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Divoc19:
Mothers are always attached to their sons forever no matter the age of that child/son

Why don't you answer my question?

Does your mother want that your brother's marriage fails?

Divoc19:
Acidosis got it right on this one. It's good to be open minded on issues at times even when we know that we are different.

Are you saying that your mother wants your brothers' marriages to fail?

Acidosis:
I'm a realist. Experience is the only way to sort out popular facts from fiction.

In your experience widows wish for their sons' marriages to fail?

Acidosis:
I'm surprised you did not add "sugar boy" but...


Let's have this conversation again when you're 60.

We have to wait till I'm 60 but you can make this statement before you have become a 60-year-old woman?

Acidosis:
What else will keep a woman 60+ year old woman busy asides from her husband, grand kids from a baby daddy, or a son that has refused to get married?

Friends, hobbies, community service, work, travel ....

Acidosis:
That's because there is no man in her life to keep her busy. Her husband died 17 years ago. Like Ronaldo's mother, most single mothers technically pray that their sons become successful baby daddies/single fathers.

Seriously now? Most? Direct me to your source of knowledge please.

And it's only men that can keep women busy and give their lives purpose?

How did he eat his brother when babies do not eat in the womb but are delivered all nutrients through the umbilical cord?

The headline should read: Ukraine bullied into being a neutral state.

What was he expecting when he had kids with Kim? That their kids would stay away from social media? Naive.

If the first day of your last period was the 19th of January and you had sex on the 23rd it is unlikely that you got pregnant by your ex. How long is your menstrual cycle?

Why do men find it hard to love other people's children?

Both come with different challenges but nursing a baby is more fulfilling. When your baby smiles at you, you forget your fatigue and the fact that you don't even get to eat in peace anymore.

Giving birth is brutal though.

Bbbwings:
You really think Putin is in power because of Abrahamovich?
Abrahamovich is just one of the litters of billionaires in Russia.

Not because of but with his support.
Abrahamovich is not just a billionaire, he used to be a governor too.

Bbbwings:
They control a buisness section of the country.
Even much so that their superpacs constitutes a considerable influence on who gets elected in yhe US .

I see your point but there is no comparison between the US form of government and the Russian. How long has Putin been in power with the help of Abramovich?

Acidosis:
All forms of government, including democracies, theocracies, and monarchies can be controlled by an oligarchy.

Wrong. Oligarchy is the rule of the few, democracy is the opposite.

Oligarchy is yet another western terminology to create conjectures and false representations.

The term was used as early as in the 16th century or earlier. Democracy, theocracy, monarchy are all western terminology. Yet you use them.

I don't have to read a textbook written by an English author to know what oligarchy represents. But as far as I know (I may be wrong), Dangote (whom you said he's not an oligarch), holds more power and influence on the Nigerian government than Abramovich in Russia.

Explain please.

The power and influence of the Queen (whom you also said holds no political power) over the British PM and the entire Brits outweighs the influence of any Russian Oligarch over Putin.

Certainly not.

Oligarchy is 1,000 times better than Monarchy.

Britain is a democracy with a constitutional monarchy.

And the statement above is your baseless opinion since you didn't care to give any reasons.

Bbbwings:
Any Russian or slavic businessman is an oligarch.
It is a term used by westerners to conjure images of corruption and shady dealings.
Zuckerberg bill gates and buffet are oligarchs.

Nonsense.

The term was used as early as in the 16th century or earlier.

Zuckerberg and Bill Gates aren't ruling the US neither have they ever held any political office.

Acidosis:
Chelsea is headquartered in Russia? Oligarchies are present in nearly all the countries in the world, including America.

Even Dangote is one in Nigeria. Still not a reason to shut down Dangote Cement across African countries because Buhari has issues with Biafra.

If the so called Oligarchy is bad (or enough to witch hunt individuals) what do we call the UK's monarchy system where a particular family has sworn to rule the country forever??

You asked what Abramovich business with Putin is and I told you to check the meaning of oligarchy/oligarch. A business tycoon like Dangote or Bill Gates is not the same as an oligarch. So I ask you again to check the meaning of oligarchy/oligarch.

After that we can discuss if targeting oligarchs is effective or not but that's a different matter than saying that an individual's human rights are being violated here. Abramovich is not just some individual/private person, neither is he just a rich businessman. He is an oligarch with close ties to the Kremlin, allegedly.

