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Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 7:00pm On Oct 03, 2024
Osoderi:
The most important thing is for one to learn how to drive, even if I didn't pass I can still be using my hubby car to practise. from learning I can perfect my hazard perception training.
Do you really want to get on the road driving among other people without having a firm grasp of the basic theoretical aspects of it? What road signs mean and how you should react to them, what you should do when there's a hazard up ahead etc.

You say you'll be driving your husband's car but bear in mind that unlike an instructor's, there won't be a second set of pedals he can use to take control if you're endangering yourself or other road users.

Prepping for the theory test takes a couple of days to a couple of weeks depending on how much time you put into it. I can't see any good reason not to settle down and do it before you get on the road.

You can, legally, but I don't think it'd be prudent.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 6:56pm On Oct 03, 2024
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2k713lvpno

Very interesting article on the rise of Nigerian cuisine - and particularly high-end restaurants.

Will make it a point to visit at least one of these soon, for the culture.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 1:34pm On Oct 03, 2024
ReesheesuKnack:
You can’t even use your full chest to name names.
I am the one who has been posting about role models for my daughter. As a woman, I am again using my full chest to say I will jump at the prospect of my teenage daughter meeting Kemi Badenoch. It’s your cuppa tea if you dislike Kemi’s politics, but if my daughter achieves what Kemi has achieved (and over), I will be a fulfilled woman.

I note your closing sentence. Good! Far be it that you will stand on some moral high ground to diminish Kemi’s achievements. Or indeed any other black wiman who has swam against the odds to achieve what they have achieved.
Amen. And when she does, may she be a better person not just in accomplishments and positions attained, but also in values and morality.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch:
Just for clarity, what Badenoch said was NOT about migrants aspiring for more, because the liars have arrived. She said absolutely nothing about migrants's aspirations, their contributions, efforts etc.

It was about immigration specifically and how the country needs to watch who it brings (in reference to her previous comments about how not all cultures are equal) and not just let in people who will wipe bottoms. If you don't see anything wrong in essentializing people who do such important work as providing care in a country with over 160,000 vacancies for care workers, and dismissing them as people that 'wipe bottoms', then [REDACTED].

This is the full video -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO_ilxmdlFY. The immigration part starts around the 16" mark.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 7:41am On Oct 03, 2024
Zahra29:
Lol your usual Distractionism claims.

It's fine to disagree with politicians or whoever, but calling her a house niggress, idiot woman etc is a form of attack and no better than the hate speech spewed out by others. Would such abuse be made openly? I think not which means that people know that it's not okay.

And yes, if she or any MP is guilty of an offence, they ought to be reported and not threatened online. That's how a decent democracy works.
Where did you see threats on this thread?
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 6:48am On Oct 03, 2024
Zahra29:
"Vile, evil, idiot, stupid woman".....wow.

If anyone believes that Kemi's comments have crossed the line and that she is deliberately making disparaging and discriminatory comments against Nigeria(ns), then they should make an official complaint about her conduct which might lead to a formal investigation:

https://www.theipsa.org.uk/making-a-complaint

Or write to your MP and explain your grievances.

This is the UK. Your politicians work for you and not the other way round. Don't suffer in silence hate.
Your usual distractionism.

No attempt to engage or give a view on what Badenoch said, but instead the focus is, as usual, to shift the blame and responsibility for fixing the situation to the actual victims. To be clear I'm not saying you have an obligation to comment on anything Kemi says, but if you're so quick to police how people respond to her and dish out advice on what's appropriate because 'this is the UK', it's quite interesting when you don't have anything to say about her actual statements and their appropriateness for someone contending to be a party leader in this UK where 'your politicians work for you, not the other way around.'

Reporting anything to IPSA has nothing to do with describing any politician with the appropriate adjectives. If vile, stupid, and idiot are the ones that apply (or that anyone thinks apply), then so be it. After all when a top Tory donor said a black woman 'ought to be shot' and the sight of her made him 'want to hate all black women', Kemi was quick to say it was racism but it was 'trivia'.

