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zig2ryme04: one of the mixed multitude... You are not part of us and God will deal with you personally except you repent.

Exactly...he forgot its a Christian leader conference, hence not for everybody... and that monies would be needed for organisation, payment of staff n other workers and also, materials to be used like books, wi-fi, maybe cost for running the generator, meals etc

He sees it as merchandising the gospel...cos he knows nothing about ministry, if he did, he'd know the gospel is expensive to push out to others

Goshen360: Tell our Christian leaders to stop making merchandise of the gospel in the name of "prayer conference".

Cash registrations, this conference is not a free public program. ...Why do you take it to the public then? Why must "conference PRAYER" be paid to register to participate? If you can't organize free program, is it by force you must organize one?

Your opinion is duly noted, thanks for stopping by.

FOOL FINDER: Not to sound like the wet blanket but come on everybody here knows not everybody in India will accept the gospel as there is no place in the world where the gospel is accepted 100% not even in Israel. China next? Keep telling yourself that.

With my God, ALL things are possible

Zikkyy: this is not he objective of this thread. It's not in my nature to lose focus.

It is o... I understand why u can't say it....tis simply because one would need another lie to support a lie...

Cheers

Alwaystrue: @Gombs,
Jesus words were not directed to a people because of who they were but because of what they did. Is it not obvious?
Anyone who strains at little things and allows a bigger sin pass is a hypocrite. He does not need the pharisee tag.
Anyone who shows outward piety but his inside is full of all kinds of evil thoughts, intentions, vices, the person has a woe hanging on his head, it is not about being a pharisee.
May the veil be removed from the eyes of those who believe Christ was speaking to a certain sect because of who they were not because of what they did wrong.

Jesus was simply bringing to light the motives of their heart, per scripture, not focusing on their outward show of goodness .

Gbam.... simple and short and clear

Zikkyy: why you dey ask? Do you read me saying all communications with pharisees were meant for only jewish audience

A yes or No to bidam's kweshun would be just fine

Zikkyy: one problem you have is to assume you know too much. Do you read me saying "all" other things? I provided an example, that is not to say that was the only thing directed at the jews. Always request for clarification so you don't end up making false accusations.

What other thing was directed to the jews? Were there Christians at the time Jesus was still teaching and preaching? If no, how then did u conclude he was referring to Jews (the tithe part) and some other parts to 'Christians'?

Bidam: So when Jesus told a nicodemus pharisee to be born again..was that meant for ONLY jewish audience

Good kweshun...zikky, oya answer

Alwaystrue: When Jesus was speaking in the bible, telling us that he that lust after a woman commits adultery, and he that hates his brother is more or less killing him, what Laws are those? Are they of the Spirit or of the Letter.
When we fulfil the laws Christ gave us with examples I stated above, is the law of the 'do not commit adultery' or 'do not kill' broken or fulfilled?

My sister, follow me ask o

When Jesus spoke about the weighthier aspects of the Law in Matthew 23:23 that is love, faith, mercy, were these laws of the Spirit or of the letter?

They won't answer u this...

Whatever answer you have to those questions, will make go a long way in understanding my post.
The law of sin and death tried to make a man righteous from outside in which did not work. Christ came to work on the inner man bringing righteousness from the inside out. Jesus words cleanse. That is why it is shocking for purported Christians who claim Christ word's are not directed to them. They just shown they don't know what they believe at all.

From the above, I was about asking same...zikky said the words of Jesus are completely true, but some of what Jesus said were not directed to him...they forget that Jesus came to bring life, and ALL he ever said pointed to that fact...but these folks choose to chooose deception over the Bible. Just as u said...they don't know what they believe at all

Jesus Christ is the foundation, we should take heed what type of material we build on Christ. Every single thing Christ said is Truth!

For your information, there is still a ministration of death even in the NT. (2 Cor. 2:15-16). And the law of sin and death still applies to those who do not walk after the Spirit....Galatians 5:18

Tells them o....ppls tell them

Zikkyy: of course. Even though some of the things he said were actually meant for the jews and not for Christians (e.g. the need to tithe in matthew 23:23), it does not change the fact that every single thing Christ said is truth

all other things Jesus said "was for 'Christians' " but the tithe part was for Jews.... so, Jesus had two audiences he was addressing at the time...even though the apostles were first called Christians in antioch!....fascinating.

