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https://www.nairaland.com/1116294/three-types-laws-bible-responsibilities DrummaBoy: There is no such thing as civil, moral, ethical and scribal laws in the bible. I am not talking about laws among nations. We are talking bible here. And when you find civil, ceremonial, ethical or scribal laws in the bible, especially the Old Testament, you may refer us there. Thank you.It's a shame that u don't know the bible or what it says... The above thread was of 2012, though the author is an anti tither like u, at least he knew the different types of laws in the OT. I'm done going round circles with you, post something worth debating or just, sit at the sidelines. Thanks Goshen, before u comment, notice what u said in the above link and make sure u r consistent with it u said Matthew, Mark, Luke and John was still the OT, but arranged under the NT.... hmmmmm, ok o.The fulfilling the law part...hmmmmmm, Goshen o |
DrummaBoy: Since both you and Jo' claim to be saying the same thing with me only that you are saying a little "more" than I said, I will not continue with my original text but will only add a little bit to what you have written above; iut let me lend you into a little "a,b,c" I learnt on nairaland.com religion section:Did you just say there are no such thing as civil, moral, ethical and scribal laws in the bible?... na wa o, just so u know, death penalty started in the Bible... the laws of the Western world including civil laws were coined out of the bible, how then did u conclude that there aint such thing as civil, moral, ethical and scribal laws in the WHOLE people? Chaaaaaaaaaaaaai |
The ceremonial laws including "clean" and "unclean" lists, sacrifices, dietary restrictions, ritual washings, etc. The civil law regulating social behavior and specifying crimes, punishments and other rules The moral and ethical laws, such as the Ten CommandmentsThe Pentateuch (the first 5 books of the Bible) The scribal law - the 600+ rules formulated by the scribes that everyone was expected to obey The Scripture as a whole DrummaBoy: Regardless of what the OP says, these scriptures cannot be expunged from the New Testament:Drummaboy, if u read my post, u wud see that the LAW meant different things to different context. I listed em above... I and the op clearly stated that the Law couldn't justify anybody, that was why Jesus had to come. What u posted above was kike we are saying the law made one righteous We are saying the law was not completely abolished like most of u think...the ethical and moral parts for example, stand till eternity, so are other principles...get the difference...later now, u go recommend ur blog for us.. ![]() |
I'd lve to ask thosenwho said the law is completely abolished....when Jesus said to em Pharisees in Matt 23, that they NEGLECT THE WEIGHTIER MATTERS OF [size=16pt] THE LAW... [/size] What law was Jesus talking about? Those things Jesus listed out, are they principles of God, or not? Were they ceremonial laws or laws of ethic and morals? Were they abolished too? Grace convention that held on NL last year, was a sham, i read all forms of rubbish, and watch supposed Christian 'teachers/scholars' err. If I dig up that thread and bring up what some brethren posted there in the name of preaching/having a 'talk', y'all would be amazed! |
Following this topic... I want to discuss this too, to answer atheists and satanists once and forever!... I'd prepare my armoury, and wait for them. |
The Teachings of Jesus By the time of Jesus, the great moral principles God had given to Moses in the Ten Commandments had been turned into hundreds of ceremonial rules. People thought they were living holy lives if they just obeyed all those rules. But Jesus disagreed. He said people found enough "loopholes" to obey all the rules and still live wicked and greedy lives (Matthew 23:23-28). Jesus made one statement about the Law that often causes confusion: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. (NIV, Matthew 5:17–18) Christians have struggled to understand exactly what Jesus meant. At first reading, this seems to say that all the Old Testament rules and rituals must still be observed. But Jesus and His disciples did not observe many of those rules and rituals, so it could not mean that. It is frequently pointed out that the term "the Law" could have many different meanings at the time of Jesus: The ceremonial laws including "clean" and "unclean" lists, sacrifices, dietary