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Christianity EtcRe: Expository Bible Study Course – Raising Bible Bereans In The Body Of Christ. by Goshen360(op): 5:04am On Mar 18, 2013
The true child of God has a longing to know the truth of the Bible. He needs to learn how to study the Bible for himself. This is vital! Our philosophy of Biblical education today appears to be what could be called "spoon feeding". The believer depends on his pastor, Sunday school teacher, or writer of a book to feed him spiritually. However, preaching, teaching and reading books about the Bible should be only part of one's spiritual diet as secondary. Each child of God, in addition to being taught by others; that is by the ministry gifts in Ephesians 4:11-12, should be able to study the Bible and learn the truth for himself. Modern disciples of the Lord Jesus should be able to go to God's Word and spiritually feed himself and be able to defend his convictions from Scripture.

The emphasis of expository Bible study is in verse by verse examination of the Word of God within every context. By using this method, after your study is complete, the correct interpretation and application of the verses will become clearer and\or come alive to you. You will be less likely to impose YOUR meaning on the Scripture or a meaning that is not correct. You will be letting God interpret His Word and you will understand what God truly said and meant as at when the words were penned down by God's breathe.

As you read this material - pray, ask God for strength, and for wisdom. Then make a personal commitment to put the amount of time and dedication into this study that will allow God to shape you into a more useful servant. Remember, this method is not easy or quick. It is not a short-cut to Bible training. It will require time. Before you begin, realize that this could be the turning point in your becoming a better, more skillful Bible student. It could have eternal benefit in the souls and lives of the ones God sends your way!

All Christians are teachers. We teach at home, work and in daily routines of life. Some Christians have the privilege to teach from pulpits; some in classes such as Sunday School and in Bible Study classes. No matter where you are teaching this method will be of help to you (See II Timothy 4:2). This is a practical, hands on, course designed to develop Bible Study skills by raising Bible teachers in the body of Christ in the way of Bible truth and learning how to research expositorily, a verse or passage of Scripture.

The objectives of the method are:

1. To teach how to study and correctly interpret the Scriptures.

2. To build confidence in one's ability to understand the Bible and to teach others.

3. You will be studying passages of Scripture in detail to decide what they are saying under the guidance of the Holy Spirit that teaches truth. Please note, for the Spirit to guide into truth, there must be the task of 'studying'. You cannot learn something when you are not under the tutoring\teaching of someone - in this case, the Spirit of truth. John 16:13 parallels 2 Timothy 2:15 and also parallels 1 John 2:27, New Living Translations

4. You will learn how to start and build a good Bible reference library.

5. False and\or erroneous teachings will gradually be exposed and corrected in the light of the truth.

Finally for this lesson two, like italo mentioned about many Christians or as a matter of fact, most who teaches contradictory teachings claim to have the Holy Spirit and yet, our teachings are not one still. We must understand the test for the spirit that the Bible talks about for the end-time because many deceivers are gone into the church already. Truth will always AGREE from Genesis to Revelation.

In accurate interpretation of scriptures, Matthew does not contradict Genesis and Luke's Gospel doesn't contradict the Epistles of Paul or the General Epistles. All scriptures must agree. Therefore, it is our diligence by studying and\or careful examination of scriptures with the Spirit of truth that enables us come to accuracy. Moreso, the revelation of God's word is complete in Christ and canonized. Every accurate interpretation will ALWAYS agree with the written word that is already canonized in the Bible. If it doesn't agree and progressive from beginning to the end, it is not probably accurate and such need a more careful examination.
Christianity EtcRe: Expository Bible Study Course – Raising Bible Bereans In The Body Of Christ. by Goshen360(op): 4:26am On Mar 18, 2013
Lesson Two

THE OBJECTIVES OF THE EXPOSITORY BIBLE STUDY METHOD

Many books have been written on the subject of how to study the Bible. This method's value is that is teaches the expository method of studying Scripture, which focuses on an exegetical investigation of the Bible and teaches the individual how to study the Word of God for himself.

