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Enigma, you are one of my people I respect on this forum & I'm subject to my fellow Christians here less I become 'untouchable' as even some are saying here and other thread.

Honestly, you, Enigma, have not or never offended me here or else where on another thread by 'combating' what I'm saying, rather, giving me more openness to further explain as some had taken the whole thing out of context and more took it personal. I can understand it troubles and to some, sounds heretic and I'm also in fight against error.

I do appreciate you all concern that I don't fall or remain in error but I also need you all to reason with what I'm saying and MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT I WILL SAY IN MY NEXT INTENSIVE REPLY AGAIN.

Okay bro Enigma, I will answer in details and also address your question but you should have the response by tomorrow or so, at work now and busy just typing from phone.

I have read all your comments plus people, some among us Christians that I expected to maturely understand but I clearly understand now, where the problem is, or coming from.

For all and those who do not understand (slow in understanding) the context of what I have been saying, but have been saying I will go to hell even on other threads, I will deal INTENSIVELY with this subject again. But this time, when you read me next, make sure you understand. Next you read my post here, dont read with 'religious' or 'biased' mind....hopefully, you will understand the whole context of what I'm saying.

I know this is disturbing a whole lot of folk's theology but, you will be alright soon. I'm at work now, I will address where the CONFUSION is coming from.

Thank you!

I have read what 'some' of you are saying about me, my teachings & 'personality'. I will comment on details later when I have time to do so intensively. Well, I know where some of the problem is, some are out to slander WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THE WHOLE CONTEXT OF WHAT I SAY. Some are slow to understanding since we do not ALL understand on the same page even we all read the same passages of scriptures. I will comment intensively later.

Godliness with CONTENTMENT is a great GAIN.....I can never be poor in my life and my wealth will never come by fraud!. . . and quote me o, I be Yoruba o but I no dey do fraud o, never!

^ This is not to flatter you but to encourage you the more in Grace. ^ By the above, you carry a message of Grace for this generation. I encourage you to soak more into 'manifold' Grace buried in the New Testament which was a shadow of the Old like you mentioned. I believe you carry something for this age and generation. Sitting now & relaxing to be refreshed by God's Spirit. Thank you for the article, God bless you.

alexleo: My dear sister this is why am also being very careful in whatever i bring out here(though sometimes too I act foolishly in my reaction to posts) and this is why i keep saying that we all will be judged by whatever we teach. If one gives out a false teaching, he ll suffer for it at the end of the day and am not ready to face the wrath of God. I no get strength for that o.

^ O boy, you det fear God wrath too much o ^ Anyway, perfect love cast out fear

alexleo: Lets keep praying for one another with the love of God in our hearts. I believe God will continue to perfect our ways as everyone of us keeps praying for everybody. Let our interactions and discussions here not be only argument based but also backed up with PRAYER for God to direct us aright and direct those you are interacting with aright. That is the difference between the christian's learning style and that of the unbeliever. Thanks.

^ Well said ^ Na me dey remember you pass o...in my prayers, jokes asides. Anyway, we'll meet when I come home na No let Ijawkid hear o, I no wan see that small pikin called Ijawpikin wey like to always disturb you hear o...when I come 9ja o

frosbel: The Religious pharisees, Tithe addicts , Prosperity preachers , eternal torment lovers, WOF followers , MOG worshipers , RCC people & etc , are now running scared, changing IDs to confront us anonymously

This spirit of bravadoism is uncalled for, they should be MEN and own up.

Another BOMBSHELL! GBAM! The way these bombshells dey land eh, I pray it doesn't land and explode on 'someone' head o

^ ^ Decoded & well understood! Thanks sister.

frosbel: Back to your point, I share all my discoveries, revelations and knowledge here for all and sundry to discuss, review and conclude , but this is not done in the office of a teacher, rather as a layman and a very small fry in a big pot of Christian 'fish'.

GBAM! That's the bombshell! Let those who have ears hear & let those who cannot reason scriptures be running around polluting threads without any sound debate.