Una dey try o

DrummaBoy: Pleasse don't insult my intelligence. Don't ever in your whole life compare Rhaphsody of Realities with Paul's epistles. Don't ever try it again. Paul started every epistle he wrote with the stamp of his apostolic office; how dare you compare him Chris Oyakhilome!

There is only one thing I want to hear from you law advocates and that is this "Paul was not an inspired author of scriptures" and I will be done with you on this forum. But as long as you do not have the boldiness to say that and you keep going round in circles, with some comparing Paul with Chris, then we will continue to forbear with you.

Na fight? He made an exmple, not a comparison....na wa for you o!
Point out where he compared them...he asked
[size=16pt] Can I call rhapsody by pastor chris scripture today? [/size] not [size=16pt] I can call rhapsody by pastor chris today's Scripture [/size] and in regards the circulation part he used JUST AS not EXACTLY LIKE... even if he did use 'exactly like' it is because ROR is largely circulated, not because it is a scripture...

you needn't act rabid, with threats and unprovoked aggression, just to prove ur point.. u amaze me in bizarre ways

Exactly...india would never remain the same...it will burn with the fire of the Holy Spirit.

Imagine if india with a population of 700 million people (I'm surs it should be more), if they get this gospel...imagine the impact it would have in Asia!....Next is China... the church is marching on....Hallelujah
# Glooooooooooooooooray

Arinze4eva: A Christian prayer conference in India! and with pastor Chris in it, strangest thing I've seen this year

Why's that?

Bidam: Yeah i just don't start lying against someone:.What do i stand to gain sef? Thank God Image confirmed it.At the mouth of Two or three witnesses a word is established. You can check the 18 or last page the first tithe thread he opened inviting mark, candour and co to see whether he edited his post when he invited Rude to a new thread in order to convert him

I'd check

DrummaBoy: When you get a laptop, you can bring up the post where you said I said "atheist are better and closer to God than tithers". We can wait...

When I read that Bidam post this afternoon after returning from church, I had to read that thread all over again and I am sure I didn't say anything like that. How could I? I tithed fro 15 years was I worse than an atheist? My wife still tithes or at least still gave a tenth of her salary until November last year when she began to give what I have been saying some attention, was she worse than an atheist? I got to a church where you must tithe to be a member of the church are they all worse than atheist?

I could explain further what I meant by the statements I made but I wait for Bidam to quote me; don't worry, I am a man of utmost integrity, I have not edited those posts. The way I wrote them is the way I have left them.

@Gombs

I will attend to Jo' post soon enough.

Alright bro!

Bidam: Actually i am on phone and not able to provide the links..Even right now i am still in church..Sorry that i did not provide the link earlier cos am handicapped.Drumma as a fraudster,cheat and a liar must have edited his post since nobody quoted him, when he made those ridiculous statements.You can see he denied the allegations.Well let God be the judge of this matter.

I will check out the tithe threads he opened and made those funny remarks as soon as i get on my lappy..am busy at the moment.

Ok.... o....but from the romantic gesture of atheists and anti tithers, and for image 123 to point it out, I tire sef, wish the links were present, if he edited it, we'd still know....I just hope image123 wud breeze in and say what triggered his post

Thank you drummaboy for ur apt reply, more so for it being definite and precise, Bidam over to you..

Drummaboy, we bring up past issues about a person because, one's integrity matters. This is religion section, one wrong post from you can have ripple effects. Goshen for example, he's falsely accused I and joe, and now bidam... and cannot apologise for it, neither could he put up a defence like u did. How would you want us to take him serious with questionable integrity and character. If Alwaystrue asked goshen abt his stance on fornication tht happened on another thread, twas because she find his response questionable, and she could hence find communication/fellowship with him difficult. Won't it then be sensible to confront him with those issues?

Meanwhile, u haven't said anything with regards @joagbaje's post...I await

I've been following this thread, and my honest thoughts are that the fellow should stop talking about his problems and rather, talk to the problem.