restrictions, ritual washings, etc. The civil law regulating social behavior and specifying crimes, punishments and other rules The moral and ethical laws, such as the Ten CommandmentsThe Pentateuch (the first 5 books of the Bible) The scribal law - the 600+ rules formulated by the scribes that everyone was expected to obey The Scripture as a whole [size=16pt] Jesus did not abolish the moral and ethical laws that had been in effect from the time of Moses. [/size] He affirmed and expanded upon those principles, but He said obedience must be from the heart (attitudes and intentions) rather than just technical observance of the letter of the law (Matthew 5:21-22, 27-28, 31-32, 33-34, 38-42, 43-44, etc.). However, Jesus and His disciples did not observe the strict scribal rules against doing any work on the Sabbath (Matthew 12:1-14,Mark 2:23-28, 3:1-6, Luke 6:1-11, 13:10-17, 14:1-6, John 5:1-18). Neither did they perform the ritual hand washings before eating (Matthew 15:1-2). In contrast to the dietary rules of the Law, Jesus said no food can defile a person; it is bad attitudes and actions that can make a person unholy (Matthew 15:1-20, Mark 7:1-23). Jesus frequently criticized the scribal laws (Matthew 23:23, Mark 7:11-13) and some aspects of the civil law (John 8:3-5, 10-11). [size=16pt] Therefore, Jesus was specifically teaching that the moral and ethical laws in the Scripture would endure until the end of time. [/size] That would be consistent with His actions and other teachings. Through His teachings and actions, Jesus revealed the true meaning and intent of the Law.It is also pointed out that Jesus, Himself, is the fulfillment of the Law (Matthew 26:28, Mark 10:45, Luke 16:16, John 1:16, Acts 10:28,13:39, Romans 10:4) The sacrifice of Jesus on the cross ended forever the need for animal sacrifices and other aspects of the ceremonial law. @joagbaje, yeah, ethics and moral laws are principles of God, they are not abolished, and like u rightly pointed out, conscience and other yardsticks folks wanna use to justify their acts would ALWAYS end in error, the law is th e foundation of right and wrong. Folks esp anti tithers say the law is completely abolished, just to nullify tithing, but the fail to see that when Paul asked Timothy to study, it was actually the law of Moses, ethics and morals, not ceremonial cleasing or scribal law etc. They say the law is completely abolished, but they don't have sexx with their siblings or infants, just because "conscience" is at work, forgetting that terrorist who bomb up pple have the their own form of conscience, which to them is right... some folks who never had any form of upbringing thinks it is right to kill who ever pisses them off, that is his conscience...what then? It all ends in error without the foundation in the law....the laws of the western world were crafted outta tye Bible (laws of moses)...be it death penalty, laws against rape, inbreeding, murder, robbery etc. How then do we reconcil the fact that the law is completely abolished with the fact that its moral and ethical stance arenvery much operational today and acceptable to God? And as u rightly pointed out again, the only issue with the law, the only problem with is was that it cannot bring justification for anybody... hewbrews 7:11 and 19, they said, the Law never made anything perfect, that's why Jesus had to come, to get us that perfection. No wonder he said he didn't come to abolish the law. The fact is that we are NO LONGER under the law, simply because it made nothing perfect, not because it is not Good (paul said in rom7v7 that the law is not sinful, in other words, the law of God is not identical to sin) I look forward to a wonderful session on this topic! |
Wow!...exceptional piece, we actually have to let folks see that the law is not totally bad...be right back with my additions |
