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frankfrancis871:
There is a big different between a religious man and godly man, the religious man is very overzealous, selfish, claims to be perfect and twist things to his own way for a particular selfish reason while a godly man is the exact opposite of the above! He is a man of his words, selfless, a good man but not perfect, does not RELY on a pastor or imam's explaination unlike the religious man who will even be told that 'his parents are evil and against his success' and he will expect it wholeheartedly..

ok, accepted. You are a godly man, do you have a particular way of life and what determines this way of life?

gentlezypher:
lol i never insulted you on your belief,but you are insulting me,so whats difference between you and those you condemned on your thread earlier,Mr?

oh! How did i insult you? Pardon me if you think i did, but this is just another indication of your poor comprehension.

... i said if you cant understand what i wrote then you are dumb or insincere. The question now is do you understand my counter-claim or not

frankfrancis871:
well humans do not understand what they believe or doubt in, for me life itself is a religion. Whatever you hold on to or believe in simply becomes your RELIGION! Those self-acclaimed atheist do not know that atheism is fast becoming a religion because many people are believing in it. Therefore any theory that has to do with belief is RELIGION, so for me atheists are really confusing and contradicting themselves.
Conclusively "I rather be a godly man than a religious man," thanks..

This most be the most silly comment i have read in a long time. Why? The writer tries to sound intelligent but ends up making no sense.
The contention between atheists and theists has been the god at the center of all religions. You dont see atheist takling cults even though religion and cults have similar structures. You think you are excluded and special by claiming to be a godly man which puts you in a very precarious position.

Now lets talk.

What does it mean to be godly? What makes a godly man be a man on the right track?

gentlezypher:
until it is proven beyond all doubt that there is no God, A GOD exists!!

I guess i can also say 'until it is proven beyond all doubt that there is no Zeus, no spiderman, no harrypotter, no gwagwa (by the way gwagwa created Yahweh ), then they all exist!!!!

Now you see how silly your assertion is? If you still dont see it then something is seriously wrong with you. Either you are very dumb or insincere

Image123:
The BOLD is exactly what i said and know of true atheists, not all these wannabes who want out of life and want to take their frustrations on God at their young age. All the explanation is needless as it is different explanation for each of you as usual. The point remains that atheists have no purpose in life, and you have often confessed on this forum that human life is useless. It seems reasonable that one should change purpose at will and have any foolish self purpose than for Divine purpose to stand. Indeed, you have spiritual problem.The devil has clearly eroded reason. Morality for you is subjective like i usually assert. Your perception can be it is good to kill, tomorrow it can be it is bad. For atheist A, it can be good, for B it can be bad. How convenient and delusional.

bla bla bla. I guess i can call you a wannabe christian too.

KayceeBanks:
OP, these are the only reasons tho

lol. Maybe

chiommy123:
spirit of God is really here. You just answered it. Pls don't be offended check your answer its there.

smh.

chiommy123:
how sir?

simple question. What is the name of the true church of christ that is the church you attend. Stop playing d*** as if you didnt understand the question from the beginning

Dalam0n:
Of course when it comes to religious beliefs they are delusional idiots. If not delusional idiots why should Nigerians believe that some ancient Jewish mythical figure created the universe and killed himself as a sacrifice unto himself so that he can offer them salvation to go and be with him in some imaginary place called heaven if only they accept this mythical and fictional narrative.

that guy is daft. He thinks he is putting words in our mouths. Guess he is new here for thinking we wld back down cos he is calling our families out.

Ignore him jare

They shld keep defending their useless god with all antics

rekinomtla:
So you are also claiming you were raised by a bunch of delusional idiots? are you absolutely certain or is this just another opinion of yours?

i know what you are doing but fail to realize not everyone is sentimental. You think you are insulting us? an honest atheist sees all religious people equally, family or not they are all deluded.

Dalam0n:
Of course my family members are deluded idiots for believing in ancient Jewish mythology and fiction that OBVIOUSLY ISN'T WORKING for them. They just cling unto it even though it's failing them always. There's nothing admitting that your people are foolish and deluded because it's the fact.

thank you. I guess he thinks we wld feel insulted for admitting it

Bro there are nice coffee shops here in lagos you could try their espresso

chiommy123:
what

are you trying to play on my intelligence?

chiommy123:
Jesus Christ built his church with his name and not any other name.

is that the name of your church?

chiommy123:
Christ said I will build my church. He didn't give a specific name but there's a way to know the church Christ built

interesting. Please educate us.

wirinet:
What can she do? The most important thing is I love her and she loves me, all other issues are secondary.

In the past, she occasionally begs me to attend some service with her (important services and events), which I did because of love. She needed to show me off to her members and pastors. Now, the kids are older, so she goes with the children, while I am home alone. I work half day most Sundays anyway.

With my mum, it was hard while growing up. I only had reprieve when I entered university. I left home not so long after graduation. She has come to accept me about being irreligious. We have never had discussion on theism or atheism.

this is really cool. One can always be matured about it. No need raising dust in your family

JeromeBlack:
Reminds me of a time when an old man at a bar was saying that he goes to church to look at fashion. You always find the latest fashion in church. The old man is a tailor.

he is right o. That man is a wise old man

raptex:
Lol@y'all saying I'm an atheist. In what part of the thread did I claim to be one?I strongly believe in God but I no longer see myself as a Christian or even as a religious person

how was church today?

amaniro:
You don't go to church to' worship' God per say. The word WORSHIP means you dedicate your life to something. All those reasons you mentioned 90percent of people now go to church because of that. Even me am not exempted. Am not a gullible Christian, but since I found the real Christianity. I became reluctant to church

as a poster above said, these things may not be termed wrong. I think i agree with him now.

