Christianity Etc › Re: WHEN Did God Create Hell? by hahn(op): 3:10pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
kevoh: I would say hell fire was created before Adam when the Angels rebelled. Lucifer (Sorry sonofLuc1fer ) and his rebellious angels where sacked from heaven. Then hell fire was created to punish Lucifer and his rebellious angels. Now the problem, as usual with stories like this is it begs more questions that need to be answered not pushed away:
1. Why should heaven, a place created by this god as holy (Revealation 21:27), now have creatures that later turned sinful/evil. The bible says in 1 Thessalonians 4:3 , God can will sanctification a.k.a turn things holy. Armed with these knowledge, we can deduce that this god a) Was powerless to keep Lucifer and his angels in a holy state in heaven so that they will not sin and rebel against or b) The Bible was just telling us lies and contradicting itself as usual in those verses.
2. So armed with Omniscience, Omnipotence and being merciful, after discovering that Satan/Lucifer, his own creature, was up to no good, this god decides instead of forgiving Lucifer and instilling in him a total state of holiness, decides to create a burning hell fire where even his later creatures(humans) will join in burning to eternity  This Jehovah dude is indeed incompetent and petty  |
Christianity Etc › Re: All Things Work Together For Good To Them That Love God And Are In His Purpose by hahn(m): 3:08pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: WHEN Did God Create Hell? by hahn(op): 3:08pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
ifenes: Your opinion is your opinion. Try not saying the word "God" for a month. Or what?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: WHEN Did God Create Hell? by hahn(op): 2:59pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
ifenes: This is why you shouldn't be taken serious. Spend your time to lose some weight Mr, you need it more. Oh thanks. I am definitely working on it By the way, sorry for saying your rants are a product of weed. It was obviously an insult to weed You are obviously on that white girl. Your yenking is out of my league Do have a nice day  |
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The other pikin nko?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: WHEN Did God Create Hell? by hahn(op): 2:57pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
ifenes: Empty drums makes the loudest noise. You can see why you shouldn't be taken serious. You seem childish with your convos, step up your knowledge bro. Mr Emotional  |
Christianity Etc › Re: WHEN Did God Create Hell? by hahn(op): 2:56pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
ifenes: Empty drum makes the loudest noise. You can see why you shouldn't be taken serious. Haha Bro fvck off my mentions abeg |
Christianity Etc › Re: WHEN Did God Create Hell? by hahn(op): 2:48pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
ifenes: I am not even aware there are 4200 gods, you must have spent lots of time counting them. Imagine making use of those precious time for your own personal development. It wouldn't be too much, would it? Lol. What an ignorant comment. Guaranteed bro I spend more time on my business than anything else Atheists have come to the understanding that God is man-made, but yet you spend everything time talking about this man-made God?. Tom and Jerry ain't real and no one talks about or try to debunk the idea of Tome and Jerry being real all the time. Lol. Chai. Absolute rubbish  It is either you are confused about the idea called God or you are simply obsessed with it. Perhaps you feel there is a deeper meaning to it and you are searching. Perhaps you need to read the bible more to find the true meaning of God as it seem you cannot do without talking about it. Oboy
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Christianity Etc › Re: WHEN Did God Create Hell? by hahn(op): 2:47pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
MrHenshaw: He created hell when Atheists started emerging on earth. So trace your origin with that you will know when. Bible verse? |
Christianity Etc › Re: WHEN Did God Create Hell? by hahn(op): 1:55pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