The UK is a constitutional monarchy. The Queen does not hold any political power. Let's not compare apples and oranges.

Acidosis:
Human rights in the mud. Another western ideology in the mud. The level of hypocrisy in the world is alarming. What's this man's business with Putin? Why would you seize another man's investments because of his country of origin? Chelsea isn't a typical MNE but a UK based organization with no connection whatsoever with Putin or Russia. This is hypocrisy and dictatorship taken too far.

I expect the World Bank "Doing Business" to, as a matter of urgency, placed the UK as one of the world's most difficult place to start a business.

Check the meaning of oligarchy.

YES!

Klass99:
How can she not regret when my brothers have stressed the living daylights out of her . How have you been?

But you turned out just fine. Doesn't it count?

I'm good sweetheart. A little bit sleep deprived but happy. What about you? Hope everything goes your way.

Klass99:
You're so on point. My popsie with 7 children said 2 children are more than enough in this age and time

Sometimes I suspect my mom regrets having children sef, because the kind shege wey some of her children don show her ehn, my brothers most especially.

But you know it is taboo to say these things out, especially as a woman, society will crucify you.

How can she regret having kids when she has a daughter like you?

Acidosis:
I don't have a narrow idea of what a feminist must be. What I don't have is a true picture of the average [real]life of a feminist on Nairaland because of the issues they invest their time and resources.

Oh well, Magnolia has given you the monickers of those who share their personal lives on here, hasn't she?

Acidosis:
It's good to know that Coco cooks for her family even more than many "traditional" wives. Now when a female moniker comes up with a problem, it would be good to see Coco talk about how to manage crisis in the home, how an ideal wife should take care of her home, not sleeping and waking up on threads that make it mandatory for the man to cook and clean or threads calling for divorce and separation, or relationship between a man and another man.

And this is exactly what I've been writing about in my last post. In your mind, a feminist shouldn't cook that much or more than a traditional wife. It explains why you think she doesn't practice what she preaches. The problem is that you have a narrow idea of what a feminist must be like not Coco preaching what she doesn't practice unless you show me a post where she said wives/feminists shouldn't cook.

Magnoliaa:
If you don't know for sure what they practice in real life, why did you conclude the ladies who claim or that you perceive to be feminists are 'non-practicers'?

You were responding to Amazon... and you said, "you people." Acid, are you telling me now that you're just realising I was asking you GENERALLY? I said people accuse liberal-leaning people or woke people or feminists or just people they think are unconventional online of not practicing what they preach. Coco and Amazon are the only women I categorically know are feminist or do nor reject the tag. I am a feminist...as well Kobojunkie.

*But then keep in mind too that there are some people who do not like to use terms to used to describe them even though they suuport something...

I think there are two "grouses" here... you're questioning Coco because she has refused to say details about her life, and then responding to all of us (the unanimous feminists on NL) through Amazon...

You should have told me laataro that it was the feminist women on NL you're referring to. Oya, lemme throw something for you and send you on the errand. Go and read apatheticme's posts. She's a feminist and you'll get more than enough sef from going through her profile. Hopefully, I don't need to invite her or plead with her or make her feel obligated to heed any mention of me in sharing her stories just because. Her previous posts, made voluntarily and as she wished, is still there.

Moving on, my questions are still standing - are you saying "we people" on NL are non-practicers of our online talk because we've mostly refused to share details with you? Lemme know if that's what you're saying so we can move on... we can first agree on the fact that that they don't share doesn't mean they don't practice. Then the focus should now be on WHY they choose not to share, instead of you concluding it's because they don't do anything worth sharing, 'nugo?'

When you also said, "you people..." I'm assuming you have a specific group of women in mind. And they do not include the group of women you're trying to bring in now, i.e., the ones who speak on feminist issues or defend feminism but don't call themselves feminists. If you're referring to 'you guys, or you people', feminists, then let's exclude the ladies who don't call themselves feminists... only Coco, Amazon, me... I'm saying again are the ones I know on this thread. Hathor is another... since you want to limit your address to us. No problem. These facts are undeniable:

- Many feminists, on LESS ANONYMOUS sites, share corroborating personal stories about their beliefs and ideals. So you can't say those ones don't practice what they preach.