Afterall, this is the UK, and there is free speech and Badenoch herself is a champion of 'irreverent' speech and believes that 'non-hate crime' speech shouldn't be policed by anyone. Her words - https://www.gbnews.com/politics/kemi-badenoch-vows-crack-down-free-speech-boundaries-messy-tory-legislation

Plus, why didn't Kemi go to complain to the Home Office to stop granting visas to care workers instead of denigrating them as bottom wipers? If she chose to take the route of starting a name-calling match instead, then it's only fair for people to respond in kind.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 6:30am On Oct 03, 2024
Jamesclooney:
What a pitiful defense of Kemi’s outrageous statement! It’s wrong to denigrate care workers who do a very noble job in a critical sector for this country. Moreso, coming from a first generation migrant whose father was a GP (would she be okay if her dad’s was described as a “bottom wiper”). Disgusting to say the least. Even Nigel Farage won’t get away with saying that, and there in lines the danger. Because of her ethnicity, she thinks she can say whatever without being called out as racist or extreme. Very soon her campaign will soon be over. Good riddance!
And this, brethren, is the simple truth of her value to the conservative party. Not policy ideas. Not competence and ability to lead. Not the ability to actually win an election - Simply the ability to subtly but consistently tilt the party to the right so they can pull back more of those they lost to reform.

Notice how all the people lauding her for being the first black this and Nigerian role model that can't actually name any accompishment of hers while in office? I'm even certain that she's the kind of person who'd say she doesn't want to be referred to based on her race, but yet that's the only thing her supporters can say.

Oh and she speaks well. As if being articulate is a proxy for competence or good values. Lol - how naive.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch:
Jamesclooney:
OMG…She’s incredibly stxpid. The gift that keeps on giving. This is the “inspirational” Nigerian woman some people wanted our children to aspire to become. She’s vile and evil. How dare you characterize all migrants as care workers? Also how dare you reduce them to bum wipers? God forbid!

Suella Braveman did more than this, where is she today? Hisss
Lol. Inspiration for Nigerian children who always only has negative things to say about her Nigerianness, Nigeria, and Nigerian people.

I've been seeing those posts and wondering what ideas the children will actually imbibe about themselves from listening to Badenoch, but far be it from me to say anything about however anyone is raising their children sha.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 5:38pm On Oct 02, 2024
Just saw this as well. Kemi Badenoch talking about immigrants and describing them as bottom wipers.

Lol. This joke writes itself, honestly.


https://www.nairaland.com/8228922/kemi-badenoch-mocks-migrant-workers
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 5:33pm On Oct 02, 2024
missjekyll:
Gosh
This same kind of rhetoric is how they started stoking anger against other groups of people. Tomorrow when people begin attacking civil servants, the But Brigade will come and begin explaining how the violence is wrong but you know, but you know the root causes.....

If you think this is farfetched, think about how people started attacking election workers after Trump's lies.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch:
ReesheesuKnack:
If you’ve followed my musings here, I’m sure you would’ve noticed that I don’t do headlines only.
I watched and listened to Tom from beginning to end. His position on the ECHR is/was spot on! What Tom said about the ECHR is far, very far away from what you posted above.

It’s the same thing when Kemi was asked about the ‘bonfire to European laws post Brexit’ she gave a perfectly great answer… unfortunately, some of those who oppose the Tories have (let me borrow James O’Brien’s illustration) their red scarves 🧣 so tightly round their necks, it reduces the amount of oxygen to their 🧠. Those lot can never see anything right with anything from the blue side.

I implore you, watch a replay of exactly what Tom’s response was on the ECHR and tell me if there is anything wrong with that response.
Every time you say something like this, you focus on insulting the person you're responding to but do not actually say what your own specific opinion of what is being discussed is. Here, the person you're accusing of having oxygen-deprived brains actually stated why they consider the ECHR too important to leave now or to leave in part. You use plenty superlatives ('spot on!'; 'perfectly great answer') but never any substantive answers e.g. what were those answers and why were they spot on?...It's crickets from you.