The expository method of Bible study seeks to present truths, concepts and principles that are taught by a Scripture passage. It does not "impose" a meaning on a passage, but seeks God's meaning from the passage. The basis of true expository Bible study is a thorough "exegesis" of the passage. In exegesis, one seeks to investigate the literal meaning of each word of Scripture. The definition of each word is considered with its relationship to the other words in its context. ("Context" refers to the verses before and after a verse and involves the environment, situation, and background in which you find a word or verse)

All this accumulated information will help you to determine the correct meaning of a portion of Scripture. Knowing the meaning of a passage will enable you to discover the spiritual truths God wants revealed and their practical application in life. At the heart of this study is the Biblical truth of the "verbal plenary inspiration" of Scripture. The doctrine of "verbal plenary inspiration" teaches that every word of Scripture is inspired by God. God used human writers who He directed through the Holy Spirit to record His Word. Under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, they wrote what God wanted without error. What they wrote, in the original manuscripts was exactly what God wanted to say.

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works." (2 Timothy 3:16-17)

"For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." (2 Peter 1:21)
Christianity EtcRe: Expository Bible Study Course – Raising Bible Bereans In The Body Of Christ. by Goshen360(op): 4:17am On Mar 18, 2013
italo: The eunuch was reading scripture but did not understand. How did he understand? Did he use other scriptures to interpret the one he was reading? No!

He turned to the Church - represented by Philip.


If the Ethiopian could not understand "unless someone explained it" to him, do you think the Bereans would have understood the scriptures they were "searching everyday" on their own? NO. They would never have understood it without the guidance of the Church - represented by St Paul.

The Eunuch and the Bereans never "let scripture to interpret scripture." They understood scripture through the guidance of the CHURCH.

But then, I suspect this point of mine will be "PENDED" too.
Please correct me if I'm wrong or misunderstood your words here. One the other side, the church was the Roman Catholic. On this side, the church is REPRESENTED. These people (Paul and Philip) are part of the church of God as you rightly said in which Ephesians 4:11-12 comes to play before the scripture was completely canonized.

Also, like I keep saying and this will be stressed in the next lesson, there is place for the ministry gifts which Christ gave to the church. The case of Apostle Paul and Philip is one of it and the revelation being progressive then. The Bereans system is what we are doing with this Bible course - to learn how examine what is being taught.

Yes, you're right - Apostle Paul taught the Bereans BUT what did the Bereans do? They examined and searched the scriptures TO FIND OUT IF WHAT APOSTLE PAUL TAUGHT WAS THE TRUTH - How to do that, like the Bereans is what we intend to embark on with this course. I hope you balance both sides and NOT just say we should turn to the church or ministry gifts alone; we MUST be able to search out the truth for ourselves and see if what the ministry gifts teaches is truth or mixed with error.
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Correct A Few Century Old Biblical Mis-interpretations by Goshen360(m):
@ Obadiah777,

There's gonna be a water baptism in Harlem river next Sunday, you care for baptism by immersion? After Harlem baptism, we do another in Hudson river. grin
Christianity EtcRe: I Want To Correct A Few Century Old Biblical Mis-interpretations by Goshen360(m): 4:54pm On Mar 17, 2013
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Christianity EtcRe: Catholic Idol Bites The Dust by Goshen360(m): 4:31pm On Mar 17, 2013
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Christianity EtcRe: Neither Wine Nor Strong Drink by Goshen360(m): 2:36pm On Mar 17, 2013
^ ^ ^ Chei, O boy O Boy, you no good o shocked Which kind upper cut be this naw? Anyway, but na true you talk sha o. grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: WHY Didn't You Go To Church Today? by Goshen360(m): 2:31pm On Mar 17, 2013
Okay....because I'm the church and a church CANNOT go to church when he\she is the church in the first place. grin How about that? grin cool tongue
Christianity EtcRe: Where The "Churches" Are Getting It Wrong ... by Goshen360(m): 2:17pm On Mar 17, 2013
^ Yes, we need to know what that membership due is before I can comment. Is it that they collect dues for being a member of such denomination or what? I need to know what it is please. Thank you.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor E.A Adeboye Uses "Oga On Top"in His Prayers Today!! by Goshen360(m): 2:15pm On Mar 17, 2013
If you ask me, na who I go ask? grin cool
Christianity EtcRe: If U Re To Take A Snapshot With Either Barack Obama Nd Daddy Adeboye, Who....... by Goshen360(m): 2:13pm On Mar 17, 2013
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Christianity EtcRe: Is The Drinking Of Alcohol Even In Small Quantities A Sin Against God? by Goshen360(m): 2:12pm On Mar 17, 2013
Well, I don't want to be drawn into this argument of drinking alcohol or not and whether is a sin or not BUT first, what is sin and what are things the scripture says is sin? If you know what sin is and what scripture calls sin, then you can say if drinking alcohol is a sin or not. You can do that assignment for yourself first.
Christianity EtcRe: Expository Bible Study Course – Raising Bible Bereans In The Body Of Christ. by Goshen360(op): 2:08pm On Mar 17, 2013
Okay, @All

