₦airaland Forum

cooltola:
And so, Trump is still untouchable, you know the senators are not going to remove Trump from office whether the house Democrats impeach him. Many Americans love Trump. Trump will get reelected again, you know why because all the rednecks, the southerners and conservatives , anti LGBT folks, some Hispanics and even undercover black Americans who pretend to hate Trump but deep down love his policies will vote for him. This is the reality, many loves his policies and the way he does not send anyone and would not be surprised if he win the popular and electoral votes. Anderson Cooper, Don Lemon , the CNN or MSNBC hosts can argue about him from morning to night. Nothing go happen, because the Democrat do not have the Senate majority, the US economy is not bad, and there are jobs. If it was the other way around, then Trump might not get elected

Americans actually obey their constitution and laws more than we do in Nigeria. That is probably the only difference between them and us.

popsy2:
Even if Trump knew him, nothing stops him from claiming not to know him despite the glaring proof to the contrary. He can actually "unknow" him if he wanted.

If I say I don't know You, then I don't know you. It doesn't matter whether or not we were best buddies in the past. Lol.
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Really? And what type of logic or theory did you use to arrive at this absurd conclusion?

I find it curious that these people never said anything against the massacres that has been going on in the middle belt for so long. I can't understand why a security outfit to protect ourselves is generating so much interest from them.

Yaribanzaonic:
The Muric man Speaks the mind of 70% Yoruba Mudslems.
So if this is the tangent of your thinking, imagine when Nigeria divides and you have to directly contend amongst yourselves.
IFE and Modakeke will be Childs play.....be rest assured that people are more enlightened and this Amotekun issue will expose the in-house treachery associated with the race of "Sophisticated" vuvuzela noisemakers from the Soutrhwaste!

Who doesn't know 90% of your people are afflicted with delusions. If you are not Jews today, you are either from Mongolia or somewhere else.
Why wouldn't you project your idiocies on other people.

kiyosaki1:
As expected . The man never disappoints .Ass licking taken to another level . The fulani's have succeeded in dividing the Yorubas .

Only one misguided old stooge and the Fulani have succeeded in dividing Yoruba?
That man can only get a reaction by saying outrageous things.
Birth certificates from church? How dumb.

LandMann:
We all should put emotions, tribalism and ethnic hatred aside and examine this issue of Ametokun based purely on its merits and demerits and in light of existing laws.

The following points should guide us:

1. Internal security is an exclusive task of the FG. FG can give authority to state or local actors to improve security. Example; local vigilantes and some paramilitary organisation like Man o War must acquire police permission before operating... This is an example of FG giving other actors permission to act in improving security.

2. There's no federal law or agreement between federal and state outlining the activities to be covered by Ametokun, given the existence of police, nscdc and other existing internal security outfit... This agreement or law is important to avoid conflict between these organisations when issues of security occur. We're still dealing with superiority contest between FRSC, VIO, NSCDC, YELLOW FEVER, POLICE AND ARMY on our highways...

3. With no national law or agreement coupled with high level of illiteracy and unprofessionalism of most state workers, state governments can quickly start using Ametokun as instrument of oppression and a means of further looting state resources because security spending is often shrouded in secrecy, and even Ametokun members can take to crimes as side hustle when they start feeling dissatisfied with their salary. They have the training and the instrument of force (guns)... Who's going to prevent them from misusing both and how?

The above are just some issues worth considering.

If all the loopholes are properly plugged, then Ametokun can kick off.

We shouldn't cheer on the idea even with the obvious loopholes because it can quickly spread, every region can quickly have their own version of Ametokun and it won't be long before outside actors start smuggling weapons to these different regional Ametokuns and with the existing ethnic hatred, it won't take long before another civil war arises that will tear Nigeria apart and make current Libya and Iraq look like heaven compared to how Nigeria will look like.

We should protect our country, not our states or region or ethnic enclave.

There will be no need for Amotekun if some people have not taken it upon themselves to kill and maim fellow citizens for no reason.
Self preservation is the first law of nature, every other thing is secondary.

jimyjames:
Regional security outfit is not constitutional so if ipob is illegal amotekun is illegal

Ipob is an organization which openly threatened other Nigerians. They didn't hide their hate for Northerners or Yoruba people. They are a self proclaimed separatist movement. There's no similarity between them and Amotekun.

Cattle herders blackmailing the whole Yoruba people!

jimyjames:
Regional security outfit is not constitutional so if ipob is illegal amotekun is illegal

Civilian JTF nko? Hisbah nko? There's no law which says you can't protect yourself when people are being killed or kidnapped with impunity. If Ipobs want to make themselves the sacrificial lambs they are free to do so.
By the way, we will settle this in court.

jimyjames:
Shut up


You all were here clapping for python dance in Igbo land you enjoyed watching soldiers kill our people
What will you call that?

Amotekun will remain simply because it doesn't violate the constitution. It is a security outfit not a hateful and separatist movement like ipob.

Miyetti Allah trying to blackmail Yoruba people into making themselves a sitting duck.

jimyjames:
Hahahaha afonja cowards don buy market , let's wait a watch what Yoruba's will do


Is time for this verbal warriors to proof how good they are in war

Everything is an opportunity to exhibit your lack of decorum and bigotry.