As a completely unrelated aside - I wonder if James has ever said anything about what happens when a person ties a blue scarf on too tight?
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 7:30am On Oct 01, 2024
Jamesclooney:
Well said! She’s not ready for frontline politics or rather to be the face of the conservative party/shadow government. It goes beyond culture wars and transgender sound bites. Sunak for all his faults, had a general grasp of issues, eloquent and gave off an air of competence. Jenrick seems to be the closest in the current field. Esp as Keir Starmer has lowered the bar (zero charisma & robotic responses to every question).
Funny thing though is that she has the best odds of winning. If I were a betting man I'd be betting on her to be the next leader but never actually become the prime minister. The conservative establishment know it would be great to have her be the mouthpiece of al the Farage-esque things they'd like to say to appeal to the Reform/Right-wing conservative crowd but can't, whereas she can do so freely (for obvious reasons) and is clearly willing to do so nonstop. It doesn't really matter anyway because they don't have a shot of actually winning the next election and likely the one after that. By the time there's a reasonable chance of them winning an election, she'll have been replaced as party leader by someone much more palatable to the base.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch:
ReesheesuKnack:
I have agreed with Kemi on a lot of things.
Although I see a lot of sense in what Kemi said (on this occasion), I must admit that in a [b]pseudo-socialist society the UK is, the ‘optics’ don’t look good (yet) [/b]for this kind of comment.
Whereas Kemi’s stance is ideologically understandable, in a UK where political correctness is rife, it makes sense to bash her.

As a woman, I would love to have a 3 year maternity pay. ‘Problem’ is, someone somewhere is paying for it. In taxes. I do not totally align with Kemi on this.

She said: "Maternity pay varies, depending on who you work for - but statutory maternity pay is a function of tax, tax comes from people who are working.

"We’re taking from one group of people and giving to another. This, in my view, is excessive.

"Businesses are closing, businesses are not starting in the UK, because they say that the burden of regulation is too high."
I'm marveled as to how the harshest criticim you can bring yourself to say against such an absurd statement is that 'the optics don't look good' - as if it's how people view it that is the issue not that the statement itself is problematic. Lol. You must really admire the woman.

Anyway, the simple explanation is that being politically incorrect is the new political correctness among the Tory base whom she's appealing to here - she and her ilk have consistently made it trendy to lay the blame for all the countries issues on the the weak, poor and vulnerable.

It's a continuation of the narrative that anyone who gets anything from the state is a 'scrounger'. Started with those receiving benefits, then immigrants (with all the tall tales about how they get brand new iphones and cars upon arrival) and now it's women. The statistics are clear on the impact of childbirth on women's careers, and how strong maternity protections help (although they still don't reverse everything. The idea that that maternity pay is what is holding back growth in the country (as opposed to the misrule she and her pals inflicted on the country for over a decade) is baseless.

The whole attacking Nigeria even when it's irrelevant schtick is more of the same. The more she can show that she's 'not like the rest of them', the greater her chances among the Tory base. Isn't it interesting that she kept mute during the greatest cultural crisis in the country since she got into government but all of a sudden now has a lot to say about it?

Everything she's doing is driven by self-interest and not ideology. That's clear to everyone who has their eyes open.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 3:45pm On Sep 29, 2024
ReesheesuKnack:
If you don’t mind, please post the whole story. Seem to be behind a paywall
https://archive.is/opSd0
Travel › Re: Living In The UK: Property,Mortgage And Related by Goodenoch: 5:28pm On Sep 28, 2024
mex551:
Good day my people. My. Lender trying to sell me and my wife decreasing term ,life insurance with critical illness cover for 268.00 monthly. I rejected it. Please what alternatives can I get. Help a brother
That's absurd! Go on comparethemarket and run quotes for yourself.

