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LordReed:

Atheist doesn't mean "no god" as you are claiming. Atheist means without god which in my case means I without belief in god but if you want to persist in saying you know my mind better than me, you can have a conversation with yourself. Imagine if I came to you saying you don't really believe in a god and insist that I am right and that you are only pretending how would you feel?

Atheist is the greek word 'a theos'. 'a' means no, 'theos' means God. It is the belief that there is no God.

Regardless of what you may say i still don't believe that atheists truly believe what they say they do.

My reason being that the Bible clearly states that God has revealed what may be known of Him to everyone, so that all are without excuse. The Bible also says that the sky declares the Glory of God. So God is clearly justified to throw an atheist into hell for eternity.

My intention is not to offend you, but just to state my belief in what the scripture says (and the scripture is infallible).

LordReed:
I didn't say you said so I said you are tacitly admitting it and you are again repeating it so I don't know why you denied it in the first place. The god concept doesn't make sense but it must make some kind of sense to you because you always have an excuse for the god that you won't apply to anyone else.

Again, i did not mean to say or imply that the concept of God makes no sense to a non-believer. I said His actions are sometimes misunderstood by them and also by believers as well. And that is understandable, because a being like God obviously is on a higher intellectual plane than we are, and we naturally would have a hard time making sense of His doings.

Also, you atheists (which is what you claim to be, and i don't believe there is any true atheist) already have a bias against God. You already dislike God because you don't understand why He does what He does, so you view God through the lens of that bias and are not willing to accept the truth about Him.

Also, when you say i always have an excuse for God, you make it seem as if your interpretation of God's actions is right but those of believers are just mere excuses in order to paint God in a bad light and that's not true. Again, because of you bias against God, you have chosen not to be open-minded concerning Him and therefore reject any truth concerning Him.

Jeon:
Take it or leave it...

I have said and made my rules.. Can't flow with misused body...


And I really appreciate the Lord for giving me Libra sign as a star sign cuz we don't take shitz.. ..

#ITLIBRASEASON.

You are a Christian and still dabble in the occult. Or don't you know that astrology is occultic? Stop reading your horoscope, read your Bible instead and confess reading your horoscope as sin to God and repent of it.

https://www.bibleinfo.com/en/questions/astrology-mentioned-bible

For your good. God bless you.

LordReed:
There's no other standpoint I have to figure out anything. Basically you are admitting that this god concept doesn't make sense to a non believer which is exactly my position.

No i didn't say the God concept doesnt make sense to a non believer.

I said that His Ways.... His methods don't make sense to humans in general, whether believer or non believers.

The natural mind can't fully grasp God

MaxInDHouse:
If i say "you're not a Christian" you will feel bad but let me assist you in silencing the atheists worrying you over the goodness of JEHOVAH.
Psalms 34:8

First of all what the atheists are dragging with you is the evil things happening around the world today and the way Jehovah dealt with the enemies of Israel in ancient times, shey?

Well if you must know the atheists themselves are saying that JEHOVAH is good but they're not aware of what they're saying whenever they demand for LOGICAL REASONING.

Let me treat the idea of evil things happening in the world today and how JEHOVAH has proved to be GOOD in allowing mankind pass through this situation!

But before i do i'll like to ask for your permission to use God's word (Bible) in addressing the issue and the atheists to state clearly what exactly they want to know respecting how God can be referred to as good despite all the evil happening on earth today!

Permission granted. You may proceed.

HellVictorinho:
How did you know God is wiser?

Cuz He is God?

HellVictorinho:
Your belief doesn't change anything


There's no faith in God in my head



You are not in my head

So, don't act like you know what's happening in my head

You may not have active faith in God, but you know that He is real, God has revealed Himself to all and none is left out.

You know there is a God.

VeeVeeMyLuv:
Are u a somebody that has laser beam focus? Somebody that used to hear word? That follows instructions to the letter? Smart & brave? Then u are good to go!

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Read other books written by investment gurus. Books on economics, fundamental & technical analysis.

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You also trade forex? How long have you been doing so?

smeag0l:
When you've traded the demo account for 3 months ,let me know. I'll give you the second advice then

Alright.

But tell me something.

Whats the highest amount you've made from any single trade?

LordReed:
I guess the conversation is over since you know what's in my head better than me.

Lol. Be not offendede, mate.


The truth bis the truth whether you like it or not.

The reason why i made the former statements is because of the reason why you said you're an atheist.

Based on what you told me, i couldn't help but deduce the fact that you're simply just angry with God.

Also, i don't believe anybody can be an atheist. The Bible teaches that God has revealed Himself to everyone, so no one is without excuse.

So God won't be unjust to send an atheist to hell because the atheist did know He existed.

I don't believe anybody can be an atheist. But i believe people can be agnostic, which is a more logical viewpoint.

