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zaxbash:
U be atheist now...? Werey Na ur papa dey produce rain,Na ur mama create the first life on earth...

i'm not an atheist and will never be

triplechoice:
I think it can only work for a few. Your case is different. You already had the capacity to critically examined what you use to believe. So it was easy to make the change.. Most people here don't have that advantage .They should be treated as humans and not derided for having a belief in a god

But I have to admit here that the op from what I can take from is post seem to be on the verge of abandoning his religious beliefs. Did you noticed the poignant questions he was asking all through.

That is it the right thing to go to a slave camp to free slaves with insults? is it proper to use extreme mockery to teach others what they do not kmoe ?

Forget the other things he was saying alongside it and just listen to him.

I have not seen anyone responding to that but only focusing on the negative things he said and I have to ask why? The resident Satanist even ran away to create another thread just to counter him.

Well, the op appears to be waking and I won't be surprised if he ends up becoming a non believer some day

His outbursts to me are evidences of someone whose mind is gradually coming alive. Maybe your method his working. or not working. Only time would tell

Lol.. i'm not on the verge of abandoning my beliefs ooo.. i have seen enough to never be an atheist.. i may not be able to prove God but based on experiences of the supernatural i can confidently say that there are people among us that we cannot see.. i am a firm believer in the spiritual.. don't get it twisted

LordReed:
There we go, the religious nutjob has come to mark register.

Again with the insults... exactly what i noted in my post... so typical of you nairaland atheists

LordReed:
Is someone who thinks it is acceptable to kill witches and homosexuals because their holy book says so a religious nut job or not?

Where in the Bible do you see Christians killing witches or homosexuals?

MaxInDHouse:
There is one thing that makes atheism wicked but the same thing affects all the religious groups on this planet!
According to God's word all false religious organizations are on the same page with atheism. The reason that people feel they have the right to choose any form of worship that soothes their liken is a big promotion for atheism!
Atheists are arguing for what they feel is right but you people are arguing that God is the one who knows what is right, OK which of all your numerous religious groups are doing God's will? You don't want to discuss that yet you're expecting right thinking persons to embrace your stupidity in the name of God!
If there is God the first question that needs to be answered is:
How many are they?
If you all agree that there is just one then the next question should be:
How do we worship Him?
But accepting all forms of worship in the name of One God is the problem you people are creating for yourselves!

What in the world are you talking about this guy? Always talking off point... SMH

Dtruthspeaker:
CLAP! CLAP! CLAP! SPLENDID.

A very beautiful and fair presentation capturing The Truths we have all seen and experienced here.

Beautiful! I do Say!

Lol.. thanks

LordReed:
Unlike your beliefs there is no eternal consequence to your persistence in continuing in your beliefs for the atheist so he has no obligation to save you except may be to save you from destroying others by your beliefs. You on the other hand believe wholeheartedly that we shall end up in hell, a place of torment for eternity but you sit in your house have your 3 square meals, watch TV, browse the Internet become bored and go to bed, sparing no thought for those you claim are going to suffer. Shouldn't you be spending every minute of everyday attempting to save people from this hell? Are you not more wicked according to your own criteria? If you truly believed in hell you'd be crying and wailing everyday begging people to be saved but you don't do that because you are very wicked (according to you).

How do you know i don't do it? What about the posts i have made here about the things i believe in? Don't they count?

Bluewitch:


Which truth....
When we try to you help you guys, we get threatened with hell fire and all sorts of nonsense.

He who will have sense will have sense.

Op are you thinking of moving to Athiesm.

Atheism is the last thing on my mind.. i have seen too much already

Besides when you guys try to 'help' us you don't do it in love... you talk down on us and try to make us out as fools for what we believe in

Crofton:
I'm atheist but sincerely your post is valid and the replies have done well to prove your point Futher, although the intolerant behaviour is exhibited by a few .

Thanks for your understanding.

zaxbash:
U be atheist now...? Werey Na ur papa dey produce rain,Na ur mama create the first life on earth...

You're insulting me now just like i noted in the post.

I take it that you're an atheist, no?

Ammishaddai:
Stop being sentimental with stupidity and argue based on logic

Again with the insults.. exactly what i noted in the post.

There is nothing illogical about anything i've said

zaxbash:
am damn right... Adverse drug reactions from previously smoked expired cheap weed

Lol..

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zaxbash:
U are high on cheap weed

I already quit smoking weed bruh

Workch:
Lol, Mumu post

The truth remains the truth

Ammishaddai:
Empty post

Lol.. the truth is a bitter pill indeed.

Dear atheists, you say there is no God. That is literally what atheist means: 'A Theos' which is the original greek word which means 'No God'.