Edit: I don't know your ages and/or pre-existing medical conditions, if any, so maybe it's not absurd, but you should definitely still go to a comparison site and get various quotes before proceeding. Don't allow them pressure you with stuff like 'it's the best deal', 'it's already discounted' and all the other sales nonsense.
Travel › Re: Living In The UK: Property,Mortgage And Related by Goodenoch: 1:43pm On Sep 26, 2024
mex551:
So, I got my AIP directly from Barclays Bank and has an house offer accepted by seller I booked appointment directly with a Barclays Bank advisor to assist me with the application it a friend is insisting that I should use a broker. My question is this , since I already know the bank I want to use , is there any advantage I will get in using a broker that the bank cannot give me? Please advise me on what to do.
No. Using a broker is pointless in this situation. Their only value, especially for people who don't have ILR, is in getting deals in the first place because only a limited number of places offer those deals. Since you have an AIP, adding a broker at this stage would just add an additional layer of red tape.

Personally, our brokers have been helpful but the only reason we went with them is that we're not both up to 2 years in the country so wanted the advice of experts to pre-screen lenders who could accept that. Since you already have an AIP after a conversation with a mortgage advisor, it means they've confirmed you meet all the criteria and the only thing you'll need to do is supply the documents for their checks. All a broker will be doing is getting the request from the bank and passing to you, and then passing the docs you supply onto the bank.

Note - I'm far from being an expert in this so I may be missing something. Hopefully Madam Ticha et al will provide some more authoritative guidance.
Travel › Re: Living In The UK: Property,Mortgage And Related by Goodenoch: 5:20pm On Sep 20, 2024
PrettyPacy:
Good evening everyone I have read lot of success stories regarding LISA account. Can the LISA account be opened through an APP called money box? Or rather can someone please advise how to go about it? I am saving towards buying my first home in the UK. Thank you
@everyone
Yes moneybox is very good.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 3:33pm On Sep 20, 2024
Goke7:
😂 in fact this is the best response so far

3 gbosa for you. I hope all the patriots won’t dodge this question. Just like those who came in years ago will complain that immigrants are becoming too much in uk but will never volunteer to leave to reduce the number 😜
Seriously though, it's a nice quip but it's not logical.

The question is not about that person. It's about someone else in a specific dilemma. It doesn't make sense to imply that the person is being hypocritical without knowing how much they earn, what their circumstances are, what their spouse is doing (and earning), if they have children etc.

Even when I answered I said "I would stay back" implying that if I was in that person's shoes that's what I would do. Doesn't mean that 5m would make me move back today but I surely have my own figure. I still maintain that band 5 salary with kids of that age and a spouse who'll likely not be able to get work in his field for years is a much less appealing proposition than some are making it seem, but of course it's a matter of personal preferences.

People are still living and living very well in Nigeria in spite of all the challenges, and 5m will enable any family to live very well and overcome many of those challenges easily. Private Healthcare insurance, living in a very secure area, childcare, other household help, etc. that will very likely be inaccessible here in the UK on that salary.

I just checked and apparently the take home of a band 5 staff in the NHS is actually 1900 ish and not 2300 as I previously estimated. Accommodation for the family will very likely take half that. For those saying london extra pay, the cost of living in or near London will also take the same proportion if not more. And as for overtime - every hour overtime work is another hour that childcare needs to be paid for (or that the husband will need to cover and not be working).

Maybe the UK still makes more sense for some, but it's certainly not as clear cut as some seem to think.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 7:02pm On Sep 19, 2024
Krys1:
Please what is the deposit percentage rate of getting a mortgage after I have lived for 3years in the UK?
You should be able to get a 10% mortgage easily assuming other things are not problematic e.g. affordbility, credit history, length of time left on your visa etc.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 6:50pm On Sep 16, 2024
erico2k2:
Let me ask you this, If you are a Band 8 and Earnming over £80k will you say thesame thing?
Will the nurse start at Band 8?

Won't she be at band 5 or thereabouts taking home maybe 2,200 per month which is even less than the 5 million naira?

Personally I would say take that job, save aggressively and be in a position to travel in a couple of years if they still want to. Nurses will always be in demand so it's not like if she doesn't travel now she won't be able to do it later.

Getting a job as a civil engineer without prior UK experience is unlikely to be straightforward (granted I don't know much about that field) so it means they may have to get by on a single income for a while (especially as someone will need to care for the young children).

