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RikoduoSennin: And you forgot the part about "BASED ON EVIDENCE", because you only choose to hear what is in agreement with your understand/hear.

Tell me why does Human Cells stop replicating and repair as we age?

Kindly reread what you wrote. A human being that allegedly lived up to 969 years in a folklore . That is your evidence.. And you expect me to correlate human cells with delusionary tales...

RikoduoSennin: .
I am making things up? Not really, you are the one doing so. Not everyone will die to experience the New world where man will live more than 1000 years. ( Rev 7:14, Prov 2:21).

Man have been able to live much longer than now. Methuselah lived 969 years etc[b], Having faith base on this evidence is not far fetched mostly as man will be made perfect one again.[/b]

It is a fact that life expectancy in the past was very high and has been on the decline over man's existence. How often do you see or hear obituary of people aged 100+ unlike in the past.

If you believe in Science, then you know that the human body as a whole was designed to last forever but for some reason, it doesn't last. Eg the under used Human brain and unexplain reason why cells which normally replicate themselves stop doing so resulting in ageing, sickness and death.

Why do our body cells stop replicating and repairing it cells? Reasonable answer please!

Smh..... The highlighted part seals the deal. The foundation of your arguments thrives on fables and personal convictions. That in itself takes away reasonable replies.... Your evidence is Jewish folklore.. for crying out loud..!

Sorry dude, nothing dey happen here.

RikoduoSennin: .
Saying Humans are the key to their continued existence is truly wrong in every way. During all the time God have not interfered with the workings of man, what has man done, "Dominate one another to their own injury".

Who were in the plane-humans, who shot it down- humans, why did they shoot it down- human conflict/ politics. No matter the form of Government man has practised- Conflict and War has always been there. Extinction of key plant and animal species necessary for our continous existence is threaten by the actions of man, not to mention Global warming cause by man. "Man is ruining the earth".

You don't know the workings or will of God. Those sinless babies you mentioned are they more important than the still born/unborn and aborted kids? Even if they live, how long will they live, they will still die in this system of things but after the Resurrection- people will live for more than a thousand years, even forever in a world where there won't be evil. If given a choice, I prefer to die now as long as I am guaranteed a resurrection in the near future. The dead feel no pain, only the living mourn!

Lmao!!! There they go again... Making shiiit up.. "people living for more than a thousand years" and the only way to verify or observe this nonsense is to die... Smh... How do you say this things and not be considered a lunatic.. I'm just saying..

PastorAIO: I think you've got 2 separate orisha mixed up due to the similarity of spelling their names. Osun is a seer and scouts for Ori, and he is also the Opa Osun that babalawos have. Oshun, the river, is not the Osun staff nor the seer.

In short. Oshun is one deity and she is a river. Osun is another deity and he is the seer/bird.

I find this statement very interesting When you say "Osun is a seer and scouts for Ori," if you don't mind can you elaborate on that? Thanks..

MrRhymes101: haba!! so na only babe dey d smooch? dey no d smooch wife ni

Only married people go understand.....

Some days are different from others...

MrRhymes101: hahahahahahaha but do u need to ask ur wife? just start smooching and others will follow jor

Dude na wife we dey talk not girlfriend or side chick..

Clearly we know that yahweh is one of many gods. Most African abrahmist simply choose to thread on the path of ignorance in the name of faith.

That passage quoted by the op clearly show a god trying to claim or protect his market share. When a master is jealous or competes with his subjects that means the master can be replaced.

If we are to argue objectively. Then we must agree on the same starting point. There is no such thing as almighty God" because followers of any God proclaims their God as almighty.. Almighty is a state of mind. But REALITY thruimps always. Hence, the belief in a thousand and one Gods and counting..

Any God looking for converts must compete for market share.. Nobody holy pass...

CharlieMaria: Self deception is the act of making yourself belive what you know is not true. Live in your deception brother.

Lol....self deception you say..lmao!!!! Look in the mirror dude....your own don finish.. Allah awaits you...

Emusan: Actually when it comes to a question like this I've stopped discussing it with Atheist over one year now NOT that I don't have answer to them but the TRUTH is you have your own answer to each of them already.

What makes your "truth" valid and others void.? Your Convictions I presume...

The philosophies about God as per knowledge from my ancestors. Is that the believe in God is man's desire to be at peace with the spiritual power on one hand and with his fellow man on the other. Therefore, if Ukraine and Russia were at peace this incident would not have occurred.