Also, I see the op is selfish and idle minded, not because of he means so, but because he is doing so unconsciously. When he said he wanted to commit suicide just because of the reasons he stated, I wanted to type

"Hey bro, please walk into any hospital, and see folks begging for life, loved ones doing all they could to sustain the life of a friend or relative. Walk into the ghettos of the city and see kids who hve no parents and have no one to love them, go to the prisons nd see people who'd give anything for chance to start life all over...if folks don't love you, think like david... David said "The Lord is my shepherd, I SHALL NOT WANT FOR ANYTHING".. he said this not because he ws king, for he was a shepherd boy, at 17. Pls op, think like David...look up to God in faith, he'd never forget u, believe"

But I didn't cos I thought he was joking... however, im glad u didn't kill yourself
God bles u op!..to start with, get busy, start something, else u'd keep considering the devils opinions

Bidam: Yeah wonderful submissoin by Oga Jo...as for drumma you don't need to bother about him.. he was the one that made a ridiculous statement in a thread about an atheist being closer to God than a chrisitian who tithe . I had lost every iota of respect i had for him when he made that statement.

He even went ahead to ridicule himself the more by opening a thread for the said atheist thinking he could convert him Because of him the atheist blasphemed the name of God..You need to check out that thread.It was a show of shame really

At the first bold, I can't believe anybody who calls himself a Christian could say that...drummerboy, did u really say that? Even when bible said we should be good to everyone ESPECIALLY those of the household Of faith?

@bidam, i knew atheists and anti tithers had a romance few months back, they were both attacking on tithers, but I can't believe it degenerated to this extent.

At second bold, pls bidam if u could fetc me those links, I'd be very glad. Drummerboy, what sayeth thou on th above? Was it true u actually said that?

@Joagbaje, uv closed the thread...what more shd/could I say?

If folks still don't get the abov explanation, then, well....we'd keep praying for such fellow!

Goshen, apologise, cos its clear we are gonna ignore ur posts on this thread, till u openly admit u wronged us or apologise.


@drummaboy, pls I'd like to know what you think of what @joagbaje wrote above. Thank you

Sharers Of His Life · Sunday, January 5th · 

Pastor Chris

The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ? For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread (1 Corinthians 10:16-17).

The statement in the sixteenth verse of our opening text isn’t in effect a question, but the Apostle Paul’s peculiar style of communicating the subject, because the answer is obvious. First, it says, "The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ?" Emphatically yes; it’s the communion of the blood of Christ. Secondly, "The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?" Yes it is! This means when we partake of that cup, we’re partaking of His blood, and His blood represents His life. We’re therefore sharers of His life.

Jesus brought us into a kingdom of life. He said in John 14:6, "…I am the way, the truth, and the life…." In His benevolence, He didn’t just make us partakers of His life, but also the dispensers of that life: we bring others into this life through the Gospel! We live, exude and distribute the God-life, because we have it to the full (John 10:10). For us, sickness, failure, and all other forms of negativities have no place in us because we’re comrades of the God-kind.

Let these thoughts fill your mind as you partake of the Holy Communion. Jesus said to do this in remembrance of Him; when we take the Holy Communion, we celebrate His life in us and remind ourselves of who we are in Him, and the glorious benefits and blessings of His vicarious death on our behalf. He died that we might live, and now we’re alive to God—and He’s alive in us.

When you face challenges or difficult situations and decide to break bread, it’s a bold confession of victory! You’re saying, "Everything is going to be all right, because greater is He that is in me than he that is in the world." Christ has given you the dominion and the advantage in life; He has put you in the place of victory and nothing can take you out of it. Think on these things when you take the Holy Communion.

Prayer...

Dear Father, I thank you for the body of Christ that was broken for me, and for His blood that was shed for my justification, health, and victory. I rejoice today in His resurrection that has brought me life. As He is, so am I in this world! Halleluiah.f u r t h e r s t u d y: John 10:10; 2 Peter 1:4; 1 John 5:11-12

Daily Scripture Reading

1 Year Reading Plan : Matthew 5:1-20 Genesis 12-14
2 Year Reading Plan : Acts 7:12-21 Nehemiah 9

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Haters gon hate anyway!

Drummerboy, my problem with you is that you can't keep ur post short and precise... now, u want me to read the above?...I stopped halfway...and u still going round circles.