It's a no brainer, in my view.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 3:13pm On Sep 14, 2024
jedisco:
All you need do is look at the comments that follow.
I always do this, especially on Telegraph, Spectator, Daily Mail etc.

One of the effects of the riots on me was thoroughly disabusing me of the ideas of how most people here are, that I had formed based on my interactions that have mostly been with urbane, highly-educated/qualified people.

The riots themselves and all the roundabout justifications in the aftermath made me realize that the far-right are actually far and wide, although they're most active when they can be anonymous or in mobs.

Reading those comments now keeps me grounded and in full conciousness of the fact that a large proportion of the population actually holds those kinds of views, even when evidence is freely available to disprove their assumptions. They will happily read the headlines and first paragraphs and go off spreading fake news to strenghten their racist and anti-immigrant arguments even when the reality is just a few paragraphs down - which, BTW, is exactly what the publication wrote the article that way to achieve.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch:
missjekyll:
Addendum: The Mayor gentleman had been divorced for 10 years before he met Kamala. She was a highly successful lawyer who won the election on her own merits. She proved that by going on to win higher elections in addition to being very effective in all her roles so far.
Thank you.

It's even more ridiculous an argument when the opponent is a man who paid a porn actress for sex while his wife was pregnant with their child.
Travel › Re: Living In The UK: Property,Mortgage And Related by Goodenoch: 12:02pm On Sep 10, 2024
Jenny022:
Hello all,

We are in the process of getting a house. Please I need help with this statement from coal search report:

"The search revels that although reserves of coal exist in the local area which could be worked at some time in the future, there are no mines or associated operations affecting the property"

Is this a cause for concern although the coal search returned with a 'Pass'
Wouldn't be a cause for concern for me. The last coal mine approved in the UK was in 2022 after 30 years since the last one, and till now the approval is still dragging in court, and the new government is not defending the approval by the last one.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp68949n013o.amp

The odds are very low of any new mine being opened in the UK but even if one is to be opened near to you, it will, by law, be distant enough not to impact health, and it will even drive property prices in nearby areas up as the new workers and businesses to serve them move in.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 5:19pm On Sep 07, 2024
Fraih:
Hi guys

Pls how do I properly calculate the part time salary of a role when only the full-time (37.5hrs) salary is posted?

Let's say you want to find out what the part time (20 hrs) salary for a 24,500 full time role. Is there a website or a calculator?
They usually advertise part-time roles in WTE (Whole time equivalent) terms. So if you see that the role is 0.5 WTE it means you’ll be working half the full time hours of that role and earning 0.5 of the salary (e.g 37.5/2 = 18.75 and 24,500/2 = 12,250).

If they don’t state the WTE, you’ll get the fraction yourself by dividing the full time hours in that role by the number of hours. So in your case if the full time hours in that role is 37.5, you’ll calculate 20/37.5 = 0.533. You can then multiply that by 24,500, which will get you £13,066.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 8:40am On Aug 31, 2024
ReesheesuKnack:
The difference between you and Jedisco is that, Jedisco saw a telegraph interview, of a politician he ‘doesn’t always agree with’. Jedisco watched the interview from beginning to end. He picked up ⬆️ the good points and the lessons and learned/resolved to make a difference in the lives of younger generations.

You, on the other hand (I’m not sure you watched the interview from start to finish) decided to regurgitate your inherent bad feelings about Kemi.

Welll, Jedisco has made very vital points. The points made were the reason I watched the interview myself. Just like Jedisco, I may not agree with Kemi all the time but I have picked the positives and I’m sure my kids will learn from Kemi.
If you are not sure that the person you quoted watched the video, then are you not doing the same thing you criticized by “regurgitating your inherent bad feelings” about them baselessly? Or is it that when anyone doesn’t reach the same conclusion as you they must be acting in bad faith?

On the subject of Badenoch, she’s clearly a good talker and she has accomplished a lot for herself, so she’s inspirational in that way for people who want to be good public speakers and politicians, but as a public servant, she’s mediocre at best, objectively. She doesn’t have any landmark accomplishments, policies etc either at the constituency or national level despite holding major cabinet positions.