ifenes: Atheism is carved out of an ex Christian who never understood the metaphors in the bible. Atheists and Christians both fix their minds on anthropomorphic ideas about God. Atheism is the disbelief in all gods and last time I checked there are 4200 of them Atheists asks, “Why can’t God prove his existence, how and when did God create hell fire?" These are irrelevant questions that came out of years and years of lies from religion. Of course religion has suffocated and mistranslated the idea called God, neither has present science( the atheist new found faith) done anything to give a proper explanation of this phenomenon " God" creating so much confusion and immature questions and arguments. Atheists only ask this, especially we here in Nigeria, because our neighbours believe in these things and we are only trying to get to to question what they were taught to believe and think logically Both Atheist and religionists are brought up with the wrong concept of God, Angels, Demons and spirituality from the foundation of their human imaginations. A religionists turned Atheist, obviously a rebel to the religionist's idea of God fights the idea to death, giving countless of reasons why this God cannot exist, constant requests for evidence........ goes around in a boring circles and more circles. What a waste of human abilities. Atheists have come to the understanding that God is man made and the religious definition of god does not exist People should go back to basis. Read those books you have been brainwashed with open minds, do not condemn them but instead ignore the word Gods, Satans, Demons programmed into our minds by the 12th centuries writers. See it more as a literature, or perhaps beautiful stories. Because a book used to inprison your mind is probably the best book to release yourself. At the end you will realise that God is a bogus word created in fear. If you need to read the bible to "release" your mind then you have no understanding of what atheists are saying. There is nothing beautiful about mass genocide and threats of the wrath of a divine Kim Jong-un or about talking donkeys and snakes and other nonsense in the bible Obviously a self proclaim Atheist who talks about God all the time is obviously still a prisoner to the Christian/Islamic God ideology. Someone who does not believe in the existence in god is defined as an atheist. There is no self claim there it is simply a definition. Bro, na rubbish you type so. None of what you have said makes any sense. Na offside you dey yarn for real  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Arguments For The Existence Of God by hahn(m): 1:34pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Dozing on the beat  |
Christianity Etc › Re: WHEN Did God Create Hell? by hahn(op): 1:33pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
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HardMirror: a sad reality. tho we still have a lot of honest Nigerians but just too many support fraudsters and many are interested it and are highly regarded in the Nigerian society. This is a difficult topic because corruption is a symptom of indiscipline and you would agree that most Nigerians are indisciplined I was thinking of creating a thread listing things that make Nigerians indisciplined and I can bet you no single Nigerian will be able to say no to all of them |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is A Man? By Mark Twain by hahn(m): 12:42pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Land for sale  |
Christianity Etc › Re: All Things Work Together For Good To Them That Love God And Are In His Purpose by hahn(m): 12:25pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Ishilove: Ehn classify na, if that is what rocks your boat. It doesn't make any difference to me or change anything about me.
Agbaya oshi Mscheeeeew Your post reeks of maturity  |
Christianity Etc › Re: WHEN Did God Create Hell? by hahn(op): 12:24pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: WHEN Did God Create Hell? by hahn(op): 12:23pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
falcon01:
lol no be me talk am oo Na me talk am na  |
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FuckBuhari: they think is the handiwork of an imaginary dude, who allowed it to happen in the first place. The irony of delusion  |
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Virtuous baby mama seems more befitting |
Christianity Etc › Re: All Things Work Together For Good To Them That Love God And Are In His Purpose by hahn(m): 12:14pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Ishilove: And market women are not human beings? Y'all should continue your fuckery.
Hahn grow up. Nuf said I even thought you had something reasonable to say Armed robbers are humans too, would you like to be classified in the same category Mtchewww |
Christianity Etc › Re: All Things Work Together For Good To Them That Love God And Are In His Purpose by hahn(m): 12:14pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
bennyann: It's up to her to feed your eyes or not.
Proof oo, no proof oo, is the testimony that deadly to you? Is it a fight between dogs and cats?
Abi the testimony kill person ni? I know you do not care if it is a lie I would have loved to explain to you but it would be beyond your understanding Enjoy your sweet lie |
Christianity Etc › Re: WHEN Did God Create Hell? by hahn(op): 12:07pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
falcon01: the story of God is funny oo thats why i dont like to think about it makes little or no sense.