# Student return back to class and take their sit #

Taking a look at the situation on ground at the moment, we shall suspend all back and forth argument. We shall use knowledge acquired from this course at the end to address issues raised by our brother italo or we can open another thread towards addressing the issue.

This course is just beginning and we have more to learn. The mention of allowing 'scripture illuminate scripture' is just the first mentioned step towards arriving at accurate truth and that led to this back and forth argument. Thank you all students for keeping the argument cool and mature. It's okay for us to argue\reason scriptures together but in a mature manner and without insult.

2. What is taught here is subject to scrutiny like the Bereans examined what Apostle Paul taught them. That was how they checked and balanced false teachings then. We must do same here and from what we learn in this course, I want to spread it radically and passionately. The Grace of God is available for us to do such.

3. I will demand us all to be 'open-minded' towards learning and not holding traditions while we wanna argue or reason the scriptures. When a point carries weight more than what you believe and it's being proved, the ideal thing I will expect is for each one of us to take it cool and re-visit the topic and consider other heavy argue being presented. That's how we can learn when open minded and hold unto the truth of God's word.

Hence, we have one pending issue to discuss AFTER the completion of this course and we shall engage all things learnt to address the pending issue. Should there be another issue arising against as we go along, if it turns another argument back and forth; we shall also pend it if we can't resolve it on time. I hope this makes sense for us to continue.

Class continues tomorrow.

Thank y'all.
Christianity EtcRe: Tithes And Offerings by Goshen360(m): 1:42pm On Mar 17, 2013
Zikkyy: From your quote, even work is a law. In a way you have succeeded in solving the issue between Goshen & Ola, while Goshen is saying Abraham exercised faith, Ola is saying Abraham actions were the result of response to Gods law. and the bible tells us the Abraham's relationship with God was based on faith, and you Jo, say faith is a law. So we can Abraham's actions were responses to the 'law of faith'. Its a simple issue with a simple solution grin

So conclusion: Goshen360 is very much on track while Olaadegbu is very much confused angry it obvious Ola is attempting to add his own laws for Abraham to comply with. and its too late for that now, Ola cannot force a dead man to comply with his laws. Ola will have to visit the other side to get Abraham to comply with his (Olaadegbu') laws grin
WORD-FULL you are, my dearest brother! God bless you.
Christianity EtcRe: Tithes And Offerings by Goshen360(m): 1:39pm On Mar 17, 2013
Zikkyy: What is ya source for the above? Where in the bible did God made a tithe covenant with Abraham & his seed? angry
We have been asking this same question for only God knows when. We haven't got an answer. Better still, where is tithing stated in the Abrahamic covenant? A wrong interpretation of scriptures will ALWAYS produce a wrong application. These people don't know what they talk about. Now, they are beginning to run to Abrahamic covenant and quote,

15Brothers and sisters, let me take an example from everyday life. Just as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established, so it is in this case. 16The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,”i meaning one person, who is Christ. 17What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. 18For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on the promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise. Galatians 3 >> New International Version

The promise and the covenant was simple - In thee and thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed and we read in the verses above, this seed is Christ being typified in Isaac. When people don't go back to context, they lift scriptures and bastardize\abuse it. Where is tithe in the covenant that cannot be set aside 430 years later and must be continued for Christians? When they make tithing a LAW for Christians and I've been saying, Abraham wasn't obeying any official law (of Moses) to receive God's inheritance; v18 says, "if receiving our inheritance depends on the law (of Moses), then it is no longer by promise and Grace. God's grace was what gave the promise to Abraham.
Christianity EtcRe: Expository Bible Study Course – Raising Bible Bereans In The Body Of Christ. by Goshen360(op): 1:04pm On Mar 17, 2013
Okay, @ all students in class,

All stannnnnnnd, take a break and go outside. Go get fresh air and come back to class AFTER 20 minutes. cool
Christianity EtcRe: Where The "Churches" Are Getting It Wrong ... by Goshen360(m): 12:56pm On Mar 17, 2013
^ How do you mean "membership dues"? Which one be that again o? shocked
Christianity EtcRe: WHY Didn't You Go To Church Today? by Goshen360(m): 12:53pm On Mar 17, 2013
@ topic and previous response.....lolz. grin
Nairaland GeneralRe: Happy Birthday To Meeee by Goshen360(m): 11:42am On Mar 17, 2013
Happy birthday sweerie, long live your blessed and royal heritage.

