₦airaland Forum

Very unfortunate incident. May his soul rest in peace.
Anyone who knows should take notes. There are some things you observed and you don't know what to say.
How on earth should an armed man stays shooting his rifle in a place where there are people celebrating and not being under any attack.

Your family will get settled once you know that it is a great thing to know the roles of your mother from that of your wife.
The two of them are very important to your life.
Your wife came in when your life is made by your mother.
At the stage you are in life now, you need your wife to complement.
You are not doing anything wrong by wanting peace between the two of them.
However, when things start working against your family peace, take your time and find a way.

I believe you all are not living together under the same roof. Particularly your mother is not living in your home.
The mother in law and daughter in law only comes together once in a while.
Your wife should take heart and allow her mother in law to enjoying spotlight whenever occasion demands.
It's not too much for her.
She should have it in mind that very soon, she will have some ladies to contend with on her own son also.

MallamAhmed:
The only strength of the so called north is the lack of bond in south. Is itpossible for the north to defeat a united South?The answer is a capital no. Look the human resource are all in the south,the natural resource are in the south,we have arable land to grow our food. We have the sea and all the benefit acruable to the sea. We have a progressive mentality and we can boast of the most intelligent set of humans in the country. So tell me how the north can defeat the south. Even in a war the north cannot defeat the south because we can make better allies. So tell me why can't everyone in the south work together to achieve a better future for our unborn children.

True talk. There is strength in unity and understanding of people of like minds.

The time is now for southern Nigeria to arrive at a united point.
Otoge

Kerfuffle:
What has Nairaland become!

Everyone immediately launched into attacking the Prof without verifying his claim. The question should be, is the claim made by the prof true or not?

Sick individuals everywhere.

Yes, professor Akintola is not correct on this. No one is asking for birth certificate issue from church before you can be enlisted in to AMOTEKUN.

There is nothing more than Akintola playing up religion problem when there is none.

Yoruba Christians and Muslims have never been divided over any issues before the birth of this nonsense MURIC

Akintola is making himself and the organisation he is speaking for a divisive tools in Yoruba land.

Osagyefo98:
Osun state governor is a Muslim

Meanwhile Akintola raised a valid point here and I quote



I think this statement by inner caucus like akintola shouldn't be overlooked as it looks something is definitely fishy.


This Amotekun now looks like a tool of intimidation now targeted to non-natives in yorubaland.

He made a strong point there. So it may not be only fulani but others ethnicity may also be targeted.

One may not forget so early what happened in lagos during 2019 presidential election. An attack led by MC Oluomo.

No, AMOTEKUN is established to provide complementary security services.
It's especially important to know that AMOTEKUN will get at any criminal, Be it a Yoruba or wherever you comes from.
AMOTEKUN is not established to harass anyone who is a law abiding citizen, Be it a Fulani, Igbo or Yoruba
Professor Akintola is just playing politics and being driven by blind religious beliefs.
It's totally a great lie that AMOTEKUN handlers are canvassing for personnel from the church.

AMOTEKUN IS HERE FOR EVER. No retreat no surrender.
The police are the security guards of civilians populace in time of peace, when there is no war or any external aggression. Unfortunately, the police have been found wanting in this regard.
The problem of insecurity is escalating every day.
The police are not forthcoming with any serious solution rather than coming with more excuses.

Moreover, our own people are not save safe anymore both day and night in the farm , on the road and in townships.
The governors are supposed to be the chief security officer of their domain state, but the chief police officer of the state is not taking command from the chief security officer of the state.
Matters have changed from the time of peace and tranquillity to the time of peace and anxiety.
The problem has multiplied in many dimensions.
The chief security officers of south western Nigeria are loosening their people and property every day to marauders from a certain part of Nigeria.
Federal government is not responding.
How do we get out of this nonsense.
No serious leaders will not take action on behalf of the people they are leading.

