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In the New Testament believers are also called Sons of God but this is by adoption not referring to nature ( Rom. 8:14-15; Gal 4:5; Eph. 1:5 ). The Greek word teknon means born ones, meaning children who have a likeness of Jesus' character from a spiritual birth, by being adopted into His family therefore i.e. they are sons [children of God.]

Jesus is also called the Son of God it is used in a singular sense, not in the plural as sons being one of many, he being the only begotten Son ( unique one of a kind, no other like him). In the scriptures son simply means one possessing the same nature of something. Examples such as son of Abraham or son of man means one possesses the same nature as the subject named. The Greek word for son which is used for Jesus is huios. It is limited exclusively for him, signifying he is the son by nature not by adoption. When the word “Sons of God” are used in Genesis 6 and in the Old Testament; in Hebrew it is Bene Elohim, showing they are a special creature related to Elohim (God), not related to man. They are not referred to as the “sons of Cain” or the “daughters of Seth?”

When we go back to the Gen.6 account there are other terms that need to be considered. The title “daughters of men.” Some consider the phrase “the daughters of man” to be the daughters of the Cainites only. But this phrase does not name a tribe but is a general and all encompassing statement, leaving no distinction of any moral or spiritual kind, it is a general term that includes both Cainite and Shethite females, it is referring to females of the human race (Hebrew benoth Adam daughters of Adam) they were natural descendants. Also the term Nephilim (giants) in Gen.6:4 has an interesting history. Nephil means fallen one, ("im" at the end of any Hebrew word changes it to a plural, nephillim - fallen ones.) This does not mean giant, or monstrous in size but someone who possesses super human ability in strength and intelligence, not stature.

This word is taken from its root word of nephal and nephel which means to fall, abortion or untimely. In 250 BC. the Rabbis that wrote the Septuagint which is a Greek translation of the Hebrew scriptures. They changed the word Nephillim to giant, which is the word most translations currently have (giant in Greek gigentes implies earth born men of great stature Num.13:33 ). This was a significant change which has obscured the meaning even to today. While some contend they are still around in the time of Numbers the giants were not the same species of the Nephilim. Since the Nephils were not Giant in size but in strength, intelligence and ability. The only creatures that lived through the flood were 8 humans, no others. Some postulate that another group of fallen angels returned again , something which the bible never addresses and would need to if this occurred.

We find in the scriptures that angels have the ability to appear as men even though they are spirit creatures. They are able to perform numerous human functions such as eating food as in their encounter with Abraham in Genesis 18. They are able to perform other bodily functions as well, they can walk and talk among us in such a way that we may not be aware of them unless they reveal themselves, Heb. 13:2 “do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some have unwittingly entertained angels.”

The angels that came to warn Lot were mistaken for men and were sought out for homosexual use by the men of Sodom. Angels are also able to carry out God's plans on Earth by supplying food for man 1 kings 19:5-7 Mt. 4:11. They are able to execute God's judgment Rev. 7:1, 14:17, inflict punishment upon man Ez.9:1-8 Acts 12:23. There seems to be some change of substance that takes place on Earth that they can become physical, contrary to their original nature. So if they are able to possess a body of a man and can eat and carry out other functions then why not other abilities.

The term Son of God is never used of man in the Old Testament, only of angels. (Job.1:6,2:1, 38:7). The only exception is Nebuchadnezzar who said of the one who was in the fire with Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego, was like the Son of God” (Dan. 3:25). This was written in Aramaic and he was probably stating this from his Pagan perspective.

The term “sons of God” is used consistently for the angels in their unfallen estate, they are Gods sons because they were directly created by him. When the title sons of God is used such as in the passages of Gen. 6, Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7 it is exclusively used of angels who have access to God's throne. (this is a common Semitic expression ) We find that each time when the sons of God present themselves before God's throne (which is in heaven), Satan is with them. This shows that these sons are the fallen angels as God addresses Satan as their representative when they assemble. The vicinity of this meeting is in heaven, for Satan informs God that he has come to his assembly “from going to and fro in the earth.”