Believe it or not, the point of this thread is to show that the law is good, and the principles of God in those laws are eternal...the law is not completely abolished as most folks think... its major fault is that it couldn't make anyone perfect/righteous... no one is denying the works of grace, but to say the law is completely abolished is laughable

@goshen, apologise for ur errors...and let's move on

Bidam: @Gosh..lying has become your ministry this new year..Please could you quote where i said a christian is justified by the law as a means of obtaining righteousness?

If you can't quote where i said that then you forever remain a liar on this forum.

He still owes I and @joagbaje an apology for saying we are same entity...Goshen, prove bidam wrong now or forever lose credibility

Joagbaje: It's a shame and it's pity don't mean the same thing . Both may not be necessary especially without a provocation

Duly noted....
Drummaboy, please accept my unreserved apology...future reoccurrence of my faux pas is an impossibility. Thanks in anticipation

Different Levels Of Truth · Saturday, January 4th ·

Pastor Chris

And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also (Genesis 1:16).

We read in our opening verse that God made two great lights, the "greater light" to rule the day and the "lesser light" to rule the night. "Light," in the Scriptures, symbolizes "truth." Just as there’re different kinds of light, there’re also different kinds of truths revealed to us in Scriptures, and they don’t rank equally; there’re lesser truths and greater truths.

For example, when we say, "God is going to heal you today." As much as that’s a truth, it’s a lesser truth. It’s wonderful to know that no matter the ailment, you can receive healing, but God’s best for you is divine health. As you mature in the things of the Spirit, you move from asking for healing to living in divine health.

Deliverance is also a great truth, but living in divine protection is a greater truth. All through the ministry of Jesus, He never needed to be "set free" or "delivered" from the devil or any trouble. There’s something greater and better than deliverance: it’s living above and victorious always. Put the Word to work in your life, for the Word is the true light (John 1:9, 17:17). Measure your life’s experiences with the greater truths of God’s Word. It’s your responsibility to appropriate that which has already been consummated for you in Christ Jesus, and live the higher life to which you’ve been called.

Confession..
I’m perfected in Christ through the enlightenment and understanding granted me by the Spirit to know and live by the greater truths of God’s Word. I’m confident that I’ll consistently make progress and walk in victory, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

f u r t h e r s t u d y: Hebrews 5:13; Ephesians 4:14; Acts 17:30

Daily Scripture Reading

1 Year Reading Plan : Matthew 4 Genesis 9-11
2 Year Reading Plan : Acts 7:1-11 Nehemiah 7-8

Lordlexyy: Thanks Gombs and a glorious new year. I was wondering if it will be convenient for you to post those messages of the 31st night in its writen format? Thanks.

[size=16pt] 1.0 INTRODUCTION & WORSHIP [/size]

Praise The Lord Pastor starts singing
"How great thou art."

VERSE 01
O Lord my God, When I in awesome wonder,
Consider all the worlds Thy Hands have made;
I see the stars, I hear the rolling thunder,
Thy power throughout the universe displayed. 

CHORUS
Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,
How great Thou art, How great Thou art.
Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,
How great Thou art, How great Thou art!

 VERSE 02
When through the woods, and forest glades I wander,
And hear the birds sing sweetly in the trees.
When I look down, from lofty mountain grandeur
And see the brook, and feel the gentle breeze.

 CHORUS
Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,
How great Thou art, How great Thou art.
Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,
How great Thou art, How great Thou art! 

VERSE 03
And when I think, that God, His Son not sparing;
Sent Him to die, I scarce can take it in;
That on the Cross, my burden gladly bearing,
He bled and died to take away my sin. 

CHORUS
Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,
How great Thou art, How great Thou art.
Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,
How great Thou art, How great Thou art!

 VERSE 04
When Christ shall come, with shout of acclamation,
And take me home, what joy shall fill my heart.
Then I shall bow, in humble adoration,
And then proclaim: "My God, how great Thou art!" 

CHORUS
Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,
How great Thou art, How great Thou art.
Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,
How great Thou art, How great Thou art! 