Also, it is logically impossible to be an atheist. You know why? Because atheist means 'no God'.

In order for you to say that such a being exists, you would have to have all knowledge. Which you obviously don't

But i can say that there is a God, not because i have all knowledge, but because i know Him.

I speak to Him and He speaks to me.

LordReed:
Ok, I thought I had that too.

You did. Up until you rejected it. The gift is by trusting and remains with those who keep on trusting.

LordReed:
Humans have not seen a god create anything so how can you reasonably conclude that it was a god that created anything?

Well, creation was a one time event. Everything that needed to be created were created at the beginning so God won't be doing any creating anymore.

However, He has enabled His creations to reproduce after their kind, thus eliminating the need for further creation.

AlwaysMotun:
Oride from Opay, Bamboo, Risevest to mention a few

Do you have any idea why they were banned?

smeag0l:
Don't trade with real money at the beginning

Lol. Come one now. I already have a demo account with which i am trading. Give me more advice please.

LordReed:
This is the problem with following you along with your assumptions you begin to think I believe your god. If I stuck by my guns and insist that your god doesn't exist then we would have no discussion. I only follow the assumptions to logical conclusions so don't get it twisted, I remain an atheist.

Like I said excuses would begin to come out for the god because you must now try to reconcile what is expressly written with the concept of the god you have in your head. The god is said to have sent a spirit of deception to get Ahab to go into battle but to you its not the god. In the NT it is said that the god will send delusion to make people deceived but to you it's not the god. LoL

Your god did not write anything, the claims of inspiration cannot be substantiated by any reasonable means. Jesus was alive and didn't write a single word. He did not reveal any scientific principle or expound on any technology but somehow we are to believe your god is responsible for scientific breakthroughs.

I alluded to facts about the origins of the Bible but instead of countering with facts you come with assertions. You are merely defending what you think is infallible, have you actually looked up the history of how you got the book you call the Bible?

I repeat I don't believe in your god, such a god doesn't exist.

I don't believe you. Deep down inside you know there is a God but don't just like Him very much.

Why shouldn't i believe that God is responsible for scientific breakthroughs? Who gave people brains?

Why wouldn't God send a lying spirit to get Ahab to go into battle? Ahab was an ungodly king and God wanted him out of the throne.

When you say that you only follow assumptions to logical conclusions are you trying to say that belief in God is illogical? Because that's not true.

All in all i believe that there's no real atheist. If anything you are angry at God because you perceive Him as unjust and unfair.

LordReed:
According to you if you told one lie you would be counted as though you committed murder therefore you deserve to suffer forever, for 1 lie. How in any good sense is that just? How is it justice to suffer infinitely for finite crimes? There is no Jurisdiction on earth where all crimes are punished the same way but this your god can't even be better than human beings. Besides this is about suffering what does the god gain from people suffering for eternity?

The problem is you are trying to figure out God from a human standpoint and that's wrong.

There's nothing that we know about God that He did not reveal to us.

How is it justice to suffer infinitely for finite crimes? Well my answer to that lies in Isaiah 55. God's ways are not our ways and His thoughts are not like ours.

It may not make sense to you why people should suffer infinitely for finite crimes, but God is far wiser than you and is also Just, so I believe He knows what He's doing.

LordReed:
Gimme an example from your own life.

The gift of salvation.

LordReed:
You didn't answer the question. Lemme rephrase it: how is the god obvious to you?

Creation. I believe all things were created intentionally.

Also, my belief in the spiritual started when i had an experience one night in which an invisible person rubbed my shoulder. I can never forget that day.

Truthissupreme:
The difference is my boss is my employer

Buhari is my employee as a public servant not my boss

He's not just your employee. he's your leader also.

smeag0l:
Don't trade with real money at the beginning.

So you traded with real money and blew your account?

What other advice can u give me?

JackWolfskin:
Naira meets Dollar!

Where's AbokiFx?

You have no idea how powerful what you just said is.

Truthissupreme:
Does the president respect the people when he calls some dot

Does the president respect the people when he sends his military to go flog the royal father's of some people with Cain

Does the president respect the people when he calls youths lazy

Does the president respect the people when he doesn't deem them necessary to inform about the happening in the country despite all the state of anarchy

Does the president respect the people when he pays ransom to bandits and reward the victims of Terrorists

Does the president respect the people when he doesn't respect their territories and keep insisting on mapping it out to jihadists Terrorists

Does the president respect the people when he considers Niger republic citizens first class before nigerians

Does the president respect the people when he goes against federal character and appoints his fellow nepotistic jihadists

I see no valid reason for calling him names. He still is your leader.

If your boss at work does something you disagree with do you insult him to his face?

Banmeallday:
Who be your leader...?