However, since the likes of you believe that you have a personal relationship with your deity which qualifies you to speak on his behalf. Your god will constantly be mocked by atheist. Since you all keep making stuff up as you go..hence the numerous denominations..

CharlieMaria: Not to worry don't believe him now. When you die you will whether you want to or not.

Same here, you don't believe in Allah when you quench. You will regret believing in this one with a statue. Whether you like it or not..

Emusan: A traditionalist doesn't need to give such testimony about h/her gods because I know they exist.
At least a traditional still believes that supernatural being do exist unlike you that believe in Energy.



Just continue with it....since the time you've been doing, does it erase doubt from your mind?



He who doesn't have supernatural experience won't know that supernatural do exist....Younguz a NLder.



The promise of God for me, my families & friends in above testimony solves your problem.
Mind you it doesn't mean that I won't die again but just to prove His True Existence & Only God.




Ask those people, is it the true God that gave them the promise? because the true God is a covenant keeping God.



If you like continue to question from now till tomorrow it doesn't make God NOT to be God again, you won't be the first or the last.



As you made to believe.

Why do you have to showcase your mumurity...in reality energy is everywhere. Within this conversation where did I tell you that I "believe" energy is God...?

Like I said stop speaking for an infinite, you end up making excuses. Now you ask me to ask those people if they had a covenant with the true God..? I'm guessing by your convictions you will conclude that they did not speak to the one true God..the height of delusion. Thinking you're special in nature because you read a book and believed it's the word of an infinite...

Good and evil/bad coexist... It's not a believe. It's a fact! Abi you live in a different planet..? Heaven and hell is a believe, yahweh and lucifer is a believe..your delusion is unbecoming... No wonder atheist dey take una clean ground..

Which God do you speak of? The God in question would determine the answer..

CharlieMaria: You are worthy of worship? I doubt you believe in the existence of One true God, One in essence and thrice in person?

Who is this one true God you speak of?

Urhobo

Ears \ Erho
Head \Uyovwi

Chei...! see as I yab...ermm.. I will be right back..

maxism2: he was 82 when he died. he was hail and hearty and agile, when I left him that day only to return back from work to hear that he was rushed to d hospital and d next day he died.

his money had finished maybe thinking .

d ladies finished his money

Damnnuuuuuummm!!! At 82 the guy still dey finger.. , I guess he was getting his money's worth. He can always go back and smell his fingers... Hehe he.. Toto thinz...

Emusan: I've shared it many times on this forum to Atheist like you but they say many thing about it.

Before I go on I will like to let you know that if someone tells you a story about h/himself especially what s/he has passed through, you the listener has only two options
1) It's either you accept it whole heartedly or
2) you reject it.

It happened in 2005 & 2008 while I was praying suddenly I began to feel a powerful force moving towards me with fully knowledge of me that SOMEONE IS coming (my door was looked and it's at the middle of the night) so He moved close to me BUT I WAS so afraid so I got up because I was on my knee. so I began to ask myself someone enter this room.....


The visitation of 2008 was the one that expounded that of 2005, it started like that of 2005 after He moved close to me He covered me as if I was inside of Him.

In the two visitations as He was coming and Hid force is moving towards me I started speaking in tongue.
I was born into C & S church which in my time I never believe in tongue even sometimes making jest of them because I'm more or less like an Atheist just going to church for goodness sake which within me I mocked them even sometimes I can say I mock God.

Then God backups His visitation with a promise He told me that none of my family, my friends & I will ever involve in an accident. ( I later realise the reason of this promise because I usually afraid of traveling right from my childhood) apart from this they're many things God has done that time & space won't permit me to dive into.

This is all about me, my life & Christian race you can call it a delusion but I know WHAT I EXPERIENCED.

Like I said I'm not a pastor nor owning a Church which I'm not even pray to be (because it's not an easy task) BUT I have a testimony of God which has been my song to those I come across.

Reasoning and logic can't find God but our love with a humble heart towards him can do.

If a traditionalist gives such testimony about God would you embrace it as the work of an infinite being..?

This is why atheist mock "GOD"...you all are always eager to explain the work of infinity through supernatural submission. You totally ignore realities. No one is safe from lifes curve ball.

People give testimonies about God telling them that they and their families are safe from accident or random mishap. But when such befalls them they make excuses. God knows best, he gives he takes, you cannot question God, his ways are not our ways.. Etc.. Opening doors for more mockery...

