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So na wetin Nnamdi Kanu and the Ipork piglets drink be dis wey dem dey shout upandan

I hope the fleeing family have not headed to the Southwest? We have enough troubles with cults here already.

Edumare bless you o

Sagay212:
Every body just talking trash about their region developing if Nigeria divides. If your region doesn't develop now, it will not develop when you divide. I do not just understand why people be acting stupid. All states have governors, senators, LG chairmen, councillors, etc. None of you internet warriors are bothered about the LG chairmen and councillors closest to you. You don't even bother to know them let alone ask them questions yet you believe a miracle will happen when you exit Nigeria. If Nigeria divides today, there will be extreme hatred all over between all tribes. All those making noise about their dream country developing if they exit nigeria should show us examples of how their region can develop while in Nigeria. Show us sample, let your leaders show us by developing your various states first before talking nonsense about their region turning to dubai if they get freedom.

Asari dokubo and other militants got rich and the next thing they did was to start having their investments outside of their region and even in other countries. Who is deceiving who?

By the definition of IPOB thugs, anyone who doesn't share their ideas and opinion is an Afonja whether he is a Yoruba, Hausa or Igbo Man.

Uwazuruike is now an Afonja. Mr MASSOB welcome to the club

The former Central Bank Governor, and Emir of Kano His Royal Highness Muhammadu Sanusi the second , surprised guests present at the Muson Centre for the launching of the book of Sir Olaniwun Ajayi.

Below is his unedited speech.

“Let me start by saying that I am Fulani (laughter). My grandfather was an Emir also fulani my uncle and guardian was also the immediate late Emir of Kano Alhaji Ado Bayero and therefore I represent all that has been talked about this afternoon. Sir Ajayi has written a book. And like all Nigerians of his generation, he has written in the language of his generation.

“My grandfather was a Northerner, I am a Nigerian. The problem with this country is that in 2009, we speak in the language of 1953. Sir Olaniwun can be forgiven for the way he spoke, but I cannot forgive people of my generation speaking in that language.

“Let us go into this issue because there are so many myths that are being bandied around. Before colonialism, there was nothing like Northern Nigeria, Before the Sokoto Jihad, there was nothing like the Sokoto caliphate. The man from Kano regard himself as bakane. The man from Zaria was bazazzage. The man from Katsina was bakatsine. The kingdoms were at war with each other. They were Hausas, they were Muslims, they were killing each other.

“The Yoruba were Ijebu, Owo, Ijesha, Akoko, Egba. When did they become one? When did the North become one? You have the Sokoto Caliphate that brought every person from Adamawa to Sokoto and said it is one kingdom. They now said it was a Muslim North.

“The Colonialists came, put that together and said it is now called the Northern Nigeria. Do you know what happened? Our grand fathers were able to transform to being Northerners. We have not been able to transform to being Nigerians. The fault is ours.

Tell me, how many governors has South West produced after Awolowo that are role models of leadership? How many governors has the East produced like Nnamdi Azikiwe that can be role models of leadership? How Many governors in the Niger Delta are role models of leadership? Tell me. There is no evidence statistically that any part of this country has produced good leaders.

You talk about Babangida and the problems of our economy. Who were the people in charge of the economy during Babangida era? Olu Falae, Kalu Idika Kalu. What state are they from in the North?

“We started the banking reform; the first thing I heard was that in Urobo land, there will be a curse of the ancestors. I said they (ancestors) would not answer. They said why? I said how many factories did Ibru build in Urobo land? So, why will the ancestors of the Urobo people support her?

“We talk ethnicity when it pleases us. It is hypocrisy. You said elections were rigged in 1959, Obasanjo and Maurice Iwu rigged election in 2007. Was it a Southern thing? It was not. “The problem is: everywhere in this country, there is one Hausa, Ibo, Yoruba and Itshekiri man whose concern is how to get his hands on the pile and how much he can steal.

Whether it is in the military or in the civilian government, they sit down, they eat together. In fact, the constitution says there must be a minister from every state.

“So, anybody that is still preaching that the problem of Nigeria is Yoruba or Hausa or Fulani, he does not love Nigeria . The problem with Nigeria is that a group of people from each and every ethnic tribe is very selfish. The poverty that is found in Maiduguri is even worse than any poverty that you find in any part of the South.