God questioning Job in his trial. Job 38:3-7 “Now prepare yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer Me.” Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding. Who determined its measurements? Surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it? To what were its foundations fastened? Or who laid its cornerstone, When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?”

Job 38:7 is clearly a reference to the angels united in harmony when they were created in reference to Gen.1:1. It is prior to the rebellion of the angels. Once again this term is used for angels and not man. When God created the heavens there was a time when all the angels were united and harmony existed in heaven. They were together in worship and service to God their creator this is taking place when the earth was first created before man is on it. There is also the Hebrew term of bene elim which is found in Psalm 29:1, 89:6 which means sons of the mighty, referring to man as a class of mighty beings (possibly a more general meaning to include the angels).

Throughout this article we will go through the pros and cons of each view and weigh out the evidence to see which view makes the most sense Scripturally. The two principal interpretations are, the term

Sons of god are the godly line of Seth (Sethites).
The other view is that they are fallen angels.

Their is no easy solution or quick answers to this question, both views have strong and weak points and good men are divided on the answers. The main scriptural argument for the Sons of God not being angels is the scripture Matthew 22:30 Jesus describes the Holy angels in heaven as not marrying, nor reproducing after their own kind.

This argument proposes that the Sons of God must be human because a sexual union between angels and humans is impossible and leans towards Greek mythology. Since angels are sexless this terminology could easily be referring to godly men (Hosea 1:10 you are sons of the living God ). It is a assumption, when God says “ sons of Elohim” that he is referring to the “sons of Seth.”

The main objection then is that angels do not reproduce sexually, however if we look at the verse more carefully we see Jesus stating that "the angels of God in heaven neither marry nor are given in marriage". He gives a specific location, which gives us only two alternatives. Because of where they are located it is a functional impossibility, or that he is referring to only the angels that obey God that do not marry. Either way it leaves open the possibility of this occurring on Earth and with the fallen angels that are disobedient to God.

What Matt.22:30 does specifically say is that angels do not marry. Marriage was given to generate new offspring. Angels do not have the ability to procreate among their own species. They may or may not be sexless, although they are in an invisible spirit form they are pictured as male, with male names Michael, Gabriel. They are also called sons of God not daughters. When they become visible they will usually appear as young men. God made an innumerable amount of angels simultaneously, he does not continue creating them, so they never increase or decrease in number.

Gen. 6:2-4: “That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also afterward, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”

The question of the mention of sons of God in Gen. 6 has always provoked much controversy. Did Angels actually co-habitat with humans, or were they the godly descendant's of Seth that took women from the ungodly line of Cain.

It has been the opinion of the majority of Rabbis that this event had actually occurred, and that they were indeed angels. Ancient rabbinical sources, and the Septuagint translators in the 3rd century before Christ all upheld this view. The early church agreed with this view almost to the end of the fourth century. ( Justin, Cyprian, Athenagoras, Eusebius, also Josephus, Philo, and Judeaus accepted this traditional view. While we should not let tradition be the final say in doctrinal matters we can learn from their statements why they considered this view. What changed this view is only speculated but it very well could have been from an anti supernatural out look.

Today there are many conservative scholars that hold to the view of actual angels. M. R. DeHaan, C. H. McIntosh, Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum, F. Delitzsch, A. C. Gaebelein, A. W.Pink, Donald Grey Barnhouse, Henry Morris, Chuck Smith. While we don't interpret the Bible because of their view, it is good to read why they have come to these conclusions.

The Hebrew word for "sons of God" is Bene elohim. This term for angels occurs four times in the Old Testament in the Septuagint version (the Greek translation of the Hebrew scriptures ) It's meaning is always used as angels of God, never of man. Most scholars believe this event describes a union between fallen angels who cohabited with human females. This unnatural occurrence of combining two different species resulted in a offspring of what is called 'giants' in the King James/N K J version and "Nephilim" in the New American Standard, and the English translation of the Jewish Masoretic text.