JeSoul: Funny comments on this thread

Ever since I was able to comprehend James 3:1, I have been terrified of being a "teacher" of the Word. May all those who strive to be teachers/preachers of the Word solemnly & cautiously & prayerfully - with the right amount of trembling as well - consider this verse:

James 3:1 "Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly."

If that doesn't just scare you into thinking carefully before you post (teach), then you need to check yourself!

So na the reason(s) why you dey fear to teach be that abi, Huh? No wonder I dey notice say you been dey always pam for one side... The best teachers are those who make mistakes and\or error and learn from it. God doesn't throw anyone into judgment because he\she made mistake or error but 'living' in error. Teaching shouldn't scare you if you are called to teach. Yes, you can mis one thing out of sincerity not by deliberate. It still doesn't mean you are not a teacher; it simple means you operated by the amount of information available to you at your search. Hence, that scripture is not to scare anyone who is called to teach ma ....it's just a simple decode to live by what you teach

frosbel: ^^^

God has commandments .

He wrote the 10 commandments .

Those Laws are now written on our hearts .

We obey them through the Spirit .

If we cease to walk after the Spirit we break God's Laws.

You're right here but to point of but few. The God who wrote the 10 also set aside the 10 in Hebrews. When he re-presented or re-surfaced it to Christians. It was resurfaced as the law of Spirit of LIFE in Christ Jesus. It's beyond 10 now for Christian but the bedrock is LOVE undiluted. Yes, walk in the Spirit..of life, in Christ Jesus and you shall not fulfill the LUST of the flesh....breaking his laws, not of Moses now but law of the Spirit of life.

Before some folks here starts to mis-understand me, this is not to teach lawlessness o. We are not under the law of Moses but under the Grace. The law of Moses is rules by (law of) sin & death but Grace is ruled by (law of) the Spirit of LIFE, in Christ.

^ Frosbel, my post edited. I removed the part you said I said you teach....~over statement~ Kindly edit yours also. Thanks

frosbel: Oh yes, I was just about to say we are saying the same thing, albeit in different ways.

Love is the fulfillment of the LAW.

Peace

Christians obeying or following the 10 commandments ALONE because Moses said so is wrong. There are many things that is sin that Moses did not mention in those 10 minus the 1 called Sabbath and many of say because Christ is the Lord of the Sabbath. If Christ is the Lord of the Sabbath, isn't he also the Lord of the remaining 9s?

This 'love' that is the fulfillment of the law...of Moses is what is deposited on our heart at new birth. It's like the breathe we breath. It's the very life of Christ. It doesn't bear false witness, doesn't commit adultery\fornication, doesn't kill, cheat, slander, hate etc. It is fulfillment of the life of Christ BEYOND a stipulated 10 figures - 1. Do you get the point I'm driving at?

frosbel: 1. You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and the great commandment. And the second is like it. You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and Prophets" (Mat 22:37-40);


2. "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ" (Rev 12:17).

Brother,

Relax and take time to read the article I presented up there. All your references to Matthew 22:37-40 was discussed therein. It's like you haven't gone through the article yet though. Take your time bro.

frosbel: " You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts." - 2 Corinthians 3:3

Once written with ink , now written by the Spirit of GOD on our hearts as :

Correct! What is written on stones brought death and condemnation and what is written in our heart came by the new birth which is by the Spirit of the living God. That is, we become a living carrier of the new law of love unlike stone that is a non-living thing.

frosbel: "This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time," declares the LORD. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people." - Jeremiah 31:33

Regarding the underlined, kindly explain, My LAW , which LAW ?

Again, 'my law' didn't specify it was 10 minus the 1 which some said is the sabbath and gives us 9 to follow . The 'my law' is the 'love' that when is in your heart, you're not going about thinking of hurting another person, lying, killing, committing adultery, bearing false witness.....etc.....after the manner of Moses. It graciously flow from your heart because Grace doesn't follow Do's and Don't, it lives the life of God and God is love.

Do you get it?

frosbel: ^^^

Okay , later.