There are many reasons why AMOTEKUN is very important in the south western Nigeria of today.
This AMOTEKUN outfit is for the people

AMOTEKUN is not for territorial control purposes.

AMOTEKUN is an anti crime agency.
AMOTEKUN is a complementary security unit for the police.
AMOTEKUN is not for political purposes.
AMOTEKUN is like a cultural outfit for the people of Yoruba race as we have the AGBEKOYA before.
Federal government should take heart and allow this AMOTEKUN to be.

Good family history for all to learn from.
From the patriarch Alhassan Dantata to Hallima Dangote, it's the story of success through constant love, education, sacrifice, steadfastness, good
associations and favour of God.

To those who are shouting government policy favours the family . They are not the only family that have enjoyed government favours.

To those who are talking about Dangote being a conduit pipe for thieving politicians, it is because of the success stories that have been made in the beginning. No one will want to get involved with a failure.

In all, the family is a case study on how to make wealth and happiness in a sustainable way for unborn generation.

Demaduka:
Fr Kelvin Ugwu MSP,
YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG OR MISCONCIEVED . PAYING MONEY TO A CHURCH IS QUITE DIFFERENT FROM PAYING MONEY TO A PASTOR. IT IS WRONG TO SAY THAT THE MONEY YOU PAID IN THE CHURCH IS MONEY YOU PAID TO THE PASTOR. BY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, IF YOU ARE A REAL FR. AS YOUR NAME SUGGEST, IT SEEMS THAT YOU USED TO CARRY THE OFFERING GIVENG IN YOUR CHURCH SAYING THAT IT IS MONEY MEMBERS GAVE TO YOU. IS IT RIGHT OR WRONG?

IF ON THE OTHER HANDS AN INDIVIDUAL DECIDES TO PACKAGE HIS OR HER JANUARY SALARY FOR A PASTOR, WHO ARE YOU TO DECIDE IF IT IS RIGHT OR WRONG?

The reverend father is very much right .

Openbusiness:
The US government already knew this because they had satellite cover over Iraq and Iran all throughout the period. They shot it down INTENTIONALLY, you have to be super naive to believe it was a mistake. They knew it was an Ukrainian airline, so the idiots thought, Oh it must he Westerners trying to flee Iran to avoid being stuck in the terrorist country before it develops to having a full blown crisis with America. These wicked terrorists were so stupid and full of wickedness they didn't even bother to check the flight manifest. They just shot it down thinking it was people from Western countries they were killing. See the picture below? Can you see the holes are pointing inside? Which proves it was an external force hit. If it was internal, the hole would be pointing outwards. That's a missile shrapnel tearing into plane during impact. That's why they rushed to the crash site to find the black box and they were hiding the black box to cover the truth. But unfortunately, America already had satellite evidence they fired the missiles that crashed the plane. And unfortunately for them 95% of the people on that plane were Iranians.

Good reasoning. You are very correct.
Self inflicted injuries, thinking they were hurting their enemies.

midnighter:
LOL please, don't make me laugh. So according to you:

- The Biblical reasons don't apply nowadays and the Biblical figures' lives are not relevant, yet somehow polygamy is Biblical.

-You stated that your issue is that people pick and choose which Bible verses to obey, and reject the old testament rules as being "of old", and now that the biblical reasons have been pointed out to you, you have disregarded them as "of old" and started making up your own rules, which is exactly what you were complaining about, Hahahha.

-Your mentioning of adultery and illicit sexual interactions, vulgarities and succumbing to base desires in order for women to get ahead is what God wants for Christians, despite there being no example of this in the Bible and no church on this planet preaching this.

-The people who propagated the religion to Africa are messing up, so you as a black man have to mess yourself up too, just to teach them a lesson or what

-The way a man is wired is different to a woman and that gives you the right to disregard Biblical injunctions and do as "nature" and your body tells you, when that's exactly what the Bible tells us not to do.

So basically the whole of Christianity is irrelevant as far as you get what you want hahahaha oh gosh!