The British came for 60 years and Sir Ajayi talked about few numbers of graduates in the North (two as at independence). What he did not say was that there was a documented policy of the British when they came that the Northerner should not be educated. It was documented. It was British colonial policy. I have the document. I have published articles on it. That if you educate the Northerner you will produce progressive Muslim intellectuals of the type we have in Egypt and India. So, do not educate them. It was documented. And you say they love us (North) more than the south.

“I have spent the better part of my life to fight and Dr. (Reuben) Abati knows it. Yes, my grandfather was an Emir. Why was I in the pro-democracy movement fighting for June 12? Is (Moshood) Abiola from Kano ? Why am I a founding director of the Kudirat Initiative for Nigerian Development (KIND)?

“There are good Yoruba people, good Igbo people, good Fulani people, good Nigerians and there are bad people everywhere. That is the truth. “Stop talking about dividing Nigeria because we are not the most populous country in the world. We have all the resources that make it easy to make one united great Nigeria . It is better if we are united than to divide it.

“Every time you talk about division, when you restructure, do you know what will happen? In Delta Area, the people in Warri will say Agbor, you don’t have oil. When was the Niger Delta constructed as a political entity? Ten years ago, the Itshekiris were fighting the Urobos. Isn’t that what was happening? Now they have become Niger Delta because they have found oil. After, it will be, if you do not have oil in your village then you cannot share our resources.

“There is no country in the world where resources are found in everybody’s hamlet. But people have leaders and they said if you have this geography and if we are one state, then we have a responsibility for making sure that the people who belong to this country have a good nature.

“So, why don’t you talk about; we don’t have infrastructure, we don’t have education, we don’t have health. We are still talking about Fulani. Is it the Fulani cattle rearer or is anybody saying there is no poverty among the Fulani?”, he said.
LESSONS FROM THIS MESSAGE

Tribalism is not our problem. Tribalism and religion are artificial problems created by selfish leaders for their own personal interest.

There are only two major tribes in Nigeria. The Elites and the Masses. Once you make lots of money, you belong to the elite tribe. When you are a commoner or suffering, you belong to the tribe of the masses. If you are an elite, and you need more power, or elective position, you sow seeds of tribalism and religion among the masses, so as to sway their emotion for your personal victory. This happens at both the national and state level. Unfortunately, after the election when they have won and joined their “sworn enemies” to drink and party, the gullible masses continue to fight each other.

Even smart people who belong to the masses, sometimes will sow seeds of tribalism and religion among the masses, and then the masses will carry them up until they belong to the elite class. It is a classic strategy used over 3000 years ago in the art of war. A commoner who aspires to sit with the elites, could stir up powerful tribal or religious sentiments, such wave if properly utilized either by shedding blood or destabilizing the elites, carries the commoner to the elite class. But once there, he immediately mingles and makes peace with the elite tribe, and turn his back on the same masses that helped him get there.

Youths are the worst victim of this powerplay, they kill each other, call other tribes unprintable names, do terrible things and sometimes, even lose their life, thinking they are fighting for their right, not knowing that they are fighting for the personal welfare of someone, whose own children are probably safe in America or London.

So youths, don’t hope on the government. If you don’t have a job, create one. There is abject poverty in the south as well as the north, whether Ogoni or Maidugri. At the same time, there is massive wealth in Lagos, Onitsha, Nnewi, Aba, Kano, Abuja, irrespective of zone.

Whatever your hand finds to do, do it well and never remain idle. No job is too low for an idle hand, or else the devil will find work for you. As you become independent, and grow your capacity, do not lose hope in Nigeria. We are the largest economy in Africa and soon the world will fear us. Western powers, don’t like big economies that threaten them, America will do anything to break China, but China is wise to resist that. China has 1.6 billion people, we have only 170 million, and we are talking of breaking.

China has 5 major religions which are Buddhism, Confucianism, Taoism, Islam and Christianity. Nigeria has only 2 major religions, Christianity and Islam. Yet we claim that religion is our problem.

America, the strongest economy is comprised of every tribe in the world, since they accept anybody from any part of the world. Yet they are united and extremely patriotic. Nigeria has only 3 major tribes, and we claim tribalism.