Signed,
Goshen & Team Goshen
Christianity EtcRe: Tithes And Offerings by Goshen360(m): 6:13am On Mar 17, 2013
Joe, long time. Can you help Ola show us the 'spiritual law' where it was given to Abraham....as to tithe or tithing that he was obeying?
Christianity EtcRe: Tithes And Offerings by Goshen360(m): 5:54am On Mar 17, 2013
^ ^ ^
I have always known you that you will always dodge my questions but for record purpose, I gave a clear meaning to the statement I made that,
Goshen360: Scripture says Abraham was NOT obeying ANY LAW during his time.....That covenant was between God and Abraham in his seed, Christ and NO law involved. There is NO law of tithing stated in the covenant of 'faith' between God and Abraham.
I later told you to always ask questions if you don't understand what I said and I explained further what I meant by that statement saying,
Goshen360: Abraham was not obeying Any Law during his time.....that's why you have to ask questions without being quick to jump at statement. That statement means, he wasn't obeying a law as in when the law was officially given to the children of Isarel through Moses. I don't have too much time to start quoting scriptures now from Romans to show what was behind my statement.
Here's the scriptural ground on which I was speaking when I said I don't have time quoting from Romans,

New Living Translation (©2007)
Clearly, God's promise to give the whole earth to Abraham and his descendants was based not on his obedience to God's law, but on a right relationship with God that comes by faith.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
So it was not by obeying Moses' Teachings that Abraham or his descendants received the promise that he would inherit the world. Rather, it was through God's approval of his faith.

Amplified Bible (AMP)
For the promise to Abraham or his posterity, that he should inherit the world, did not come through [observing the commands of] the Law but through the righteousness of faith.


Now, go and look up the meaning of law in the context of the verse you quoted, it simply means, INSTRUCTION(S). Again, if you're saying Abraham obey a law of God which I don't doubt the scripture you quoted, then tell us or find out what law it was that was given to him to obey. The last time I checked, every law is given on certain\specific INSTRUCTIONS.

Again,
Goshen360: I have always told you, when you study scriptures, please ask your teacher, the Holy Spirit some questions such as.....in the passage you quoted,

What is the 'my voice' that Abraham obeyed?
What is the 'my charge' that he kept?
What are the commandments\my statutes and my laws that he kept?
I said, he wasn't obeying any law (official law of Moses); you quoted a verse saying he obeyed laws. Then tell us, what exactly those laws are, you came back to say,
OLAADEGBU: The onus probandi is on you to prove what law Abraham obeyed if you insist that he wasn't obeying any law, tithing inclusive.

[size=3pt]You first made a blunder by claiming that Abraham was obeying no law during his time that it was all by faith and when I corrected this error you are now asking what were the specifics of the laws. [/size]

If you don't know what laws Abraham obeyed why would you be so certain that he didn't obey any laws of God regarding tithing?
Every laws are specific towards the actions needed towards obedience. I said, he wasn't obeying any law and gave clarification it was the official law of Moses but you said he was obeying the law (say of God), then what exactly are these laws? They must be specific and you need to find out. When you do find out, you can show us....if tithing is among that law. If not, then there is NO SCRIPTURAL GROUND TO MAKE ABRAHAM'S TITHING A LAW FOR CHRISTIANS. That's the simple things I'm teaching.

Good night!
Christianity EtcRe: Expository Bible Study Course – Raising Bible Bereans In The Body Of Christ. by Goshen360(op): 5:25am On Mar 17, 2013
italo: There is only one Church, one faith and one doctrine of our Lord, Jesus Christ (correct me if I'm wrong)

It is the duty of that one church to transmit God's one doctrine to the children of God and that is how it was for 1500years before the heretics came and turned everything upside down...now look at the confusion they have put you people.