Infact, this topic so disturb me to the point I had to do many study on it. In my study/research, I agree that many "people" referred to the book of Enoch which even parallels with some exact word in Gen. 6:1-4. In fact, there are three (3) thoughts/interpretations to this subject namely:

sons of God = angels
sons of God = children of God (Godly descendant's of Seth)
sons of God = great kings and the likes

That makes me feel am not alone in this subject.

One of the questions people who supports that "sons of God = angels" are not able to answer is that: does angels have se.x organs to mate? Are angels male or female, they are neither. At a point, some even said, when God drove Adam and Eve out of Eden and place the Cherubims in the garden, these might be those angels in Gen.6:1-4 that "did not kept that place" according to Jude 6. 1 Pet. 2:4 did not mention their sin but Jude 6 did and their sins where two: they did not keep their first estate and left their habitation.

The other group said, when Jesus said angels dont marry. He wasn't saying angel cannot marry but that in ressurection, there is no marriage.

Now, if angels are spirits (And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire Heb 1:7) and Jude is telling us that they sin of the angels was that they "left their habitation". Can that be interpreted to mean these angels left their bodily form? Because 1 Pet 2:4 tells us they sinned and if you look at Jude 5-7 and 1 Pet 2:4-6, THEY BOTH PARALLEL WITH EVENT LEADING IN THE TIME OF NOAH PLUS SODOM AND GOMMORAH.

Could all these be hints or keys to understanding?

For you are still carnal. For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving as mere men? For when one says, 'I am of Paul,' and another, 'I am of Apollos', are you not carnal? Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers through whom you believed, as the Lord gave to each one? I [Paul] planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the increase. So then neither he that plants is anything, nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase. Now he who plants and he who waters are one, and each one shall receive his own reward according to his own labor. (I Cor. 3:3-

What is causing the quarrels and fights among you? Don't they come from the evil desires at war within you? James 4:1 NLT

For where envying and strife [is], there [is] confusion and every evil work. James 3:16 Kjv

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Don't worry about that, go ahead and give your explanation as clear as you can about Gen.6:1-4. Okay.

Following the other thread, if you look up the word "giants" in the concordance or dictionary of the bible: "giants" as translated in KJV and "Nephilim" as translated in Niv/other translation means same thing which means "fallen ones" and the verb means "to fall" . It is NOT referring to "human size" BUT "fallen ones" as in nature. Will you consider this also?

nyameke: Dude sons of God in that passage meant angels.. and yes in the scheme of things we are all sons of God so Adam being called the sons of God is not the point here..

You have still not answered my question. Can you tell me how the conception of jesus came about..

Are also telling me based on pictures that you posted when a fallen human mates with daughters of men they would produce giant like humans because they are fallen? Wow the mind of certain people

My brother, "giants" in KJV and "Nephilim" in Niv means same thing. It is NOT referring to "human size" BUT "fallen ones" as in nature. Will you consider this also?

The conception of Mary is not by angels who are also spirits BUT by the member of the Godhead. They are two different things.

I "think" am taking side with "frosbel" on this matter because, the "sons of God" in other places might mean "angels" BUt NOT necessarily "angels" in Gen. 6:4. I "think" frosbel's teaching is going in line so far and I had to consult my study materials, none says the "sons of God" in Gen.6:4 means angels BUT ALL agrees that "sons of God" means angels in the case of Job.

Pastor Kun: No puzzle at all, i think you are just finding it difficult to accept what the bible says on this subject.

My brother, you know me too well. I will not back at what the bible says, as long as we can prove it. It's that I don't want to accept what the bible say but the fact that how "sons of God" means angels that later produced "giants" and giants as translated by Kjv is translated Nephilim is Niv and some others, and Nephilim means "fallen ones" as you can see me and nyameke agree on the meaning of Nephilim. This is what am saying. I hope you get my point.

ijawkid: so what is d point here...

Who really are d sons of God that came down to have relations with d daughters of men.....