[size=16pt] 2.0 THANKSGIVING SEGMENT [/size]

Hallelujah, at this time, I would like the pastor to join me in a special Thanksgiving segment. This is a very special, I like to do a special thanksgiving service on the 31st of Decemeber like this,I like to give a special offering to God at this time. Join me tonight and take that special seed. 

Then Pastor starts singing as the pastors join him on the altar

Great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised,
In the city of our God,In the mountain of His holiness.
Beautiful in elevation, the joy of the whole earth,
Is Mount Zion, on the sides of the north,
The city of the great King.
Is Mount Zion, on the sides of the north,
The city of the great King

 Praise The Lord. Those of you who would also like to give your special seed, please give the time of offering, we will let you know how to do it even if you might be watching from home.

  [size=16pt] 2.1 PRAYER OF THANKSGIVING [/size]

Father, in the name of The Lord Jesus.We thank you for your love, for your kindness.
We thank you for the year 2013, it was a year of Favour like you said.
It was Favour from every side . Thank you for the opportunity to minister and preach the gospel for you.
Thank you for the honourJust to use your name. Thy is the kingdom, the power and the glory.
We are only giving from what you gave us. This is our expression to you, our token of appreciation.
Thank you for lifting our visions, for giving us purpose. Thank you for giving us courage.
Thank you father for it was a great year, in the name of Jesus, and everybody says Amen. 

Pastor starts singing: He is the king of kingsHe is The Lord of lordsHis name is Jesus Jesus Jesus

[size=16pt] 3.0 RHAPSDOY OF REALITIES 2013 IMPACT [/size]

Hallelujah.I just want to show you a video clip, we just want to show you the impact that we made in this year just from one section of the ministry. Lets pick a part from our messenger angel, by the way, have you noticed that the angel is the messenger? The rhapsody of realities is now the number 1 daily devotional. We thank God for giving us this oopportunity to do this. This year we have achieved our goal; of reaching every nation of the world with Rhapsody of Realities. May all the nations and families be blessed through us, the seed of Abraham. I would like to thank all our pastors coordinators, translators all around the world. Thank you for working with the rhapsody of Realities. When you listen the testimonies, tears just come running down. Looking at the impact it has been on the pastors, students, prisoners etc. Thank you all for making that possible. Now I want to call for a special number by Evangelist Kathy and Chris Shalom (the man with a golden voice). 

[size=16pt]4.0 SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT [/size]

We have the international music concert available on a DVD. It's also available of Pastor Chris online Ditigal app.You have to understand that Where we are now is the biggest stage available at this moment, we are connected to the whole world for this point. So any ministration here is beamed all round the world. 

[size=16pt]5.0 PRAYER SESSION IN PREPARATION TO 2014[/size]

Wherever you are, get in prayer, we are about to move into another year,so I want you to take this time to pray. Pastor asks the whole congregation including the people connected from all over around the world to engage in prayer as their prepare to enter into the new year, 2014.

 Thank you father for the year 2013 and all the blessings that we received. Thank you for bringing us into a new year. WELCOME TO 2014, HAPPY NEW YEAR. Welcome someone to this new year.Glory to God. 

[size=16pt] 6.0 FUTURE AFRICA AWARD [/size]

Praise The Lord.It's a very special year, 2014 is Avery special year. Iam going to be sharing with you in a few minutes what the message of the year is and the direction he wants us to go.

 As we are getting ready for that, I want to talk about one area we need to focus on in Africa. Mind you, I am not saying nothing has been done, we just have to put our minds to the future of Africa. It's important for me to guide our thinking. To direct us which way to go. The future of Africa is important not only to Afirca but for the whole world. You cannot be thinking of Africa without thinking of children and young people.

 Tonight I want to call for the most inspiring leadership in Africa; whether it be in politics/ business.We have to create anew qualitative curriculum that can lead people to become successful.we need our children to really learn in such a way that they don't just graduate to work under a small room. A man must clean up his environment otherwise he will be affected by his environment.  You are not successful until your environment (city, nation) is successfulIt cannot be you alone, it must be you and us. That is true success. We must help build a better society.  Not only are provide clean water, transportation etc. we are training leaders all the time, so that they can help the communities and strengthen the societies.