The Church is infallible in its teachings because Christ has given the Church the Spirit to teach it the truth. That is why you believed that Mark wrote "Mark" and that it was inspired by the Holy Spirit. Because the infallible Church told you so. The Church wrote the New Testament and compiled the Bible and declared it the word of God in the fourth century...and you submitted to their authority.

1Tim 3:15 says the Church is the pillar and foundation of the truth.

That one church that was founded by Christ is the one that compiled the Bible in the fourth century...it is the same one that Luther broke away from in the 16th century to start this confusion...

That one church is the Catholic Church.
New International Version (©2011)
if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God's household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth. 1 Timothy 3:15


First, we are not here to deal with denominations. The name 'Catholic church' is a name of a denomination IN OR WITHIN THE ONE CHURCH OF THE LIVING GOD. To be fair, there's no mention of a denomination in that verse. It simple says 'church of the living God'. You're the one that SPECIFY a name that is NOT mentioned in that verse. How did you come to say that one church is Catholic is what needs to be explained and how you arrived at that interpretation deduced from that scriptures that it is CATHOLIC is what we want to read.

Second, like we started, if this is NOT private interpretation from you, what is it because you're the one constructing your own words into 'God-breathed' words......definition of private interpretation again,..."(of private) interpretation;" i.e. the writers of Scripture did not put their own construction (of words) upon the "God-breathed" words they wrote.

Third, and again, this course seek to teach and\or discuss how we can STUDY to arrive at the accuracy of the preserved TRUTH of God's word. Yes, you're right, the church, that is we, Christians are the pillar and foundation of the truth BUT how do we teach the truth? How do we preserve that truth which we are the foundation? If we are the foundation and pillar of the truth, how can we ensure falsehood is NOT build upon the foundation and pillar of such truth? That's what this course seek to discuss.

I started by saying or telling us the God's way to arrive at the accuracy of the truth, you disagree it is not 'scripture interpret scriptures' and I expected you to simple mention another point but you pointed us to 1 Timothy 3:15 and you said, that church is the Catholic church BUT that scripture itself NEVER mentioned Catholic church as 'church', you did. You need to just tell us how we can accurately arrive at the truth other than what I said and let's move on.

Thank you!
Christianity EtcRe: Expository Bible Study Course – Raising Bible Bereans In The Body Of Christ. by Goshen360(op): 5:01am On Mar 17, 2013
Bidam: Scripture tells us that we are to rely on the Holy Spirit's illumination to gain insights into the meaning and application of Scripture (John 16:12-15; 1 Corinthians 2:9-11).

It is the Holy Spirit's work to throw light upon the Word of God so that the believer can assent to the meaning intended and act on it.

The Holy Spirit, as the "Spirit of truth" (John 16:13), guides us so that "we may understand what God has freely given us" (1 Corinthians 2:12).
This is quite logical: full comprehension of the Word of God is impossible without prayerful dependence on the Spirit of God, for He who inspired the Word (2 Peter 1:21) is also its supreme interpreter.
Absolutely RIGHT PLUS the way the Spirit uses to teach is what the course is all about. This is a course on HOW TO LEARN BY THE POWER OF THE SPIRIT. The Spirit doesn't just drop the knowledge of the truth in us without a quest TO SEARCH OUT OR TO KNOW THE TRUTH.....for the Spirit to have a platform to GUIDE us into all truth. How shall we KNOW if we don't study or learn with the Spirit of truth guiding us? I will summarize your point at the end of this first phase when we're done.
Christianity EtcRe: Tithes And Offerings by Goshen360(m): 4:51am On Mar 17, 2013
OLAADEGBU: Not so fast, Mr grasshopper. You claimed that Abraham was not obeying Any Law during his time. And I gave you a biblical reference contrary to your postulation. What do you have to say for yourself?
Abraham was not obeying Any Law during his time.....that's why you have to ask questions without being quick to jump at statement. That statement means, he wasn't obeying a law as in when the law was officially given to the children of Moses. I don't have too much time to start quoting scriptures now from Romans to show what was behind my statement. Now, if you claim he was obeying a law of tithing, then show us where such law was commanded to him. I have always told you, when you study scriptures, please ask your teacher, the Holy Spirit some questions such as.....in the passage you quoted,

What is the 'my voice' that Abraham obeyed?
What is the 'my charge' that he kept?
What are the commandments\my statutes and my laws that he kept?