I mean why wuld d bible say the ""daughters of men" if it was not to emphasize d fact that those men/sons were supernatural beings??

And who were those angels during noahs time that were thrown into tartarus??

Let's think!!

This puzzle no be small thing o. ~scratching my head bro~

So far, we have gathered the following,

One
Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. For [size=15pt]in the resurrection[/size] they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. Matt. 22:29-30

I want us to consider that the context of angels "not marrying" here as referred to by Jesus is "in heaven and in the resurrection". What about in earth and outside resurrection? do we have any text pointing to angels marry in the scriptures?

Two

frosbel: Angels appearing in physical form was in reference to the angels of GOD - Fact !!!

Man has a nature and that nature is human - point 1
Angels have a nature and that nature is spirit - point 2
Sons of God was never used to address fallen angels but the angels of GOD - point 3
Everyelse in the bible , the phrase sons of God depicts the saints - point 4

Three
If "sons of God" means angels in Gen.6:4 and their mating produced "giants" but "giants" as translated by Kjv means "Nephilim" as translated by Niv and some other translation and it means "fallen ones"...probably fallen from Grace which is being translated as "Apostasy"

I dey enjoy ALL of una o my dearest bible teachers.

That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. Gen. 6:2 Kjv

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown. Gen 6:4 Kjv

the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. (vs.2 Niv)

The Nephilim were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown. (vs 4. Niv)

Nephilim the hebrew word means "fallen ones". They were viewed by the people of old as "heroes of old, men of renown" but in the eyes of God, they were sinners (fallen ones). This verse doesn't say it was the "giants" as translated by KJV or the Nephilims as translated by NIV and some other translations THAT TOOK THE DAUGHTERS OF MEN AS WIVES BUT IT WAS THE SONS OF GOD. So it will mean that as these "sons of God" married the "daughters of men", the outcome were these nelphilims who are heroes of old, men of renown.

I don't know if am right about this? If am right, then these "sons of God" here will NOT mean angels, it will mean people that knows God that took wives from "daughters of men" because Nephilim and sons of God are "separate" entity in these context.

chivaley: Thanks for all the replies so far. I started this thread because I have also had dreams that came true or bad ones I had to pray really hard to avert. But one further question house: What are dream symbols? I've heard a lot about them. If you guys will be kind enough to list some you are aware of, it would be nice. For instance I heard worms and maggots depict illness, rats depict poverty and oil depicts annointing. Any insights on dream symbols?

I will post some/many dream symbols later. Got my hand full right now.

God2man: Why are you asking me this question? You know the answer already, except you want us to start an argument? Although i am ready to learn new things but I detest argument.

For your information read this; 2 timothy 3 :16-17 " All scripture(old and new testamnet) is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect thoughly furnished unto all good works."

God bless you.
God2man.

Okay. if you are ready to learn as I often learn from you also. I think you still haven't answered that simple question. And in addition to that first question, How do you understand this 2 timothy 3:16-17? Again, do you believe in NT or in OT or BOTH?

What do you understand by 2 tim. 3:16-17 ? We can learn from there. You are a brother with the Holy Ghost, you will know if am teaching heresy or not and we can learn from ourselves. No argument sir, Just learning and proving beyond "ALL" contradiction.

musKeeto: lol.. i thought you were aware.... still on ym?

Yes am on now.....goshen360@yahoo.co.uk, hit me now,lolz

musKeeto: As a former Christian, I hope I'd give some clues...

As long as
1. Everyone claims to hear from the Holy Ghost
2. Everyone finds a verse to back up his doctrine
3. The Bible remains contradictory in some cases and much open to different interpretations
This confusion will continue to go on... you all have to live with it...

frosbel: You of all people , lol.

So we humans can now interbreed with spirits , right

Frosbel, abeg make we cool dowm small please. There is something our other brothers are pointing to us and we need to consider that. They showed us many instances where angels manifested in "physical" form. Let's consider this and see if we learn from this to interpret Gen.6:2, Okay. Just follow the thread carefully. I think, "firebrand" is kind of making some Holy Ghost sense a bit.