You claim to be enlightened and more reasonable and logical and in your right mind unlike us religious people (not really religious people in general, more like Christians because that is the religion you people speak against the most in this section).

But i believe you guys are wicked. My reason being this. You see yourselves as being free and we religious as being enslaved. You see yourselves as being in your right mind and we religious as being out of our minds.

But in your wickedness you have left us all to our slavery and our insanity. Rather than reaching out to us in love and reasoning with us thoughtfully in order to bring us out of our deception and slavery you bash us, insult us, shame us, laugh at us in our wretched condition.

I don't believe you atheists really believe the things you claim to believe. If you really did, it would show. There is no aggressive effort being made by atheists to get the word out and deliver us poor theists out of our bondage. But the Christians who believe what they claim are aggressively spreading the word. Various radio stations and programs, various books and video and audio resources being used to spread the message but the same can't be said about atheists. How many atheist radio stations are there spreading the word about atheism and liberating people? How many Billy Grahams are there in atheism? How many Martin Luthers (both of them)? How many Oyedepos? How many apostle Pauls? How many mother Theresas? How many Andrew Wommacks? How many John Wesleys? How many D L Moodys? How many Kenneth Hagins?

If someone sees his neighbors house on fire and rather than rush and help them put out the fire and evacuate people from the house just walks on by and heads home without showing any concern at all, is that person a good person? If instead of helping them he begins to criticize them publicly and starts accusing them of being careless and stupid and idiotic and uneducated would that be fair? or kind? or good?

That is exactly what you atheists do. You people are selfish and want to enjoy your freedom alone while us religious folk suffer in chains. You show us no love or compassion. Rather than correct us lovingly and put us in the right path you shame us and try to make us look stupid for believing in what we believe in.

I don't believe this is fair treatment. The Christian believes the non-christian is going to hell, and in love he tells him and puts him in the right path. The atheist believes the theist is enslaved in his mind and out of his mind and rather than liberate him he attacks him. That is wickedness, pure wickedness.

Instead of making posts that logically and systematically explain atheism and why it is the right worldview, while logically refuting the claims of all religions step by step, you guys make posts mocking people who you claim to be in bondage rather than helping them lovingly.

You people are wicked.

Abraham Lincoln saw slaves and believed they shouldn't be slaves. And what did he do? shame them? mock them? no, he freed them. I believe that if you people really believe what you claim you should do the same.

Good evening.

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Hallelujah

Jesus is Lord

@Premiumwriter

This is my reply to the following thread https://www.nairaland.com/6806531/human-sacrifice-christianity-deeper-take

I hope you find it helpful.

I take it that the OP either hasn't read the Bible thoroughly or doesn't really understand what is written in it even if he has read it.

First of all, it is God's divine law that the punishment for sin is death. This is stated clearly in Scripture. Eze 18:20 "The soul who sins shall die. Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death

It was established from the very beginning God told our parents Adam and Eve, 'but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die' Gen 2:17

But God loves people and doesn't want theme to die, but still someone must die, someone must pay for the sin, God would never let sin go without someone dying for it. Concerning His attitude towards sin, God says in Exodus 34:7 "keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children and the children's children to the third and the fourth generation.". God won't simply ignore sin. He is a Just Judge and must address sin.

So what does He do about this sin issue?

Under the old covenant, God made a way for people not to have to die for their own sins and He did that through animal sacrifices. When a person sins, they become guilty, but then instead of God placing the guilt on them and carrying out the penalty which is death, he instructed them to bring an animal to the priest whom he appointed, the priest then lays his hand on the animals head, transfers the guilt for the sin to the animal, and then carries out God's judgement on that animal for the sin committed by the person. This is all detailed in Leviticus chapters 1 to 6.

But those sacrifices weren't sufficient.

Firstly, because they didn't completely wipe the guilt of sin away from a person's record and that is why they had to be offered so frequently. They just provided a temporary covering for the sin and when the person sins again, they have to sacrifice another animal and they did this over and over and over and over.

Heb 10:1 For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect.
Heb 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins.
Heb 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year.
Heb 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins.

Secondly, no animal sacrifice was ever sufficient for the whole world. Heb 10:11 And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins.. God didn't just want Israel to be saved but He wanted the whole world saved as well (John3:16). So how does He see to it?

That's where Jesus comes in.

You see, it is wrong to compare the sacrifice of Jesus to any other ritualistic sacrifice ever carried out because of the following reasons:

1. Jesus gave His life willingly.

John 10:18 "No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father.".

He wasn't kidnapped like most victims of ritual killings are. The motivation behind His sacrifice was love

(John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son)..