Living In His Perfect Will · Friday, January 3rd · Pastor Anita Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God (Hebrews 10:7).. God loves to help you achieve your dreams, but much better is when you live out His dreams for you. He has a bigger and better dream for you than you could ever have for yourself. Therefore, in setting your goals for the year, the smart thing to do is to be sure those goals are within the ambits of His desires. Your goal, at all times, should be to fulfil His perfect will. To live in God’s dream for your life is the best place to be. That way, you’re victorious irrespective of the crises, stresses and struggles you encounter, because you’re in the centre of His perfect will. Everything you require is available to you in Him. The Lord Jesus said in Luke 12:32 "Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom." Living in His perfect will requires intimacy with the Holy Spirit. You’d have to recognize and yield yourself to Him, giving Him the right of way in your life. Maybe, right now, you’re in a situation where you’re not sure whether or not you’re living in God’s plan for your life, and as a result, you’re wondering "How do I come out? How do I change things and get back into God’s perfect will?" First, recognize that He’s big enough to change things for you. Secondly, decide to let the Holy Spirit gain dominion and mastery in your life: let Him take over! He’ll guide you to be in God’s place, in God’s time, for God’s purpose, in God’s way. He’s the One that reveals to your spirit the things God wants you to do, and how He wants you to do them. Living within the ambits of His desires will bring unprecedented joy and fulfilment into your life. Never try to be someone else; take pleasure in your uniqueness, and be what God wants you to be. Prayer.. Dear Father, I thank you for the light of your Word, by which I’ve discovered your will and walk in your plans for my life. I yield completely to the Lordship and tutelage of the Holy Spirit, who guides me in your perfect will, in Jesus’ Name. Amen. f u r t h e r s t u d y: Romans 12:2; Colossians 4:17 Daily Scripture Reading 1 Year Reading Plan : Matthew 3 Genesis 6-8 2 Year Reading Plan : Acts 6:9-15 Nehemiah 6 |
Kenny4lyfe: Welcome to a beautiful day, full of greatnessWow! I have the whole thing pastor Chris said...in written form, word for word... # Glooooooooooooooooray |
Pastor Olu T: Happy New Year to all the brethren in the house.Spot on Sir, very true |
Bidam: Don't mind Gosh, he was thinking in terms of tithes and offerings.I just hope he meant something else aside monetary thoughts...cos that prov 23v 23 is likened to that story Jesus told, where a manmfound a treasure in a land, then went home, sold all he had just to buy that land... why would the man wanna sell the land afterwards, after he's found a treasure there? Morning bro Bidam... ![]() |
shdemidemi: I don't think there is anything wrong in you dedicating a day to God, in fact every day should be dedicated to Him. What I believe we cant do is delude ourselves that God is also on standstill on such days.Who said God was on a stand still on such days?... meanwhile, he gives full attention to those who worship him in sprit and truth, irrespective of the day selected. |
Proverbs 23v 23. - Buy the truth, means, Consider truth as a thing of the highest value, and spare no pains, cost, or sacrifice to obtain it, and, when gotten, keep it safe; do not barter it for earthly profit or the pleasures of sense; do not be reasoned out of it, or laughed out of it; while " [size=16pt] sell it not," means do not part with it for any consideration. [/size] The second clause gives the sphere in which truth moves, or the three properties which appertain to it.(read the rest of v23) Goshen360: I wasn't contesting anything the OP said, I was stirring up something for our learning, changing the course. Okay, if he's talking about the truth in God's realm, how do I buy this truth in God's realm AND SELL IT NOT?It's a new year, do I need school u on the Bible this early? Cosider the last part of your post above...u were thinking monetary buying and selling, weren't u? Goshen, hmmmmm ok o |
[size=16pt] The truth He's talking about here is the truth in God's realm , which is different from fact. [/size] Goshen360: 1. Welcome to 2014 brethren.Read the OP well, you'd notice the above bold...Please read the OP slowly this time. HNY bro |
shdemidemi: There is nothing wrong with celebrating a new year festival but associating any spiritual connotation to it is the wrong thing we do. Is the day a new years day in God's calendar? It is always so amusing when churches act like the world and scream and pray loudest into a new year as if God is particularly moved by time.Would you say dedicating any day to God is wrong, just because it wasn't recorded in the Bible? |
[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]BULLSHYT. jesus is alive in your dreams. to us and the world and to reality, he is dead. No I won't. I never pass bad news.[/quote]It actually is a great news.... ![]() |