I'm seriously laughing right now, oga go and marry your 10 wives abeg, let's see if any church on earth will agree to conduct the marriage hahaha

I am not planning or proposing to marry another woman.
The fact must just be put on the table

midnighter:
See? In the first place, you stated that polygamy has Biblical backing. Now that you've realised that it doesn't, you've written a whole post about adultery between single girls and Married men which had nothing to do with your original point.

If you were the biblical scholar you claimed yourself to be when you replied to my post you would acknowledge the difference between the roles and restrictions on women in ancient times as compared to nowadays and realised that polygamy has no place in modern society.

That's one of the first things that Christian ministers and teachers explain to people because it's so basic. it's only when Missionaries stumble upon remote communities with low literacy rates, access to agricultural technologies and antenatal/perinatal services that allowances are made for it in the 21st century.

Like I said, polygamy is not a crime in this country but if you want to do it, you go ahead with your own personal conviction without trying to force Christianity to justify it, because you can't! Have a nice day ahead bro!

My deviation from arguing on biblical beliefs is because you made mentioned of the reasons why it was justifiable in the old testament time of the bible.
And the point that those reasons are not forthcoming nowadays.
I am telling you that yes, the reasons why God almighty permitted polygamy in the days of old still remains but not as it was then.
My point remains .
1. It's biblical for man to marry more than one woman. No need to mention names of biblical characters whom christianity story revolves around that were involved with more than one woman.
2. The people who propagated christianity towards Africa are culturally not disposed to having two women at a time, but they are disposable to divorce and remarriage as many times as possible.
3. The way man is wired naturally permits his nature of wanting more than a woman . A man only needs to play his role of being responsible for his woman after he has performed his own role in ten minutes during copulation.
While the way a woman is wired is totally different from that of man. A woman is wired to bear the brunt of reproduction by being pregnant for nine months, bear the baby through pain and nurse the baby for a certain period before the baby starts to be responsible for anything.

4. Many women are going to be left wasting and unproductive if man stays to observe the principle of one man one woman which is a man made law.

Nothing spoils for man who chooses to marry more than one woman, he is only obeying the nature and helping the world.

midnighter:
Are you a nomadic agrarian? Do you need billions of children to help you farm your land and gather wealth?

Do you live in a time of war when there are drastically less men available to marry than women?

Is your population facing extinction?

Is there no other option for the woman other than to be sold into slavery or prostitution in order to stay alive?

Those were some of the reasons that God refrained from banning polygamy, and if you and your Number 2 do not satisfy those conditions then you are to be condemned, shekina!!!

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The system remains as of old.
Nothing has changed. The new system that warrants men to caters for more than one woman has changed from what was obtainable before.

Yes, people of nowadays are not farmers who needs battalion to works on the farms but the situation of the world today still demands that one man should be responsible for many ladies if you are comfortable and capable.

The fact remains that single ladies prefers married men as mutual and romantic friends. Particularly the single mothers who are facing serious discrimination from single guys .

Been a second wife doesn't mean being sold to slavery.
Bear with us o yee married women. There are too many women out there that desired and deserved to be married but partners are not forthcoming from the single guys due to economic issues.

The only way to survive is through friendship with the married men who are economically buoyant to care for their needs.

If all the married men withdraw from keeping another lady and been responsible for her upkeep, there will be big trouble in the world.

midnighter:
I didnt say God said it was not a good idea. I said that God has illustrated why it is not to be done with levity. When Solomon, Abraham and David married their extra wives, what now happened?

Just because it is culturally allowed or is "acceptable", it doesnt mean it is to be encouraged.

Cultural allowances were also made for slavery; does it make it acceptable

See, when an evil is taking place that is very entrenched in society, is it realistic to ban it completely or to put parameters in place to protect people as much as possible until your main purpose has been achieved?

Stop talking out of point to justify something that is not defensible. If you want to be polygamous then be it and stop trying to drag God into it to console yourself.