All that aside, the fact that she stayed silent (I still genuinely find this incredible) through some of the most dangerous times for the people she loves to claim that she’s one of (“first generation immigrants”) and is only now slithering out to parrot platitudes tells all one needs to know about her character.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 12:40pm On Aug 28, 2024
edmasta01:
LISA and SIPP are different products that is meant to meet a different need. LISA is an ISA to save for your first house or for later in life savings. SIPP on the other hand is a pension that you invest for yourself.

I suspect you are saving for "later in life". If yes, then it depends on you really on what the fund is for.

I will tend towards SIPP. I can then use it to invest in the stock market and watch it grow. But that is a personal preference.

For example, I have a SIPP at the moment with HL and I have invested into a few stocks on the NYSE that have done well over the past one year.

You can also consider a stocks/shares ISA instead.
Thanks! Yes it's not for first time house purchase - it's for later life. You can also invest your LISA in specific funds/bonds, etc (using Moneybox - not sure about other platforms or whether you buy specific stocks, although I have no interest in picking stocks anyway).

My issue is that it appears that the ability to get 40% tax relief plus being able to access it at 55 (57 from 2028) instead of 60 for the LISA makes it a much better option than the LISA's 25% bonus but I'm trying to balance that against the tax downside (it has withdrawal tax unlike the LISA).
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 12:34pm On Aug 28, 2024
willyede:
Why SIPPhuh...Hope you know they can't access the funds until age 55 or so...Abeg money is best for them when they are young...Thats the best start to life that can be given
Thanks. I'm not talking about children though (I'm guessing you're referring to the Junior SIPP). I'm referring to the standard one.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 10:56am On Aug 27, 2024
justwise:
Create one.
Please do @elengine, so I can ask this question that’s confusing me. I’ve exhausted all my math skills (admittedly not very much) trying to work out whether an SIPP is better than a LISA for investment savings.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 3:31pm On Aug 22, 2024
Ilekokonit:
The turning point was when I went to my Church in London, tendered my Tithe Account Number and asked to inspect my Tithe records in Jan 1999 and it quickly degenerated into the junior pastor on duty calling the Met Police and asking them to arrest me because I was disturbing them and the cops told him they could not arrest me because I had done nothing wrong.
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This is hilarious and interesting. What prompted you go go request your records though?

Had 'Daddy GO' already been moving shadily before then?
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 4:45pm On Aug 21, 2024
elengine:
Hi everyone

As a skilled worker visa holder, can I trade on shares and stock in the UK? I just registered with Revolut now and I thought I should ask before going ahead. The Google search is not making sense
You can. There's no restriction on investing in stocks. If you do it via a Lifetime ISA the government will even give you a bonus of 1k on top of your 4k every year so it's clearly very legal.
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 11:03am On Aug 13, 2024
profemebee:
ahn ahn


Lets not get biased here please....
Read the very simple question I asked again. I don't think you have.

So far, you're making arguments against things I didn't say.

I'm done with the whole debate anyway. Pretty sure all the perspectives are clear enough now.

Believe what you will. ✌🏿️
Travel › Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 12:22pm On Aug 12, 2024
dupyshoo:
Before I continue with this conversation,
what's your bone of contention?

That some thugs did not carry knives and daggers in Birmingham and they were not far right?

That they incited violence but did not say rape women?

That they are not MDL?

That they did not beat innocent people as well?

That they are not extremists?

Or that it is false information?

We are not allow to talk about other extremists on this forum unless it is far right?

I said I am afraid of those carrying daggers and knives in my city as well as far right.

What's wrong with saying that?

I did not know that on this forum, we are only allowed to mention the evil perpetrated by far right. Any other information is false?
I'm not contending anything. I asked one very simple question about something you claimed with certainty and you haven't been able to substantiate it.

I won't be drawn into this attempt to muddy the waters with random irrelevant points.

I'm certain the pattern I outlined is clear to anyone who takes a look now. Up to you to self-reflect...or not. ✌🏿️

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