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What will the bible have to say here Simon was regarded as Man of God for great miracles..... Act 8
9 But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one:
10 To whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the great power of God.
11 And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries.
12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
14 ¶ Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
18 And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,
19 Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.
20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.
21 Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God.
God alone to be praised.

Most pastor today open their churches to collect / tithing for God, but they remove their commission from that anyway. Abi pastor must chop

In the Name of Allah
In the Name of God
Seun please remove this topic from your forum

From north to south, from east to west there is no other God but Allah.
Jehova, Yalwe
Iamm Who I am
Only One God Known with many names

"Truly, your god is truly One!" [Qur'an 37:4]

This is chapter 112 which reads:


"In the name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate.
Say (O Muhammad) He is God the One God, the Everlasting Refuge, who has not begotten, nor has been begotten, and equal to Him is not anyone."

"God is the Creator of everything. He is the guardian over everything. Unto Him belong the keys of the heavens and the earth." (39:62, 63)
"No creature is there crawling on the earth, but its provision rests on God. He knows its lodging place and it repository." (11:6)

Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
No name was mentioned in that prayer Mind you.

And Why, were there gods in earth and heaven other than God, they (heaven and earth) would surely go to ruin." (21:22)


The Oneness of God
The Quran reminds us of the falsity of all alleged gods. To the worshippers of man-made objects, it asks:
"Do you worship what you have carved yourself?" (37:95)
"Or have you taken unto you others beside Him to be your protectors, even such as have no power either for good or for harm to themselves?" (13:16)

To the worshippers of heavenly bodies it cites the story of Abraham

Leave pastor T. B. Alone, for whatever he sow he will reap evrybody for himself. The scripture said in
MATTHEW CHAPTER 24
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.


EVEN if jesus christ returns some of them will kill him again.

Mathew Chapter 6
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
9 ¶ After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.


Depending on your faith of whom you believed and hallowed

St Johns Pry School  Iyere-Owo
st Micheal pry scool Ilale ii -Owo
St Patrick pry school Ijebu- Owo
Adeyeri Grammar school     Owo
Federal Polytechnic   Akure ND

Federal Polytechnic   Ado-Ekiti HND

kazey:
Simple. Bachelors > Diploma. Chapter close.

You are correct as per the equation

Bachelors>Diploma

Bachelors > or =Higher Diploma

Bachelors < Advance or post graduate Diploma

Depending on your faith

ISAIAH CHAPTER 4

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1 ¶ And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
2 ¶ In that day shall the branch of the LORD be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely for them that are escaped of Israel.
The time is not yet here because, we have not move to the required point.

Malachi 3

7 ¶ Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?
8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. In the whole of 66 books of Bible this is the only refrence

Na everybody now

kodewrita:
our society the certificates have an inherent social value (thats why mothers-in-law [/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000][color=#990000][/color]will always discriminate against SSCE holders even if they speak english like britons)

The result is single motherhood and Very higher rate of breaks in marriage , Simply because today's love refused to go blind, let Jss graduate marry Jss holder. Let HND marry HND holder let the poor marry the poor, Let Otunba child marry another Otunba family,at the end of the day we take the same exit.

Isaac Newton and co do not have DEGREES either, then why the discriminations?

IAH:

Hum i didnt know that certificates, determines whether you become rich or poor.

Please tell them...the richest people in the world today have no stinking degrees.

Our soceity is no t the type that cares about se

objibb:
Self esteem does not mean seeing yourself as the greatest person in the world.
It's not the same as being conceited.
Healthy self esteem means liking yourself,as HND holder for the most part,

Hnd holders have all what Bsc had., Motor cars, houses name it. why some Bsc holders are just looking for what to eat.

Can we help our educational system?

Then show me your face, Iam more hansom than seun anyway

This is the world, Meeting chicks here. I need a lover ........ any body here oh tayotina at last is u I want.

Thank u, I am ready to prove my love for u, I mean true love that will earn me eeee but what will I have in return?

Give me responsibility as volunteer

hot-angel:
True Love is True love. It is when you see the one you love and can't help but smile. !

If I may understand you True love = True God. But the greatest aspect of love is severity. True love then must contain element of justice. If you love somebody you must be prepare to lay your life down for his protection, you beat your child to protect the child from harm because you love the child truly.
If God is LOVE to be true love he must give out painful punishment to correct, , for the greater part of true love is severity, do you agree?

