, ministers supposedly appealing to scriptures teaching you the NECESSITY tithing and the hellish consequences of not tithing. They teach these at Foundation schools am sure. Telling you God does not curse but men bring themselves under his curse......devourer,HIV...

You also have threads,teachings that tithing is not a requirement for Christians, that there are no consequences for not tithing any more than there are for not circumcising or keeping Feasts. They appeal to scriptures.

Why do you happily imagine that one is making rules and the other is not?
vooks,folks who tithe were taught how to and why, this is a far cry fry what anti tither do. they want tithing to stop being taught.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 8:30am On Nov 27, 2014
Bidam:
The truth is you can't make rules for me by warning me even if i am to eat meat offered to idols. That is my point. Can you point to any post of mine where i warned a christian to tithe. Antithers are always the folks opening threads all over this forum to attack peoples liberty to tithe.
Exactly. There are tons of threads here completely calling for a stop to tithing, others were notable for insulting ministers and ministries. How bbg was able to conclude thus is very worrisome.

No one has stopped anyone from tithing except than offer warning(s) of the unneccesity of tithing

The latter part of the above seems to be the new stand of anti tithers... "warnings of the unneccesity of tithing? "... Really? Remember when you were castigting WoF and tithing? Were you offering warning or calling for a halt of tithing cum painting em ministers in bad light, just to hang them?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by Gombs(op): 6:38am On Nov 27, 2014
Meanwhile, a little devotion! Vooks, take opening praeyers.... mba... closing prayer

All Creation Has Intelligence !

And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said to the sea, Peace, be still: and the wind ceased, and there was a great calm (Mark 4:39).

All of creation, both living and non-living, has intelligence. This is so clear in the Word of God. Jesus talked to the wind, to water, to bread, to fish, and even to a tree! In the valley of dry bones, the Lord instructed Ezekiel to prophesy to the bones. When he did, the Bible says there was a noise, and the bones came together, bone to its bone (Ezekiel 37:1-7). So, not only did the bones hear words, they had the intelligence of memory, such that even though they had been detached from each other for a long time, at the word of the prophet, every bone knew exactly which bone to connect to. No bone belonging to A, went to B. Every bone went to its original owner; that’s some intelligence!

If you study the first chapter of Genesis, you’ll understand why everything has intelligence. In the third verse, the Bible says, “And God said....” That’s the key! Throughout the chapter, we find many instances where God gave the Word and everything He said came to be, and retained intelligence. For instance, when He commanded the water to bring forth fishes from the sea, the water retained the “programming,” and produced the fishes. Thus, both the water and the fishes that came out of it were connected to the programming of God’s Word.

By talking to those elements, God communicated and programmed energy into them, and they retained it. Now you can understand why we must speak by the anointing of the Spirit, because the Holy Spirit helps to programme the right meaning into our words. Speak to your body, your car, your business, and everything connected to you—for they all have intelligence. Speak what you want to see, and what you want them to bring forth, and it shall be so. Remember, your mouth was given to you to chart your way in life, to programme your life from victory to victory and from glory to glory.

Confession...
I declare that health, peace, joy, prosperity, victory and the glorious life are my present-hour possessions in Christ Jesus. Everything about my life is perfected in Christ! I walk in dominion and success today. Halleluiah!
Christianity Etc › Re: Rhapsody Of Realities: A Daily Devotional by Gombs(m): 6:36am On Nov 27, 2014
All Creation Has Intelligence ! - Thursday, November 27th

Pastor Chris

And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said to the sea, Peace, be still: and the wind ceased, and there was a great calm (Mark 4:39).

All of creation, both living and non-living, has intelligence. This is so clear in the Word of God. Jesus talked to the wind, to water, to bread, to fish, and even to a tree! In the valley of dry bones, the Lord instructed Ezekiel to prophesy to the bones. When he did, the Bible says there was a noise, and the bones came together, bone to its bone (Ezekiel 37:1-7). So, not only did the bones hear words, they had the intelligence of memory, such that even though they had been detached from each other for a long time, at the word of the prophet, every bone knew exactly which bone to connect to. No bone belonging to A, went to B. Every bone went to its original owner; that’s some intelligence!

If you study the first chapter of Genesis, you’ll understand why everything has intelligence. In the third verse, the Bible says, “And God said....” That’s the key! Throughout the chapter, we find many instances where God gave the Word and everything He said came to be, and retained intelligence. For instance, when He commanded the water to bring forth fishes from the sea, the water retained the “programming,” and produced the fishes. Thus, both the water and the fishes that came out of it were connected to the programming of God’s Word.

By talking to those elements, God communicated and programmed energy into them, and they retained it. Now you can understand why we must speak by the anointing of the Spirit, because the Holy Spirit helps to programme the right meaning into our words. Speak to your body, your car, your business, and everything connected to you—for they all have intelligence. Speak what you want to see, and what you want them to bring forth, and it shall be so. Remember, your mouth was given to you to chart your way in life, to programme your life from victory to victory and from glory to glory.

Confession...
I declare that health, peace, joy, prosperity, victory and the glorious life are my present-hour possessions in Christ Jesus. Everything about my life is perfected in Christ! I walk in dominion and success today. Halleluiah!

Further Study:
Proverbs 18:21
Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.

Mark 11:23
For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.

Daily Scripture Reading

1 Year Bible Reading Plan: 2 Peter 1 Ezekiel 37-38
2 Year Bible Reading Plan: Revelation 2:13-29 Hosea 7-8

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