Think clearly and deeply, and you will realize that empowering yourself is the best course of action, not fighting each other. And once the youths are empowered, they can begin to take back their future from the hands of the old and corrupt generation that has been blinding Nigerians with hatred, while looting all her resources. Sani Abacha’s loot is still stashed away in Switzerland, did he use it to develop the north? Those that stole billions under GEJ stashed it away in foreign banks, bought expensive toys, jets and foreign homes, are they using it to develop the south? Now the ones stealing currently, including the “grasscutters”, are looking for Ikoyi apartments, abandoned houses, and pit toilets to hide it, are they using it for the youths in their tribe? NO!

Youths shine your eyes ! Don’t always fall for this tribal, religious sentiments over and over again. Nigeria is bigger than these corrupt elites. They are the problem, not the poor masses.

Mum like you. With no valid point to argue your position, you chose to edit my post to suit your fantasy.

Eranko!

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Una go just dey yarn rubbish!

Which 70%? Where do you keep the Indians? (Dufil, Nobel ,Bhojraj, Stallion group, Churchgate Group, Chellarams, Chanrai. .

Or the Lebanese, Chinese, Israelis...?

You no get sense at all

Your brothers are mostly shop owners who don't declare their full businesses and are therefore amongst the least taxpayers

ifeco4:
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Can't U pass ur message across without been a tribalistic? What's your business about Biafra agitation (Oh I see, U are afraid that the moment Biafra is restored, BIAFRANs will move in great number down to BIAFRANs land thereby reducing the so called internally generated revenue from the West to 20 or 10 percent. 70% of firms, industries, establishments and businesses that pays tax in South West are owned and controlled by the BIAFRANs so I understand ur fears but it's too late to cry foul

Small time you people will come again and tell us that igbos pay 60% of tax in Lagos. When you know that it is easier to tax paid jobs in the organized sectors.
While shop owners amd importers can evade tax easily by understating their business or not declaring their true earnings.

Make una dey reason well o.

AK481:
This has nothing to do with standard of living.

This stat will only favor those that pay tax accurately especially worker on PAYE.

An average Igbo man has his own business and with that u can't actually estimate how much tax he will pay.

In market,all the govt can do is to say each shop should pay say 1000 monthly as levy.


But he will not be able to estimate how much goods is in each persons shop.


Igbos don't actually pay tax but using igr to judge standard of living is not correct.

A lot of Igbo businesses are not properly or fully declared. That's why a lot of them don't pay tax.
That's why I always laugh when they say they pay more tax in Lagos. Can a shop owner who doesn't fully declares his businesses or evades tax altogether pay more than someone in an office under the PAYE system? Lot's of them import goods amd after they pay customs and excise duties, they evade tax or pay lower because it's easy for them to understate their earnings.
It's the same fate the SE states are suffering now - low IGR because despite the seemingly big commercial activities going on, a lot of it are understated or not even stated at all.

YorubaForum:
This is total crap, everything in nigeria is based on politics and propaganda even feeding.. How can you tell me that north-west and north-Central generated revenue more than south-east, what are they producing?...How many mineral resources do they have?. .rubbish...even apart from Lagos, south west should be the lowest on that chart..

Do you think the federal government shares revenues from the ports with Lagos State?
Maybe you forgot how much Bola Tinubu fought back then that as the host state, Lagos should share in the revenue at the ports. OBJ no gree.

TheArchangel:
The revenue generation tilts more to the southwest cos of the presence of the nation's seaports. Establish ports in the SS and see all this stats balancing.
The proximity of businesses close to ports is a major factor here. Check the revenues of those farther from the seaports and you'll understand perfectly.

So the Italians, French and Germans should go and annex their people in Switzerland? Or the Germans their people in Poland? Be smart for once

GrandGarcon:
You have tribes all the way to togo but not one of you can come and say no, we shouldn't be this one will be speaking French while the other will be speaking English, why not come together and form one country.

Igbos should first of all learn to respect other tribes.
You guys always seem to paint others bad and yourselves as saints....

"Yorubas are local and dirty,
Hausas are illiterate,poor and beggars
Now Niger Deltas are purposeless.."