 This 2014 I am asking you to give your time, energy to this project. You must train and equip our youths. We have establish FUTURE AFRICA AWARDS for young people. Through which we can recognize and acknowledge what they are doing. They will receive the awards and also some financial assistance ranging from 5000- 25 000USD. Including where necessary an opportunity for a scholarship. 

***FUTURE AFRICA AWARDS presented by Pastor TT Edun. *** afterwards, pastor Chris continues

2014 we want to see more young people challenging to do BIG things. That will be a plus for Africa.

 Can we have Jardel to minister to us with a song. We have so much talented people that God has blessed us with. ****Pastor start speaking in tongues.***

Did you hear that one?Thus saith The Lord.
My hand is mighty upon you, no evil shall befall you.
I lead you the way that you should go.your path was created wlong ago.
You were born so tht you should walk in it. Have confident in The Lord.
Trust in my light, trust in my spirit, trust in my glory. Leadership is service. 

[size=16pt]7.0 PREPARATION FOR THE MESSAGE OF THE YEAR. [/size]

At this moment I just want you to open your mouth and praise God, worship him, adore him, open your mouth and pray as you prepare to receive the message of the year. Hallelujah.

  [size=16pt] 8.0 FROM A LITTLE ONE TO A 1000 [/size]  

Only a few weeks ago in the month of Novemmber The Lord spoke to us and said, this chapter will characterize your life, your ministry this year. So I want to read to you this very portion tht we are at. 

Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee.
For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people:
but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. (Isaiah 60:1, 2 KJV)

There may be gross darkness in the world but you shall still shine, so don't be moved. 
And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.
Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee:
Tthy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side.
Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall fear, and be enlarged;
Because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee.
The multitude of camels shall cover thee, the dromedaries of Midian and Ephah; all they from Sheba shall come:
they shall bring gold and incense; and they shall shew forth the praises of the Lord.
All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee:
They shall come up with acceptance on mine altar, and I will glorify the house of my glory. (Isaiah 60:3-7 KJV) 

These resent different nations. Different people will come to you from all different directions,
 Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?
Surely the isles shall wait for me, and the ships of Tarshish first, to bring thy sons from far,
their silver and their gold with them, unto the name of the Lord thy God,
and to the Holy One of Israel, because he hath glorified thee.
And the sons of strangers shall build up thy walls, and their kings shall minister unto thee:
for in my wrath I smote thee, but in my favour have I had mercy on thee.
Therefore thy gates shall be open continually; they shall not be shut day nor night;
that men may bring unto thee the forces of the Gentiles, and that their kings may be brought.
For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted.
The glory of Lebanon shall come unto thee, the fir tree, the pine tree, and the box together,
to beautify the place of my sanctuary; and I will make the place of my feet glorious.
The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee;
and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet; and they shall call thee,
The city of the Lord, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel. Whereas thou hast been forsaken and hated,
so that no man went through thee, I will make thee an eternal excellency, a joy of many generations.
Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings:
and thou shalt know that I the Lord am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.
For brass I will bring gold, and for iron I will bring silver, and for wood brass, and for stones iron:
I will also make thy officers peace, and thine exactors righteousness.
Violence shall no more be heard in thy land, wasting nor destruction within thy borders;
but thou shalt call thy walls Salvation, and thy gates Praise.
The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee:
but the Lord shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory.
Thy sun shall no more go down; neither shall thy moon withdraw itself:
for the Lord shall be thine everlasting light, and the days of thy mourning shall be ended.
Thy people also shall be all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting,
the work of my hands, that I may be glorified. A little one shall become a thousand, and a small one a strong nation:
I the Lord will hasten it in his time. (Isaiah 60:8-22 KJV) Shout Amen. Glory to God.

Follow this, this is wonderful. Notice the last part of it. A little one shall become a thousand, and a small one a strong nation:
I the Lord will hasten it in his time. Don't forget it.This is what The Lord said to me

  When we talk about Jesus we are not allying about Religion, it's not just some story, where ever you might be tonight, if you haven't received yet, then receive him tonight, make up your mind. Christianity is the very life of God in us. If you receive Jesus into your heart, you will receive tht life. No amount of good deeds or meditation will give you this life. The only way is Jesus. When I make that call tonight, make that choice to receive him. Otherwise this message won't make sense. 