Rubbish! This report is hilarious. Lol. I know it is made up but quite funny nonetheless.

SouthSouth1914:
Laughable! Sounds like aiding and abetting yahoo yahoo boys!!

Really? Rather than thinking about how to benefit from this, the only thing you can think of is Yahoo boys. The internet has created more millionaires and billionaires than you can ever imagine. And they are not criminals.

I respect him for being honest.

Words on marble. Africa should also embrace peace, education and modernization.
No country can bully China anymore.

DMerciful:
Everytime you people keep pushing GEJ's project as Bubu's own just to make it seem Bubu is working. Bubu has failed woefully!

Stop lying.

witsel4:
I didn't expect less from them anyway.
There's no way Russia will support the US, even if they are fighting for the peace of Russia they will still renege America.
It reminds me of that meme that says, even if you are selling Long life and prosperity, some people will not still patronize you. Because of envy and hatred.

Why then is Trump acting like Putin's lapdog? When the security agencies in the US said Russia interfered in the US elections Trump continued to point in another direction.

Ipob will represent Israel in the war. They are ready. Newly improved ogbunigwe intercontinental ballistic firecrackers are waiting to be used.

0monnak0da:
I think the point eludes you.
Cargo will pay more money than people.
How much can the Nigerian customer pay?
Is is profitable as a business
If it was your business would you prioritise low paying people




Truth is for people it would be too expensive for average people without subsidy.
Are we doing this for the right reasons.
Or so we can say we too have trains.
Almost all the inputs are imported
Paid for in dollars.
So we should expect similar pricing
The loans are in dollars

If the MAIN business is carrying people .

It will never break even . Will there even be money for maintenance

Minimum wage in Nigeria is what ?


A train journey to Ibadan should be about 10000?
How many can afford it

Do cargo trains use different rail lines? If the trains are going to carry only passengers why the need to link it with the ports in Lagos and the inland port in Ibadan?

shosky1794:
So it's no more GEJ, it's now Obasanjo. You guys are jokers

I assume you can read and understand what you read.
Obasanjo made the 25 year masterplan, each administration is just following the plan and doing their part.

Staro:
Oga, stop fooling yourself and displaying your ignorance in public.

The Lagos-Ibadan phase is part of the entire Lagos - Kano rail project.

The federal govt under GEJ only chose to break it down in phases for funding convenience.
The target was to complete Abuja - Kaduna first, then followed by Lagos - Ibadan.
Next phase is the Kaduna - Kano and finally Ibadan - Abuja

China has already agreed to execute the entire stretch from Lagos - Kano through a loan
deal while the FG only pays a token 10% as counterparts funds.

Buhari did not know anything about how GEJ and OBJ struck these deals with China.
He only inherited these projects and must continue them because China is too important to mess with.

The next president after Buhari will be duty bound to continue from wherever he stops.

I put it to you that you are a liar. Jonathan and OBJ? Did Jonathan and Obj participate in the same government? There was Yar' Adua between the two. How did you come up with Jonathan and OBJ?
You are trying to avoid saying the railway masterplan was not even Jonathan's idea! How dishonest.

sexiestharam:
Iran is fighting an audio war. They have been shouting since Friday yet no show. Are they afraid?

So many kids on Nairaland. You think this is a kind of street fight?

Staro:
Lol, some of you sound just plain daft.
Are you saying you were not aware of same Chinese rail project during GEJ tenure?

I mean, Abuja - Kaduna, Ajaokuta - Warri and Abuja Metro line.
So, you were not aware of massive work ongoing on those three rail projects during GEJ's tenure?
Intact, GEJ already completed over 99% of Abuja - Kaduna before handing over

How old are you or ... did you just start following FG activities only when Buhari became president?

First of all, the Lagos to Ibadan railway project was started under the Buhari administration. If you are not daft as you are trying to convince me then you will know that it is absurd to thank Jonathan for it.

We know when the contract was signed and when the actual construction started, all under Buhari. If you are not dumb then you should know that the success or failure of this project can only be attributed to Buhari's administration and not Jonathan.
I bet when the second Niger bridge is completed you will also thank Jonathan for it. If you are not a kid then I'm sorry for you.

chozzy:
Oga, Buhari is not funding the rail project.

Give credit to the Chinese instead for releasing steady funds (loan)

I can swear on my late father's grave that Buhari would not have completed
5kms in 3yrs if funding was provided by his govt.

You are right. After all we just found out about the existence of the Chinese just 3 years ago.

Privatepart00:
All thanks to Goodluck Jonathan our darling ex president

Yes, and we should thank him in advance for the second Niger bridge. And every other projects that are yet to be conceived by the Buhari administration.

israelmao:
Putting bounty on Trump's head is the most dumbest move made by Iran,some Americans may hate Trump but they will not stand to see the office of president reduced into disrepute or their president's live being eliminated by one run-of-the-mill nation.

Run of the mill nation! Such arrogance. Thank God America doesn't run the way most of you think. For all their faults they still respect basic decency.
To most commenters on Nairaland, the US can just get Iran squished under their powerful feet. They can, in reality but they won't.