For now ruminate on this :

"For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome." - 1 John 5:3

" And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love " - 2 John 1:6

Now, you're talking. I've been saying love is fulfilling the law of Moses. It seems you didn't read the whole article I posted. Sinai is abolished and Zion is presented to us. The commandments that is mentioned here doesn't specify it to be '10' commandments but when part of the '10' re-surfaced to us, did it re-surfaced because Moses said so or because 'love' said so?

frosbel: So we are no longer under the Law of Sin and Death pertaining to the Letter and the flesh , which was not able to meet it's requirements, but under the Law of Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus who by his sacrificial death and resurrection has fulfilled the LAW enabling us to obey it by grace through faith .

Every time you use that phrase, 'pertaining to the letter and the flesh', there is nothing like that. The letter is actually the 'law' itself given to Moses. It doesn't refer to the things written in black and white as in following what is written in black and white; no, it is following the 'law' itself.

^ Okay, good. I showed you in the beginning of the article where the 10 commandment is the covenant....which was refered to as the first covenant between God & Israel and done away with...in the book of Hebrews. I will await your reply on though.

@ Frosbel,

Yes, you words makes biblical sense but you didn't answer the questions according to my numbering if you really want to. Lemme me make it plain and simple here, I'm out here to kill the spirit of the law of Moses in the church of Christ so that Grace can find its root. There's is too many mixing up, you too mixed things up in your reply and did you take time to read my article at all? Grace and law of Moses keeping (in the spirit of Moses) doesn't co-exist; it must be cast out.

This is what Christ and the Apostles did. Christ fulfilled the law of Moses and that means there's nothing for us to fulfill it is already fulfilled by Christ. What you see represented to us in the resemblance of the 10 commandment is not because Moses said so. That's the point I'm trynna let people see. What Moses said was all fulfilled in Christ. The reference to it as mentioned to the New Testament church is NOT for us to do or don't in the spirit of Moses because it will always lead to death because it was called the law of sin & death.

These laws of Moses that re-surfaced to us as Christians did not re-surfaced because Moses said so or because it was given to Moses but because it is hanging on love and God is love. In love is life and this life is the life from Christ and in Christ. As a matter of truth, following those laws or remixing or redefining them (in the spirit and\or consciousness of Moses) still makes us a sinner,

New Living Translation (©2007)
Rather, I am a sinner if I rebuild the old system of law I already tore down. Galatians 2:18

Hello my beloved brother Alexleo,

God bless you for this thread. It is our desire that we all grow in Grace of our Lord Jesus. I will make my points in numbering order to contribute to this thread.

1. There are many things like you said, might not be 'specifically' mentioned as they are today in scriptures but one thing I have always mentioned & consistent with is, the word does doesn't contradict the Spirit, that is, the Spirit bearing witness to the word of God.

2. There're things that are clearly made plain and specific to us and there shouldn't be argument on those things. But there are things that are buried and it is our responsibility to search it out, if not all but the ones that are searchable.

3. Aside of things plainly stated and not arguable, there's are also things we shouldn't mix up. When I say openly here that I'm a new testament teacher student of the word according to the Grace given unto me, not knowing all; it is not because I do not study the Old but because I have found or discovered an immeasurable wealth of Christian walk in the New Testament. Many people mis-understand me when I said that but it doesn't mean I don't study the Old. In fact, how to I understand the New if I don't study the Old? It doesn't make any logical sense at all.

4. What I found out in Christ in the New Testament is what I'm presenting to my generation. That is, the Old testament is the Christ that the New talked about. The gospel is in the Old but what kind of Gospel is it? It is a hidden Gospel that is now revealed in Christ - The law and the prophets were all pointing to Christ and fulfilled in Christ. Also, I have always maintained, there's a big problem on ground in the body of Christ and that is many (over 90%) of worldwide Christians are re-mixing or redefining the law of Moses and presenting it as Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ but scriptures says both of the cannot co-exist. That's why I fight the law of Moses like Apostle Paul so that Grace may find its root in the lives of believers and Christians. ~ I will need you also in that thread created by Frosbel addressed to me on the Moral Law ~

5. When we re-mix or mix things up like mixing the law & Grace together, then we have the problem we have on ground together. It bothers me more than it does to you things like not wearing trouser by women, not wearing make-ups, tattooing because these things are specifically written to the Jews and it doesn't apply to Christ. Scriptures clearly says whatsoever is written in the law of Moses only applies to those it was written to, the Jews. Now, the same scriptures says Christ nullified all those laws in his flesh and made out of Jew & Gentiles ONE NEW MAN....this one new man is the Church, which is the body of Christ. When we don't understand that Christ doesn't Lord over his church with the laws of Moses, then we are in big problem and I wonder when we will solve our own problem.