This isn't true about the ritual sacrifices we see today. People sacrificing people to gods out of greed and selfishness in order to obtain money or power or health. People kidnapping people and killing them against their will.

2. Jesus was a sacrifice God provided for Himself and by Himself. All the ritual killers have to be the ones to source for their sacrifices by themselves. None of the various gods have ever provided a sacrifice for themselves.

John 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, "Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!

Heb 10:5 Therefore, when He came into the world, He said: "Sacrifice and offering You did not desire, But a body You have prepared for Me.
Heb 10:6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin You had no pleasure.
Heb 10:7 Then I said, 'Behold, I have come; In the volume of the book it is written of Me; To do Your will, O God.'"

3. The sacrifice of Jesus covers the whole world. No ritual sacrifice can compare to that of Jesus in terms of magnitude. Jesus' sacrifice covers everyone who ever will exist.

(John 3:16).

Heb 9:28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.

Heb 7:27 who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people's, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.

I have heard of ritual sacrifices covering an entire community but i have never heard of any ritual sacrifice that covered every human that will ever exist.

4. Jesus was the first and last human sacrifice that the Hebrew God has ever accepted. Because Jesus was a one of a kind person. He never sinned.

Heb 4:15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin., He lived a perfect life

2Co 5:21 For God made Christ, who never sinned, to be the offering for our sin, so that we could be made right with God through Christ..

This made Him the perfect sacrifice because based on old testament revelation God never accepted a sacrifice that had any kind of imperfection. If a lamb or bull or goat had a scar, a missing limb or any kind of imperfection it was never accepted. That's why God stopped Abraham from sacrificing his son, his sacrifice would have been in vain because Isaac was a sinner, he wasn't perfect.

gods will never stop accepting human sacrifices. Ritual sacrifices will continue to happen till Jesus comes.

5. The sacrifice of Jesus is a one-time affair. It is perfectly perfect and completely complete. God will never accept another human sacrifice because Jesus offered a perfect sacrifice and there never will be another need for a human sacrifice or anyone worthy of being sacrificed to God.

Heb 10:12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God

Heb 9:25 Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, like the earthly high priest who enters the Most Holy Place year after year to offer the blood of an animal.
Heb 9:26 If that had been necessary, he would have had to die again and again, ever since the world began. But no! He came once for all time, at the end of the age, to remove the power of sin forever by his sacrificial death for us.

If ritual sacrifices were perfect then why do they do it continually? Every now and then we hear of someone being used as a ritual sacrifice this is because there can never be any perfect ritual sacrifice.

6. Jesus was raised from the dead after three whole days. Tell me which one of the numerous ritual sacrifices have ever been said to be raised from the dead.

John 10:18 "No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father.".

1Co 15:4 He was buried, and he was raised from the dead on the third day, as the Scriptures said.

Act 2:32 "This Jesus God has raised up, of which we are all witnesses.

The resurrection of Jesus is historically proven for two reasons.

Firstly, the empty tomb. If Jesus was still lying dead in a tomb His disciples wouldn't have been going around telling people He was risen. Also, it would be illogical to assume that his disciples upon meeting His tomb empty would have concluded that He had risen from the dead, because they weren't expecting Him to be raised from the dead even though Jesus clearly told them that He would die and be raised from the dead more than once.

Luke 24:12 But Peter arose and ran to the tomb; and stooping down, he saw the linen cloths lying by themselves; and he departed, marveling to himself at what had happened.

Secondly, the postmortem appearances. He appeared physically to several of His disciples different times and they are properly documented. This is what led them to conclude that He had risen from the dead and not the fact that His tomb was empty.

John 21:13 Then Jesus served them the bread and the fish.
John 21:14 This was the third time Jesus had appeared to his disciples since he had been raised from the dead.

Acts 1:3 During the forty days after his crucifixion, he appeared to the apostles from time to time and proved to them in many ways that he was actually alive. On these occasions he talked to them about the Kingdom of God.

1Co 15:4 He was buried, and he was raised from the dead on the third day, as the Scriptures said.
1Co 15:5 He was seen by Peter and then by the twelve apostles.
1Co 15:6 After that, he was seen by more than five hundred of his followers at one time, most of whom are still alive, though some have died by now.
1Co 15:7 Then he was seen by James and later by all the apostles.
1Co 15:8 Last of all, I saw him, too, long after the others, as though I had been born at the wrong time.

Asides from Scripture, till this day there still are reports of people who have actually seen the risen Jesus live and direct.

I have never heard of an instance of a ritual sacrifice being raised from the dead after being dead for an extended period of time.