God did not construct the institution of marriage for polygamous purposes, deal with it! He only let people do that in the context of their social systems but always points back to His original plans for a man and woman in marriage.

Thank you. My problem with the people of today christianity is that they picks the doctrine deam fitting to suit them from the same old testament of the bible, while condemning another doctrine from the same old testament and saying it is of old.

I am a husband of one woman and not proposing for another one. Doe, taking care of another woman who need someone to help her situation.

But any other man who have the courage and willingness to be an husband of two or more women is not derailing , and should not be condemned as the Christians portrays it.

midnighter:
its not Biblical. Just because the Bible gives allowances for it for cultural reasons, it doesnt mean God wants it for Christians.

If you check the instances in the Bible where polygamous relationships occurred you will see that God was using scripture to illustrate why its not a good idea.

An ideal Christian relationship is between one man and one woman, nothing more, nothing less

You admitted that bible gives allowances for cultural reasons. What made it more acceptable than this.
There is no where in the bible where God says it is not a good idea.
Yes , in new testament, there are instances where Paul mentioned it in his epistles that man should be husband of one woman.
This does not mean the people of old testament that practiced polygamy are not on the good book of God almighty.
Let us know that every religion on earth today is a tradition and custom of certain people.

midnighter:
its not Biblical. Just because the Bible gives allowances for it for cultural reasons, it doesnt mean God wants it for Christians.

If you check the instances in the Bible where polygamous relationships occurred you will see that God was using scripture to illustrate why its not a good idea.

An ideal Christian relationship is between one man and one woman, nothing more, nothing less

You admitted that bible gave allowances for it, for cultural reasons. What made it more acceptable than this.

I don't want to start elaborating on this religion call christianity.
I want you to study your bible very well and understand it very well also.
Let us leave religion out of bible for now.

1kworks:
If what she was accused for is true, then I'd say she deserves the embarrassment she got.

There needs to be some kinda consequence for people who date married people (both males and females alike).
I believe that's the only way it will be curbed cos all these stories of how bad marriages are these days are scaring the shit outta the unmarried people who are eager to get married.

Remember that a man is entitled to two or more women as wives.
It's biblical, it's Islamic and our traditions and customs as Africans permits it.
Moreover, polygamous is natural.
Whatever anyone wants to say, you can not dispute all these facts.

Let every woman take notice, one man one wife is alien and man is just trying to conform where possible.

For those who are not bold enough to practice polygamy, let their wives know that another woman is somewhere sharing her man secretly.

Parablesonmarble:
Once is a mistake or a random act, twice is a coincidence, thrice is a pattern. Two earthquakes plus a plane crash and other classified occurrences shielded from the press around same place is a source of worry, especially at this time in Iran. Thinking back to the addendum I read in Michael Crichton's ' Congo', all these superpowers have been developing machines to influence weather and natural disasters since 1979. Hope its not what I'm thinking.

Your reasoning is not offline. The issue is more than we are looking at it

The battle has been taken to the next level. The natural level.
Powerful forces from the other realm are involved.

My advice for this OP is to let the majority carry the day.
Start planning your life now.
Let the peace and tranquillity you said is running among your siblings continue.

Kekereekun123:
only useless men have many kids from different wives. creating problems upandan

Noo, you are wrong. It's not a useless man that have children from different women.
It's biblical, it's Islamic and our African traditions permit it.
Moreover, it is natural.
How the individual that is involved in polygamous handle his team is what makes the difference.

I know a man with six children from the same womb who fought very dirty on their father properties in the present of their mother.

There is another man that died and left behind, 16 children from 3 women . With many properties and without a will.
For the past 12years the man died, his estate has been running well without any friction from any one among the wives and children.

How a man lives with his family when alive and prosperous make a big impact when he is no more.

There is no need for someone castigating a man because he is polygamous.

Monogamy is a custom of a certain people. It's good for those who can practice it.