When abrahmist stop speaking for an infinite or feeling special, then an atheist will have nothing to question.

Good and evil must coexist, life happens..!

feran14: Chai... Nairalanders... You have turn this one into religious thread.... Na wa o

Bros, no be like that.. He proclaimed a statue that correct thunder strike as the image of his god... All I did was hail the guy.. The next thing the guy tear me scriptures....

CharlieMaria: You worship your consciousness? You commit a greater idolatry, for you worship yourself. SMH.

For I'm worthy of worship.... I basked in the glory of my existence and reality.

You on the other hand worship common man made objects (statues)..Tufiakwa!

Meanwhile, Explain yourself with the use of the word "commit"

Hmmm...I find this interesting.... Will be back..

CharlieMaria: You are confused brother. I worship idol with Joshua, what do you worship?

I'm not your brother..one that refers to a statue as the image of his god and uses the word confused is not part of my lineage... Tufiakwa!!!

I worship my consciousness...

CharlieMaria: If you call me Idol worshipper what then will you call Joshua in the book of Joshua 7:7? Where he prostrated before the ark of the covenant that has on it the moulded statue of two cherubs? Think to yourself.

So you learned from another idol worshipper (Joshua the covenant prostrator on how to glorify objects...

Say it loud and proud...! charlie the idol worshipper..

CharlieMaria: The Statue of Christ your God is ungodly?SMH for you.

The great idol worshipper .... I hail oooh.!

macof: Lol Christians and muslims don't know They worship Aje.

Let me see them nt work for Money

I recently heard a Muslim greet "eku ora Aje"
That is welldone with the work of Aje, the God of wealth, trade and business.
I laughed that this same nigger would curse Aje later.

I'm a little bit confused on this "Aje" things...

Is Orisha Aje = witch

Or good market..?

Or is it by pronunciation or context...

Hmmmm....I once told my mum that I'm my own Orisha.. The woman shout.. "GOD FORBID. " so I rephrased my statement. That my "Ori" is superior to any deity. Without my Ori there is no consciousness of being spiritual/physical. Therefore, being an "Aborisha" in the physical sum of things is looking for trouble.

I say this with the verse understanding that Ogun, Sango, Olukun are regarded as Orishas. To then call myself an Aborisha is setting myself up for unwarranted spiritual testing in the fourth realm... because the Gods could care less, but man will always want proof and set forth his inquisitive ways that might lead to bad bad bad things.. You get me..

With my Ori I exist, with my Ori I connect with my spirit/mind/soul. With my Ori I connect with my body/physical self. I nourish myself with my ability to understand my reality, needs and self preservation.

Therefore, my Ori tells me to leave "Abo" and "Sha" to the Gods... in pronunciation. But in practice I have no choice..

Angeldemivida: Do you think backward gentleman? Nobody is talking about bleaching to hide the Africanness. Some of you here are not deep enough to hold sensible/mature conversation with so I will pass.

Calm down.. I totally get where you're coming from. There is no such thing as black or white race. It's all about a change of mindset. American history has hijacked the word Negro, black as negative reference. As an African the word "black" is just what it is...

OP, thanks for sharing such information.

They really did a good job in distorting the black man's historical contributions in Argentina. The last thought that would come to my mind is "black race" in this country. But then again, some Africans continues to under value themselves. Bleaching their skin, distorting their history and condemning their ancestors, and through religious indoctrination they see the white race as superior... . Smh... the list is endless.

To the extent that a black person with a single drop of white connection proclaims themselves as white. this is inferiority complex reloaded.But I don't blame them. If Africans cannot take pride in their heritage or lineage why should someone living in a society that discriminates against darker skin tone take pride in it.

Anyways, we learn everyday.. The Gods are wise...

@samoks

I was asked to bow and worship it, but I said no, I refused. Right there in the dream I said that the only one worth worshiping is the Prince of Peace...The Holy one of Israel. Then the giant snake came close to me as 'it' saw I was struggling with its subjects. It used its tail to tie my hands and was stretching my hand as if it wanted to tear me apart.

One day like that... When boko boys where shooting at my sports car, while shouting Allah is the one true god..! I just told them that I worship the "Holy one of Warri"...hmmm.. No be small thing.. I saw them literally shiiiting blood on the spot. They fell down and died.

Apatheist: You expect Christians who think cockroaches are from the pit of hell to understand?