When you don't have answers to these questions.....you will only end up guessing and\or adding INTO God's word using educated guess. Again, can you tell us EXACTLY what the LAWS he kept was? Since you're quoting that to support tithing...if you're saying the law was to tithe, then show us where it was told to him.
Christianity EtcRe: Expository Bible Study Course – Raising Bible Bereans In The Body Of Christ. by Goshen360(op): 4:36am On Mar 17, 2013
Yooguyz: beatiful broda goshen, there's a great need on this forum with respect to bible knowledge but then i suggest that each day a passage of the bible should be posted and comments should be made on that verse
i would do my part to ensure that the thread sticks
We might need to start another thread for your suggestion - It's a good one! But, we want to use this thread to build up how scripture is to be PROPERLY INTERPRETED void of error and upholding\preserving the truth of God's word to say exactly what it meant when it was penned down. We wanna use this thread build the Bereans example to know HOW TO and what it takes to carefully examine scriptures and what is being taught in our places of worship and\or our preachers. So, kindly permit us to delve properly here. Thank you brother.
Christianity EtcRe: Tithes And Offerings by Goshen360(m): 4:26am On Mar 17, 2013
^ ^ ^ Okay, you teach that it was God's law that Abraham was obeying when he tithed right? KINDLY SHOW US SCRIPTURES WHERE GOD TOLD ABRAHAM TO TITHE OR WHERE GOD GAVE ABRAHAM THE LAW TO TITHE OR ABRAHAM WAS OBEYING THE LAW OF GOD TO TITHE? KINDLY SHOW US SCRIPTURES PLEASE. Thank you.
Christianity EtcRe: Expository Bible Study Course – Raising Bible Bereans In The Body Of Christ. by Goshen360(op):
italo: However, I disagree with your 2nd post saying essentially that the sure way to arrive at the truth is to "let scripture interpret scripture." While it is good to read a verse in context and compare and contrast it with other verses and passages, it is by no means a sure way of arriving at the truth.
Having time now, working from my computer and going back again to read; I found the 'problem' of holding the thread from here. Now, what is meant by 'allowing scripture to interpret scripture' is the only way God says the word can be VOID OF PRIVATE INTERPRETATION. That is, I cannot pick a scripture now and built on it BY EXPLAINING OR INTERPRETING IT WITH WORDS OF MAN'S WISDOM without using another scripture that explains how I arrived at the interpretation I'm giving to the former scriptures that one is seeking meaning to. For example,

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things. 2 Corinthians 6:10


How do I tell someone or interpret that Apostle Paul was poor yet making many rich? What kind of riches is it? If he was poor, how can he be making people rich while he himself is poor? knowing that no man can give what he doesn't have. How can someone make other rich without him being rich by himself? I cannot just tell people Apostle Paul was giving people money without telling them HOW I ARRIVED AT THAT INTERPRETATION THAT IT WAS MONEY PAUL WAS GIVING PEOPLE TO MAKE THEM RICH. Whatever, I say my interpretation is, THERE MUST BE THE SAME PHRASE THAT EXPLAINS WHAT I SEEK TO INTERPRET.....otherwise, that will mean PRIVATE INTERPRETATION as we already defined what private interpretation means,
Goshen360: The word 'interpretation' is the Greek word, epilysis and it means a loosening or unloosing. It conveys "to loose, solve, explain," and denotes "a solution, explanation," and literally, "a release". "(of private) interpretation;" i.e. the writers of Scripture did not put their own construction (of words) upon the "God-breathed" words they wrote.
italo: WHY DO I SAY THIS? - By saying "let scripture interpret scripture," what you are saying, perhaps without knowing, is 'instead of interpreting the first passage, let MY INTERPRETATION of the other verse(s)/passage(s) interpret the first verse/passage.'

That logic does not hold...nor guarantee you arriving at the truth.

Infact all those "churches" that teach contradictory doctrines claim to do that. They claim to put scripture against scripture to arrive at the truth...yet they teach millions of contradictory and differing doctrines.