[size=16pt] 9.0 THE LORD SHALL MAGNIFY YOU[/size]

And Joshua rose early in the morning; and they removed from Shittim, and came to Jordan, he and all the children of Israel, and lodged there before they passed over. And it came to pass after three days, that the officers went through the host; And they commanded the people, saying, When ye see the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, and the priests the Levites bearing it, then ye shall remove from your place, and go after it. Yet there shall be a space between you and it, about two thousand cubits by measure: come not near unto it, that ye may know the way by which ye must go: for ye have not passed this way heretofore. And Joshua said unto the people, Sanctify yourselves: for to morrow the Lord will do wonders among you. And Joshua spake unto the priests, saying, Take up the ark of the covenant, and pass over before the people. And they took up the ark of the covenant, and went before the people. And the Lord said unto Joshua, This day will I begin to magnify thee in the sight of all Israel, that they may know that, as I was with Moses, so I will be with thee. (Joshua 3:1-7 KJV) 

And the Lord said unto Joshua, This day will I begin to magnify thee in the sight of all Israel, that they may know that, as I was with Moses, so I will be with thee. (Joshua 3:7 KJV) This is what The Lord is saying to us.

And the Lord said unto Joshua, This day will I begin to magnify thee in the sight of all Israel, that they may know that, as I was with Moses, so I will be with thee. (Joshua 3:7 KJV) [size=16pt] This day begins this year, this day, this week, this month, the lord will begin to magnify you before the sight of others, and they will begin to wander. But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: (1 Peter 2:9 KJV) 2014, God has said, it is THE YEAR OF GREATNESS. [/size]

The Lord will magnify you. He will make you a wonder to your generation. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. (1 John 4:4 KJV) Please observe something here. And the Lord said unto Joshua, This day will I begin to magnify thee in the sight of all Israel, that they may know that, as I was with Moses, so I will be with thee. (Joshua 3:7 KJV) 

Who told Joshua? Was it man or God? Did he say you will be great if people like you?Did he say you will be great if people try to help you?Man might despise you, but it is God who will make you great, and it is so.God said, this day I (God Himslef) will magnify you. But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day. The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble. (Proverbs 4:18, 19 KJV)

Just and wicked are two important words you find in the bible.The just are the ones God gave them justification. Your life's journey is as a shining light that shines brighter and brighter and brighter and brighter... This year can only be better than last year for you. The word wicked is used to describe the man who ignores God. Right now, if you haven't been born again, if you have not yet received Jesus Christ, I want you to have this oppritnity so that I can lead you to salvation. It's your moment, it doesn't matter where you are, I want you pray after me. This year, speak in tongues like never before.

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It is your year of Greatness, The Lord will begin to magnify you in all areas. I pray for your family and all those who are connected to you. If you are student, I pray for you succes in your academics. I pray that God will inspire you and increase you with ideas. I pray for your health that you walk in health.i pray for your finances, I pray that miracles will happen. There will be a multiplication even I your even in business. I pray for the children who are represented right now. I specially pray for your country I pray for peace in your country. I pray for the blessing of God and the leadership for you country. I pray that you have leaders that God has chosen, leaders for your good not destruction. 

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Make sure you don't miss our first communion service this year and every other holy communion service. It's very important. -the international Easter youth Camp will happen in Easter. I encourage you to sponsor at least one youth.- I want you to send your name and the names of your family members. Send them to prayer@pastorchrisonline.org- I don't send emails or text messages to people asking for money. Just know that is fraud, pleasebe careful - I don't use Facebook to post anything to you. Those accounts are fake, if you want to foollow the messages that we send out to you, use Yookos. 

Lets stand up and sing the BLW anthem.

Goshen360: I always knew you're always in the Spirit, knowing what is happening. I dey gather momentum for the teachers of law plus grace, because whatever they can't achieve under grace, they rum to the law.

I wan scatter ground for this thread, it's gonna be the best of Goshen360, I promise you. I have been holding and waiting for a time such as this because the Spirit has been holding me on teaching some things, but I think the time is now.

Just sit back, relax and participate. It's gonna be Apostolic dimension of Goshen360.