7. The sacrifice of Jesus was just and fair. Do you know why? Because Jesus was raised from the dead. Think about it. If Jesus was never raised from the dead would it be fair for many to be living and enjoying eternity while the person that made it possible was deprived of life forever? That's another reason why it couldn't be anyone else. Because if a sinful man was sacrificed, he would be in hell now and forever while those who believe in him get to enjoy comfort in heaven forever. That wouldn't be fair, would it?

Ritual sacrifices aren't fair. They are borne out of greed and insecurity and lust and hatred. People are deprived of life because another person wants to be powerful or prosperous or in good health.

Isa 53:10 But it was the LORD's good plan to crush him and fill him with grief. Yet when his life is made an offering for sin, he will have a multitude of children, many heirs. He will enjoy a long life, and the LORD's plan will prosper in his hands.

8. Jesus was both the sacrifice and the person offering the sacrifice. Under the old covenant there were two most important pieces in any sacrifice and these were the sacrifice itself and the priest offering the sacrifice. And Jesus didn't offer the sacrifice in an earthly temple, but in heaven itself, where the real temple is.

Heb 9:24 For Christ has not entered the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us;
Heb 9:25 not that He should offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood of another;
Heb 9:26 He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment,
Heb 9:28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.

I have never heard of any ritual sacrifice in which the person offering the sacrifice was both the priest and the offering. Also, i have never heard of any ritual sacrifice carried out in heaven. Have you?


So you see, there is a vast difference between ritual sacrifices and the sacrifice of Jesus. And it is wrong and illogical to even compare the both of them to each other.

Shalom!

Honeypot62:
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Good luck to you.

Thanks

VICARYREALT0RS:
You need ICAN bro/sis.

If you can , get both accounting and auditing internship experience. You can run it 6 months each.

Get skills on SAGE, QUICKBOOK TALLY etc.

You've a good grade.

Good luck .

THANKS

Dear nairaland mods, whatsup with all the suicide posts? What is your intention for pushing all these posts to the front page? Please stop it, it's becoming too much.

1forall:
You don't really need 'help' as you're on the right track. The best way to find out what employers want from employees is to look through job vacancy ads which you say you've done already.


Having already identified the skills and attributes desired of accountants, what more info are you asking for? Why not focus on acquiring the knowledge and skills you've already found out employers want, instead of worrying about what other ones there are?

Just like in Math where you work from the known to the unknown, start from the ones you know and maybe that'll lead you to the ones you don't.

Good luck.

Thanks very much.

TripleOh7:
My opinion that the Fulanis are out to colonize the south?

Lol.

The Fulanis have attacked Yorubaland twice in the 19th century.

Because of treachery, they were able to take Ilorin and surrounding towns. Their intention then was to seize all Yorubaland but they were beaten back.

They were also beaten back at Oshogbo when they wanted to also come through that route to enslave Yorubas.

They were roundly defeated.

They swore to complete the jihad of their progenitor, Uthman Dan Fodio who predicted that one day they will touch the Quran to the sea (the Atlantic ocean at Lagos)

This isn't their first trial.

Now, they have a man at the helms of affairs.

They are encamped around the rainforests of the south.

What deductions can you make from these?

They have a man at the helm of affairs for how much longer? Won't he be leaving in 2023?

Lol... you are just a conspiracy theorist and nothing else...either that or you just hate northerners

I find the things you are saying hard to believe.

Dtruthspeaker:
He has definitely fallen into lunacy.

Lol... he is obviously trying everything possible to deny what he indeed knows to be true... that's why his posts are mostly about Christianity

RonnyD:
Yes it is, but Nigeria na jungle that’s why you don’t think it’s bad. In any civilized country your mom would be in prison for this kind of issue. Nonsense. Hire an adult and tell your mom to treat them well and tell your dad to man up and speak out against these types of things rather than just being mute.

Alright then, if you say so

TripleOh7:
The term "conspiracy theory" was coined by the CIA to make ordinary people think they are going crazy when they finally see the truth in front of them.

I rely on history to predict the future. The future is upon us.

What history do you have to support your claims?

BassReeves:
lqtm, you're gagging for lol, i.e. 'lots of love'

You're bereft of love, hence lack knowledge and you're starved of righteous edification

Smh, you have not shared a scripture that said Jesus has destroyed Satan, but you quoted Hebrews 2:14 that said Jesus might destroy the power of Satan, who had the power of death.

'Destroyed' and 'might destroy,' the two, are as different as chalk and cheese.

I showed how implausible your answer is. I also explained the reason why the comment you made, alleging that satan has a soul, basing it on a claim that he has a mind, will and emotions, is wrong.

Never mind