6. On the issue of self-service, I don't know if you're aware and even recent, I had stated here openly also that it is a sin. It is not 'specifically' mentioned in the New Testament but word study had revealed that. Those who critize me for holding to Strong's concordance do err because not everything we need Strong's concordance for. It's needful to find out what 'what' exactly means.

7. On the issue of the recent 'fornication', well, I gave my stand out of my study. I believe strongly fornication is a sin against God only within the context of its meaning which I gave a wide range of meanings beyond what religions says it is. We are not the ones to define what a word means when we present the word of God just like we have a circular dictionary that defines word in our English use. I cannot just wake up and say, female means someone with someone with a male organ I will have to follow what is proven in the circular English dictionary. So is how my stand came about on the issue of fornication. Now, I might be right or wrong but I do not find the meaning that 'religion' had given to it in the context of my study. I believe religion expanded the meaning. Perhaps, if I do, I might change my stand. Many people here thinks I exalt or elevate Strong's concordance more than necessary. That's a mis-conception of thought as it is very clearly I don't do that every time I quote any scriptures; I only refer to it when controversial topics arises and do word studies for clarification purpose. I have used this same method to clarify some controversial issues & it was accepted on this forum but if this one is not accepted, let everyone seek more clarification and allow the Spirit to bear witness or throw it in the trash.

8. Well, on the issue of smoking is not sin; Pastors buying jets; Tithing is wrong; There is no eternal torment; Abraham is not the father of Christians and others, I believe you didn't mention 'all' though. These are all subjects we can reason out and debate strongly as we have all done here in the past and might still do in future. Knowledge is progressive.

9. You're a loving brother as I'm beginning to take personal interest in you reading some of your posts and comments. Please keep it up. The Grace (not the law) is sufficient for us all if we lean on it.

^ It is my full awareness that you are a re-definer of the law of Moses and I can understand because over 90% of Christians worldwide are like that, mixing the law and Grace together to redefine the law of Moses but these questions for you first,

1. Did Jesus hand picked ONLY the Sabbath out of the 10 and became LORD of the Sabbath ONLY to fulfill the Sabbath OR he fulfilled 'all'

2. Are the 10 commandments part of the Old covenant of Moses with Israel?

3. If the 10 is part of the Old covenant of Moses, could it also be part of what Hebrews says is set aside?

4. What does the scripture Galatians 4:30 says we should get rid of or cast out?

5. If the law is a shadow, can we say then "thou shall not kill, thou shall not commit adultery" and the rest of the 10 aside the sabbath is ALSO A SHADOW AND NOT REALITY?

Willzkid: The only reason why this thread dragged for 5pages, the only reason why everybody has been calm and diplomatic on this thread is because LORD GOSHEN, THE SWEET-TONGUED (NAY SUGAR- COATED F.INGERED) 2012 RELIGION SECTION POSTER OF THE YEAR, SELF PROCLAIMED NEW TESTAMENT TEACHER, BIBLE AUTHORITY, AND CHIEF PROPONENT OF THE BIBLE-REWRITING MOVEMENT IS INVOLVED...As I said on this thread:
https://www.nairaland.com/1240428/christians-abraham-not-father, Brother Goshen, knowledge puffeth..
To all who know the truth but are afraid to match Goshyen's word power, clout and popularity, if your gospel be hid, it is hid from them that perish, or are on the way to
Thank you Sis. Alwaystrue for standing for the sanctity of the gospel

^ ^ This bros don wound me o ^ But Knowledge cures illiteracy you know # e-hugs

^ Thank you. ^ Also replied.

^ Did you get my email sir?