WHY? Because they are putting, not "scripture against scripture" but 'their interpretation of scripture against their interpretation of scripture.'
No, that's NOT what 'scripture interpret scripture' means - It means allow a 'clearer' scriptures to INTERPRET or (loosen, unloose, solve, explain, explain and literally, release) the 'unclear' scriptures that one seek meaning for. It is on the basis of this that further explanations can build upon and the truth hold then proper application can follow. I think you missed the concept of this way of interpretation.

Scriptures DON'T contradict scriptures and it is our diligence to seek the meaning from another scriptures that compliments both scriptures and not contradict them. The scripture I'm using to explain the former is NOT my scriptures, it is a scripture that parallels with the one I'm seeking meaning to. Like I have given you an example from the above how we seek to find meaning to one scripture from other scriptures. That's what it means to interpret scriptures with scriptures.
Christianity EtcRe: Tithes And Offerings by Goshen360(m): 3:39am On Mar 17, 2013
OLAADEGBU: Christians tithe under the Abrahamic covenant. This is the covenant God made with Abraham and his seed. The seed is Christ and if you are of Christ you will not hesitate to give tithes and offerings in appreciation of what God has done for you.
Scripture says Abraham was NOT obeying ANY LAW during his time. It's all about faith which is where scripture says it is we that are of 'faith' that are of the seed of Abraham. How? Because Christ is the 'seed' promised and that was where that covenant that was before the law cannot be abolished according to scriptures.

That covenant was between God and Abraham in his seed, Christ and NO law involved. There is NO law of tithing stated in the covenant of 'faith' between God and Abraham. Hence, whatsoever is not of faith is sin. If tithe was part of covenant between God and Abraham, kindly show us and if not, there's not scriptural ground for making Abraham's tithe a LAW for Christians because it is NOT of faith if it is MADE OF NECESSITY or MADE OF A LAW FOR CHRISTIANS TO PAY TITHE MONTHLY.
Christianity EtcRe: Expository Bible Study Course – Raising Bible Bereans In The Body Of Christ. by Goshen360(op): 10:43pm On Mar 16, 2013
italo: Yes.
Okay. Back to what I started....allowing scriptures explain scripture, can you use another scripture to show us that the 'church' in the context or as used in the verse quoted, means SPECIFICALLY Roman catholic?
Christianity EtcRe: Expository Bible Study Course – Raising Bible Bereans In The Body Of Christ. by Goshen360(op): 10:12pm On Mar 16, 2013
italo: There is only one Church, one faith and one doctrine of our Lord, Jesus Christ (correct me if I'm wrong)

It is the duty of that one church to transmit God's one doctrine to the children of God and that is how it was for 1500years before the heretics came and turned everything upside down...now look at the confusion they have put you people.

The Church is infallible in its teachings because Christ has given the Church the Spirit to teach it the truth. That is why you believed that Mark wrote "Mark" and that it was inspired by the Holy Spirit. Because the infallible Church told you so. The Church wrote the New Testament and compiled the Bible and declared it the word of God in the fourth century...and you submitted to their authority.

1Tim 3:15 says the Church is the pillar and foundation of the truth.

That one church that was founded by Christ is the one that compiled the Bible in the fourth century...it is the same one that Luther broke away from in the 16th century to start this confusion...

That one church is the Catholic Church.
Goshen360: @ italo, kindly mention to us the accurate God's way to interpret so we can add to update plus examine it together.
@ italo,

Is your response above an answer to my question asked?
Christianity EtcRe: @Goshen360: Justification - A Discourse I'd Like You To Consider. by Goshen360(m): 6:58pm On Mar 16, 2013
shdemidemi: Thanks for the reply GOSHEN360. I understand u are not trying to encourage sin.
But what happens if 1 keeps commiting the same sin under grace.
First, I do not think a Christian SHOULD CONTINUE to commit the SAME SIN. However, if such begins to happen, such believer have allowed sin and flesh to rule and enslaved.

Such mind is dead and silenced towards the word and Spirit of God. Such mind has then been given as a reprobate to the devil. Such needs to seek the face of God and come to REPENTANCE.
Christianity EtcRe: Expository Bible Study Course – Raising Bible Bereans In The Body Of Christ. by Goshen360(op): 5:56pm On Mar 16, 2013
Following all contributions. I will put everything together later so we can be on same page.

@ italo, kindly mention to us the accurate God's way to interpret so we can add to update plus examine it together.

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