If all so-called love were relentlessly sifted to the bottom, nothing would remain but selfishness, vanity, weakness, desire for ease, conceit or instinct.
Genuine love will take no account of what gratifies the other, of what is agreeable to him and gives him joy, but will only direct itself towards what will benefit him, regardless of whether it affords him pleasure or not. That is genuine and true love and service.

What is LoVE then?

Too much grammar here. Companionship could occur without friendship but one thing normally lead to the other. No rigid formula.

The same Gray Longe Commission on Higher Education advocated that for a balanced development of the country by the year 2000, for every student in the university system there should be four in the polytechnics and colleges of education. In the year 2002, the combined enrolment in polytechnics, and colleges of education of a little over 300,000 (polytechnics - 200,000 and colleges of education - 100,000) is still far below the total university enrolment of over 400,000. This is despite the fact that there are now 50 polytechnics, and 65 colleges of education, compared to 42 universities in the country. The effect of these disparities on National Manpower Development, is that there are more system designers than implementers.

The bottom line is that both depend on each other and none is superior to the other.

Gray Longe Commission described polytechnic products as support staff, when it recommended that "polytechnics should concentrate on the training of middle-level manpower (technicians and technologists) for direct employment in industry as a support for high level manpower", adding that "the fact that some other countries provide the facility for the award of first and higher degrees in their polytechnics/colleges of advanced technology in the light of their manpower needs is not a good enough reason for reviewing the programmes available in the polytechnics in Nigeria"."In this sense, it is implied that polytechnic graduates are forever consigned to middle-level manpower status in their careers and professions. The question then is what is really middle level manpower? . When could polytechnic graduates drop the toga of middle-level manpower? Is it after switching over to the university to do a degree; If the holder of a Bachelor's degree is not; classified as Middle-level Manpower, is it right to classify an HND holder as Middle-level?"

Happily, these issues were addressed during the summit. "Middle level manpower" is gone for good, at least on paper. The greater task for every stakeholder is to erase same from our minds. We hardly have a choice if we believe like UNESCO that " in the future, the backbone of robust social and economic development in a nation will be the technical profession."

dominobaby:

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However I need to ask one question how many poly graduates made up their minds not to bother writing Uni JAMB and went straight on to write only POLYJAMB exam? Simply put, did you attend a poly as of first choice?

IAH:
I think Polytechnics are for people who could not enter Uni because of their low grades, the people with higher grades in Polytechnics usually take Direct Entry into Uni after their OND. The others continue with the HND. I would say the percentage of really smart students in Polytechnics doing HND must be like 1%, and such students should be asked; "What are you still doing in Poly?" A big apology to whoever feels offended by this post but it is my opinion, isn't it?
Conclusion: Poly is never a first choice for any student or his/her parent. So why do people end up there and FINISH there?

Most polytechnic graduates did not get in there because they did have complete results or iot was their first choice. Many atimes it is because after several attempts of UME to no avail, they decided to try out the polytechnics, and even after attempting a Direct Entry, they still do not find it easy to get in.
I bet you wouldn't want to attempt one exam several times, you surely would get fed up.

Yes, because we can not afford to cheat or buy JAMB or WASC papers.

It is pertinent to illustrate the-deplorable scenario surrounding technological education in Nigeria where there are principals of secondary schools who are now on GL 16, which is simply unattainable in any of the 3 largest federal polytechnics in Kaduna, Yaba and Auchi, with a combined students population of nearly 50,000 students and more than 6,000 staff. Thus, registrars, bursars and librarians in polytechnics cannot earn more than their deputies in universities. What is more, the overhead expenditure allocation for the largest polytechnic in Kaduna for instance is only a fraction higher than that of the smallest university. Yet, we are not unaware as a nation of the technological revolution literally sweeping the world off its feet and the implied critical need for higher level technical education. Development in the modern world is technology based and we need to judge the Nigerian graduates from the polytechnic sector on performance rather than some preconceived sentimental biases. The university graduates and the polytechnic graduates are actually equal but different, each having attributes and relevance vital to the progress and development of the country. We need to shake off the colonial legacy of pre-eminence of social sciences that suited the imperial administrative objectives of the colonialists, so that we can begin to translate independence into a developmental reality. After all even the European domains of the colonialists today place a higher premium on technical know-how and skills acquisition than on theoretical academic prowess. Our youths have got the message as there is a marked increase in the number of qualified candidates seeking admission into polytechnics in recent years most of whom cannot get first-time admission due to inadequacies. This reflects a burning desire to be technically learned in realisation of the practical advantage both for formal employment and self-employment in a technology-driven developing world. It is the polytechnic graduates who constitute a majority of the factory technicians working for Peugeot Automobile assembly plant in Kaduna for example while the Kaduna Polytechnic boasts of more equipment-and facilities for delicate technical processes and investigations than most Nigerian universities. If these remarkable developments are being recorded despite the manifest relegation of technical education, then we should expect dramatic breakthroughs when the equation is finally balanced to give blue-collar professions white-collar prestige.(Gambo writes)