Enigma: @Goshen360

If a man and woman commit to one another and decide to marry, then start sleeping with each other, then something happens and they do not get married?

How do we look at the situation?


Later on, if either of them finds another person and they too decide to get married, can they start sleeping with one another?

Bear in mind, that I am very aware of the difficulties of interpretation of both the Greek 'porneia' and the English 'fornication'!

^ Well, the bold in RED is the reason why some\many thinks I teach error on this subject. However, to your question, I covered that in my first response as quoted below.

Goshen360: [size=3pt]Now my stand on 'fornication'.

Religion had defined fornication as sexxual activity between singles (unmarried) ONLY while adultery as sexxual act outside of marriage other than your spouse. That definition is FALSE! We will go into adultery as we go along but let's limit it to fornication as per the OP.

My stand from my study is, fornication is or includes a whole range of sexxual misconduct not connected to single\unmarried persons ONLY but includes married person(s) who engages in adultery, incest, idolatry, lust, harl.otry or who.re\wh.ore.monger(s), pros.titu.tion, best.iality, homo.sex.ual\lesbia.nism etc depending on the context as used in scriptures.

Now, a single\unmarried person CAN commit fornication depending on any of the above mentioned that he\she engages in BUT the whole definition and meaning of 'fornication' DOES NOT APPLY TO OR EXTEND TO two committed singles who are 'faithful' to one another, committed to marrying one another, love one another and intend to spend the rest of their lives with one another having sort approval from both parents even though they haven't gone through the 'ceremonial' or 'formalized' wedding yet.[/size]

CAUTION: Before it gets to this stage, ONE MUST BE ABSOLUTELY SURE THIS IS THE MAN OR THIS IS THE WOMAN FOR HIM\HER otherwise, such will be committing fornication by the act of being a who.re or a who.re.mon.ger. [size=3pt]This is because, the act of truly being married is already concluded in their heart and the marriage is just a mere ceremony as the prove of what took place in their heart. I believe God who sees the heart already sees them as married just the ceremony to formalize them. Hence, I do not see these two people committing fornication as the definition and meanings of fornication from scriptures does not extend to them. That's my stand and we can begin to expand on the above. [/size]

^ If you 'understand', JeSoul had given you an answer and I followed up with an advice.

Brothers & Sisters,

Well, to be very sure and clear, I do not endorse Okeyxyz's stand\position on "having sexx with anybody" as that will constitute fornication by the act of who.re.\who.re.mon.ger(s) from the meanings I presented - I'd made my position clear enough on this matter. I don't think anybody should mis-interprete my position with that of Okeyxyz's stand.

Some\many of you here are against my stand, as that's okay & fine by me but none did proved otherwise. Many of us knows what we know because that was what was told to us and held to be true. I have given my stand on what I have taken time to search out, if it comes to you as my error, it is up to you to reject it as error because you believe so and hold on to what you're sure to be true.

Thank y'all

^ Brother, just preach your message, it will get across and leave the rest to God to perfect it, front page or not. That's the best you can do bro.

So, when you read scriptures like the below that the OLD COVENANT IS CANCELLED, then you\we know or understand what is cancelled, abolished and done away with.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:...In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. - Hebrews 8:7-8, 13

New Living Translation (©2007)
Then he said, "Look, I have come to do your will." He cancels the first covenant in order to put the second into effect. - Hebrews 10:9

There're many scriptures that point to the 10 commandments AND THE ALL OTHERS AS THE OLD COVENANT but to avoid too long epistle, I'll stop with the ones already given above. You may ask, are we then permitted to kill, bear false witness, steal etc etc because we are NOT under the law of Moses? The answer is NO! We DON'T kill, bear false witness, steal, commit adultery etc etc NOT BECAUSE IT WAS GIVEN TO NATIONAL ISRAEL AS WRITTEN ON THE STONE BUT BECAUSE IT WAS WRITTEN IN OUR HEART OF FLESH AS INSTRUCTION/COMMANDMENT UNDER THE OUR NEW COVENANT. WE DON'T DO IT BECAUSE THE OLD COVENANT SAYS SO BUT BECAUSE IT'S A FULFILLMENT OF OLD THAT IS EMBEDDED IN OUR NEW NATURE AND COVENANT ROOTED IN LOVE.