According tothe Qur'an and the bible God is so powerful that he controls everything' that happens why wont he just change everybody to good people?
why wont he just put everybody in heaven since tha wont reduce him in any way. does he enjoy watching people suffer and die of hunger? why isn't he punishing Bad people? ? why wont he appear and tell us what to do?? why does he has to follow through a single person called a prophet?? Summary: The muslin and christian gods are assoles |
Christianity Etc › Re: All Things Work Together For Good To Them That Love God And Are In His Purpose by hahn(m): 12:06pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
HardMirror: hehehe!!! see frustration. you folks are just so entertaining. Oya rant like a market woman. *grabs some pop corn* She is a market woman na |
Christianity Etc › Re: All Things Work Together For Good To Them That Love God And Are In His Purpose by hahn(m): 12:03pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
bennyann: What's wrong with all of you?
Someone was promoted or rewarded or honored for crying out loud.
Christians attributed it to God which is normal, you guys attributed it to hardwork. All these differences in attribution doesn't take the reward away.
Why not just celebrate with her, because what's constant and common here is the honour.  Where is the proof ooooooo?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: WHEN Did God Create Hell? by hahn(op): 11:56am On Jul 02, 2017 |
CatfishBilly: In the book of Genesis, in the original dead Sea scrolls, when God said "Let there be firmaments" and called it heaven, it was also recorded that he also said, let there be hell, Venus, Mars and all the planets in the Milky way galaxy, he also said let there be billions of galaxies.
Your Bible is incomplete Bros, go and get a complete Bible. Where dem dey sell am? |
Christianity Etc › Re: WHEN Did God Create Hell? by hahn(op): 11:55am On Jul 02, 2017 |
jonbellion: Yaweh has an insatiable craving for the smell of burning flesh Don't question him Since he is God it can't be classified as a mental disorder  The question is when |
Christianity Etc › Re: WHEN Did God Create Hell? by hahn(op): 11:55am On Jul 02, 2017 |
[s] timawoku: Just one spoon of otapiapia will solve all these if truly you want to know the answer [/s]
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Christianity Etc › Re: All Things Work Together For Good To Them That Love God And Are In His Purpose by hahn(m): 11:54am On Jul 02, 2017 |
bennyann: Are you allergic to celebrating with people?  Do you just go around believing everything without asking for proof? Must you make your god look this petty?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: All Things Work Together For Good To Them That Love God And Are In His Purpose by hahn(m): 11:52am On Jul 02, 2017 |
Ishilove: Shw doesn't owe you anything. Grow up You might be gullible and depend on blind faith but that does not mean every one is and does |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Happens After Death? by hahn(m): 11:31am On Jul 02, 2017 |
ADEWUMIMichael: I know what I mean by saying atheist should stay away from this particular question,
Please I asked a question,
What type of answers do you expect an atheist to answer on this particular question?? After death you are death. You return to the state you were before you were born and ie the state of non existence Simple |
Christianity Etc › Re: Can A Child Of God Bribe??? by hahn(m): 11:27am On Jul 02, 2017 |
Well, since god himself demands a bribe, also known as tithe and offering, to provide one with good health, money, a new house, a new job, a good contract, protection from witches and wizards(which it created), etc then I think it is okay for people who believe that such a maniacla god exists in the first place to continue with the foolishness  |
Christianity Etc › WHEN Did God Create Hell? by hahn(op): 11:23am On Jul 02, 2017*. Modified: 12:02pm On Jul 02, 2017 |
Assuming it exists, hell that is, WHEN did god create it?
Did it create it before man sinned?
This would mean that it knew man would sin and still went on to create a place of eternal torment, anguish and pain which makes it either psychopathic and an absolute maniac considering that it is supposed to be omniscient thus can man really be blamed for sin? Does god have any moral justification for torturing people in eternity for sins it created knowing it would punish us for them before even creating us or us becoming aware enough to commit sin?
Did it create it after man sinned?
Couldn't god have just forgiven man considering that Adam and Eve eating the fruit was their first sin ever? As a human, won't you scold your child the first time he/she does something wrong and leave the flogging or punishment to when the child repeats it(depending on the level of crime committed)?
Does it make sense for god to create a place of eternal suffering, torment and pain just because Adam and Eve ate a fruit? Besides, where was god at the time? Couldn't it have shown up and stopped the devil from tempting Eve, since it is omnipresent, and saved humanity from "hell"?
If it exists
Mature comments please and hopefully bible references
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