You no lie at all...the other day someone very close to me said ants were demonic. That demons take different shapes... Smh...talkless of snakes...

Lovless: I don't even know any more. I'm pretty much on the fence.

It's sad that our culture is gradually fading away and it hurts me a lot, However, there are some customs and traditions that are just way to primitive and barbaric that they should be done away with completely. No one should dictate how some else should live his or her life. Stuff like marrying off young under aged girls to some middle aged man is just inhumane and disgusting. This is the 21st century you either evolve or die.

But other things like language, attire, (humane)festivals, e.t.c should all be preserved and built upon. Personally I believe we should stop blaming westernisation for all our problems. The white people enlightened us after all. If not for them, we would still probably be killings twins and doing all matter of other inhumane acts. Though sometimes, I wish they hadn't even set foot here since civilizations tend to evolve with time, its not like they didn't engage in barbaric and inhumane practices in the past; They came way to early. If they had just left us alone we would have eventually evolved at our own pace. However, If that had happen, I probably wouldn't even be here typing this.

Personally, I think it is very sad that Nigerian History isn't taught in schools. The little Nigerian history I know is from reading articles on-line and from the stories my grand parents told me. Bringing it back would definitely have an incredible Impact.

I see you mean well, but you err.

Marrying off under age girl is not an African culture or tradition in today's Africa. It's Arab. Most child marriages in Nigeria are linked to Islam or poverty.

Killings of twins was limited to Calabar Efiks. Mary Slessor stopped the killings of twins in Calabar Efiks not the whole of Nigeria. Twins are seen as a gift from other tribes.

Therfore, white man did not enlighten your ancestors.

nora544: What I write is the answer what you write before or you forget this.

In your reply, it states the CURE from generational curses is repentance. Repent from what..? I thought Christ died for your sins.. What are you repenting from.

In addition, if any christian prays for forgiveness or repents from sins, That means he/she acknowledges the generational curse of Adam.

My first statement holds.. All Christians are generationally cursed..

nora544: The Bible mentions “generational curses” in several places (Exodus 20:5; 34:7; Numbers 14:18; Deuteronomy 5:9). God warns that He is “a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me.”

It sounds unfair for God to punish children for the sins of their fathers. However, there is more to it than that. The effects of sin are naturally passed down from one generation to the next. When a father has a sinful lifestyle, his children are likely to practice the same sinful lifestyle. Implied in the warning of Exodus 20:5 is the fact that the children will choose to repeat the sins of their fathers. A Jewish Targum specifies that this passage refers to “ungodly fathers” and “rebellious children.” So, it is not unjust for God to punish sin to the third or fourth generation – those generations are committing the same sins their ancestors did.

There is a trend in the church today to try to blame every sin and problem on some sort of generational curse. This is not biblical. God’s warning to visit iniquity on future generations is part of the Old Testament Law. A generational curse was a consequence for a specific nation (Israel) for a specific sin (idolatry). The history books of the Old Testament (especially Judges) contain the record of this divine punishment meted out.

The cure for a generational curse has always been repentance. When Israel turned from idols to serve the living God, the “curse” was broken and God saved them (Judges 3:9, 15; 1 Samuel 12:10-11). Yes, God promised to visit Israel’s sin upon the third and fourth generations, but in the very next verse He promised that He would show “love to a thousand [generations] of those who love me and keep my commandments” (Exodus 20:6). In other words, God’s grace lasts a thousand times longer than His wrath.

For the Christian who is worried about a generational curse, the answer is salvation through Jesus Christ. A Christian is a new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17). How can a child of God still be under God’s curse (Romans 8:1)? The cure for a “generational curse” is repentance of the sin in question, faith in Christ, and a life consecrated to the Lord (Romans 12:1-2).

If the answer is salvation through Christ. Where in the bible was the sins of Adam forgiven..? If salvation is through Christ, why do Christians still pray for forgiveness..?

If faith in Christ and a life consecrated to the Lord releases you from the curse, do you still pray for forgiveness of sin? If yes, why.?

do you acknowledge the existence of sin? If yes. Where did sin come from?

Since the new testament is the real deal, do you still reference the old testament as the word of God? If yes.why?

alienYOUTH: History is only relevant if it helped achieve a laudable Today.

The height of conscious buffoonery. Is this the enlightenment you gained from condemning your ancestors...? Tufiakwa.!!