You never seem to ever see any flaws in your own tribe. Na una good pass

A sitting duck which without the protection of other assault ships in it's group will be a ready target for missiles. I do my hat to the Russians. Even their carrier Kuznetsov is armed with different types of missiles, SAMs, SALs. ..

OVI75:
U.S Lead Odas Follow Including Russia And China.

If it was news about Obiano signing MOU with a foreign company, you will start dancing skelewu here o.
You are drowning in so much hatred. So much it takes away your peace of mind and sleep. I bet you don't sleep well at night.

Olukat:
You haven't prove to me how much Ogun state government invested in that factory.
Obviously the land was bought and paid for by the Turkish investors.
One of the problem of our youths today is ignorance and inability to understand their environment.
While appreciating the investors and Gov. Amosun contribution to the factory, it is totally wrong for anybody to insult or
mock Gov. Wike as regards to the project.
Your insult means nothing to me though! #Mumu!

An important measure of a high intelligence quotient is the ability to put oneself in a position to see through all the other views of the argument while holding your own opinion

Grow up small boy.

Real2020:
You still don't get it. How old are you?

What were your block-head minister sons and daughters doing in the federal executive council meetings with GEJ amd Sambo when that rail design was drawn and approved?
Amaechi didn't draw it up! It had been in the works since GEJ's era. In fact Amaechi adjusted it for a spur into Abia State and possibly on to Onitsha.

SnowJay92:
When FG want to complete the beginning and tail end of the Lagos-calabar railway leaving out south east in the middle, what else does one want to hear? It's not new, the igbos have adjusted, but the whole body can never be well if a certain part is being neglected, moreso being mistreated. A toothache would not all the eyes sleep!

Systematic marginalisation my yansh!

So if Air France or Delta Airlines refuse to fly from Enugu because of low commercial viability, FG must force them to? And if FG doesn't, then the Igbos are being marginalised?
Why can't I fly out from Ibadan too? Should I say being systematically marginalized too, even if Ibadan airport doesn't seem commercially viable ?
Heathrow, Stansted amd Gatwick are just few miles apart amd are all very busy year round- because of commercial viability

Real2020:
Same reason why SS can't use their international airports to travel out or use their seaports. We all have to go through Lagos and Abuja to fly and to Lagos to ship and clear our goods. Have you tried to fly from Enugu or Port Harcourt to America, Canada, Europe and Asia? You can't. There is something we call systematic marginalization that you yorubas are unware of.

You should take time off the Internet and go to some library with good books on Nigeria to read about our history.
During the first Republic where we had a government of Igbos and Hausas.The Yoruba were pushed out of the loop, save for a few appointments of yorubas who were NCNC members. All the other posts were held mostly by Igbos and hausa/fulanis. We had Igbos heading the Senate and House of Rep at the same time (Joseph Wayas and Jaja Wachuk), Army, Foreign Affairs...
They didn't stop there. The coalition went ahead to disrupt the electoral process in SW to crush the opposition and arrested many of the Action Group members and other social activists. Our region was thrown into chaos. No one cried for us. We held on
We didn't cry marginalisation.

Rather we licked our wounds and sat back to re-strategize. And when we got the opportunity to take a good slice of the federal government again, we increased our advantage and stakes.

It is not our fault if all your sons and daughters that have held political positions since independence did not have the political skills to switch things to your advantage. They were obviously arranging for themselves only. (if we should do a headcount, you Igbos would have had more appointments overall than Yoruba since 1960)

When Abacha came in again, we took a stance against him. Your people had good access to him (Jim Nobody, Walter Ofonagoro, Uche Chukwumerije, Daniel Kanu...)
What did they do to gain political advantage and allocations for the SE?

You guys need to humble yourselves and return to the Yoruba to reach you good politics and how to play it smart. (Our Son Ajayi Crowthorne wrote the Igbo bible and gave you people your first written alphabets and a learning primer) We can continue teaching you.

Wailing won't do any good.