The rationale for adopting the binary system includes the fact that an hierarchy with the universities at the apex inevitably depresses and degrades morale and standards in the non-university sector which is why no developed country rose from a culture of down-grading its non-university professional and technical sector. It has also been recognised that the demand for vocational, professional and industrial-based courses requires a separate sector and there is need for a substantial part of the higher education system to be under social control and directly responsible to social needs. Certainly no nation that downgrades its non-university professional and technical sector in the face of great need for vocational, professional and industrial training can succeed in achieving substantial industrialisation. Another area of concern is the placement of career limitations on polytechnic academic staff to the advantage of their university counterparts such as the policy of limiting polytechnic academic staff to HATISS 14 salary scale when university academic staff can rise all the way to the peak of HATISS 15. As arms of tertiary education in their own right, staff of polytechnics have demanded the removal of HATISS 14 bar because the nature of their duties are similar to those of university staff. In 1988, the Federal Government approved that the polytechnics and colleges of education staff should be on the Unified Salary System (USS). Later, the Longe Commission recommended parity in the treatment of staff in universities, polytechnics and colleges of education. Strangely, during implementation, this aspect was not addressed leading to incessant agitation and industrial disputes in the institutions. Justice Anya's committee report later endorsed the issue of parity under the USS and the removal of the ceiling placed on progression of polytechnic staff on the USS system, so that qualified staff of the polytechnics can rise up to USS 15. There are also differences in the academic allowances paid to staff of polytechnics compared to staff in universities as well as in retirement ages of academic staff of tertiary institutions. All these discriminatory polices and practices result in brain drain from polytechnics to universities, entrenchment of undeserved inferior or subordinate status on technological and professional education, dwindling productivity and motivation among academic staff of polytechnics and act as a disincentive to good candidates for pursuing technological and professional education. Correcting these anomalies will bring about greater recognition of the worth of polytechnic academic staff as well as improved remuneration to motivate them more and enhance the status of technological education in the country.

More disturbing than these episodes are the numerous instances of a sort of institutionalised relegation of technical education and its products in government policies. For example, there has been a deliberate policy of placing polytechnics in a subordinate position to universities both in the level of qualifications they can award and also the placement of their graduates in the salary structure of the civil services. The demand by polytechnics and their graduates that their institutions be empowered to award first and higher degrees has been long running against a brick wall. Polytechnics are the major vehicles for technological development charged with responsibility of providing training in technology, applied science and other fields of applied learning relevant to the development needs of the country. Yet both staff and students of the polytechnics have been complaining of anxiety and frustration over certain policies such as the lack of opportunities for graduates of polytechnics to progress beyond the HND and the limits to career progression of HND graduates in the public service. Other adverse policies include discriminatory recognition of HND holders in entry into the professions, especially engineering and the general perception of HND graduates as being inferior and of lower social status to the degree holders. What we have is an arrangement whereby the university is regarded as the apex of the system of higher education even though there are many programmes which are crucial to the economy that are not offered by any of our universities and yet require qualified professionals. This artificial restriction of the polytechnics to produce technicians, technologists and sub-professionals is clearly not in the interest of the cardinal principles of Nigeria as a developing country contained in the Second National Development Plan. Such an anomalous system was long ago discarded by the United Kingdom, from where the idea of Polytechnics was borrowed, and many other developed nations as a model for higher education. In the developed countries and some progressive developing ones too, provision of higher education is based on the plural or binary system whereby this responsibility is shared by universities, polytechnics and colleges of education, allowing polytechnics to offer their own degrees and even to use the term "university" against their names.