[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]so Britain and Japan were superpowers in the Stone Age? hmm interesting. . My Gods are dead? lmao! A spiritual force cannever succumb to human maladies. Infact, it is Your jewish man-god , jesus, who is dead. slaughtered like a goat by the Roman soldiers and nailed to a plank.[/quote]I meant stone age as a hyperbole....metaphorically Jesus is alive, forever! # Glooooooooooooooooray Let's stop derailing, u didn't say whether you would pass my msg to alfa or not |
[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]if a small Nation like Japan or England could be world power, then why not us? Dreams are good.[/quote]Cos we are in the 21st century now, not stone age... ![]() Pls tell alfa that ad rates are currently above 9, 000NGN... by next week, , twillbe more than 12, 000NGN....I pray for mynd44 u know? I pray he remains our mod forever! I pray he is not swayed or distracted by the microscopic few, who has no iota of best wishes for the religion section. By microscopic few I dont mean all atheists and pagans, msome Christians too fall in that category Pray for him too, ur gods (though dead) would like the idea |
[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]impossible. we shall resurrect.[/quote]More like madagascar trying to be world power... ![]() Dream on bro! ![]() |
Wow, was about starting a thread on exactly this day's ROR topic...sir, u beat me to it. However, great truths revealed to us by the Spirit of God. @ Joagbaje, this line got me crazy " [size=16pt] the truth of God's word is what delivers you from the 'facts' of life [/size] ".... that's something to shout about...wow! I wish the whole world knew/know this # GLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORAY |
Separate The Truth From Facts · Thursday, January 2nd · Pastor Chris Lord, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in thy holy hill? He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and speaketh the truth in his heart (Psalm 15:1-2). In John 8:32 the Lord Jesus said, "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." The truth He’s talking about here is the truth in God’s realm, which is different from fact. There are facts and there are truths. Truth is reality, but not all facts are true. A fact may be the truth, but it may not be all-time truth. For example, medical examination may show that a Christian has a tumour or an infection in his body; that diagnosis by the doctor is a fact, and not the truth. What then is the truth in this context? The truth is the revealed Word of God concerning your health as a Christian. The growth may be there, but the Word of God, which is the TRUTH and the reality, says you’re perfected in Christ (1 Peter 2:24). Take your eyes away from physical facts and fix your attention on the reality of God’s Word, which confirms your divine health. That’s what faith does: it changes facts by refusing to give them attention, consideration or cognizance. Mark the words of the Master: He didn’t say, "You shall know the facts, and the facts shall make you free"; He said "You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." The truth of God’s Word is what delivers you from the "facts" of life. Therefore, you’re to reckon with, and speak only, "the truth," that is, God’s Word: "…thy word is truth" (John 17:17). Our opening verse talks about speaking the truth in your heart; how do you speak the truth in your heart? It begins with thinking the truth in your heart. If you don’t think the truth in your heart you’ll not speak the truth. The truth is what God has said about you in His Word. That’s all that should count in your life; that’s all that should dominate your thought and speech. For example, if someone tells you, "You’re not so smart; there’s nothing special about you"; you’re to immediately refute it and tell yourself on the inside, "I know who I am. I’m God’s peculiar treasure, sound, super-intelligent, and excellent!" Prayer.. Dear Father, I thank you for your Word, the truth by which I live today and every day. Your Word has given me light and understanding, and has strengthened my faith to lay a hold of all that you’ve given to me in Christ Jesus. I’m living triumphantly, making my way prosperous, as I live in, and by, your Word, in Jesus’ Name. Amen. f u r t h e r s t u d y: Ephesians 4:14-15; Joshua 1:8 Daily Scripture Reading 1 Year Reading Plan : Matthew 2 Genesis 3-5 2 Year Reading Plan : Acts 6:1-8 Nehemiah 4-5 |
Alfa n pagan, I gladly wait for the deactivation of your account....tis not very far from today ![]() |