- Coco's and Amazon's responses I quoted up there said that they do talk about vasectomy in their homes...and that they choose not to share with you, a stranger online, doesn't deduct from the truthfulness of that.

- I also mentioned that I was not limiting my response to vasectomy conversation...KanwuliaExtra is also another woman that intersperse her posts with her personal details. A feminist.

Do with these what you will first.

But just continue ooo. Continue. You want feminists women to be sharing details of their lives online and putting their significant others on display just to prove (that you still won't accept) how bona-fide they are in the cause, but for you, I no even know when you marry. One thing about her, I no know o. See ehn, I know some might be thinking I'm doing too much or I'm taking it this far or even speaking on behalf of other women... but it's necessary. So long as I've not crossed the line into disrespect and such. If you understand how it is with your own current relationship, and how you barely talk about it, why are you demanding the same from others? Because, in fact, I dare say, it is an ASSUMPTION that you're married. You yourself haven't explicitly or in passing mention such... e just be like say you dey post like a husband-man. If you want their vasectomy conversations and decisions with their SOs and as feminists to be shared here, would you mind telling us how you've applied your traditional beliefs to your marriage too? How is it working for you?

No, I AM NOT POKING or crossing any boundary. I am simply pointing out to you what you're doing as well, and it's fun for the heck of it.

I know many 'traditional' people on here as well, who don't say nothing about their lives... that's okay. What I won't agree with is it making it into a feminist or their character's flaw because they're (or we're) doing what other are doing. Less details.



A lot of difference in what? A lot of difference in the conversation abi to you? Abeg, let me know before I go and waste my data and time... but I see you're trying to circle back to Nairaland feminists. So if I brought you a deluge of evidence, shey you won't claim it doesn't matter, because they are not the NL feminists you were referring to?? Chei.



I am a feminist and I've just told you about relationships I had to forego. I said, feminism inspired that. Other things might have inspired you breaking up with ladies on your own. I am also on Nairaland. I ask AGAIN: Is it enough proof for you to believe that I practice what I preach relationship-wise?
I also share feminist posts and articles and videos with/to those around me. On my WhatsApp statuses, Facebook... yes, those are still online, but I do have people who know me in real life on my list so.

I provided you with details now you're going off on other things...

You're the only one here that has been making assumptions. You cannot call a non-declaration false. Just like when some Christians ask atheists to prove the non-existence of a thing. I am not an atheist, but (the) logic is common and available to all.

I was mentioned. And yes, I do.

Is it that Acidosis can't wrap his mind around the idea that a woman can be a feminist and yet cook for her family like Cococandy does? I think many people still have this idea that caring for your family contradicts feminism, which is wrong. But since it is difficult to correct such notions, I will not waste my energy and accept to be called fake feminist or online feminist. Either way, it's still feminist and proudly so.

pocohantas:
Na from Naija men o. There was this thread on Chinese companies abusing Nigerians, they were like “with their small prîck…”

them and their obsession with genitals

pocohantas:
So why do you have to travel to the WHITE MAN’s land to be productive? It is simply because they made an enabling environment for you to thrive. Is this rocket science or simply beyond your mental capacity?

On your own you ain’t shît. There are men that should talk down on their women, not black men, not Nigerian men! Y’all should leave our vaginas and go compete with your fellow men!

In 2022 and y’all still boasting about big gbola. Chinese men with their small prîck have built an economy that can easily compete for world power. You black men are still here, fighting for right to marry more than one toto!

Spits on his oily black face!!!

You`ll kill me with laughter.

How do we know theirs is small? Asking for a friend.

Putin is nothing but a tyrant getting worse with age. Sooner or later he will go down.

Loveknitting:
The man is not that tyranic as the west wants you to believe.

And you know this from Russia TV?

He is a bully who knows that other leaders will try everything to prevent WW III and who doesn't care that people are dying right now losing their homes and families. But for people like you he has balls.

DaniDani:
Putin, the man with ball. He isn't shaken by any world threat, he is the world liquid metal, the undisputable ndaboski of Europe.

cococandy:
Garlic mashed potatoes, veggies and chicken.
I used to hate gravy but love it now. This life

I remember you telling me this a while ago and I was like WHAAAT?

Very helpful.

But don't get them such things too early and limit their screen time.

To each their own. Case closed.