N.B: Nigerian manufacturing sector is not dominated by Igbos. You don't own half of what stake Indians, Lebanese, Israelis, Yoruba and Hausa hold in this sector. You have however shown good strength in the light industry subsector

xcolanto:
I am not going to go too deep into this because if you cannot see a thing I cannot force you to see it. Marginalisation is a thing of feelings to some extent and if I feel that way you cannot see it but I can explain to you how I feel and why I feel that way. To you it might be of no consequence but to me it means a lot. What am I trying to say? You claim the lopsided appointments would be of no help to the SE but that's your point of view not that of the SE. It might be of no consequence but there is something called a sense of belonging which is needed in nation building. This the SE has been schemed out off on all fronts, be it projects, FG presence, appointments etc. This is not a good feeling and can stire up feelings of resentment, abandonment and neglect. This in all sense can therefore pass as marginalisation but not to you. The government has not scored well in this regard and it's unhealthy and outright wrong.

As for the manufacturing sector dominated by the SE, it's would have been wise If the APC lead government had provided incentives and palatives to quoshion the negative effects such a policy would have on a people who's livelihood and regional development depends on such a crucial sector that sustains the non oil revenue of Nigeria to a large extent. It wasn't up until some months ago was forex made available to that sector of which many still find it hard to access. In this regard many manufacturers have moved out of Nigeria to do business in boardering countries. Do have in mind that the government has not provided the needed environment for such companies to thrives in the first place, such as electricity, good roads, security etc.
However in sector as BDC dominated by the Hausa the government was quick to intervene, enriching their kinsmen to billions of dollars, a fact sanusi attested to. Also the petroleum sector dominated by the north was also earlier supported while other sectors where left to rot.

As I said its a feeling that cannot be ignored and am sure millions of people would agree with me on this one.

Maybe you also need to take a trip to Oyo state outside of Ibadan; visit Kwara State apart from Ilorin and Offa, then go to some North Eastern states too for a tour. And if you have enough time to spare, visit Kebbi, Zamfara and Sokoto, maybe when yoh see how far from civilisation some of these places are, you will begin to agitate not just for the SE but for all those other areas where there's clear marginalisation. These people have not resorted to wailing but have decided to work their way out and make the most of what they have

konfused:
Dude, can I ask you something personal? Where do you reside? Have you ever been to the SE?

If NO......I rest my case ....

If YES......then you will have a first hand experience of what we re crying about.

You should stop this already?

Yes the federal government has its shortcomings, but how many of your governor's do you hold accountable? The proposed second airport at Lekki is and initiative of Fashola and Chinese investors.
Gombe built a beautiful airport on its own without federal cash. Same for Dutse, with an international standard airport.
When will you demand such from your governors?

Real2020:
What is funny is some Nigerians particularly yorubas think it's natural and okay for Lagos to have 2 seaports and largest functional international airport by design and for SE to have none. Some actually think Lagos has all these ports and airport by merit. When you try to to reason with them that why are Port Harcourt, Calabar, Warri, Onne and Onitsha ports not as functional as Lagos ports, they come up with all manners of excuses but you tell that that Dangote is using Calabar seaport to import most of his goods into SE, and then they keep quiet.Lol! Same goes for the airport, why are Lagos, Abuja, Kaduna and Kano the only functional airports in the country for international direct flight services? The fact is if you go right now, I mean now, to Lagos and Abuja, count and interview those traveling to international destinations, I assure you over 50% are Igbos. Then why can't they travel directly from Enugu, Uyo, Calabar, Asaba or Port Harcourt? Same goes for their goods...all these companies Reno talked about in Nnewi, Aba and Onitsha import their goods via Lagos port, that's over 1000 kms drive and paying all kinds of customs fees and bribes on the way to finally make it to SE, and you tell me this is fair?

Yorubas...how will you people feel having to drive 1000kms to SE to fly and clear your goods? Not only do you do this one time only but a constant thing for the past 50 yrs? And you think it's ok? Yorubas....where are your conscience? Do you people have feelings at all? Do you have hearts? I commend Fayose and Fani but more yorubas need to come out and condemn this evil and wickedness!

You have been very consistent across different thread in making a big show out of your mental instability
You are always seething with hatred and emotional depression that it's difficult not to pity.

xcolanto:
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Bla bla bla bla says the scratched face from the west side! Dude am not your problem! Have you counted those around KANU today??