Abeg cool dowm small, ehh my brother abeg cool down small you hear.

God2man: Here we go again, I have created a topic on this before, must we accept all our Pastors teachings?

How do we know the truth? Or how do we know the person saying the right thing?

For example, this brother has the holyspirit, he is well read in terms of scripture exposition, he said; tithe is forbidden or it has been stopped. Another brother, holyghost filled, very sound in Biblical teachings, he said; tithe is scriptural, it must be paid or given whatever. We now arrive at a crossroads, we do not know who to believe again. I asked the question must we accept all our pastor's teachings. The answer i got was that we should study the scripture and not interpret the scripture out of context.

Christians, where do we go from here?

Frosbel,Goshen360, what do we do?

God bless you.
God2man.

We allow Holy Ghost to solve the puzzle for us . Anyway, you (God2man) are my/our good brother in the Lord. There is what is called "sound" doctrine. It is a doctrine is proven and tested to be true. Apostle Paul said, "we know in part". I strongly believe in the Grace of Jesus Christ.

In order to answer your question, I will like to ask you some questions maybe 2 or 3 questions if you don't mind.

1. Do you believe in the New Testament or the Old Testament or Both?

buzugee: DENIAL IS A RIVER IN EGYPT

Abeg go use bible concordance or bible dictionary joor, u don start again, lolz

Pastor Kun: Just as i thought, most brethen would just wave off the Book of enoch explaination just becos the catholic church did not deem it fit to include in their canon which we inherited.

@Goshen
Why do you think the book of enoch is not true? Did you read the passage i posted? does it not shed more light on the Genesis 6:2-4 scripture in a much more detailed manner? Why raising all this hypothesis just to fit preconceived notions? We have enough evidence in the bible that angels appeared in physical form. i.e the two angels sent to sodom and gomorrah or even the angel Jacob wrestled with. What's so difficult in believing angels[sons of God] had a physical manifestation when it is stated clearly in scripture several times.

Yes, I read the passage you posted from the book of Enoch. I also read that angels manifested in "physical" form as a matter of fact as "men" in the case of sodom and gomorrah and even the men of sodom and gomorrah wants to mate with them. My concern is, those that manifested as "physical" form, was it because of "special" assignemt from God and those where angels from God that came after the account of this Gen. 6. Does the "sons of God" in Gen 6:2 also mean angels and it does, then it means they are fallen angels, probably those that left with lucifer after he rebelled against God. Another thing is, when God wiped out the earth with flood in the days of Noah (I also read that in that book of Enoch you posted), where did another giants came from in the case of the spies that was sent to spy Canaan Land. I am getting the flow though. I do not dispute the manifestation of angels in physical form.

buzugee: expanding on my point that the daughters of men are the female descendants of cain who had a mark put on him so he will be recognizable by anyone who sees him ' known as the mark of cain ' which is the removal of his melanin and hence creating the caucasian race. This is KJV

GENESIS 6 VS 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

LETS LOOK AT THE MEANING OF FAIR- THE FREE DICTIONARY a. Light in color, especially blond: fair hair.
b. Of light complexion: fair skin.

SO AS YALL CAN SEE, THE BLACK MAN HAS HAD A CONSTANT HARDON FOR THE WHITE WOMAN SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME. AS SCRIPTURE SAYS. ECCLESIASTES 1 VS 9 What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.

Noooooooooooooooooooooo, Buzugee, please stop this racial sentiments here please. I beg of you. "Fair" in that context is NOT talking about complexion and when did you start using eartly dictionary to interpret God's word? "Fair" in that context means beautiful. Please stop all these racial sentiment please. There is something we are ALL going to learn from this thread. Leave circular dictionary out of this context, that will interpret the word "carnally" please, am begging you. Bible dictionary is welcome. Thank you.

chivaley: Hi folks. How significant do you think dreams are?