[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]If hes the janitor, than Im his BOSS. Happy New Year to you too. How did you celebrate?[/quote]Boss? Where does that leave Seun? I celebrated with Christ n few friends...twas awesome |
Oyinprince: Ok, thanks for stopping by. HAPPY NEW YEAR, God Bless me ![]() Best reply of the year....though the year still be a day old....lol |
[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]OMGS I CANT BELIEVE SIR LOGIC LEFT! let us gather all the remaining forces. We must not give up.[/quote] ![]() Extinction from NL religion section readily comes to my mind.... mynd must be the janitor here, he's doin a superb job Btw pagan, hny to u |
[quote author=Demain_man]@Gombs and Oyinprince, Thank you guys. I wish you a very happy new year too. Christ Embassy is the most creative of them all. It is like you are watching 'Oyibo' people do things when you watch their programmes. I am always very impressed with their organisational skills. And I belief completely when the Pastor said that 'you can only claim to be successful if your environment/society/country is also successful' I wish our countrymen/leaders can listen and act on those words in this year 2014.[/quote]Gbamest....that's why it's called Believers Love World Nation...excellence is a constant Be blessed bro! |
oluwaisaac: Obviously, JW idiosyncracy is that of 'nothin is worth celebrating.' Am I wrong? Please educate me.Exactly....anything you celebrate is termed 'pagan tradition'... let's mot forget to pray for the word of God to have free course unhindered in the lives of many! HNY |
Oyinprince: Halleluyah!!! No limits to ma greatness dis year, HNY# Glooooooooooooooooray |
Bidam: DOn't mind these religious folks..Happy new yr bro...Same to you!... wow!...what a year filled with so much goodies |
No Limits · Wednesday, January 1st · Pastor Chris He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men… (Ecclesiastes 3:11 NIV). One of your major determinations this year should be to achieve all that God has set in your heart to achieve, leaving nothing out. He has set eternity in your heart, meaning that there’s no limit to the extent of your faith; that is, how far your faith can go and how much you can accomplish.The Lord said to Abraham in Genesis 13:14-15 "... Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward: For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever." How was Abraham supposed to view the entire expanse of land and seas from where he stood? Was he to stand up, march around the whole world to take possesion of it?" No! Abraham was the father of faith; he understood the faith principle of seeing with the eyes of the spirit. Hence, he projected himself in faith; with his spirit, he saw the whole world. According to the Scriptures, God gave the world to Abraham by promise. There’re no limits to what your faith can accomplish. The question is, "What can you see?" In 2 Kings 2, when Elisha said to Elijah, "…let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me." Notice Elijah’s response: "Thou hast asked a hard thing: nevertheless, if thou see me when I am taken from thee, it shall be so unto thee; but if not, it shall not be so" (2 Kings 2:10). We see, we speak, and we receive. As far as the other prophets were concerned, Elijah simply vanished. However, Elisha, by the eyes of the spirit, saw a chariot of fire pick up Elijah into heaven. That was how he was promoted and became the head amongst the prophets. You have an extraordinary capacity to contemplate, think, envision and see endless possibilities. There’re things you might have desired and prayed about; take a hold of them with your spirit and they’ll be yours! Prayer .. Dear Father, I thank you for setting eternity in my heart, such that there’s no limit to what I can envision. Thank you for lavishly granting me the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of you; the eyes of my understanding being enlightened, to know the hope of your calling and the glory of your inheritance in the saints, in Jesus’ Name. Amen. f u r t h e r s t u d y: Joel 2:28; 1 Corinthians 2:11 Daily Scripture Reading 1 Year Reading Plan : Matthew 1 Genesis 1-2 2 Year Reading Plan : Acts 5:33-42 Nehemiah 3 |
JW folks, come on! Tis a new year na |
God bless you sir...HNY |
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u said Matthew, Mark, Luke and John was still the OT, but arranged under the NT.... hmmmmm, ok o.