Cool. I think i am ok with this explanation. I also dont believe they are wrong reasons tho majority would frown at these things even if they are guilty themselves. Thnx bro

matrix199:
There's reason for every act. The reason could either be good or bad.


Now, those reasons mentioned for going to church aren't bad reasons. The reasons become bad if they're not preceded by the reason to join others(collectively) in worshiping God.


The church is a social religious gathering. You can socialize(interact, show off, sell outside the church, woo a lady) after service.

Baawaa:
Anyone that is going to church because of any of these points is not a born again Christian

but many people do. Dont they?

This is a list of the wrong reasons why people go to church, but who am i to say these things are wrong. You be the judge


1. Because everyone is going. Majority dont like going to church. They reluctantly go because everyone is going and they are expected to go.

MY PROOF: they are distracted in church and always want to leave as soon as they enter. 2hours service is even too long. Most cant just wait to leave as soon as they enter.

2. To show off. yes. Most people cant wait to get to church to show off their new cloths, jewellery , cars and finally tell testimony of how fantastic their lives are. Everyone that attends churches knows that man and woman who always wants to give testimony of how he travels in first class, bla bla bla praise God for my fantastic life!

MY PROOF: majority would refuse to go to church if they cant iron their cloths or dont have fancy cloths to wear. Dont lie, have you not dodged church because of cloths before? Or when u dont have offering. Lolz


3. To get husband/wife/friends with benefits. In Nigeria church is a good hunting ground for play boys. They dress nice and smell nice and talk smooth, soon a choir member would be singing under bros. This is unfortunate.
Same thing applies to ladies looking for husbands. Church is the place to get the bros that are ready for marriage especially if you have wasted your youthful days in the world. Jesus arms are always welcoming he would give you an innocent brother to dump your remnant on.

My PROOF: just wait after service and see how bros and sis start pairing. Also from stories i get first hand.

4. To sell things/ for business church is where many ply their trade. Where to get clients for your GNLD products, where to get people for referal to MMM, where you sell your cloth materials at ridiculous price. Etc.

MY PROOF: many have approached me for one business or the other just after service. Especially the women, they always have something they want you to buy.

5. Because no where else to go. Need for miracle. Desperation poverty, ill health and a belief in miracles.

My proof. Many who are comfortable forget about church until they have problems.


What has been your experience.

Maamin:
Interested in what/and how you said it...that's all

ok. Cool

kevoh:
If I were a Christian on this thread, I would have called that guy to order! He is not making the matter easy for them to defend at all!

they are all the same. They lack sincerity. Go protecting a book that is available in millions in book stores. What a useless god

Shelumiel:
Please how is does the narrative of a raped girl influence the miracle I l witnessed ...can you see how digression is the focal point of your argument ...mtchws

oh o! It has everything to do with it. Did you solicit god to protect your bible from burning? Yet god protected an ordinary book (according to you anyway)...good... now if god does such useless things, why does god fail to do the more important things? Since it must be god that protected your bible and has nothing to do with the science that could have been involved. Why would god do such a miracle and leave millions of defenceless people many who are even his worshippers to perish. Oya i am listening

Shelumiel:
Have you bothered to asked those raped whether God is answering their prayers ? God's working is individualistic; not a group hug . Mumu

lol! I shld ask a 2year old that was raped by a 70+ man if god answers her prayers? You mean your bible prayed before god protected it? Calling me mumu does not make me one. Feel free to call me anything, just tell me why god wld be protecting an ordinary book that can be easily replaced but wont protect little children from ritualists and rapists

Maamin:
Were you able to tell it to your dad and mum that they are silly, stupid, a no brainer, and all other derogatory names you call theist on this forum?

interested in my family issue when you are not a member or just trying to sound funny. Hahahaha

rekinomtla:
I'm not the one calling them idiots, you are.

oh yeah, cos they fall into the group i call idiots, not because they are independently or exclusively idiots. So dont make it look like i single them out. You fall into the group, your family members are also part of the group. So what is the fuss?

Shelumiel:
...and the flames will not at least scald or burn the surface slightly? Are you mad ? Anyway , I do not blame , you are not a science student; you are probably some whacked commercial student with a very low IQ.

mr man. If that is your miracle go and tell that to the raped children god ignores while protecting a piece of book that costs less than N3000

Shelumiel:
I do not have time for your foolishness or hypocrisy . Excuse me .

just say you have just realised you were talking rubbish and too ashamed to admit it

Samsimple:
mr hardmirror.. I know u too well.. So i cant argue with u.. Happy sunday afa wetin dey for boys

lol! How u take know me o

Me sef dey find where to perch this sunday jare.

Samsimple:
I seriously think atheist should have their own thread in the religion section.. Or there should be some restriction in christian thread just like the one found before u can access the muslim thread where u have to admit to be a true worshipper of mohamed...

Let the christians say their miracles in peace.. It doesnt matter how it is viewed from ur own perspective.. Wait is it ur miracle?.. Hopefullandlord frank317 hardmirror i get ur point .. U might not call it miracle.. But i am certain u have been through some spectacular situation that left u speechless..
ONE LOVE

oh o! U see how it hurts when you condemn other religions and speak against them. Christians dont mind their business. Right now one useless church is disturbing everyone with their speakers here. It makes a lot of sense to speak against the insanity of this useless religion. You dont own a monopoly in condemning others.