This is much money for a wife of an army general.
What is the wife occupation.
Investigators have much work to do in revealing how the money was comes about .

PEACE PEACE PEACE. Let there be peace in the World.
Nothing will be gained from any war on any part of the world today.
My people, war is not what we think it to be.
Memories and history of war is only palatable to the people hearing or reading about it, not to those that witnessed the war.

God bless Nigeria. Religion is just a means of worship.
How many holidays declare by the federal government in relation to a particular religion is of no consequence to reality of the matter.
Both Muslims, Christians and the aboriginal society enjoy all holiday so declared.
Let us endure everything about religion.
Let us think about how we are going to get Nigeria into league of production lines

I think there are some mystery surrounding this ILE ARUGBO.
The speed at which everything about the land and the subsequent demolition was carried out made me to think that something is fishing.

The public can only make comments.
All parties who are not satisfied with what the government has done should approach the court for adjudication.
Let the Saraki's get another land and build another ile ARUGBO to continue the legacy of their father.

Nothing spoils, life continues.
The Saraki family should acquire another parcel of land, this time legally.
There, on the newly acquired property new ILE ARUGBO should be built and the family legacy will continue.

Happy new year to all nairalanders.
This story is very torching. However, the man was just relieving himself of stress. Only doing it carelessly.

The woman was also playing her role as a dutiful wife.
There are many ways to get relief without troubles of infection.
And where infections is detected, prompt treatment is the only option.
Naturally, man is polygamous and it remains like that till eternity.

festacman:
From time immemorial, one constant thing is that empires do not last forever. Narratives about empires are always told in terms of RISE and FALL.

O'toge movement set in motion the process of collapse of Saraki Empire, which had held Kwara people captive for tens of years, with marginal development. The popular "Ile Arugbo" under contention was a symbol of SUBJUGATION, where the owners of loaf of bread squat to receive mere crumbs of what belongs to them.

If Sen. Saraki is sure his father late Sen. Olusola Saraki really purchased that piece of land, he should simply approach a court of law with vital documents for adjudication.

The truth is that consequences come with the fall of every empire. Sen. Saraki should learn to live with these consequences while members of Jagaban Empire should do well to watch with interest.

God bless you more. Power is a temporary position for a certain time.
One time will definitely come when power will change hand.
How you handle affairs will definitely be scrutinised and if you are find wanting, you will be probed.
One day is the due date.

Reality. All these things are true reflection of our dear Nigeria today.
Me personally, i am a staunch supporter of Buhari from the time he declared to run for president in 2003 till now.
Unfortunately, the Buhari we thought we knew then is totally different from the presidency the present president is running.
Buhari has proven us his supporters wrong.
Buhari has not been able to put his words to action as the president of Nigeria.
We don't need to continue to deny what is glaringly happening in the polity.
Things are getting worse.
God help Nigerians

Government officials must always have it in mind that they are occupying a temporary position .
It's not a bad thing for anyone appointed or elected to be replaced by another qualified person.
Once you have a feeling of being on a temporary sit, you will definitely want to leave a good legacy behind.
Unfortunately, here in Nigeria. Politicians and their supporters always seem to believe that any office they are occupying either through appointments or election remains their birthright.
Until we change our mind over this seeing public office as a free purse where we can get money to run an extravagant lifestyle instead of being accountable to the public, we have a long way to infrastructural and social development.

This is not a problem that is new to any public sector where a new henchman is taking over.
It's pretty part of our systemic problem.
No policy continuation in our MDA.
New Oga, new policy.

Any little provocation will result in mass destruction today in Nigeria.
Tensions are rising to the point of revolution in the land.
All information must be received and digested very well before putting such information into the public domain.

Nothing spoils. Amosun is a great son of the soil in south western Nigeria.
One thing i want politicians to know and upload into their brains is that power is transient and not stable forever.
Whenever you are enjoying spotlight as a political leader, always remember when you will become an observer again.