I have an archive of all what you thought and taught in NL pertaining the law, ESPECIALLY in that thread, Grace convention, I want u to make sure they all correspondent to whatever u would post here. I will not hesitate to pull those threads out.

Like the thread i dug above, make sure what you post here are in Correlation with it....like Matthew, Mark, Luke and John being old Testament books arranged into the NT... I yam waiting for you, seems like drummAboy should move to the sidewalk, he just shot his foot

nlMediator: I think both of you are talking past each other. The Bible contains laws in the OT and these laws can be categorized into moral, civil, ceremonial, etc. The Bible does not have to say that for anybody to know it. It's like somebody saying that Noah's ark contained carnivores, herbivores and omnivores and you're asking for where the Bible says that. All you need are the characteristics of each category of animals and compare them to the animals in the ark. Or it is like taking all the laws passed by the National Assembly on such things as allowing people to vote at Age 16, protecting the elderly from scammers, granting protections to the disabled, etc. Anybody with knowledge of the legal system can break these laws into such headings as Constitutional Law, Elder Law, Disability Law, Civil Rights, Criminal Law, etc. Because the legislature did not describe it as such does not mean we cannot. Unless, you're suggesting that al the laws in the OT are of the same character and have no distinguishing characteristics.

I think the larger point you're trying to make is that all the laws have been abolished regardless of whether they are ceremonial, civil, etc. But that's different from saying there were no distinctions in the laws.

I also think the point that the NT contains sufficient rules for the believer is a very solid point. That's what keeps on confusing me about this Law-Grace argument. The "new" teachers of grace spend their valuable time demonizing "the law" but when you ask them if they think rape, murder, stealing are wrong, they'd say yes. And then they launch into some mumbo jumbo about how people sin because of the law. Ok, so those that preach grace without law no longer sin? Somehow, their congregations are better behaved? Of course, anybody with a modicum of intellect knows that that's not even remotely true.

The OP struck the right balance, in my opinion, about Law and Grace. The law is not for the christian, as written. However, the principles behind some of the laws are still valid. That's why many of them are repeated in the NT. And that's why those that claim to preach grace-only never come out to endorse the moral activities, for example, that the law condemns. At the end of the day, much of this is much ado about nothing. Nobody can be justified by the law. And nobody can live a successful christian life who wallows in those activities called sinful. 1 Pet. 2:11.

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DrummaBoy: Judgement, Mercy and Faith.

How does this answer my question to you? How does this relate to the law being subdivided into ceremonial, civil, moral, scribal and ethical? Those are still my questions to you?

Thank you for answering....The Pharisees were very far from treating important duties with the same scrupulosity which they observed in little matters.

Christ particularizes these weighty duties: Judgment,(and) mercy, and faith. Three are named, in contrast to the petty observances mentioned in v23.

Christ seems to refer to the words of Micah 6:8, "What doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? " (see also Hosea 12:6;Zechariah 7:9, 10). [size=16pt] Worthless are all outward observances when the moral precepts are neglected. [/size]

"Judgment" means acting equitably to one's neighbour, hurting nobody by word or deed; as inJeremiah 5:1 a man is sought "that exerciseth justice.'" Such impartiality is specially enjoined in the Law (Deuteronomy 16:19, etc.).

"Mercy," loving kindness in conduct, often taught in the Pentateuch, as in the case of the widow, the stranger, and the debtor, and very different from the feeling of those who "devour widows' houses."

"Faith" may mean fidelity to promises: "He that sweareth unto his neighbour and disappointeth him not, though it were to his own hindrance" (Psalm 15:4); but it is more probably taken as that belief in God without which it is not possible to please him, and which should underlie and influence all moral action (Hebrews 11:6). 

Sir, drummaby, are you saying that, faith, mercy and judgement are not ethical snd moral , laws? Like nlmediator pointed out (I strongly recommend you read his post very very slowly), you dont need an oracle to know that the laws of Moses were categorised. As uusual, u just shot ur foot....Again

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I did not insult u... "it's a shame" you think I did.

It's a shame means it's a pity....now, to u, that's an insult?

Oya, let me ask this, in matt 23v23, what were the weightier matters of d LAW Jesus spoke about..cn u kindly list them here? Thank you