Please go and sleep


FUC.K Buhari and his imposters

Oya clap for yourself you've accomplished something.

smeag0l:
I became consistently profitable since last year during the pandemic. Of course, I have a 9-5

Any advice you can give me as a beginner?

lifenija:
u self u are MAD

You are saying i am mad for choosing to respect my leader? And you are normal for choosing to disrespect him?








Wawu

pineed:
Good topic!

First of all it's cowardly & childish to hide under a faceless forum to insult anyone, talkless of a president.. Such persons can't even utter a word when u see them in person. They don't vote, don't do nothing.. only insult online.

We refer to these folks as cowards

I think I raised this same topic years back . Some folks said (and still say on this post) that its because former president GEJ was insulted that's why PMB is insulted now.. I laughed at their childish assertion.

The PMB & GEJ you "kill" yourself over daily see eachother every other day, they've put differences aside & moved on.. but ignorant, childish & uncultured folks just keep insulting themselves.

I'm baffled why citizens don't focus on their immediate government.. Governor, LG chair, Reps, Senators.. but only focus on the president. I thought we practice democracy - 3system of govt.

I'm not a fan of any politician that doesn't make me stoop low to insult anyone.

Exactly

LordReed:
A lion has a physical body I can see and hear it come toward me. The god you describe has none of that so how can it be on the same level? I am an atheist because it is not obvious to me a god exists. I asked you how you determine what is true and you told me that you test things but in this case you say instead it merely is obvious and requires no testing. What is obvious to you? Have you seen the god in question?

One day i will see Him face to face. No one has ever seen God at anytime and if anyone ever sees God He won't live to tell the tale.

Besides I have seen God. Jesus said that all who have seen Him have seen the Father so seeing God and seeing Jesus is no different as they both are the same. But one day all believers will see Him face to face.

LordReed:
This is funny you are asking an atheist to say he thinks a god did something all by his godly self like are you not seeing the contradiction?

Most of my family is still Christian, some on my dad's side are muslim.

I'm not asking you as an atheist. I'm asking you to look back at your days as a Christian and see if there was any happening that you clearly knew you had no hand in

LordReed:
So what? In the world to come as you believe it are people not going to suffer for eternity? It's quite clear the the concept of god as you believe it doesn't care about people suffering, suffering doesn't move your god to do anything, in fact your god is preparing for people to suffer for eternity.

The people who will suffer for eternity are those who justly deserve it. God is Just, you see.

LordReed:
What did babies do that made god so angry they had to be killed? What good reason is there to wholesale slaughter babies?

Then himself doesn't even adhere to this ridiculous standard because he does the very same things you say requires you to be killed for. The god hates, the god is jealous, the god is wrathful, the god watches porn, the god deceives. So by this standard your god deserves to be killed. But of course he won’t kill himself so instead excuses will be made. How is any of that just or justice?

Who is responsible for the slow spread if not the god who instead of utilising any of the vaunted power at his disposal to spread his message decides instead that he will wait for hundreds of years while men develop better tools for information dissemination. And not only that he did not write anything himself, did not preserve any of the original manuscripts. None of the languages any of the originals were written in are widely spoken or written today, necessitating flawed translations of imperfect copies of imperfect copies. How does any of this show a god that seriously wants a message broadcast?

From all that you have written here i believe it is safe to say that it's not that you don't believe in God, because you actually do and just dislike Him.

God hates evil (any sane person would), God is jealous FOR people not OF people (there's a difference), when you say God watches porn you say it like the same way you would say a human watches porn but that's not true. The Bible says the God's eyes go to and fro around the earth keeping watch on the evil and on the good. When God looks at people acting porn He doesn't do so with lust (God is all Good and lust is evil so He can't lust), God has never deceived anybody, you must have Him mistaken for the devil: he is the real deceiver.

You said He didn't write anything Himself and that's not true. All Scripture is God-breathed.

Who do you think is behind scientific breakthroughs? Lol. Do you seriously think that God doesn't have a hand in all the great scientific breakthroughs the world has made? Who gave us brains? Who determined our brain's abilities and limits?

The Bible is not flawed, it is infallible.

Bro i think you are just angry at God because you have some wrong ideas about Him. You don't believe that He is Good but indeed He is.

Banmeallday:
First of all he is not your president, but PROPERTY OF ENGLAND.

He uses imposters and when they are summoned, off to London they go.

No respect to you or the taxpayers, working class of the Nigger Area.

Bandits strike at will, even killing his army officers, and no word from BABA.

SO please OP, dont be stupid and respect your ancestors who were enslaved, colonized, and coined the World’s Niggers from an Area.

All these things still don't justify calling your leader names

dasparrow:
Respect is earned and not given. What has GMB done to earn the respect of the people he is lording himself over? Can you respect someone who okays the recruitment of kidnappers and bandits into the Nigerian army?

If your father cheats on your mother would that cause you to start disrespecting him?