Simple understanding, you can't grasp.
Nobody will force you out of your homes. All they are saying is that they won't allow IPOB micreants to force people to stay at home or vandalize the properties and shops of those who decide to go about their lawful business. We still remember what they did last year.

hardbody:
They should come and carry me from my home to go about 'lawful business'.....so that when the dust is settled, they will say i was gunned down while protesting.

I dey my house jeje....Trust the police and their 'sisters' at your own peril

Dullard.

Benin Kingdom no reach Ibadan sef. West Africa gini?

Hope you didn't write this rubbish in your just concluded WAEC?

Xda59:
Benin was an empire stretching across the whole of west africa.

Continue masturbating on the 'sexy' historical poster of Benin Kingdom. The world has moved on. It's now a global village. People all over are embracing development amd forming partnerships for growth as reflected by the Ooni. This invitation is a clear indication of such progress.

Your oba can continue staying in the palace while u his subjects continue deluding yourselves on some past glories.

Shey Oba get mouth for Lagos? Or can he lay claim to any part? Keep living in the past

Xda59:
You are ignorant. How many yorobastards are natural indegenes of lagos? As at the time the Edos and Portuguese where doing business in Lagos, Yorubas were still in far away Ile ife. All the names of towns in Lagos from ikoyi , esaleko, eti-osa, idumota, oshodi, epe, Igbosere, etc are all Edo names which became corrupted after the British invaded our territory and created the mistake called nigeria. Check Google and you will see the original names and their meaning.

And who told you his children are in strategic positions, They are e not even pastors to start with. They are running their own businesses outside of the church.

Falsehood peddler like you

sunnysunny69:
Believe that and you can believe anything. Even if it's true, he made sure his children are in strategic position in the church. So he took the hit and the children enjoy forever.

Will you just keep quiet if you don't have anything to say?

How will you say 2000? Did you carry out a survey or census?
Yorubas in the South-East are well over half a million. Enugu alone hosts over a hundred thousand.

Stop spewing thrash from the four walls of your room in Ibadan

bakynes:
You can only find a hand full of Yorubas in the SE. They are not many at all I doubt if you will find up to 2,000 Yoruba's in the entire SE while apart from Lagos in the SW you would find millions of you guys in the SW. I know there are a lot of Yorubas in PH, Delta and Edo.

The whole lot of u nairaland babys are just ignorant. this is just a case of you not going outside of your own house or and then saying yours is better than someone else that you haven't been.

A lot of Yoruba people haven't been to the South East, so you can't sit in your rooms and draw crazy conclusions. Same for Igbos, who haven't been to all the nooks and corners of the South West save where they go to do business. You can't draw conclusions.

It'd amazing how easily threads take a tribal leaning. I have had to wade in anger on several thread to spell out facts from my own point of view and side of the divide. I never enjoyed doing that, but most of the 1990's nairalanders can make your hair-splitting mad at times

Most of the people, Yoruba, Igbo & Hausa who have travelled wide and have interacted across ethnic lines do not hold most of these Igbo/Afonja/Arewa dirty opinions you mostly express here.

Tell them o.

All the great works of Lateef Jakande, it was because Lagos was FC too? We need to hold all our gorvenors to account, whether East or West

I hate all this tribalist arguments. We ought to be happy about development in every nook and corners of these great nation.

deomelo:
What's the great works of Lagos governors from Jakande to Tinibu, Marwa, Fashola and now Ambode got to do with Lagos as a federal capital decades ago?


Is the FC now the governor of Lagos state and is responsible for what we are looking at in these beautiful pictures of the current governors of Lagos state?

Lagos stopped being the FC decades ago and these governors started their quest with a clean slate in 1999 just like your own useless village governors so if you do nothing governors have nothing to show for your taxes and allocations, face them and stop trying to take away or excuse away other people's achievements as some silly FC nonsense?


Fashola commission this, oh, FG developed Lagos

Ambode commission that, oh FG developed Lagos as if FG is the governor of Lagos

You people can be very ignorant and annoying sha.

Yoi are beautiful

MhissBelva:
okay

You just took the words out of my mind

mexxmoney:
He and his wife are divorced and the wife has clearly brought up the child telling her so many bad things about her dad to turn her away from him...... That's what women can do