Dreams are very significant in the last days. The last days began on the day of Pentecost. Take a look at this:

But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams. Acts 2:16-17 Kjv

So when the bible "This is That" and the reference is in connection to "the last days", it means the last days began on the day of Pentecost. And one of the tools by which the Lord will work when the Spirit is poured on all flesh is DREAMS. This is how significant dreams are in these last days. However, some (false teachers/prophets) are called filthy DREAMERS,

Likewise also these [filthy] dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. Jude vs. 8

chivaley: Can they tell the future?

YES, they can tell the future. In the case of Joseph. Also, the Lord showed me my future before I came to the USA. (My personal experience) and many more I might not be able to share here due to long story.

chivaley: Are they meant to help us ward off impending doom?

YES, In the case of Joseph escaping to Egypt with Jesus when he was born.

chivaley: Does God warn us through our dreams? Real experiences are welcome as well.

YES. It all depends the way God knows you will best understand a message He is passing across. Not everybody dreams to get a message though.

firebrand: Also who are these rebellious angels in chains according to the 2Pet 2;4 and what was their sins against God; Jude 1;6,7 shed more light on that, by saying the angels kept not their first estate, but left their own 'habitation'.

What does "HABITATION" mean to you in that context? Is it their dwelling place or their angelic form?

OLAADEGBU: The highlight up there is a good observation.

However, my 2 cent is that human beings were so demonically possessed and influenced by the fallen angels to experiment on genetic engineering so as to pollute the nature of man, just as these anti-christ inspired folks are now promoting back door Eugenics (through organisations such as planned parenthood), designer babies, the attempt at producing cloned humans and even the breeding of humans and animals are all inspired and influenced by demons from the pit of hell.

You are right my brother. I heard a similar news and these prompted my dig into the word of God. Jesus said, "as it was in the days of noah" meaning something like these demonic stuffs corrupting the nature of the believers and many stuffs like that - the sons of God mixing with the daughters of men. This is the main puzzle we want to solve here. WHO ARE THESE SONS OF GOD IN THAT CONTEXT OF GEN.6:4. Some say they are angels, some say they are children of God. we are still proving,lolz

firebrand: I think it is expedient for us to answer these questions;
-who are the sons of God in Gen. 6;4
-was there another rebellion after that of Lucifer aginst God in the heavenlies.

Firstly, the sons of God refers to the angels, Job 1;6 confirm this.
Satan did rebelled against God and the bible confirmed also that he was sent to this world and he is moving around looking for whom to devour, pending the day of judgement. The angels (sons of God) during the Noah's age were not destroyed nor spared by God but were put in chains till the day of judgement.

You are right my brother that the "sons of God" in Job 1:6 were angels. However, the use of the "sons of God" might differ depending on the context but where am finding hard time believing that "sons of God" in Gen 6:4 are angles is that fact that men already started calling on the name of God before Gen 6, they can also be refer to as "sons of God" and not necessarily angels.

Also, am trying to blend my knowledge with the fact that the book of Job was also written before the law of Moses (pre-law). This is where am finding a though time blending it together. Also, the meaning of "giants" or "nephilim" is different from our mere understanding. I will pull up the meaning from the concordance soon or later.

frosbel: When a church sets a list of doctrines which cannot be challenged , because they are allegedly based on the bible , this is akin to telling people that only the church can lead you into all truth and not the Holy Spirit.

Yet the bible says that as many as are led by the Spirit , they are the sons of God.

God even says if we need wisdom we should ask and we will receive it liberally. He also promised us his Spirit for a purpose, to bring all the teachings of Christ to our remembrance and to impress them on our souls so that we will take heed , obey them and teach others to do the same.

Yet, churches and many pastors are acting 'god' in the lives of many believers, preventing them from experiencing spiritual growth and progress, treating them like babes and not allowing them to exercise spiritual discernment.

Peter, an apostle told the believers to desire the sincere milk of the word so that they will grow, but our churches today tell us to desire the 'sincere' doctrine of their church that we may remain in their cult.