New International Version (©1984)
The commandments, "Do not commit adultery," "Do not murder," "Do not steal," "Do not covet," and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: "Love your neighbor as yourself." Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. - Romans 13:9-10

Apostle Paul here in Romans 13:9-10 ^ simply recalled what our Lord taught concerning the ten commandments in Matthew 22:36-40. In other words, as and by the new nature in Christ, the love of God and love for our neighbours flows in our lives as believers under the new covenant, you will NEVER think of sleep with another man's wife or husband, you won't think of stealing, killing etc etc without the consciousness of the law as written on stones to Israel but with the consciousness of LOVE nature that now flows within you as a Christian.

The End

We've seen that Moses spent 40 days and 40 nights in God's presence. What would he be doing for that period that long ONLY to receive just 10 commandments? NO! ALL (Moral or 10 commandments, civil and ceremonial laws) things spoken and given to Moses was given to him as a UNIT or as a WHOLE within that 40 days and nights. It was given TO ESTABLISH A COVENANT and to be observed AS COMMANDMENTS between God and NATIONAL ISRAEL. Hence, ALL that God said was a commandment, NOT just what he wrote on stones.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the hearing of the people: and they said, All that the LORD has said will we do, and be obedient. - Exodus 24:7

You'll notice the phrase changes here from 'tables of stone or tables of the covenant' to 'book of the covenant'. Originally written on stones by God but had now being translated or written into book.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
These are the commandments, which the LORD commanded Moses for the children of Israel in mount Sinai. - Leviticus 27:34.....This mount Sinai was where he was for forty days and night, receiving the ten commandments and ALL OTHERS AS A UNIT OR AS A WHOLE.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And the king stood by a pillar, and made a covenant before the LORD, to walk after the LORD, and to keep his commandments and his testimonies and his statutes with all their heart and all their soul, to perform the words of this covenant that were written in this book. And all the people stood to the covenant. - II King 23:3.

There's no such teachings from scriptures that MORAL laws (10 commandments) are different from ceremonial or civil laws. Those who teach such are simply confusing Christians to still follow SOME parts of the law of Moses hereby placing them under a curse because if you must keep or observe the law of Moses, you MUST obey or observe ALL or NONE, else one is cursed.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
New Living Translation (©2007)
I'll say it again. If you are trying to find favor with God by being circumcised, you must obey every regulation in the whole law of Moses. - Galatians 5:3

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. - James 2:10

Does anyone in the Old Testament refer to the 10 commandments specifically separate from the rest of the law and ordinances after they were given? Are the 10 given any priority above the others? I challenge anyone to find such a teaching, because they were ALL given as a whole or unit called the law of Moses, just as they are referred to by Jesus. When the law (singular) is referred to in the New Testament, it is taken as A WHOLE and whenever is it plural, it is taken as parts - It's the same things given together to Moses which is called the law(s) of Moses.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
For the law (SINGULAR) was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. - John 1:17

to be continue...

The following scriptures clearly says, the 10 commandments IS the old covenant.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And the LORD said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel. And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the TEN COMMANDMENTS. - Exodus 34:27-28

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even TEN COMMANDMENTS; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone. - Deuteronomy 4:13

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
When I was gone up into the mount to receive the tables of stone, even the tables of the covenant which the LORD made with you, then I abode in the mount forty days and forty nights, I neither did eat bread nor drink water: And the LORD delivered unto me two tables of stone written with the finger of God; and on them was written according to all the words, which the LORD spake with you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly. And it came to pass at the end of forty days and forty nights, that the LORD gave me the two tables of stone, even the tables of the covenant. - Deuteronomy 9:9-11

Here we read the 10 commandments IS the Old covenant and it is between God, Moses AND NATIONAL ISRAEL, not WITH the church of God. Alright! Let's move on. Now that we've seen the old covenant is the 10 commandments, then we need to see if the whole law (of Moses) was given as a WHOLE or in parts on different basis?

to be continue...