Another reason for the deception and why we are tossed around with every wind of doctrine is because we do not read our bibles, we do not meditate on the word of God, we do not seek his wisdom like we do for gold and silver or hidden treasures, instead we rely on the interpretations of men who may quote and twist a number of verses, usually , out of context to support their positions. Unlike the Bereans , we swallow it all, hook line and sinker.

We spend hours watching Television and expect to grow, we spend hours on the laptop watching videos that have nothing to do with God or salvation, we spend hours attending to earthly matters and we rely on others to do the donkey spiritual work for us , by attending church once a week to hear ear tickling sermons about wealth and prosperity.

No wonder many are deceived , and guess what , God said they deserve to be deceived, because they refused the love for truth, a strong delusion will be sent to them to believe a lie.

Brothers and Sisters, my advice to you is READ YOUR BIBLES , SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES , Ask God for Wisdom , ask for the Holy Spirit to open the eyes of your spiritual understanding so that you will properly divide the word of God like a good workman who will not be ashamed.

God bless.

In addition to the above, Christians NEED to prove ALL things and hold fast to that which is good.

I realized many Christians do not want to drop or change any unsound doctrines and teachings simple because it is/was preached/taught by their denomination and when they come to forum like this, they want to teach us (here) what they had been taught in their church instead of teaching what the sound biblical teachings says.

I gave my life to Christ in a church where they teach some unsound doctrines. I accepted then because I was a babe in the Lord then but as I began to dig deeper into the word of God by myself, I realized many things they taught that was wrong. I encourage every Christian to search the word irrespective of what your denomination teaches. It may take time but slowly and sure, you will know if your denomination is teaching the right or wrong teachings.

Church "A" will teach and say it is right, from the bible. Church "X" will teach same topic as taught by "A" and come up with different stuffs and yet na same bible we all dey quote from. What is the problem? Understanding and context. Often times, unsound teachings are taken out of context to fit the man-made traditional teachings. And no scriptures is of private interpretation. The bible explains itself by using one scripture to explain another. That is, what it means by "no scripture is of private interpretation"

Another thing is, since many of us had being taught some things in the past, we should try to READ INTO the word of God when doing our own study based on the things we had been taught in our denomination. We should empty the "old wine" from our denominational teachings in order to fill with the "new wine skin" of the teachings of the Holy Spirit. Empty yourself of what you had been taught and let the Holy Spirit teach you afresh. There are many study aid available online to also help look up difficult word in our study.

God help us all in Jesus name.

@ OP,

Buzugee is right. They are the same but used interchangeably. Some even use soul and mind interchangeably but the right usage should be soul and spirit depending on the context.

uhonmora: Personally, I do not see anything wrong in ladies wearing trousers as long as it's modest. As a matter of fact, there are certain occupations and sports where it would be more appropriate for ladies to wear shorts and trousers than skirts (think of women in the military, engineers who have to wear overalls for protection, female footballers, e.t.c). For some, trousers keep them warmer in extremely cold weather.

Any lady can wear trousers if she wants to as long as she's modestly dressed.

Would God damn a christian lady to hell just for wearing modest trousers? I dont think so.

Thank you and God bless you. This is the same message I have preached all through here and aside of modesty, the motives also. If a woman wear trouser to seduce a man, that is between her and God but if she wears it as a normal wear, I don't see the word of God condemning such and the word of God didn't call it a sin especially as it regards to our NT because the OT was given only to Israel but now, God is NOT working with ONLY Israel as a nation.

uhonmora: @Goshen:

I think Haibe believes that most of those laws have been done away with. His argument is that deut 22:5 being an 'abomination against God' makes it an eternally applicable law to both Jews and Gentiles alike. Just like homosexuality is.

Thank you but I have just shown him that the context says it is ONLY for ISRAEL. The "ALL" is for "all Israel". I have proved that from the same Deut 22 context. It's left for him (haibe) to still prove otherwise.